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Season 6 Discussion
TightEnd:
--- Quote from: AMRN on February 13, 2012, 11:44:33 AM ---
The WCOAP Main Event ran with a 15k stack in 2011, but stuck to the normal APAT structure (I don"t remember any levels being removed, but I left around level 10) - it afforded far much more play early on, but didn"t lengthen the playing time significantly (if I recall correctly).
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iirc
finish after midnight on the final day.
I think we alighted, through experience, some luck, some skill on a fairly magnificent tournament structure where the only time the average stack is under a lot of pressure is the first level on day two...finals for example play out with loads of play.
I do think that if you make it 15,000, you have to give something from the structure IF players want to be away from a venue before 10pm on the Sunday (or start earlier, where casinos have problems with staff rotas in so doing)
scouse3465:
A 15 k starting stack would be better for players that like to play , but for a lot of apaters who still nit it up and wait for monsters means a 15 k starting stack may make it too late a finish on the sunday. It all depends on which players make final table. I am sure rich knows this because he see`s all the final tables. Although it shouldnt make too much difference towards the end in bigger events , I think APAT could be take longer when people dont call when they are priced in or shove when they should do. I have seen it therefore could easily add too much time to the sunday night. Rich and Leigh would be the most informed people to work this out , I know Leigh definately has seen it because i spoke to him about it on final tables. Also the apat team shouldnt have to be there until a stupid time on sunday night. I know there are laggy players and nit in all tournaments but I believe APAT still has more of the latter than any other tournament. This is not a dig at nits , upto u how u play but still may or may not make it too late a finish , sure the experts in apat tournies structure will know and decide .
TightEnd:
Scouse makes some good points. Albeit the APAT player is more experienced than 2006-07 but they APATs still play tighter for longer than all other events I cover. Not necessarily a bad thing, just how it is
SirPercival:
Give everyone a million chips and start blinds at 2500/5000.
Sorted. ;D
AMRN:
--- Quote from: Des on February 13, 2012, 11:48:02 AM ---
But will this actually improve your experience or would it require us to play 14 levels on day 1 instead of 12
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If the WCOAP ME had to play out two extra levels per day, then I stand corrected. EDIT: Just saw Tighty"s clarification, so stand very corrected now.
--- Quote from: Des on February 13, 2012, 11:48:02 AM ---
Would it result in the tournament becoming more of a chore for our less experienced players or those who also want the weekend to be a social experience?
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Not sure about it becoming a chore for less experienced players.... surely it would provide room for even more play early on, and to the "less experienced player", that may intimate increased value for money.
As Rob says above, all the major tours used to play 10k stacks but have moved on to larger stacks. I seem to recall that one of APAT's objectives was to provide a "learning ground" for players to introduce themselves to the tour market, and the 10k deepstack gave that tour tournament structure but at a lower buy in.... Is there not a case that APAT needs to keep up with the changing market if it is to continue to provide the learning ground to the tour events?
Not having a dig at APAT here btw, and will continue to play all the events that I can regardless..... but debate is healthy, right?
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