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Hand from the team event.
Jon MW:
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--- Quote from: ronaldo07 on October 25, 2011, 17:10:17 PM ---
As long as there is no monster or short stacks in blinds I prob make it 5k. Don"t like the shove cos u r mostly flipping/ behind when called so u have to get it thru a big % of time.
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So are you really planning to put nearly a 1/3 of your chips in, fold to a shove and leave yourself with about 15bb?
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Yes exactly this. Why go AI when 1/3 of AI gets the same job done?
If he 4 bets u are crushed anyway and I"m plenty good enough to come back from 15 bigs.
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What do u think his 4b range is? We are very likely getting the correct price against this range. If I 3b small, its to try and get lower pairs to jam.
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It"s irrelevant what his 4b range is - you"re too short stacked to 3 bet less than a shove. As AMRN said earlier, you have the perfect stack size for jamming with the perfect cards for doing it with - as he said you should be 3 bet jamming in this spot with worse hands than 99.
You shove for the fold equity and for the fact that you"re mainly going to be flipping if you"re going to be called - this is not a bad outcome.
Generalising - if you"re 50:50 when you"re called but your fold equity means you"ll only be called 50% of the time - that means shoving gives you a 75% chance of winning the hand.
If you take any less cautious line then you may have a better chance of creeping into the money - but there"s no profit in continually min cashing.
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: ronaldo07 on October 26, 2011, 12:28:11 PM ---
AA KK QQ AK
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That probably is his 4 bet range - but what do you do when he calls - which he normally will - and the flop comes with any A, K, Q, J or T? Or if it"s coordinated for straight or flush possibilities?
AMRN:
--- Quote from: ronaldo07 on October 26, 2011, 12:28:11 PM ---
AA KK QQ AK
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If you think that"s the extent of a typical 4b range, I would like to be on your table please. ;)
Jon MW:
--- Quote from: AMRN on October 26, 2011, 12:31:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: ronaldo07 on October 26, 2011, 12:28:11 PM ---
AA KK QQ AK
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If you think that"s the extent of a typical 4b range, I would like to be on your table please. ;)
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lol - I actually think that"s feasible, but as I just said above I don"t think his choices are shove or fold and that"s where the problem arises as to what to do next.
deanp27:
I would suggest that open folding>3bet/folding.
But I don"t like folding
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