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Season 6 Discussion
MintTrav:
--- Quote from: TightEnd on September 30, 2011, 11:43:43 AM ---
We cannot go earlier in August...WSOP and summer holidays
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Does the WSOP affect APAT's schedule?
TightEnd:
On a couple of points
APAT rules are used at all events. Provided to venue beforehand. Often though "in the heat of the moment" TD"s revert to their norm, particularly if its not the main person on duty. Its down to quality of card-room manager briefing of their teams. Some are receptive to prods, some aren"t, mid event
An APAT TD is fine in principal, but it diverts a lot of resource away from the other stuff that needs doing over a weekend if an APAT organiser did it. Getting an external TD for all APATs (eg Dena) would be great, but down to funding as ever
New concepts like bounties, turbos, re-entries. I think these are unneccesary for APAT nationals, which work perfectly well. They provide affordable long clock tournaments, orginially for those comparatively inexperienced in tournament poker. I don"t think fiddling with bells and whistles for APAT National Championships is the way to go. Experimenting in some side events is on the agenda though.
Post event reporting: I was unaware it was any lower profile than it used to be, still provided externally within 24 hours of an event.
Obviously there is little overlap between the WSOP and APAT in terms of player bases but a clash is undesirable because getting coverage/airtime/exposure to an APAT event during the WSOP is tough. An APAT event is not just about the weekend itself its about publicity, gaining membership, strengthening the brand etc etc
A clash with big UK festival events is undesirable because often the people required to run an APAT are busy/working at the bigger events too. Can"t be two places at once. In addition APAT added value has to date been into EPT/GUKPT/UKIPT and presumably the same next year. Put an APAT on alongside these and it becomes tougher for APAT players to use that added value.
SirPercival:
--- Quote from: TightEnd on October 01, 2011, 10:56:17 AM ---
An APAT TD is fine in principal, but it diverts a lot of resource away from the other stuff that needs doing over a weekend if an APAT organiser did it. Getting an external TD for all APATs (eg Dena) would be great, but down to funding as ever
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OK, I"ve changed my mind. Tighty you"re back on updates mate. :o
SirPercival:
--- Quote from: TightEnd on October 01, 2011, 10:56:17 AM ---
New concepts like bounties, turbos, re-entries. I think these are unneccesary for APAT nationals, which work perfectly well. They provide affordable long clock tournaments, orginially for those comparatively inexperienced in tournament poker. I don"t think fiddling with bells and whistles for APAT National Championships is the way to go. Experimenting in some side events is on the agenda though.
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100% agree.
Joker161:
OK, here goes:
Countries: One event outside of the UK/Ireland seems about right. I haven"t been on one, but they sound like a right laugh!
Venues: I quite like the idea of a Liverpool/Manchester leg, although I wouldn"t mind Brighton given that I can walk to both casinos!
Structure/buy in/pay structure: All fine. I think most APATers are happy just to cash, so the pay structure is not top of their priorities.
Added Value: Not to be expected, but always a bonus when there is added value. It was great to see Swinebag do so well in the UKIPT after winning the seat in the Scottish Online Champs.
From "trophies" down to "team events": No real view. All seems good to me.
Side events: A good addition. Most of us have been knocked out by Day 2, and if we have travelled a long way we will have booked Sunday night at a hotel IN CASE we do well (usually not the case!). So the Sunday side event is welcome, and I particularly like the fact that it covers the other variations (hence, no need for a NLHE side event).
Formats: Personally, I"m not a fan of re-buys, even though that"s all they offered at the Rendezvous in Brighton when I started playing. As someone else said earlier, it helps those with big pockets. It also changes the way the game is played, and not for the better IMO.
Schedule: A big one for me. As a teacher, I can"t attend most events. No need for the violins - I get 15 weeks off a year - but sadly I can"t take any ONE day off. So the best weekends for me are (obviously) those in the holidays or those at the start of a half term. The end of a half term is no good as I can"t have the Monday off. Do feel free to ignore all this - with the current schedule I still manage about three events a year.
Online: The Chamionships on Saturdays are not ideal because, I assume, it"s the night one might go out, but there"s no other day really, what with the league on the Sunday. I think Sundays are best, so perhaps you hold the Chamionships on Sundays with no leagues? Again, feel free to ignore. They are all good fun and I do manage to play a few every year.
Probably enough to be going on with. Of course, thanks again to Tighty, Des and Leigh for the massive amount of work involved. Great set-ups like APAT need passion as well, and all three have it in spades. THANKS!
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