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TheSnapper:
Four replies thus far and all in agreement on 3 betting pre. Can you guys take a stab at villains raising range utg+1 and give some solid reasons for 3 betting?


--- Quote from: jbworldwide on July 28, 2011, 00:30:03 AM ---

you are maximising the value of your hand


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Dont agree at all with this statement, JJ has a lot less value versus his 3b calling range.


--- Quote from: jbworldwide ---

you are finding out where your hand is.

Your decisions will be easier in the long run as you learn about your opponent and put people to the test.


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This is true, by 3 betting the hand is easier to play ( should that be a priority factor in our decision?), we also allow villain to play perfectly against us.


--- Quote from: jbworldwide on July 28, 2011, 00:30:03 AM ---

However for this particular hand, I think Chris destroyed his hand value by betting so much (perhaps), and it worked out well for you as you can find that fold button.


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His flop lead into 5 players is super strong alright but I dont think its unreasonable for him to think there is value in betting his hand strongly.

I Q8Holds I:
Snapper I suck with writing my thoughts but everything you just said I 100% agree with especially with the 3bet pre we get more value by calling then him thinking he"s value betting on a 5 high board with 88 etc

jbworldwide:

--- Quote from: TheSnapper on July 28, 2011, 02:50:50 AM ---
Four replies thus far and all in agreement on 3 betting pre. Can you guys take a stab at villains raising range utg+1 and give some solid reasons for 3 betting?


--- Quote from: jbworldwide on July 28, 2011, 00:30:03 AM ---

you are maximising the value of your hand


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Dont agree at all with this statement, JJ has a lot less value versus his 3b calling range.


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Maybe we don"t agree on what value is, I mean in terms of ability to win the maximum and lose the minimum, there is value in doing both.

scouse3465:
1 factor i am not sure if been posted but how much had you been 3 betting dave and do you think the players on table where noticing. I am guessing the original raiser would have noticed but other mongos ?
If you was 3 betting a lot the original raiser could easily call or 4 bet you light .
And in this instance can you 5 bet your jacks  ? I do like the flat with jacks and set mine with them, if you do 3 bet and are faced with a call whatever the flop is will be tough and u have to c bet. If its low flop as it is u entitled to think you ahead and c bet will prob win you it but they could easily have flopped set if show resistance.
As all situations so many variables but i slighty prefer the flat but 3 betting also ok.

I Q8Holds I:
Not 3bet or raised once pre I don"t think had only really played the qq hand

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