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ian.ski309:
Looks highly likely that either he"s hit trips and he thinks he"s protecting his hand, or you"re drawing to a two-outer. I"m reluctantly calling here.
noble1:
Grant in a full handed micro stakes game more often than not u will run into a real hand, rethink your whole approach.
so basically all u have to do is just attack the weak players to make money in the micros, raise to isolate a loose passive fish, or reraise to isolate a loose aggressive maniac etc. attack players who cannot fold 2nd best hands or attack weak tight types who fold to aggression or who may check fold/give up to much.. so size up the types u are up against, get a read on them, be it that are they fish, maniacs, or calling stations etc, isolate them with position and adjust your range using hands that have big hand potential or something that can make a decent tptk etc... its important in the micros to be selective when opening a pot from earlier, but from late position u can open up to a more short handed game style.
so in summary in micro full ring game base your game around the strategy of isolating anyone who does anything that is easy to exploit, after all its cash, u are playing for the long term, sit there and get used to judging the ability of your opponents and what strength hands they are prepared to stack off with/over play etc, use position and exploit them... forget blind stealing to a certain extent unless of course they fold enough to make it profitable to steal super wide..
if u dont have a read and these guys are going berserk on any flop more-so on textures like these, then just fold.. adjust later if/when u see a showdown..
question - given the stacks sizes, how the action goes plus the flop texture, how often in your opinion will u see a worse hand?
with reads = more correct decisions long term = profit long term
Santino67:
--- Quote from: noble1 on September 12, 2011, 09:44:48 AM ---
Grant in a full handed micro stakes game more often than not u will run into a real hand, rethink your whole approach.
so basically all u have to do is just attack the weak players to make money in the micros, raise to isolate a loose passive fish, or reraise to isolate a loose aggressive maniac etc. attack players who cannot fold 2nd best hands or attack weak tight types who fold to aggression or who may check fold/give up to much.. so size up the types u are up against, get a read on them, be it that are they fish, maniacs, or calling stations etc, isolate them with position and adjust your range using hands that have big hand potential or something that can make a decent tptk etc... its important in the micros to be selective when opening a pot from earlier, but from late position u can open up to a more short handed game style.
so in summary in micro full ring game base your game around the strategy of isolating anyone who does anything that is easy to exploit, after all its cash, u are playing for the long term, sit there and get used to judging the ability of your opponents and what strength hands they are prepared to stack off with/over play etc, use position and exploit them... forget blind stealing to a certain extent unless of course they fold enough to make it profitable to steal super wide..
if u dont have a read and these guys are going berserk on any flop more-so on textures like these, then just fold.. adjust later if/when u see a showdown..
question - given the stacks sizes, how the action goes plus the flop texture, how often in your opinion will u see a worse hand?
with reads = more correct decisions long term = profit long term
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Absolutely agree Noble so my thinking is along the lines of 2 of the 3 players on my left I know fairly well (Szoly - fairly solid, doesn"t get too involved without cards...and Chomper - will shove his short stack with any reasonable ace or PP) and they have position on me so i fold to any pre-flop raise OOP. SB Krasser is a bit of a maniac, plays too many pots but been using his stack well to bully.
Had I picked up this hand in Cut Off or Button in this situation I"m raising probably (so should the same apply 2 or 3 seats to the right with the 2 tightys on my left? Dumb question probably, just shouldn"t be limping full stop i suppose). The hands I"ve actually seen that Krasser has exposed have been things like J/9, K/8, Q/10 etc and he"s been tangled up with these to turn/river/showdowns holding stuff like 2nd pair, top pair weak kicker, straight draw etc, won some and lost some. I know he"s willing to gamble with the Queen in his hand or the bigger club draw. Did I get it badly wrong...........
SantinoAPAT calls [$14.57]
** Dealing turn ** [ 8h ]
** Dealing river ** [ 5c ]
** Summary **
SantinoAPAT shows [ 8c 6c ]
krasser17 shows [ Jc Kc ]
SantinoAPAT collected [ $32.06 ]
Yeah on this occasion the poker gods shone their light on me, but tbh i was stunned when i saw what he was holding. Simply because I"d seen him raise pre with a number of weaker unsuited hands. Given my read on his range and Steve"s comment about hitting the flop big I went with the call and got it horribly wrong. There aren"t many times I play that i actually feel like a complete donk, but have to admit this was one of them (despite the end result). More experience, more learning, better reading needed...........cheers for the advice guys, all much appreciated
TheSnapper:
--- Quote from: noble1 on September 12, 2011, 09:44:48 AM ---
Grant in a full handed micro stakes game more often than not u will run into a real hand, rethink your whole approach.
so basically all u have to do is just attack the weak players to make money in the micros, raise to isolate a loose passive fish, or reraise to isolate a loose aggressive maniac etc. attack players who cannot fold 2nd best hands or attack weak tight types who fold to aggression or who may check fold/give up to much.. so size up the types u are up against, get a read on them, be it that are they fish, maniacs, or calling stations etc, isolate them with position and adjust your range using hands that have big hand potential or something that can make a decent tptk etc... its important in the micros to be selective when opening a pot from earlier, but from late position u can open up to a more short handed game style.
so in summary in micro full ring game base your game around the strategy of isolating anyone who does anything that is easy to exploit, after all its cash, u are playing for the long term, sit there and get used to judging the ability of your opponents and what strength hands they are prepared to stack off with/over play etc, use position and exploit them... forget blind stealing to a certain extent unless of course they fold enough to make it profitable to steal super wide..
if u dont have a read and these guys are going berserk on any flop more-so on textures like these, then just fold.. adjust later if/when u see a showdown..
question - given the stacks sizes, how the action goes plus the flop texture, how often in your opinion will u see a worse hand?
with reads = more correct decisions long term = profit long term
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Another nice post Noble but!
This one sentence is contradictory and imho, bad advise. Blind stealing is a major factor in your win rate and an integral part of a winning strategy. You absolutely must understand, and correctly exploit stealing opportunities.
Santino: Try seperate threads for these hands, much cleaner and easier for posters to find the hand they are following.
noble1:
--- Quote ---forget blind stealing to a certain extent unless of course they fold enough to make it profitable to steal super wide..
--- End quote ---
--- Quote ---This one sentence is contradictory and imho, bad advise. Blind stealing is a major factor in your win rate and an integral part of a winning strategy. You absolutely must understand, and correctly exploit stealing opportunities.
--- End quote ---
naaa , i did say to a certain extent and unless its profitable.... just trying to point out the major difference between 6max and full ring...
i should of wrote - Blind stealing is a major factor in your win rate in 6max, less so in full ring...
--- Quote ---Santino: Try seperate threads for these hands, much cleaner and easier for posters to find the hand they are following.
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or stick the whole session hh in a replayer, give the link and see if the APATers can pick up on anything u maybe missing..
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