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Poker Forum => Online Archive => Online Poker => National Online League => Topic started by: Buffenberger on February 16, 2012, 02:50:17 AM
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hi there , im not very good at negotiating my way around this site but I cant see the structure for the upcoming online league to be held on pokertstars.i just hope it will lend itself to some decent poker play and will involve enough chips and decent blind levels so as to be a non punty game in which over a ten week period good play will out.thanks for any replies in advance and apologies if the structure is already here.regards.
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have found structure 5000 chips 15 min blinds 15 games.awesome.
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there shouldnt be any arguments from anyone in this. Much better structure than in the past.
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I don"t like it! heehee just kidding, love the structure. Allows for plenty of play
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I don"t like it! heehee just kidding, love the structure. Allows for plenty of play
Allows plenty of time for play unless you have to got to work at 6 in the morning.
Luckily i don"t.
IMO I think that some thought to changing the start earlier and reducing the starting stack to 3000 would be a good thing.
How many will want to start a game? When with over 200 runners you could be looking at a 2:00 finish.
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I don"t like it! heehee just kidding, love the structure. Allows for plenty of play
Allows plenty of time for play unless you have to got to work at 6 in the morning.
Luckily i don"t.
IMO I think that some thought to changing the start earlier and reducing the starting stack to 3000 would be a good thing.
How many will want to start a game? When with over 200 runners you could be looking at a 2:00 finish.
Plenty i hope ;) more money for me :P
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I"ll play first week and see how it goes but fear it will probably finish pretty late if it is standard stars structure starting at 8 with 5k chips starting.
Finishing at 2am Sunday morning when up early for work is why I rarely play at all on Sundays anymore.
Maybe with late Reg for an hour, consideration should be given to an earlier start?
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I love deep slow structures, so this is great.
Some games will go on to 2am+ which is not great if you have work the following day. However most of us will be done by midnight which isn"t too bad.
Have to say that an 8pm start is a bit late for a Sunday. Given the structure and an hour late reg, no reason why these should not kick off at 7 instead. Even the majors on stars kick off earlier than 8.
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I love deep slow structures, so this is great.
Some games will go on to 2am+ which is not great if you have work the following day. However most of us will be done by midnight which isn"t too bad.
Have to say that an 8pm start is a bit late for a Sunday. Given the structure and an hour late reg, no reason why these should not kick off at 7 instead. Even the majors on stars kick off earlier than 8.
that"s pretty much what I was thinking
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I love deep slow structures, so this is great.
Some games will go on to 2am+ which is not great if you have work the following day. However most of us will be done by midnight which isn"t too bad.
Have to say that an 8pm start is a bit late for a Sunday. Given the structure and an hour late reg, no reason why these should not kick off at 7 instead. Even the majors on stars kick off earlier than 8.
that"s pretty much what I was thinking
+1 to this as well. Cant think of any reason why a 7pm start on a Sunday would cause problems. Should also lead to more people railing the FT as well.
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Didn"t want to post on here for fear of being seen to be negative to what is undoubtedly a great structure for a great league, and huge for a low buy in event..... however, having to get up at 6am on Mondays is why I don"t play any big Sunday tourneys any more, and if this one is gonna run til 2am+, I may have to count myself out (sadly).
Agree with other posts - 8pm is an unnecessarily late start.... 7pm, or even earlier would help muchly.
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I posted on the other thread that a 200 runner tourney will take about 6 -6.5hrs, I have just had another look and see that stars have a diff structure for 15 min blinds and the APAT tourneys (with 200 runners) are probably going to take just over 7 hours ~ eg a 3am+ finish time.
For this reason I am in agreement with the majority above who want an earlier start, say 7pm with 1hr late reg (or even 6:30pm with a 120 min late reg?)
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I love the look of the structure,but finish time could be as late as 3am(depending on numbers) Starting at 6pm, for me, would be more sensible.
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Starting at 6 is too early. And no point in 120 min Late reg because it wont really make much difference to numbers. Password protected for the tourny remember so most people will have entered in on time anyway.
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Starting at 6 is too early.
for whom?
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Well, new return to APAT, didn"t really kick off with it, now it"s on stars, and i"ve met a few people, this year sounds good :)
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Starting at 6 is too early.
for whom?
Not me.
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Idk, i would of though 6pm was too early (if its gonna be 1 hr late reg then maybe 6 is ok) I didnt know that there was ever a problem with 8pm, which it has been for the last few seasons i think.
The ironic thing is that the OP set up this thread asking if there would be enough play for good poker, looks like most people are worried that its going to go on for too long.
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Start at 7 pm
1hr late reg!
Out by 8.30 pm
The usual for me lol
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I have put my name down to be one of the captains, the one drawback I considered was the time of the games finishing. I too get up at 6.00 am for work but as a captain I would be expected to stay with the game to the end or until the last Yorkshire man/women are out. This is something which will be impossible for me to do week in week out. A 7.00 start would help or a rethink on starting stack and clock.
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I have put my name down to be one of the captains, the one drawback I considered was the time of the games finishing. I too get up at 6.00 am for work but as a captain I would be expected to stay with the game to the end or until the last Yorkshire man/women are out. This is something which will be impossible for me to do week in week out. A 7.00 start would help or a rethink on starting stack and clock.
Wayne, you would be a good captain and the fact you are thinking about these things now proves it. You don"t have to rail to the end to be a good captain. It"s more about the support you give at other times, emails, recruitment, promotion of APAT, facebook pages and so on.
For what it"s worth 8pm is too late for me also. 6 or 7 would be fine.
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Idk, i would of though 6pm was too early (if its gonna be 1 hr late reg then maybe 6 is ok) I didnt know that there was ever a problem with 8pm, which it has been for the last few seasons i think.
The ironic thing is that the OP set up this thread asking if there would be enough play for good poker, looks like most people are worried that its going to go on for too long.
I don"t think anyone is worried about the tourney"s going on too long - more about the fact that the very late finish may alienate those people that have to get up early for work on a Monday morning, and we may see numbers drop off as a result (we definitely want to avoid that!!). Earlier start ftw, and it"s all good. 6pm with a late reg, and I suspect the tourney would be done by 1am - still late, but way better than 3am.
8pm worked well on 888 with the shallower quicker structure - we have a much deeper and better structure with Pokerstars - just need to make sure we use it to please as many people as possible therefore keeping the numbers as high as we can.
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I would say start at 6 o clock for this one especially if 1 hour late reg . 8 o clock is far to late. I could easily see 300 + runners for this and some people have to go to work on monday morning . The earlier it starts the more players it will suit i reckon .
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7 is too early for me, 6 is even worse, but if there is a one hour late reg and ive got the kids settled for the night then 7 is fine with the late reg. 6 is just a nightmare.
I think the same discussion came up last year about having an earlier start but 8pm remained the kickoff time and it worked, there were always plenty of players and usually it was 1am finish or thereabouts.
APAT always welcomes discussions tho on these things and will take everything that is said on board and make a decision that best reflects everyone.
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I think you should all stop moaning and thank Des for setting up a great tournament.
If it doesn"t suit you to play at 8pm then why should this be changed just to suit you? Rules are rules and it needs to be clear for everyone and consistent.
You are all just being negative and should accept what Des has decided.
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It"s a joke ffs.
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7 is too early for me, 6 is even worse, but if there is a one hour late reg and ive got the kids settled for the night then 7 is fine with the late reg. 6 is just a nightmare.
I think the same discussion came up last year about having an earlier start but 8pm remained the kickoff time and it worked, there were always plenty of players and usually it was 1am finish or thereabouts.
APAT always welcomes discussions tho on these things and will take everything that is said on board and make a decision that best reflects everyone.
There will be differences from last year
5k starting stack instead of 3k
15 minute levels instead of 12/13 minutes
Everyone in one league, so an increase in runner
However, it will be run on a stable pokerstars platform, so that should improve the speed a bit.
I"m sure Stars will be able to give a pretty accurate likely finishing time for whatever structure is agreed and if necessary that could be adjusted to meet a midnight or 1am finish.
Once they"ve adjusted for Andy Overton and the APAT nit factor, of course. ;D
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7pm with a 60 min late reg FTW!!! Can still see me using the new App on my IPad though whilst tucked up in bed if it does go into the wee hours ;D
Oh and I hope the observer chat works, so we can rail (p###) take our fellow team mates/opposition ;D
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I think you should all stop moaning and thank Des for setting up a great tournament.
If it doesn"t suit you to play at 8pm then why should this be changed just to suit you? Rules are rules and it needs to be clear for everyone and consistent.
You are all just being negative and should accept what Des has decided.
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It"s a joke ffs.
I laughed. I feel childish now. It was wrong of me to laugh. Sorry everyone. ;)
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7pm with a 60 min late reg FTW!!! Can still see me using the new App on my IPad though whilst tucked up in bed if it does go into the wee hours ;D
A beautiful thought for everyone to have on a Friday. ;D
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I think you should all stop moaning and thank Des for setting up a great tournament.
If it doesn"t suit you to play at 8pm then why should this be changed just to suit you? Rules are rules and it needs to be clear for everyone and consistent.
You are all just being negative and should accept what Des has decided.
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It"s a joke ffs.
Took me a while to get this but i got there 8)
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Yes but it was 2 divisions with one getting about 120 runners the other about 60. With an expected 250+ runners, more chips and longer clock.
The numbers will fall off as the league progresses, but with 150 runners it will still be after 1.00am finish
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Unfortunately can"t please everyone, so many play it, will just have to wait and see what is decided, me im easy whatever they decide and just play as and when I can.
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7 is too early for me, 6 is even worse, but if there is a one hour late reg and ive got the kids settled for the night then 7 is fine with the late reg. 6 is just a nightmare.
I think the same discussion came up last year about having an earlier start but 8pm remained the kickoff time and it worked, there were always plenty of players and usually it was 1am finish or thereabouts.
APAT always welcomes discussions tho on these things and will take everything that is said on board and make a decision that best reflects everyone.
There will be differences from last year
5k starting stack instead of 3k
15 minute levels instead of 12/13 minutes
Everyone in one league, so an increase in runner
However, it will be run on a stable pokerstars platform, so that should improve the speed a bit.
I"m sure Stars will be able to give a pretty accurate likely finishing time for whatever structure is agreed and if necessary that could be adjusted to meet a midnight or 1am finish.
Once they"ve adjusted for Andy Overton and the APAT nit factor, of course. ;D
thanks for the last sentence - sent me off in a choking fit!! :D
Another difference to last year - 888 has a pretty steep structure in places, where Pokerstars has many more intermediary levels and a very gradual structure.... in short, a Pokerstars tournament progresses much slower than an equivalent 888 tournament. I reckon that if run as advertised, we add at least two hours, perhaps more (which is a really really good thing imo - just need to balance the start/end times)
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7pm with a 60 min late reg FTW!!! Can still see me using the new App on my IPad though whilst tucked up in bed if it does go into the wee hours ;D
A beautiful thought for everyone to have on a Friday. ;D
I do like to please the masses Leigh.. Don"t tell fibs I"m sure you have sat playing poker in ya y- fronts/ buff!! ; :D :D
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I"m in favour of deeper stacks so the proposed structure looks great.
imho 7pm start is best....... but 8pm starts won"t stop me playing
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Looking forward to getting this started due to it being on Pokerstars. Guaranteeing a smother, better structure and more reliable software from previous seasons.
With regards to the starting time and structure i would prefer a 3k starting stack which will smooth over some of the timing issues and will little effect on the game play due to the Pokerstars structure.
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7pm with a 60 min late reg FTW!!! Can still see me using the new App on my IPad though whilst tucked up in bed if it does go into the wee hours ;D
A beautiful thought for everyone to have on a Friday. ;D
I do like to please the masses Leigh.. Don"t tell fibs I"m sure you have sat playing poker in ya y- fronts/ buff!! ; :D :D
The new Stars App is far too convenient isn"t it. Have been multi tabling STT Hyper Turbos in bed for the past few nights, and no, that is not an euphemism. ;D
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7pm with a 60 min late reg FTW!!! Can still see me using the new App on my IPad though whilst tucked up in bed if it does go into the wee hours ;D
A beautiful thought for everyone to have on a Friday. ;D
I do like to please the masses Leigh.. Don"t tell fibs I"m sure you have sat playing poker in ya y- fronts/ buff!! ; :D :D
The new Stars App is far too convenient isn"t it. Have been multi tabling STT Hyper Turbos in bed for the past few nights, and no, that is not an euphemism. ;D
:D
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7pm with a 60 min late reg FTW!!! Can still see me using the new App on my IPad though whilst tucked up in bed if it does go into the wee hours ;D
A beautiful thought for everyone to have on a Friday. ;D
I do like to please the masses Leigh.. Don"t tell fibs I"m sure you have sat playing poker in ya y- fronts/ buff!! ; :D :D
The new Stars App is far too convenient isn"t it. Have been multi tabling STT Hyper Turbos in bed for the past few nights, and no, that is not an euphemism. ;D
Yes far to convenient!! Emma now reckons her life has been ruined.. Personally I don"t see a problem ;D .. Let"s face it she has an EBay app fairs fair??
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There"s an eBay app :o ...lol truly I didnt know that off to get it pmsl
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There"s an eBay app :o ...lol truly I didnt know that off to get it pmsl
Phonecall to broker....
"Buy eBay shares, quickly"
"How many ?"
"as many as you can get your hands on, Mary"s about to download the eBay app, profits will rise, shareprice will rocket"
;D ;D ;D
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There"s an eBay app :o ...lol truly I didnt know that off to get it pmsl
Ohhhh poop send my apologies to Mr Mair... GG PayPal account !!
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Starting at 6 is too early.
for whom?
Not me.
+1
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I think you should all stop moaning and thank Des for setting up a great tournament.
If it doesn"t suit you to play at 8pm then why should this be changed just to suit you? Rules are rules and it needs to be clear for everyone and consistent.
You are all just being negative and should accept what Des has decided.
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It"s a joke ffs.
I don"t think any one was moaning. I thought that a forum was place to discuss things. To mention concerns etc.
Last season there were 2 leagues and they started with about 100 plus players and as the season went on the numbers did drop.
Now there is only 1 league and with each game having the potential number of runners at 160- 200 +.
If people cant play because they have to get up for work, this could affect the number of runners. Surely that is a concern that APAT must look at.
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There"s an eBay app :o ...lol truly I didnt know that off to get it pmsl
Phonecall to broker....
"Buy eBay shares, quickly"
"How many ?"
"as many as you can get your hands on, Mary"s about to download the eBay app, profits will rise, shareprice will rocket"
;D ;D ;D
There"s an eBay app :o ...lol truly I didnt know that off to get it pmsl
Ohhhh poop send my apologies to Mr Mair... GG PayPal account !!
:D
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I"d be happy to sacrifice sleep in return for the better structure - I just don"t think it"s really necessary to start it so late, especially with late reg option.
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6-7pm start time would suit me :)
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7pm with a 1 hour late reg is confirmed.
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I think you should all stop moaning and thank Des for setting up a great tournament.
If it doesn"t suit you to play at 8pm then why should this be changed just to suit you? Rules are rules and it needs to be clear for everyone and consistent.
You are all just being negative and should accept what Des has decided.
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It"s a joke ffs.
I don"t think any one was moaning. I thought that a forum was place to discuss things. To mention concerns etc.
Last season there were 2 leagues and they started with about 100 plus players and as the season went on the numbers did drop.
Now there is only 1 league and with each game having the potential number of runners at 160- 200 +.
If people cant play because they have to get up for work, this could affect the number of runners. Surely that is a concern that APAT must look at.
Mahound this post by me was a joke based on another thread.
Of course the forum is the place to discuss things, mention concerns etc. which I did on the other thread.
yes - APAT must look at it and they have.
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=10432.0
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7pm with a 1 hour late reg is confirmed.
You da man ty Des ;D
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7pm with a 1 hour late reg is confirmed.
You da man ty Des ;D
+1
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7pm with a 60 min late reg FTW!!! Can still see me using the new App on my IPad though whilst tucked up in bed if it does go into the wee hours ;D
A beautiful thought for everyone to have on a Friday. ;D
I do like to please the masses Leigh.. Don"t tell fibs I"m sure you have sat playing poker in ya y- fronts/ buff!! ; :D :D
Mmm - hadn"t really figured Leigh for a Y fronts man but now I am thinking about it ......
:o
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I think you should all stop moaning and thank Des for setting up a great tournament.
If it doesn"t suit you to play at 8pm then why should this be changed just to suit you? Rules are rules and it needs to be clear for everyone and consistent.
You are all just being negative and should accept what Des has decided.
^^^^^^^
It"s a joke ffs.
I don"t think any one was moaning. I thought that a forum was place to discuss things. To mention concerns etc.
Last season there were 2 leagues and they started with about 100 plus players and as the season went on the numbers did drop.
Now there is only 1 league and with each game having the potential number of runners at 160- 200 +.
If people cant play because they have to get up for work, this could affect the number of runners. Surely that is a concern that APAT must look at.
Mahound this post by me was a joke based on another thread.
Of course the forum is the place to discuss things, mention concerns etc. which I did on the other thread.
yes - APAT must look at it and they have.
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=10432.0
No Probs SirPercival. Must admit i haven"t seen the other post yet.
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7pm with a 1 hour late reg is confirmed.
Especially for the new Team European Region the starting time is important. Players cant play til 1-2 a.m. If they have to work next morning. 5K and 15min level with a huge number of player could be a problem. (timezone)
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7pm with a 1 hour late reg is confirmed.
Especially for the new Team European Region the starting time is important. Players cant play til 1-2 a.m. If they have to work next morning. 5K and 15min level with a huge number of player could be a problem. (timezone)
That is a very good point Achim. This will just need monitoring by Des and the team.
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God!! These Europeans none more than the scots ffs!! :P
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God!! These Europeans none more than the scots ffs!! :P
Or even "moan" ;)
FAIL
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God!! These Europeans none more than the scots ffs!! :P
Isn"t Europe just another region of Englandshire?
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No its just a region! ;)
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Every couple of weeks the 7pm start even with the late reg is no good for me but I will just have to cope with it...
Unless if I give prior notice and the late reg could be extended to two hours just for me..
Just a thought... I know you want to keep everybody happy..
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I also work shifts (mornings then afters) with a 6am start but hey, lets live with it along with the 7 or 8 pm start as i cant play any earlier as i have to take my son home at the weekend. If the tournies finish at 2am then so be it :)
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hi there , im not very good at negotiating my way around this site but I cant see the structure for the upcoming online league to be held on pokertstars.i just hope it will lend itself to some decent poker play and will involve enough chips and decent blind levels so as to be a non punty game in which over a ten week period good play will out.thanks for any replies in advance and apologies if the structure is already here.regards.
Where can I find the password to enter the league games on PS?
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link to password
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=10497.0