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Poker Forum => Online Archive => Online Poker => National Online Cup => Topic started by: Des on June 17, 2012, 23:42:33 PM
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Many congratulation to Scotland for their outstanding performance on winning the PokerStars.com National Online League, and to every region and player who participated, for supporting the League over the past 15 weeks. I hope you"ve had as much of a blast playing in the League as we"ve had organising it for you.
Details of the next National Online League will be announced in the next two or three weeks, in the interim, we"re busy planning a National Online Cup knockout competition.
The event will run as a team event with each region able to enter as many 4 person teams as you wish. Players can name their team whatever they want, as long as it"s connected with their original region, so you might have the Scottish Bravehearts, Scottish Ladies, East Scotland, etc etc.
We"ll get a more detailed information thread up on the forum during next week, but in the interim players can pool their friends together to form teams of four, or start advertising on the forum for others to join them in teams of four ahead of the National Online Cup.
The format will run as per the League. If we have 60 teams start the league, then the leading 32 teams after the first round will go through to the second round. The leading 16 teams will go forward and then the leading 8 will go to the quarter finals etc.
So whatever chance you felt you had in the National Online League, any team from any region can win the National Online Cup. The event will be very competitive, so I"d like to see a lot of players step forward and organise teams for this unique tournament.
Look out for full details later in the week.
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On the back of a very successful league season, this should be on icing on the cake.
Great idea- who doesn"t love a cup competiton
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in, good idea :)
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Deffo up for this - ITM SW ftw!
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Wheres the "Like" button hasnt Des installed it on the APAT site yet??..
fandango likes this :) :)
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Glad you"re liking the idea, I think it"s going to be a fantastically balanced competition which will no doubt throw up lots of shocks. Feel free to share and tweet....
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Like this idea.....any idea what site?....please say Stars or Genting
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I hope my Team Captain remembers me when it comes to the Team Selection! :P
I like.
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Me love you long time ;)
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is it only for players who have regd for the league that has just been played, or can we reg anyone?
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Great initiative, really looking forward to it.
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I hope my Team Captain remembers me when it comes to the Team Selection! :P
I like.
Who"s your team captain? More to the point...who are you???
Seriously though, sounds like a great idea Des, looking forward to it!
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Excellent idea!
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Just to clarify how this will work guys.
You can enter as many teams of 4 from the regions of the National League.
Just get together with some of your team mates, think up a relevant team name, and there you go, you can enter the National Online Cup.
If you want to use this as an opportunity to introduce new players to the APAT National League, then get them to sign up to the region and then they can play as part of a team in the cup competition.
The only condition is that all players in the teams of 4 must play for the same region in the National League and come up with a suitably relevant team name to their region. i.e. "The Wrexham Ladies", "The Luton Exiles", "The Black Country Rubdowns", "The Scottish Champions", "The North East Geordies"
We are currently finalising the structure, but would be interested in players views on one thing.
With a cup competition, half the teams go out each round until one is left and declared the winner.
There are two ways to "knock-out" teams each round, either :-
A ) The top 50% of teams go through, rinse and repeat.
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B ) Each team is drawn with another team, and the higher placed team of those two goes through, rinse and repeat.
Thoughts ?
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Option A for my simple mind please.
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Option A is best.
Will this be on Poker Stars again?
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i don"t think there are 4 players in my area, at least there haven"t been 4 in the last online league, (i am currently in munich/bavaria) so if i would like to do this, can i not join a team not in my region, should someone take me?
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i don"t think there are 4 players in my area, at least there haven"t been 4 in the last online league, (i am currently in munich/bavaria) so if i would like to do this, can i not join a team not in my region, should someone take me?
Your region would be the whole of the rest of Europe, I reckon you might be able to get a team together ;)
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Your region would be the whole of the rest of Europe, I reckon you might be able to get a team together ;)
Oh well, i will give it a miss than >:( >:( :( :(
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Your region would be the whole of the rest of Europe, I reckon you might be able to get a team together ;)
Oh well, i will give it a miss than >:( >:( :( :(
I"ve not been that close to the Online League this year, I take it that the Europe team have really struggled on numbers then ?
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I would go for option B - it means you can follow your 4 opposing players through the tournament.
Early rounds are likely to be ultra nitty - is there a way to incentivise attacking play - could points be awarded for number of kills.
I seem to recall that certain sites (perhaps all) had headhunter tournaments where the number of kills was recorded.
L
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Whatever option you choose.....
"West Midlands BCPC Champions"
BRIAN YATES (CAPT)
STEVE REDFERN
CLIVE PADDEN
TONY TRIPPIER
Are we entered now?
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B sounds better to me
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B sounds better to me
B
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prefer B here. Though it would be gutting to run brilliantly and get ko"d by a team that runs even better, whilst at the same time, a team that runs much worse can go through.
Still this seems better than the potential nit fest that option A offers
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option A seems more plausible....... but B seems more exciting, and would add a really weird dynamic within the MTT.
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B for me.
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If we went for option B, I wonder whether we could live stream the draw for each round.
Invite a couple of has been APAT champions along to draw the teams.
"Steve will draw the home teams, and Brian will draw the away teams."
"Make sure you give the balls a good mix up Bri."
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If we went for option B, I wonder whether we could live stream the draw for each round.
Invite a couple of has been APAT champions along to draw the teams.
"Steve will draw the home teams, and Brian will draw the away teams."
"Make sure you give the balls a good mix up Bri."
Going to be difficult to fix the draw if we go down that route Leigh.... ;)
I"m very much in the B camp on this.
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Option B for me! :)
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Option B sounds good.. Could add extra spark at the table if you get drawn versus a table with a couple of your opposition ;D.. Draw could always be recorded a couple of days or so before game then posted on YouTube with a link to be viewed..?
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If you want simple but effective I say A. But I really love the Idea of B, would add a beautiful little twist and make it a bit more exciting every round!! B final answer ;D
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Option B every time....and like Leighs idea too ;D
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As a really tight player, I would still prefer Option A as it suits my style better! ;D
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Draw could always be recorded a couple of days or so before game then posted on YouTube with a link to be viewed..?
Great idea ;) x
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When would this be starting?
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When would this be starting?
Dare I be the first to say??? "SOON"
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When would this be starting?
Need to confirm details with PokerStars, but certainly won"t be before Sunday 1st July
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Just thinking out loud for a moment regarding options A and B..... how about an option C....
Teams drawn against each other and run as a straight knockout, same as option B..... but rather than having a single MTT, what about having 8 handed STTs where each STT contains the 4 players from each team seated randomly. Now that could make for some interesting team play opportunities.....
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i don"t think there are 4 players in my area, at least there haven"t been 4 in the last online league, (i am currently in munich/bavaria) so if i would like to do this, can i not join a team not in my region, should someone take me?
Didnt you play for Notts before joining Europe? move back to the UK and join East Midlands lol, i would have ya! ;)
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Just thinking out loud for a moment regarding options A and B..... how about an option C....
Teams drawn against each other and run as a straight knockout, same as option B..... but rather than having a single MTT, what about having 8 handed STTs where each STT contains the 4 players from each team seated randomly. Now that could make for some interesting team play opportunities.....
Did consider that, but would most definitely be delegating the admin on that one. Trying to ensure the right players join the right tourney would be an absolute nightmare to manage, let alone setup in the lobby. ;)
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Just thinking out loud for a moment regarding options A and B..... how about an option C....
Teams drawn against each other and run as a straight knockout, same as option B..... but rather than having a single MTT, what about having 8 handed STTs where each STT contains the 4 players from each team seated randomly. Now that could make for some interesting team play opportunities.....
I had thought of something along the lines of:
Would it be possible to set this up as a "shootout" type comp with one round played each week.
Each player drawn on a table from which they earn points as per a STT.
Say 8 handed points 1-8
As the teams are only 4 strong the chances of being drawn with teammates at same table is small.
Points are tallied and top 50% teams advance to the next week, rinse and repeat
Hope this all makes sense. if it"s to be on Stars I"m sure they should be able to accomodate
would also like to see a plate comp for the teams losing out in first week to keep interest going?
Thoughts?
Geo
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Didnt you play for Notts before joining Europe? move back to the UK and join East Midlands lol, i would have ya! ;)
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awwwwwwwwwwww that"s very nice thank you :-*
Yes I played for Notts, before the rule came up that a player needs to play either where is born or where lives, and both is currently Germany.
I will finally move to the UK this year, but I think it is not east midlands, more likely essex and i do not know which area this is lol, I would be happy to play for east midlands though, i loved the notts team
just out of interest as we live in modern times :D could not the Internet count as region, for this 4 player team knockout cup? As this means I could play in any team of APAT members who are on my facebook friendlist :D
I would vote for Option A
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6th-9th July I"m at T In The Park and APAT Cork running.....assuming it won"t be that week then? ;)
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Just a couple of thoughts:
- Pref the games not at weekends as they would clash with various live games. I hear there are also some people who have what they call "family time" then.
- Ban anyone else who uses the phrase "rinse and repeat".
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I think that 4 per team is a bit shallow as not everyone can play every match, plus with the holiday season approaching, a team could loose 50 per cent of their team in any one week. Perhaps 6 per team with 4 to count?
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I-PHONES AND IPADS FOR THE WIN.
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Just to clarify how this will work guys.
You can enter as many teams of 4 from the regions of the National League.
Just get together with some of your team mates, think up a relevant team name, and there you go, you can enter the National Online Cup.
If you want to use this as an opportunity to introduce new players to the APAT National League, then get them to sign up to the region and then they can play as part of a team in the cup competition.
The only condition is that all players in the teams of 4 must play for the same region in the National League and come up with a suitably relevant team name to their region.
We are currently finalising the structure, but would be interested in players views on one thing.
With a cup competition, half the teams go out each round until one is left and declared the winner.
There are two ways to "knock-out" teams each round, either :-
A ) The top 50% of teams go through, rinse and repeat.
or
B ) Each team is drawn with another team, and the higher placed team of those two goes through, rinse and repeat.
Thoughts ?
Option A just ahead of option B for me.
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Option A.
That way you are playing everyone and not just 4 people.
Or am I being dumb and it"s basically the same?
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I like option A but I also like option B but which one is best :-\
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I like option A but I also like option B but which one is best :-\
hobnobs
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I like option A but I also like option B but which one is best :-\
hobnobs
Custard creams
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I prefer option B, more of a knockout comp then
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I like option A but I also like option B but which one is best :-\
hobnobs
Can I change my option B vote to this ^^^
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Option B ftw, stops nitty play....but i suppose Nits are gonna Nit no matter what?!
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Team ABE preference is for option A.
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Option B it has to be, "A" would be so sad to play.
Q1. Are these going to be on stars on a Sunday evening ?
Q2. Is it all 4 players score or best 3 or 2 scores etc?
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Option B it has to be, "A" would be so sad to play.
Q1. Are these going to be on stars on a Sunday evening ?
Q2. Is it all 4 players score or best 3 or 2 scores etc?
Interesting point, if the result of all 4 players counts, then play is still likely to be nitty. Best 3 finishes should open it up a bit.
And option B, by a million miles.
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Option B ftw, stops nitty play....but i suppose Nits are gonna Nit no matter what?!
I certainly intend to.
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Option B ftw, stops nitty play....but i suppose Nits are gonna Nit no matter what?!
I certainly intend to.
Rinse & repeat
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Option B for me , knock out play for the win ! Option A would just suit all nitty teams
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I"ve no strong feelings either way, but a marginal preference for option B on the basis that it gives a different perspective to the thing, which is surely what is wanted here.
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Whichever option you go for could you consider the following:
- A 4 from 6 option as Foggy mentioned earlier as teams may progress but find themselves unable to play the following week so 4 scoring from 6 would help in some way, either that or allow players to be subbed in the latter rounds (e.g. I can"t make R1 for an East Mids team but JB does and then it R2 it"s the other way round so I take his place??)
- Half of the players will be eliminated in week 1. Is there an opportunity for a plate competition?
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Des
Is there a deadline for team entries yet?
J
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Not yet Jo, we assessing the feedback and considering ways we can really open this competition up.
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Will they be some movement on this now that the Irish Championship is out of the way.
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Will they be some movement on this now that the Irish Championship is out of the way.
Yes, hopefully we"ll be making quite a bit announcement tonight and details of this event and others will follow on quite quickly from that.
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Will they be some movement on this now that the Irish Championship is out of the way.
Yes, hopefully we"ll be making quite a bit announcement tonight and details of this event and others will follow on quite quickly from that.
Sounds like it's going to be a busy time
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I"m looking forward to this one
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Me too, if we ever get there!
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Me too, if we ever get there!
At least you didn"t say soon. ;)
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any news?
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When is the draw for this Cup being made...?
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When is the draw for this Cup being made...?
Has anything been finalised yet regarding this?......dates, site(assuming poker.uk!!), structure etc etc.
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When is the draw for this Cup being made...?
Has anything been finalised yet regarding this?......dates, site(assuming poker.uk!!), structure etc etc.
Emails flying back and forth at the moment. Should have something up in a short while.
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FFS I"ll be in Sorrento ??? How does that leave our team????
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FFS I"ll be in Sorrento ??? How does that leave our team????
You unlucky, unlucky man.
I"ve just returned from Napoli. One day in Sorrento - absolutely HATED it!
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FFS I"ll be in Sorrento ??? How does that leave our team????
u can still use the internet in italy ;D :-[ ???
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Well I just can"t wait
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What time is the draw? Is it soooon is it live pre recorded, on veetle.. I like draws i do ;D
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FFS I"ll be in Sorrento ??? How does that leave our team????
You unlucky, unlucky man.
I"ve just returned from Napoli. One day in Sorrento - absolutely HATED it!
How? I thought it was lovely
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What time is the draw? Is it soooon is it live pre recorded, on veetle.. I like draws i do ;D
Hello. I am doing the draw now... Watch this space. It"ll be posted up soooon :)
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What time is the draw? Is it soooon is it live pre recorded, on veetle.. I like draws i do ;D
Hello. I am doing the draw now... Watch this space. It"ll be posted up soooon :)
oh i thought it is live draw? where can we watch it?
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What time is the draw? Is it soooon is it live pre recorded, on veetle.. I like draws i do ;D
Hello. I am doing the draw now... Watch this space. It"ll be posted up soooon :)
Hi Matt, was the draw done? .. Just wondering as do I need to contact my team mates to remind them about the start on Wendsday evening.. I see the closing date for team entries was last Saturday on OP.. Or was it lengthened to accommodate any "Fashionably late" entries :D
Cheers Carl
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Hi Carl, the draw is here: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=11671.0
I"ll be PMing the tourney passwords out on Wednesday (or if possible Tuesday evening).
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FFS I"ll be in Sorrento ??? How does that leave our team????
You unlucky, unlucky man.
I"ve just returned from Napoli. One day in Sorrento - absolutely HATED it!
How? I thought it was lovely
Went to Naples first - 3 lovely days, great food, great weather, great people, great fun.
Sorrento on the Saturday, walk out the train station and all I see are "ENGLAND", "FULL ENGLISH BREAKFAST" at all the nearest pubs/bars etc. Felt like I"d gone to Spain.
In summary, Sorrento is very English compared to Naples. And I hate English targeted resorts.
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FFS I"ll be in Sorrento ??? How does that leave our team????
You unlucky, unlucky man.
I"ve just returned from Napoli. One day in Sorrento - absolutely HATED it!
How? I thought it was lovely
Went to Naples first - 3 lovely days, great food, great weather, great people, great fun.
Sorrento on the Saturday, walk out the train station and all I see are "ENGLAND", "FULL ENGLISH BREAKFAST" at all the nearest pubs/bars etc. Felt like I"d gone to Spain.
In summary, Sorrento is very English compared to Naples. And I hate English targeted resorts.
I really didn"t get that feeling when I was there, maybe it has changed. There was one english bar I remember, avoided at all costs though.
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FFS I"ll be in Sorrento ??? How does that leave our team????
You unlucky, unlucky man.
I"ve just returned from Napoli. One day in Sorrento - absolutely HATED it!
How? I thought it was lovely
Went to Naples first - 3 lovely days, great food, great weather, great people, great fun.
Sorrento on the Saturday, walk out the train station and all I see are "ENGLAND", "FULL ENGLISH BREAKFAST" at all the nearest pubs/bars etc. Felt like I"d gone to Spain.
In summary, Sorrento is very English compared to Naples. And I hate English targeted resorts.
I really didn"t get that feeling when I was there, maybe it has changed. There was one english bar I remember, avoided at all costs though.
Didn"t see any of that either Adam, my experience was the opposite and found loads of great Italian restaurants and bars to spend my time in. Maybe just went in to the town a bit further as I found the area round the station a bit manic with too many shoppers