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Poker Forum => Online Archive => Online Poker => General Online Poker Discussion => Topic started by: BOINGBLITZ on November 28, 2011, 00:00:31 AM
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From the rules ....
14 - The top three players of the winning team in each division, along with the Divisional Player of The Season will be allocated an entry into a live tournament.
A £10 re-buy?
Can this be clarified please.
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From the rules ....
14 - The top three players of the winning team in each division, along with the Divisional Player of The Season will be allocated an entry into a live tournament.
A £10 re-buy?
Can this be clarified please.
And what if the Divisional Player of the Season is from the winning team, and is one of the top three from that team.... do the seats then go to the top four in the winning team?
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Yes Steve....do you know when the Final game is.....can"t see it being next Sunday now?
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Yes Steve....do you know when the Final game is.....can"t see it being next Sunday now?
its in the lobby for next sunday , but seem to recall a mention of moving it ,
player of season is it not top scoring player from each division, and would assume if player came from the winning team then 4th place scorer in team would also get a seat
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Spot on Gerry, as stated in rules.
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Yes Steve....do you know when the Final game is.....can"t see it being next Sunday now?
going to ask for it to be moved back a week to avoid Manchester
Other questions, just checking one thing and then will post
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Thanx Rich
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The seats are UKIPT seats , and if the winner of individual standings is a player of the winning team then think only fair if it goes to next highest in the individual standings . And i not saying that cos i up there i have said that all season (and am pretty sure i will be overtaken on last game ). It would be unfair imo if the winning team gets all 4 seats.
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The seats are UKIPT seats , and if the winner of individual standings is a player of the winning team then think only fair if it goes to next highest in the individual standings . And i not saying that cos i up there i have said that all season (and am pretty sure i will be overtaken on last game ). It would be unfair imo if the winning team gets all 4 seats.
Are they not just APAT live tourney seats for next season , dont see a mention of UKIPT seats
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The seats are UKIPT seats , and if the winner of individual standings is a player of the winning team then think only fair if it goes to next highest in the individual standings . And i not saying that cos i up there i have said that all season (and am pretty sure i will be overtaken on last game ). It would be unfair imo if the winning team gets all 4 seats.
Are they not just APAT live tourney seats for next season , dont see a mention of UKIPT seats
14 - The top three players of the winning team in each division, along with the Divisional Player of The Season will be allocated an entry into a live tournament. Should the Divisional Player of the Season also be one of the top three players in the winning team, then the saet will be awarded to the fourth placed player in the winning team.
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Added Value Seats
Division 1
The top three players of the winning team in each division, along with the Divisional Player of The Season will be allocated an entry into a UKIPT Main Event. (Seat only, worth £500)
taken from online league discussion !
And seen rule about if winner is from winning team and think that is a bit of a disgrace tbh.
So winning team get all 4 and someone with a lot less points than quite a few players gets a seat.
My own fault for not reading rules at start or would have brought it up .
I knew when this league started we were rank outsiders after walsall/birmingham became west mids and was basically playing trying to win individual so now will have to try and stay top but very unlikely.
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Added Value Seats
Division 1
The top three players of the winning team in each division, along with the Divisional Player of The Season will be allocated an entry into a UKIPT Main Event. (Seat only, worth £500)
taken from online league discussion !
And seen rule about if winner is from winning team and think that is a bit of a disgrace tbh.
So winning team get all 4 and someone with a lot less points than quite a few players gets a seat.
My own fault for not reading rules at start or would have brought it up .
I knew when this league started we were rank outsiders after walsall/birmingham became west mids and was basically playing trying to win individual so now will have to try and stay top but very unlikely.
Sorry scouse was thinking about Div 2 , maybe its just live seats for us
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Division 2
The top three players of the winning team in each division, along with the Divisional Player of The Season will be allocated an entry into the APAT European Amateur Championship to be held in Prague. (Seat and contribution to travel expenses, total package worth £250)
must be something else equivalnt now ??
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I think the rule in place is fair tbh... if the team is good enough to win and one player in the team is good enough to win individual they deserve the tickets. It would be fairer if he winner got 2 seats for the added effort but the next best thing would be a team mate gets one ;)
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dont think it will affect Div 2 anyway , as Dublin players at top of individual , and closest Glasgow is too far behind anyway for top spot
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dont think it will affect Div 2 anyway , as Dublin players at top of individual , and closest Glasgow is too far behind anyway for top spot
Yeah mate.... i"ll just take my seat from the team points :D
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Division 2
The top three players of the winning team in each division, along with the Divisional Player of The Season will be allocated an entry into the APAT European Amateur Championship to be held in Prague. (Seat and contribution to travel expenses, total package worth £250)
must be something else equivalnt now ??
ahhh , ok was looking at rules rather than discussion .. . and yea something different I would assume , maybe a choice of season 6 or Brighton maybe
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dont think it will affect Div 2 anyway , as Dublin players at top of individual , and closest Glasgow is too far behind anyway for top spot
Yeah mate.... i"ll just take my seat from the team points :D
Better get defending hard on last game then ,lol stiff competition
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The rules are there Steve and whether we like em or not, we have to abide by them.
Whatever was said in a discussion about the value of the seats, I can"t see anything in the rules that says an actual value, hence my original question.
If it states somewhere that it is a UKIPT seat, then that surely has to be honoured (£770 value now I believe?)
If it states that it is a £550 seat, then that surely has to be honoured.....I just can"t find ANYTHING stated anywhere, but hopefully Rich can clarify the situation soon.
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Hmmm.....could be interesting then as a seat only is now worth £700.
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Hmmm.....could be interesting then as a seat only is now worth £700.
Not interesting at all really...we"d find an equivalent value to the £550
current APAT added value is 888 Superstack seats, not UKIPTs, for example
I have asked Des to take a look and clarify
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Hmmm.....could be interesting then as a seat only is now worth £700.
Not interesting at all really...we"d find an equivalent value to the £550
current APAT added value is 888 Superstack seats, not UKIPTs, for example
I have asked Des to take a look and clarify
Genting Poker Series for £430....
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Hmmm.....could be interesting then as a seat only is now worth £700.
Not interesting at all really...we"d find an equivalent value to the £550
current APAT added value is 888 Superstack seats, not UKIPTs, for example
I have asked Des to take a look and clarify
Agreed, we"d look to do the Genting Poker seats, albeit at the slightly lower value. For the Div 2 prizes, we"d look to switch to a WCOAP passport to the value of £200 to £250, tbc when we finalise the WCOAP 2012 schedule.
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Hmmm.....could be interesting then as a seat only is now worth £700.
Not interesting at all really...we"d find an equivalent value to the £550
current APAT added value is 888 Superstack seats, not UKIPTs, for example
I have asked Des to take a look and clarify
Agreed, we"d look to do the Genting Poker seats, albeit at the slightly lower value. For the Div 2 prizes, we"d look to switch to a WCOAP passport to the value of £200 to £250, tbc when we finalise the WCOAP 2012 schedule.
Oh that means if i win one i gotta learn the games. better get cracking. lol
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For the Div 2 prizes, we"d look to switch to a WCOAP passport to the value of £200 to £250, tbc when we finalise the WCOAP 2012 schedule.
that"s an excellent idea, and would be really attractive value add for future tourneys (in my opinion)
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For the Div 2 prizes, we"d look to switch to a WCOAP passport to the value of £200 to £250, tbc when we finalise the WCOAP 2012 schedule.
that"s an excellent idea, and would be really attractive value add for future tourneys (in my opinion)
We agree.
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I totally disagree.
"The top three players of the winning team in each division, along with the Divisional Player of The Season will be allocated an entry into a UKIPT Main Event. (Seat only, worth £500)"
So which is it....a UKIPT Main Event seat or a £500 seat?
It has to be one or the other or the rules are being changed after the fact surely?
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If you are going to give out £430 seats then I assume you will also be giving each player £120 cash?
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Or expanding it to 4 from the winning team to use up the newly saved 3x£120 (plus a wee bit)...?
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Earlier on I replied to Scouse"s idea by stating that "Rules are rules" because you can"t go changing them because you don"t like who wins.
The same applies here...whether you like Paul"s or Scouse"s ideas is irrelevant...the prizes and who wins them are quite clear and should not be changed now the League is almost over.
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Earlier on I replied to Scouse"s idea by stating that "Rules are rules" because you can"t go changing them because you don"t like who wins.
The same applies here...whether you like Paul"s or Scouse"s ideas is irrelevant...the prizes and who wins them are quite clear and should not be changed now the League is almost over.
Think you arguing with yourself here bri ! I said thats the rules and that is what happens and my own fault for not reading them at start of year.
It is un fair for a player to finish 20th win a seat and a player gets 2nd for nothing but such is life ,the league started on an unfair footing for yourselves too but that can or worms was closed a while ago.
As for the seats i believe you just get cash in 888 account and buy in yourself anyway , so u get what stated 500 quid and 250 quid for div 2 then buy in to what it is i suppose.
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Agree in principle with your sentiments Steve. All I am saying is these £500 or £550 or whatever the rule is deemed to be, should not now become £430 packages. If someone wants to use them to play a £430 event, they get to keep the balance.
All I wanted, and from what I can see, still haven"t got, is clarification on what my players plus the Individual winner, will be getting.
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As for the seats i believe you just get cash in 888 account and buy in yourself anyway , so u get what stated 500 quid and 250 quid for div 2 then buy in to what it is i suppose.
Not always correct, the UKIPT seats via 888 were paid into players accounts. For all other prizes so far I have arranged and paid for the entries eg GUKPTs this year
So it is not the case, most likely, that a winner would get a bundle of cash to play what he likes. I"d be sorting out the entry
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All I wanted, and from what I can see, still haven"t got, is clarification on what my players plus the Individual winner, will be getting.
There is complete clarification from yesterday, less than 24 hours after it was sought
Agreed, we"d look to do the Genting Poker seats, albeit at the slightly lower value. For the Div 2 prizes, we"d look to switch to a WCOAP passport to the value of £200 to £250, tbc when we finalise the WCOAP 2012 schedule.
Genting Poker Tour because the UKIPT buy ins have been raised for 2012. Indeed the APAT live event added value has already switched away from the UK for this reason. The new Genting Poker Tour is the nearest equivalent within the price range
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Agree in principle with your sentiments Steve. All I am saying is these £500 or £550 or whatever the rule is deemed to be, should not now become £430 packages. If someone wants to use them to play a £430 event, they get to keep the balance.
All I wanted, and from what I can see, still haven"t got, is clarification on what my players plus the Individual winner, will be getting.
I agree with that.. the price of the prize should remain as originally stated (£500/£250) wether or not the new tourny is a lower value the extra should be paid out as towards travel ect.
On that note Div 1 prize was stated as £500 and not £550 as someone assumed for UKIPT seat
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Reading some of what is written above is quite depressing TBH. This "pay out the difference" stance is totally disingenuous. Please take a step back and think.
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Reading some of what is written above is quite depressing TBH. This "pay out the difference" stance is totally disingenuous. Please take a step back and think.
Glad to see that there are still voices of reason out there.
wp AJD
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Reading some of what is written above is quite depressing TBH. This "pay out the difference" stance is totally disingenuous. Please take a step back and think.
Just an opinion on my part mate.... wasn"t having a go and no disrespect meant ;) The guys have to change the prize due to unforseen circumstances and worked to come up with the next best option.... All i meant was the fact a cash amount has been stated kinda tied them in.
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From my perspective, this is all ADDED value, and anything that is free is good for me!! If the prize was paid for by extracting from the weekly buy ins, then that would be different.... but when it"s given in addition, it"s all good.
If miracles happen, and I am lucky enough to bag a seat in the last week, I"m personally hoping it ends up being a Genting seat.
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I hate seeing things being changed AFTER things have started. If it was stated as a £500 seat, it should be a £500 seat and not a £430 seat.
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DTD running a £560 deepstack with £200k guarantee in January...problem solved....give each of the winners a seat in that.
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I hate seeing things being changed AFTER things have started. If it was stated as a £500 seat, it should be a £500 seat and not a £430 seat.
DTD running a £560 deepstack with £200k guarantee in January...problem solved....give each of the winners a seat in that.
Come on...you can"t have it both ways....either it"s a £500 seat or it isn"t.
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I hate seeing things being changed AFTER things have started. If it was stated as a £500 seat, it should be a £500 seat and not a £430 seat.
DTD running a £560 deepstack with £200k guarantee in January...problem solved....give each of the winners a seat in that.
Come on...you can"t have it both ways....either it"s a £500 seat or it isn"t.
I lol"ed ;D
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Thread is tilting me so hard.
It is added value. It"s just too bad and of course an unforeseen circumstance that buyins have changed in the UKIPT. No one is trying to short change anyone here.
Like andy said, take a step back guys and think a bit harder please.
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Thread is tilting me so hard.
It is added value. It"s just too bad and of course an unforeseen circumstance that buyins have changed in the UKIPT. No one is trying to short change anyone here.
Like andy said, take a step back guys and think a bit harder please.
+1 to this and andy
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I lol"ed ;D
Actually, I think you L"edOL
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I lol"ed ;D
Actually, I think you L"edOL
I L"edOL at that!!
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You are all too clever for me.... if taking something off whoever wins AFTER they have won it is correct, then you carry on.
After all, nobody can stop it anyway, whatever is decided.
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I have not entered this debate for various reasons, not least that I sometimes think people need to give others the benefit of the doubt in a particularly difficult time. But come on Bri, you know I like and respect you totally, however, I for one am not too clever at all, I am pragmatic, it's tough enough to negotiate this added value stuff at the best of times.
Circumstances change it's a fact that affects us all in all walks of life.
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Agreed Ger...so what is wrong with saying to the winners "There is a £560 event at DTD in January and we will put the £500 (£550 ??) towards that but you make up the shortfall yourself"
In my mind that is much better than "We advertised it as a £500 (£550 ??) seat all season, but now you have won, we are taking £70 off you"
Sorry, but if I did that to last seasons BCPC winner, would he be happy???
Can"t see it myself.
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Having said that, I seem to be in a minority of one !!
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Thing is Bri, when you use your BCPC example you are treating the terms "prizepool" and "added value" as the same, when they are clearly not.
If you pay people into events at the BCPC out of your own pocket and not from an accumulative pool of money that members pay over the course of a season, then I of course apologise for my mistake and congratulate you on your generosity
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Thing is Bri, when you use your BCPC example you are treating the terms "prizepool" and "added value" as the same, when they are clearly not.
If you pay people into events at the BCPC out of your own pocket and not from an accumulative pool of money that members pay over the course of a season, then I of course apologise for my mistake and congratulate you on your generosity
this is the difference (and quite a big difference too). BCPC "prizes" are made up from money that we each pay every month..... the APAT league prize is just that, a prize. As the seats are awarded in addition to the overall prize pool of the competition, I think we should be grateful for whatever APAT are able to negotiate with sponsors..... and in this day, age, and climate, I think any added value from a sponsor should be well received, even if the value of the seat changes due to the UKIPT changing their buy in.
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So this is the sponsors decision to take the money off the winners then??
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So this is the sponsors decision to take the money off the winners then??
LOL Bri - excuse if I sigh
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So this is the sponsors decision to take the money off the winners then??
No
Brian I am sure when push comes to shove we (APAT) aren"t going to quibble over a £430 entry or a £500 one.
when we suggested the new Genting Tour as an alternative (prompted by Steve) it looked to be a good alternative that"s all. There was no ulterior motive to reduce added value. Naively, I didn"t think it would be an issue for anyone.
That said, what sticks in my throat a bit, and really I wanted to avoid saying these sort of things but it seems you need it spelling out, is that its been an odd year for APAT, tricky sponsorship market and that has been personally felt by all those involved in running APAT which has been run on a complete shoestring with cost reductions wherever possible
In that environment, and not wishing to exaggerate but merely stating the facts, I would have hoped the bigger picture would be seen as the priority.
As I say though, I am sure we can search behind the sofa and come up with something that makes you feel happy.
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So this is the sponsors decision to take the money off the winners then??
LOL Bri - excuse if I sigh
+ 1
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So this is the sponsors decision to take the money off the winners then??
No
Brian I am sure when push comes to shove we (APAT) aren"t going to quibble over a £430 entry or a £500 one.
when we suggested the new Genting Tour as an alternative (prompted by Steve) it looked to be a good alternative that"s all. There was no ulterior motive to reduce added value. Naively, I didn"t think it would be an issue for anyone.
That said, what sticks in my throat a bit, and really I wanted to avoid saying these sort of things but it seems you need it spelling out, is that its been an odd year for APAT, tricky sponsorship market and that has been personally felt by all those involved in running APAT which has been run on a complete shoestring with cost reductions wherever possible
In that environment, and not wishing to exaggerate but merely stating the facts, I would have hoped the bigger picture would be seen as the priority.
As I say though, I am sure we can search behind the sofa and come up with something that makes you feel happy.
Nicely put. ;D
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Well played Tighty !
And Bri on your point about taking something off someone who has already won , That is exactly how and individual would feel if they finished 2nd or 3rd to west midlands players in individual standing s and another west mids player gets the seat who finishes 20th in individual standings .
You do like your double standings as longs as it suits your team !
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I"ve stayed clear of this discussion for a while now, but it looks like it"ll trundle along unless I give my two penneth.
Brian - you"re missing the point with regards the added value that APAT secures for our members.
We do not offer cash on top, or allow the seats to be transferred or sold. The seats themselves have a net value of ZERO; unless a member makes the top 10% of the added value event and cashes. The added GPT event we"re talking about has a superb structure - 60 min clock, 25k starting stack, and a guaranteed prize pool of ONE HUNDRED GRAND.
And still you"re worried about a £70 difference in the "advertised" prize - despite the fact that the UKIPT buy in has clearly increased to £770.
The impression you"re leaving here is that APAT will pocket the £70 difference, despite the fact that for approaching six years now, we have ran registration free events; worth thousands of pounds for our members, have added value in seats to every online and live event, not to mention trophies and medals and given you the opportunity to play and improve your game in high quality tournaments for a throw-a-way low buy in. I won"t even mention the community aspect, which no other poker tour offers.
APAT does not turn a profit of any sort and will aim to exit this season with a bank balance of zero, because that is absolutely in line with our strategy of returning as much value to members as we can secure on your behalf.
And we"re not Marks & Spencer with regards the comment on "advertised" prizes.
We change things if they are not right; just as we did the schedule for the last two events of this season because members thought we could improve, just like we"ve done with our structures, our rules and other aspects of APAT that members said could be improved.
If you don"t get that then you"re not an APAT-er.
Don"t you remember how you felt when you were appointed as an England player in Season 3, or England captain in Season 4, or how you felt when I interviewed you as Irish Amateur Champion in Dublin, or when you won the National Online League for the first time with Walsall? If you do, then take the advice of your friends on this thread and step back and think of what you"re saying for a minute.
If when you"ve done that you still want the difference in prize money made up, I will pay you from my own pocket.
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I don"t play in the league games and have no "invested interest" in this issue but would like to tell you all a little story:
Some ten years ago when I used to try and play snooker competitively I entered a competition about an hour away from where I lived. The competition was out of season really but the club owner decided to give one a try. And he tried hard, posters everywhere, all clubs, working mens clubs, you name it he advertised it. It was only £10 entry but he had guaranteed £500 in prize fund. Whatever happened he would be adding money from his own pocket as 50 entries was never going to be reached. He didn"t mind, he was a snooker fan, he would always put £300 up towards the County Singles Competition as a little extra even though it wasn"t held at his club! As you have probably gathered by now, a very genuine and generous guy!
Anyway, a grand total of eight players turned up!!! He was dissapointed to say the least. We all gathered and a discussion started. The guy stated how dissapointed he was and suggested we all took our entries back, he would throw in £200 and we have a small tournament between us and we can split the money as we like. He then explained that he would rearrange the £500 guarentee tournament for another time "in season". Most of us thought it would be good if we all took £10 towards travel expenses and play for the rest. One player in particular was not having any of it!!
"I"ve come to play in a £500 guaranteed tournament, that"s what I expect!"
In the end the club owner took our £10 entries, added the extra £420 to make up the shortfall and we played for the money.
Surprizingly enough the chap to this day has NEVER held another competition and stopped donating his £300 a year to county events!
I"m sure most of you can see that a few minutes of selfishness has caused years of lost "value".
I hope all involved come to a happy and mutual agreement so we can all enjoy the masses of "added value" in the years to come.
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Well said Des ,
Now i just pray i can hold on for one of the added value seats and will take whatever i am given for FREE !!
many thanks
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Wow, I"ve entered a parallel universe :-[
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Wow, I"ve entered a parallel universe :-[
tell me about it, just read the thread. TILT
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Having said that, I seem to be in a minority of one !!
Bri, as a mate and someone who values your friendship highly, as we all do by the way, just read the above one more time and perhaps consider that a deep sigh and a move on is in order here.
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Starting to feel like this is going so far the other way that it"s becoming an anti-Brian witch hunt. The point"s been made I think - can we all be friends again?
Brian, if it"s any consolation I intend to win the final league game so I overtake you and you don"t qualify anyway... ;) 8)
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It was never about "My" seat, as I do not have one, but I accept that the massive opinion (in fact EVERYBODY!) disagrees with me.
I guess I was wrong.
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It was never about "My" seat, as I do not have one, but I accept that the massive opinion (in fact EVERYBODY!) disagrees with me.
I guess I was wrong.
I have no real opinion here, but gotta point out it takes a BIG MAN to say this,
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It was never about "My" seat, as I do not have one, but I accept that the massive opinion (in fact EVERYBODY!) disagrees with me.
I guess I was wrong.
I have no real opinion here, but gotta point out it takes a BIG MAN to say this,
Agreed, appreciate it Brian.
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It was never about "My" seat, as I do not have one, but I accept that the massive opinion (in fact EVERYBODY!) disagrees with me.
I guess I was wrong.
I agreed with ya..
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It was never about "My" seat, as I do not have one, but I accept that the massive opinion (in fact EVERYBODY!) disagrees with me.
I guess I was wrong.
Good man
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It was never about "My" seat, as I do not have one, but I accept that the massive opinion (in fact EVERYBODY!) disagrees with me.
I guess I was wrong.
I agreed with ya..
sometimes Carl....
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I agree with everyone. What was the question again ?
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I agree with everyone. What was the question again ?
I agree with you Leigh, 8) 8)
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I agree with everyone. What was the question again ?
I agree with you Leigh, 8) 8)
Who"s Leigh??? ;)
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I agree with everyone. What was the question again ?
I agree with you Leigh, 8) 8)
Who"s Leigh??? ;)
Yeah and where"s our advent calendar :P
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I agreed with ya..
sometimes Carl....
But I DO agree with him. Whats wrong with that?
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Nice one bri !
And leight where is the advent calendar xxx
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Hey, Leigh, on a completely different subject, where"s our Advent calendar?
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Hey, Leigh, on a completely different subject, where"s our Advent calendar?
;D and don"t think you can slack off when it comes to doing a 2011 review either :P
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The seats are UKIPT seats , and if the winner of individual standings is a player of the winning team then think only fair if it goes to next highest in the individual standings . And i not saying that cos i up there i have said that all season (and am pretty sure i will be overtaken on last game ). It would be unfair imo if the winning team gets all 4 seats.
Scouse... Is there anything else that you predicted for this year...?
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Whilst I will be very grateful for any free seat I receive I think this should get sorted before the league starts in future to avoid 6 page threads like this one that turn into a witchhunt!!!!
I tend to agree with Brian but that is just my opinion.
I accept the last season(s) seats were part of good sponsorship deals (888 just poor) and circumstances change this really should have been agreed some time ago.
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I tend to agree with Brian but that is just my opinion.
Contradiction, surely?
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Whilst I will be very grateful for any free seat I receive I think this should get sorted before the league starts in future to avoid 6 page threads like this one that turn into a witchhunt!!!!
I tend to agree with Brian but that is just my opinion.
I accept the last season(s) seats were part of good sponsorship deals (888 just poor) and circumstances change this really should have been agreed some time ago.
think that"s a little harsh Craig - 888 haven"t changed anything.... they committed to seats valued circa £500..... and as far as I"m aware, that hasn"t changed. The fact is that the assumption was made that the seats would be UKIPT, but then Pokerstars changed their buy in to £770, taking themselves out of range. APAT will look after you.
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Whilst I will be very grateful for any free seat I receive I think this should get sorted before the league starts in future to avoid 6 page threads like this one that turn into a witchhunt!!!!
I tend to agree with Brian but that is just my opinion.
I accept the last season(s) seats were part of good sponsorship deals (888 just poor) and circumstances change this really should have been agreed some time ago.
think that"s a little harsh Craig - 888 haven"t changed anything.... they committed to seats valued circa £500..... and as far as I"m aware, that hasn"t changed. The fact is that the assumption was made that the seats would be UKIPT, but then Pokerstars changed their buy in to £770, taking themselves out of range. APAT will look after you.
Not about 888 and the prize I just mean 888 in general, numerous crashes, not being able to chat to other tables the list goes on.
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I think this should get sorted before the league starts in future to avoid 6 page threads like this one that turn into a witchhunt!!!!
Thats one way to describe it ok but I wouldn"t consider it a fair reflection of how the thread developed. Tbh I genuinely suspect that a large majority of the community have shown respectful restraint.
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I tend to agree with Brian but that is just my opinion.
Contradiction, surely?
No, I am grateful regardless what I am given but I can see where Brian is coming from, just seems very unusual to change the prize etc once the league is over. (I accept the price has gone up on UKIPT)
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This does make me laugh.
I think that best thing here is for APAT to honour the original prize for a £500 UKIPT seat only. (I think those were the words I used).
When the lucky winners can find a £500 UKIPT seat only, then APAT can buy them in.
Seems fair to me. ;D
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This does make me laugh.
I think that best thing here is for APAT to honour the original prize for a £500 UKIPT seat only. (I think those were the words I used).
When the lucky winners can find a £500 UKIPT seat only, then APAT can buy them in.
Seems fair to me. ;D
I don"t think anybody is saying it HAS to be that seat but an alternative on a like for like basis....
Either way like I said will be grateful whatever the seat even if it was a £10 freezeout with a £1000 guaranteed prize pool haha ;D
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It is the nearest like For like alternative within the money available
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I tend to agree with Brian but that is just my opinion.
Contradiction, surely?
No, I am grateful regardless what I am given but I can see where Brian is coming from, just seems very unusual to change the prize etc once the league is over. (I accept the price has gone up on UKIPT)
I meant if you agree with someone, it"s not just your opinion - it"s his as well.
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It is the nearest like For like alternative within the money available
That is great then :)
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I tend to agree with Brian but that is just my opinion.
Contradiction, surely?
No, I am grateful regardless what I am given but I can see where Brian is coming from, just seems very unusual to change the prize etc once the league is over. (I accept the price has gone up on UKIPT)
I meant if you agree with someone, it"s not just your opinion - it"s his as well.
That"s just your opinion.
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Thanks to APAT for the added value ;) what is our div2 value seats been changed to? ;D
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Any news?
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Sorry, thought this had been sorted. Brian is across all of the details. The winners of the league will receive Genting Stoke seats, which runs in August I believe.
The winners in division 1 receive passports to the 2012 WCOAP which will cover the main event and 2 side events.
Well done again to you all on a great season.
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Sorry, thought this had been sorted. Brian is across all of the details. The winners of the league will receive Genting Stoke seats, which runs in August I believe.
The winners in division 1 receive passports to the 2012 WCOAP which will cover the main event and 2 side events.
Well done again to you all on a great season.
Assuming this is division 2 ?
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Yep, my bad.
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Yep, my bad.
Thnaks Des will post on the Glasgow FB page as well so the guys find out
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Sorry, thought this had been sorted. Brian is across all of the details. The winners of the league will receive Genting Stoke seats, which runs in August I believe.
The winners in division 1 receive passports to the 2012 WCOAP which will cover the main event and 2 side events.
Well done again to you all on a great season.
Thanks guys, my first year playing with APAT and has been fun, great value added seats also! Will defo be back next season.
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cheers des... hoping it doesnt clash with UKIPT. APAT FTW