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Swinebag:
--- Quote from: Philippos13 on December 06, 2007, 23:56:49 PM ---
that seems wrong....liying about your hand and getting penalised
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My take on this is:
If you ask someone what they have because you want a read then they have the right to lie/tell the truth/do whatever they want. You did after all start the mind games
If you are thinking/tanking about a decision and they then start lying/telling the truth/whatever about their cards then this is out of order and should be penalised.
The devil is in the detail here, to quote tighty
--- Quote from: TightEnd on December 06, 2007, 17:21:00 PM ---
APAT Rule 57
Verbal declarations as to the content of a player?s hand are not binding; however at the Tournament Director?s discretion, any player deliberately declaring or miscalling his hand may be penalised.
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So by being asked what you have and then replying, you are not deliberately declaring your hand
kinboshi:
...and yet within the APAT rules I"m sure it allows you to expose your cards when facing an all-in bet and you"re the only one to act (a rule I completely disagree with).
Surely this is a case of "deliberately declaring" your hand? Don"t these two rules contradict each other?
TightEnd:
One is verbal, rule 57, one isn"t..the other rule
We are in response to feedback looking at the other rule for future events
TightEnd:
One is verbal, rule 57, one isn"t..the other rule
We are in response to feedback looking at the other rule for future events
kinboshi:
--- Quote from: TightEnd on December 07, 2007, 10:59:40 AM ---
One is verbal, rule 57, one isn"t..the other rule
We are in response to feedback looking at the other rule for future events
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--- Quote from: TightEnd on December 07, 2007, 11:01:39 AM ---
One is verbal, rule 57, one isn"t..the other rule
We are in response to feedback looking at the other rule for future events
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Is it that one is verbal and the other rule isn"t?
Are you considering changing the other rule for future events?
;D
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