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River Value Shove vs unknown
Marty719:
I agree a smaller v/bet is prob a better option, but people do not tend to blocker-bet/fold too much, and I felt I crushed his range when he bet so small. If he bets 3/4 pot+ otr then I flat always without further info.
noble1:
meh change the title to very thin river reraise marty :)
i dont mind a bit of creative thinking, especially when trying to exploit oppo"s std lines, i"d prefer tbh if u had seen villain tank call some number of times beforehand though [with the odd showdown] :)
if villain is 1/2 decent and has seen u make large river bets upto now or has seen u check behind a lot rivers then the read on the bet sizing can go either way...
hard to say what villain is doing based on the info we have to go by marty, just going by texture, action, bet sizing etc
villains range is any of the above, king x , 66, flushes, air... :)
PantsMan:
--- Quote from: Marty719 on March 07, 2011, 17:14:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: PantsMan on March 07, 2011, 16:59:33 PM ---
What are you hoping to achieve? Win the hand here and now or get called by a weaker holding?
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100% hoping to get called by a weaker holding. I wouldnt turn a set of 4s into a bluff vs an unknown like this.
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I"m just struggling to see what weaker holdings you think he might call a shove with. There are plenty of hands you"re getting to fold here but if you get called i reckon you"re behind. Although as this is on Stars i fully expect you to tell us he turned over KQ and you won the pot! :)
Santino67:
My thinking here is that he looks like he"s checked flop and turn to catch a free card and calling with odds, possibly with As Xs. Bet on end is either good value bet with nuts or cheap blocker with KQ/KJ etc. I"d be happy to call on end with 3rd Spade appearing as I think the only call I"d get is from the flush, but there could also be a horrid sneaky straight out there as well, albeit doubtful.
PantsMan:
So, do we get to know the result of the shove?
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