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noble1:
nice try , why would i say fold marty?

cgull69 on the turn you thought
--- Quote ---I now think that button is definitely on a draw
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why? did you have a read? why can"t villain not slow play with Jx or see a free card with QT, pot control an under pair TT, giving up with air maybe,  9x can be in the range...
why bet flop?
why not bet turn?
why bet river? what size should u bet?





cgull69:

--- Quote from: MintTrav on February 07, 2011, 13:29:27 PM ---
My chips are in a second after his at the end, though I think he is more likely to have a J than a flush. Who is not going to be happy to get them in here, as I think you must know?

One thing I don"t like is:


--- Quote from: cgull69 on February 07, 2011, 12:59:50 PM ---
I fire out a 1/2 pot bet (250) to find out where I am
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I hear this kind of thing all the time, but I don"t get it. I can"t see the benefit. I always bet for a reason, but that reason is never for information.

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This is an interesting point, the reason I fired a 1/2 pot bet after the flop is that it gives me the option of geting away from the hand if he re-pops me. Also I do not want to display any sort of weakness. I must add that this game was not a 2 dollar donkfest and that the player I was up against certainly knows the time of day. I am now thinking that I should have bet the pot on the flop to price him out of calling had he been on a draw, but if he were on a draw would he have called anyway as the implied pot odds would have been in his favour.


Marty719:

--- Quote from: noble1 on February 07, 2011, 13:58:14 PM ---
nice try , why would i say fold marty?


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Cos he lost the hand...

noble1:

--- Quote from: Marty719 on February 07, 2011, 14:03:01 PM ---

--- Quote from: noble1 on February 07, 2011, 13:58:14 PM ---
nice try , why would i say fold marty?


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Cos he lost the hand...

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oh, u think the the result will influence, i see ???   u see everything std, i get it marty...


--- Quote ---I am now thinking that I should have bet the pot on the flop to price him out of calling had he been on a draw
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--- Quote ---the implied pot odds would have been in his favour
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--- Quote ---the reason I fired a 1/2 pot bet after the flop is that it gives me the option of geting away from the hand if he re-pops me
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i dont like the thought process above, or the thoughts on range on the turn...





Marty719:

--- Quote from: cgull69 on February 07, 2011, 13:59:20 PM ---

This is an interesting point, the reason I fired a 1/2 pot bet after the flop is that it gives me the option of geting away from the hand if he re-pops me.


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By betting 1/2 pot we widen villains flop raising range so b/f"n a J99cc board is a really bad idea.  B/f"n on any connected/suited flops with overpaids and no solid info on villain is an error.

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