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Paulie_D:

--- Quote from: AMRN on February 13, 2012, 12:08:32 PM ---

..all the major tours used to play 10k stacks but have moved on to larger stacks. I seem to recall that one of APAT's objectives was to provide a "learning ground" for players to introduce themselves to the tour market, and the 10k deepstack gave that tour tournament structure but at a lower buy in.... Is there not a case that APAT needs to keep up with the changing market if it is to continue to provide the learning ground to the tour events?


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From my point of view, these other tours have higher buy-ins and have to provide "better value" to justify the extra expenditure. To many, "better value" is often synonymous with "more chips".

We know that this isn"t necessarily the case.


--- Quote from: AMRN on February 13, 2012, 15:26:15 PM ---

There are cash games in abundance, so personal preference is in favour of the alternative side events rather than the cash tour.


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I think, AFAIK, that Des has always made it clear that the Cash Tour was never intended to act as a replacement for the Sunday side events.

amcgrath1uk:
As someone who is relatively new to APAT, I just want to say the starting stacks and structure are spot on. If there is to be an increase in starting stacks, then as others have mentioned, to get to finished at a decent time on the Sunday, you"d have to lose levels. For me, I"d keep it as it is. The current structure creates pressure for the players at the right times, without ever turning into a crapshoot.

I"ve never had the opportunity to play Omaha, Razz and Stud live, and would love the opportunity ( especially as it"s not expensive).

nosey-p:

--- Quote from: TightEnd on February 13, 2012, 15:21:19 PM ---

--- Quote from: nosey-p on February 13, 2012, 15:04:42 PM ---
No support for the TWAC

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Open to all ideas

the problems I see are

a) It"s against what APAT provides, and is known for....deep structure good clock MTTs. I don"t see what it adds to APAT as an orgainisation, or a player base looking for value for money

b) If you want to hold it alongside National Amateur events, is this in addition to or instead of side events or a cash tour? If you want it to be a weekend in its own right, well something has to give from a national amateur schedule or the budget has to be higher....

c) depending on your answer to b) if its to be run alongside a planned weekend most venues are not going to be able to resource all three, or a turbo/national simultaneously.

I like the idea of new concepts, we"ve done a load..just not sure a turbo is one of those. as unscientific back up to that, I"ve never heard anyone ask for one until now!



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I was thinking of a standalone weekend, just something different. Testing the water rely to see if they was any interest in it

I like to put forward the idea of a shootout for a side event  



--- Quote from: AMRN on February 13, 2012, 15:26:15 PM ---
Instead of TWAP.... let"s have a coin flip contest. We could use 2p coins in the main event, £1 coins in the high roller, and £5 coins in the super high roller.    ;D  ;)


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It's a good job I know you or I could have taken this the wrong way.  Just trying to think of new ideas

AMRN:

--- Quote from: nosey-p on February 13, 2012, 17:05:32 PM ---
It's a good job I know you or I could have taken this the wrong way.  Just trying to think of new ideas

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Wouldn"t have responded that way if I didn"t know you could take it Wayne ;)    you gotta admit though, it has potential merit at the bar late on a Saturday night, particularly with Ger in the game :)


as for new ideas, the WCOAP gives some great value for the mixed game players with HORSE, Stud, and Omaha on the table.... I wonder if we might be able to go a bit further with 2-7TD, or better still an 8-game tourney?  (would be tough on the dealers though)

Des:
National Online League announcement to follow before close of play on Wednesday.

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