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AJo and 10 bbs

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duke3016:

--- Quote from: WYoung83 on September 21, 2011, 18:15:16 PM ---
Im obv not bothered about a min cash or busting before money, but wanna go as deep as possible.

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Erm shove then  ;D

Santino67:
I"d be tempted to raise 2.2 - 2.4 pre with poss stop n go on flop if called behind pre, especially if you have a tight image at table. Think 12 BB"s shove is too big and could suggest desperate with open spot looking to steal.

George2Loose:

--- Quote from: Santino67 on September 21, 2011, 22:46:04 PM ---
I"d be tempted to raise 2.2 - 2.4 pre with poss stop n go on flop if called behind pre, especially if you have a tight image at table. Think 12 BB"s shove is too big and could suggest desperate with open spot looking to steal.

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Do not do this. If you get called it"s a nightmare and if you get set in it"s a puke fold in which case your 12bb stack is now close to 9 bigs.

I used to jam these spots so often but you"re basically burning money. No one plays to min cash- but in an online comp ave stack is gonna be circa 20 bigs anyway so you"re only one double up from having a good shot. Fold to the money- timebank if you need to.

WYoung83:
 Thanks for the replies guys. All taken on board. I decided to shove and got called by AQ and i went busto,

fwiw, the result didnt matter at all to me, and i would of started this thread weather i won or lost the hand. I just wanted to know if it was the correct play EV wise without beign results oriented of course.

AMRN:
I played the Sky Grand Final, and found myself with 12x just around the bubble.........  decided that a min cash was irrelevant and that I was playing to win, and that I would take advantage of the bubble.... it folds to me in the SB and I shove and win, then next hand it folds to me on the btn, and I shove blind, get called, and lose.

At the time I justified it by saying I was trying to steal the (very significant) blinds and antes for survival.... but on reflection, just fold another orbit, still have ~10x, and be £300 better off.  The buy-in and expenses cost me just about £300, so yeah it would only be a break even result.... but I still had time to find a decent hand and double up, and the avg stack at the time was only around 20x. 

Whilst a min cash is not what we set out to achieve, the difference between playing for 14 hours for nothing, and 14.5 hours for £300 is huge - there is no other money jump that is so huge in percentage terms.  There is a lot more credit to a min cash than I had previously considered.  Therefore AJo in MP is a fairly simple fold in the OP situation.....

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