Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Poker Forum => Strategy => Topic started by: Jon MW on January 07, 2008, 20:09:16 PM
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First hand of a freeroll
Everybody has 1500 chips, blinds 10,20, and you know nothing about anyone.
MP limps, SB completes and in the big blind you check with jd ks
The pot is 60
The flop is 8d jh js
SB checks
What is your next course of action?
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gotta get some value in the pot.... bet 40. Also, strong bet might actually disguise the strength of your hand (if that makes sense).
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Freeroll you say? Shove, and watch them call.
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Firstly its a freeroll, how come only 3 people are in the pot?
Id bet about half the pot and hope either both call or raise, by betting im hoping to disguise the strength of my hand.
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First hand of a freeroll
Everybody has 1500 chips, blinds 10,20, and you know nothing about anyone.
MP limps, SB completes and in the big blind you check with jd ks
The pot is 60
The flop is 8d jh js
SB checks
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I would have thought 30 or 40.
Less would be just too little and more might actually scare them off.
I would also be tempted to check and hope somebody tried to steal it, or paired an ace and tried to take the pot.
But...
The bet was actually 20.
MP called
SB folded
Turn:
8d jh js th
Pot: 100
With the SB folding you"re first to act, now what do you do?
Could you put the MP on a range of hands, or could they be betting with anything because you bet so little?
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Im shoving now in a freeroll, u might probably get called as well with a open ended straight i recon..
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He has qh 9h. The kh arrives on the river, gives you the full house and him the straight flush.
Next.
;D
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Its a freeroll, if you check and he shoves are you going to fold?
I shove and sign up for the next one.
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Freeroll for a GUKPT seat - does that make a difference with how keen anyone is to shove?
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Freeroll for a GUKPT seat - does that make a difference with how keen anyone is to shove?
Nope. Shove.
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Freeroll you say? Shove, and watch them call.
In fact watch a few of them call .... including the guy with jc 8h :"(
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Let"s go back to the beginning.
MP limps, so what range do you put him on small PP, suited connectors, two picture cards, its a freeroll so really any two cards are possible. Its a GUKPT freeroll you say so is the play a lot different in this to a usual freeroll (not played one).
There are 3 hands beating you at the mo. J8, J10 & Q9 if you over bet the pot say 200 and he shoves I think you can put it down, I could but I"m a rock. If you bet the pot or less and he"s on a draw I think he will call, if he has the nuts he will call, leaving you with the same problem on the river, but with a bigger pot. I think the over pot bet gives you the info needed.
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First hand of a freeroll
Everybody has 1500 chips, blinds 10,20, and you know nothing about anyone.
MP limps, SB completes and in the big blind you check with jd ks
The pot is 60
The flop is 8d jh js
SB checks
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The bet was actually 20.
MP called
SB folded
Turn:
8d jh js th
Pot: 100
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The bet was 20 again - MP calls.
River:
8d jh js th 9c
Pot: 140
BB: bets 100
MP:raises to 220
Call, Raise or Fold?
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fold now
one of the fish has caugt a str8 or maybe a fh
even if you call the BB may reraise and where would you be then?
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Jon, is this limit? What"s with the bet amounts?
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fold now
one of the fish has caugt a str8 or maybe a fh
even if you call the BB may reraise and where would you be then?
It won"t make a difference, but if you read the post, it"s the BB whose cards you are playing.
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Jon, is this limit? What"s with the bet amounts?
It was the Inside Poker GUKPT NLHE Freeroll
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There is now 240 chips in the pot and the MP reraises you to 220 (now 660 in pot with 220 to call).....
Sorry but worth a call with the trips I wouldn"t reraise here but I do want to make sure he has the straight and isn"t trying to "float bluff" me.
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I think you can make an argument for any of the 3 options.
That"s why I tried to avoid including anything leading to what I thought, because I really want to know what the general opinion would be.
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Sorry to be a pedantic tosser but u haven"t flopped a set
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Sorry to be a pedantic tosser but u haven"t flopped a set
I"ve been waiting for a post like this. wd george
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Sorry to be a pedantic tosser but u haven"t flopped a set
I"ve been waiting for a post like this. wd george
So have I ;)
I don"t care is the answer.
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Sorry to be a pedantic tosser but u haven"t flopped a set
I"ve been waiting for a post like this. wd george
So have I ;)
I don"t care is the answer.
Sorry for the blunt msg- had been drinking ;)
If I flop trips in a free roll I would lead with a hefty bet waiting for the re raise
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First hand of a freeroll
Everybody has 1500 chips, blinds 10,20, and you know nothing about anyone.
MP limps, SB completes and in the big blind you check with jd ks
The pot is 60
The flop is 8d jh js
SB checks
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The bet was actually 20.
MP called
SB folded
Turn:
8d jh js th
Pot: 100
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The bet was 20 again - MP calls.
River:
8d jh js th 9c
Pot: 140
BB: bets 100
MP:raises to 220
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Anyway, he called and I won with a Queen high straight.
My first instinct was to post the hand and do a good bit of mocking about how he"d thrown away a pot by trying to slow play - and doing it badly.
But, I definitely didn"t put him on trips - so if a queen had come up, or if I was the type to bluff, he could have won a few chips from me. So I thought I"d throw it open to the floor to see what the opinion was of how others would have played it.
As far as I can tell the general consensus seems to be: it"s a freeroll - get all your chips in the middle whilst it"s a mistake for the other player to call. In a normal tournament I would assume, still fast play it, but a little bit more caution if the player and/or the texture of the board warrant it?
More generally I think "3 of a kinds" of any flavour should be an interesting area for analysis because they are strong enough to consider slow playing them, but there are still an awful lot of hands they are beaten by.
If anybody agrees with me, feel free to start a new thread or post in this one another example we can analyse.