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AAroddersAA:
I think this is most likely fine but thought I would post as the hand is annoying me.

Live Cash Game at Aspers in Swansea blinds are £1/£1 with £150 sit down. I was playing quite well (which is unusual) and was up about £50. My image at the table was very tight, although it is unlikely many people have noticed this in that game. I have around £200 (it was actually £197 I think) in front of me. I am sat in the cut off. I get dealt QQ. The BB here is a bit of a calling station who in three hours I have not seen raise once. He has lost two £100 stacks due to calling down bets with small hands. He then doubled up when somebody tried to bluff him off two pair. I don"t think he is that likely to be that aware of table image but must know I have not played many pot"s.

Any we are playing 8 handed and there are three limpers. so there is £5 in the pot so I raise it to £10. The BB calls which doesn"t really surprise me and there is one other caller. Flop comes down Queen high (Q-6-2 I think) but all spades. Checks back to me so I bet out £30 with my set. The big blind insta goes allin for the rest of my stack, the other player folds. So I have about £110 left in front of me and there is effectively about £200 in the pot. He looks pretty confident and happy with the situation as well.

Can anybody find a fold here. If he does have the flush I have outs and almost have the correct odds to call anyway, if he has the bare As (and people do sometimes play flush draws this way) then I am a pretty big favorite. Anything else I am massive against.

This is a really easy call right? Can I ever fold and how deep do I have to be before I start thinking about folding?

Marty719:
absolute snap.  As for how deep we have to be, usually if we have 400x stacks, he isnt going to be shoving his nutted hands over our c/b, and will raise a standard size instead.  Need more info on post-flop tendancies, but in these spots, Im more than likely to peel a flop raise and try and fill up.  Also a consideration that he can over-value bottom/middle set.

Paulie_D:
I think I"d have to call KNOWING I"m almost certainly up against a made flush BUT I think his range is open enough to mitigate any lack in the pot odds.

As you say, some will play a naked Ace flush draw this way as would some middle sets.

Overall I"d say that after balancing ranges and pot odds...it"s a call.

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Then again, you"ve only got a minimal amount invested and if you don"t want to gamble...then don"t....I"d be happy with it either way.

Sunseekers:
shoot if i had my car keys, they would go in as well, but thats the sort of player I am.

No probs snappin there,

as above they"re flush drawing half the time in low limits, and trying to pot buyout.

AMRN:

--- Quote from: AAroddersAA on May 25, 2011, 09:19:44 AM ---
I have around £200 (it was actually £197 I think) in front of me.

....................So I have about £110 left in front of me and there is effectively about £200 in the pot.

--- End quote ---


think that in this scenario where pot odds have a real bearing it"s important that the numbers are right. If you raise to £10 pre, then cbet £30, you must have £157 left in front, not £110.

With your £10, plus two callers, and 2 other £1s in the pot, the pot was £32 going to the flop. You c-bet £30 and he shoved enough to set you all in. So, effective pot is £32+£30+£30 = £92 + £157 = £249. You are being asked to call £157 to win £249 - so you have to win around 39% of the time to make the call ok.

Assuming worst case that you are behind to a made flush, you have 7 outs on turn and 10 on river, by my reckoning that"s around 38%..... therefore the call is borderline based on pot odds.  However, if you believe he has Ace spade draws in his range, the odds swing in favour of a call.  Thing is though, in your OP you label him is a calling station and the way you describe his previous actions, he doesn"t sound the sort of player who would jam with anything but a made strong hand.

In the heat of the moment, I probably snap call - however with the maths in mind, it"s probably -EV against this particular player. Against a good player who"s jamming range will include draws and air on this type of flop, the call is pretty mandatory.

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