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Claw75:

--- Quote from: thacker on March 20, 2011, 11:44:28 AM ---
At the end of the day there can be many problems online.Before you play make sure your computer and connection,to the best of your ability, works!! .If things then go wrong its tough.Ive been in the same situ before on both ends and its not funny at the ****ty end for sure.In a live game if you make day two and your car breaks down or the motorway is blocked would you expect your chip lead to intact.Can you imagine everyone waiting for the chip leader?



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different scenario.  you"re heads up in a live APAT championship and your opponent suddenly takes ill and has to dash off to the loo.  do you suggest pausing the clock to wait for him to get back, or (if that"s not allowed) take your time about making a decision when you"re first to act, or do you get the dealer to hurry up and raise his bb every hand?

Paulie_D:

--- Quote from: Claw75 on March 20, 2011, 11:55:00 AM ---

--- Quote from: thacker on March 20, 2011, 11:44:28 AM ---
At the end of the day there can be many problems online.Before you play make sure your computer and connection,to the best of your ability, works!! .If things then go wrong its tough.Ive been in the same situ before on both ends and its not funny at the ****ty end for sure.In a live game if you make day two and your car breaks down or the motorway is blocked would you expect your chip lead to intact.Can you imagine everyone waiting for the chip leader?



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different scenario.  you"re heads up in a live APAT championship and your opponent suddenly takes ill and has to dash off to the loo.  do you suggest pausing the clock to wait for him to get back, or (if that"s not allowed) take your time about making a decision when you"re first to act, or do you get the dealer to hurry up and raise his bb every hand?

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How about he has a heart attack and is rushed to hospital? Do you wait then and if so, how long...an hour...a day...a month..oh, and the clock is still running too?

At the end of things, online, you don"t know WHY he left, just that he"s gone. Some people would wait a while, some wouldn"t.

Poker...tut!

thacker:
poker and morality ......... trying to win money off others.....I play to win and expect others to do the same.

gomarrrahh:
Fairly standard APAT running for me. Exited the PLO flopping quads, losing to runner runner straight flush. In all fairness, they flopped a house, but i run gud in APAT events, so had to settle for the miracle knockout.

Holdem was brutal too, AIPF wiv AK vs AK, he rivers flush. then got my crippled stack in with a suited queen, to run into the BBs aces obviously. Good to have APAT back, jus wish i cud get a break for once.

Congrats to all cashers, medal winners and seat winners. Pretty harsh way to lose the ME with disconnection problems, guess thats the risk with online. Cant blame the villain for doing what he did, with the UKIPT seat at stake, but then not really APAT ethos.
Maybe dont play a tourney wiv that type of prize on offer in a fire escape with someone elses internet WI-FI? Just a thought.

As for the non-regulars/abuse of players, these events werent password protected. yes 888 is the sponser and their players are eligable for APAT events but i suggest putting up a new password every event/satellite so that at least these players logon to APAT.com to find the password and play a part in the community in order for it to grow. Rather than someone with no interest in APAT jus logging on and binking a tourney and never seeing them again.

Claw75:

--- Quote from: Paulie_D on March 20, 2011, 11:59:00 AM ---

--- Quote from: Claw75 on March 20, 2011, 11:55:00 AM ---

--- Quote from: thacker on March 20, 2011, 11:44:28 AM ---
At the end of the day there can be many problems online.Before you play make sure your computer and connection,to the best of your ability, works!! .If things then go wrong its tough.Ive been in the same situ before on both ends and its not funny at the ****ty end for sure.In a live game if you make day two and your car breaks down or the motorway is blocked would you expect your chip lead to intact.Can you imagine everyone waiting for the chip leader?



--- End quote ---


different scenario.  you"re heads up in a live APAT championship and your opponent suddenly takes ill and has to dash off to the loo.  do you suggest pausing the clock to wait for him to get back, or (if that"s not allowed) take your time about making a decision when you"re first to act, or do you get the dealer to hurry up and raise his bb every hand?

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How about he has a heart attack and is rushed to hospital? Do you wait then and if so, how long...an hour...a day...a month..oh, and the clock is still running too?


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Personally?  I ask for the clock to be stopped and the game to be reconvened whenever.  if they won"t do that, i"d suggest splitting the money by chip count and having a play off for the title at another time.  If that"s not agreed to, I"d probably make a nuisance of myself and refuse to sit down, even it means throwing away my chances of winning if i"m shorter on chips.

I am a bit of a mug for these things though, hence why I am skint.

anyway, i only threw that question in because there seemed to be a suggestion that the same ethics should apply to live and online games, but the "broken down car" scenario didn"t really tie in with the scenario under discussion.

FWIW it appears from Ozfest"s post that it wasn"t just a matter of madly raising Steve"s blind hand after hand, so the suggestions that he did may have been a bit harsh.  Still a good topic for debate though, as there certainly appear to be differing views on what is accepted etiquette in that situation.  However, as with most things, it just comes down to personal choice, and it"s certainly not a hanging offence.

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