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Poker Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: mporter123 on August 29, 2012, 17:05:20 PM
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What on earth were they wearing! Is this a new thing? Comes across as tacky, seedy, and unprofessional imo.
Why don't they use the playing cards with the naked ladies on as well and stick a pole in the middle of the room for good measure. Do DTD really think players are more likely to play at their room if they can leer at young women while they play the game? Sad situation if that is true.
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I"d need pictures before I could comment
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Meh. Think its just Rob being a smart guy and getting the punters in. Obv not entirely fair, and was a bit creepy watching people leering all over them at times, but the majority seemed comfortable in them (having come from Hooters) and Im sure they got tips galore!
Was unfair that so many lost their jobs over not wearing them though, and shud be given a choice.
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ps...I liked them ;D
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The new uniforms were a hot topic of conversation over the weekend.
It MAY or may not be connected by when I dropped into Hooters Nottingham (purely in the interests of research you understand) there was a big poster in the window advertising their link up with Alea Nottingham for Poker nights (http://nottingham.aleacasinos.com/event-details/hooters-poker19).
I"m just sayin"!
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I"d need pictures before I could comment
Basically, the Hooters uniform in all black with DTD branding.
If you can"t picture that...then there is no hope for you as a hetero male.
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I"d need pictures before I could comment
Basically, the Hooters uniform in all black with DTD branding.
If you can"t picture that...then there is no hope for you as a hetero male.
I don"t want to use my imagination though, I just wanted some pics.
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Like any other middle aged pervert, I loved the new uniform style...... BUT I detested it in that environment. If Rob is trying to bring punters in, we have to question the type of punter he wants.... and he certainly isn"t doing anything toward growing the female player base.
I thought DTD was serious about poker - looks like we"ll be getting a lap dance on the final table rather than a free drink.
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looks like we"ll be getting a lap dance on the final table rather than a free drink.
(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRT4RnkV1QavFvikb0zeqhASGq5XmMWD5idB95EP6tGfhSD-c4qPQ)
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About 3 years ago, when The Phoenix was Duff"s, they once had a pole-dancing night. It took place in another room but the punters were few, so the management came up with the idea of having the cash tables taken into the other room.
That was one surreal night, check-folding while girls were pole-dancing a couple of feet away in bikini bottoms only. Apart from the pole thing, they also came round the table trying to inveigle guys for private dances and I can remember one or two of them lay on the poker table at some point. It wasn"t really a success as most of the players were more interested in the poker, so I felt a bit sorry for the dancers. Not something I"m likely to forget though.
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What on earth were they wearing! Is this a new thing? Comes across as tacky, seedy, and unprofessional imo.
Why don't they use the playing cards with the naked ladies on as well and stick a pole in the middle of the room for good measure. Do DTD really think players are more likely to play at their room if they can leer at young women while they play the game? Sad situation if that is true.
It"s one thing I"ve never understood about DTD tbh - why they feel the need to employ such tacky "advertising". They have what is pretty much unarguably the best cardroom in the country, and that and the tournaments and professional service they provide are plenty to get the punters in. I"m not sure all this other stuff actually helps, and I really think they underestimate their clientele. The current advertising banners on the blonde forum are an example of this. Also remember a promotion they did early doors where they offered a prize of a "bubble bath (from some hotties in bikinis) for the bubble boy" in some tournament or other. I dunno, I guess a lot of the guys like it, but I"d personally have thought the vast majority of the clientele would prefer something a bit more classy.
Was unfair that so many lost their jobs over not wearing them though, and shud be given a choice.
pretty shocking if true
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I like a scantily clad female like most blokes do, but it cheapened the place for me, and there wasn"t anything wrong with the other uniforms either.
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Apropos of nothing, we should bear in mind that DTD is not a profit making business at the moment.
Rob, by his own admission, puts £1m into DTD every year out of his own pocket.
Now there are arguments that he could save a few shekels here and there by not sticking in those guarantees but, for him, IIRC, they are DTD"s unique selling point.
If he wants to get a few more punters through the door by these means then I"m not going to complain although I do feel that the valets who weren"t given the option were particularly hard done by.
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Apropos of nothing, we should bear in mind that DTD is not a profit making business at the moment.
Rob, by his own admission, puts £1m into DTD every year out of his own pocket.
Now there are arguments that he could save a few shekels here and there by not sticking in those guarantees but, for him, IIRC, they are DTD"s unique selling point.
If he wants to get a few more punters through the door by these means then I"m not going to complain although I do feel that the valets who weren"t given the option were particularly hard done by.
TBH if he puts in a million pounds a year into it out of his own pocket then sorry he is an idiot. DTD is not a viable business and looks like it never will be if he keeps on bailing it out which means that one day DTD will go under because that is not sustainable and it is not building a sustainable business. And if that figure is correct I would tell him because DTD is great and he doesn"t need to do drastic things to keep it that way.
I told him to his face on Saturday night that I didn"t rate the new uniforms and that I much preferred a "classier" look.
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Apropos of nothing, we should bear in mind that DTD is not a profit making business at the moment.
Rob, by his own admission, puts £1m into DTD every year out of his own pocket.
Now there are arguments that he could save a few shekels here and there by not sticking in those guarantees but, for him, IIRC, they are DTD"s unique selling point.
If he wants to get a few more punters through the door by these means then I"m not going to complain although I do feel that the valets who weren"t given the option were particularly hard done by.
If he"s marketing around football grounds and nightclubs with this kind of material then that makes sense - if he"s just putting up the marketing in places where people are going to go because of the poker anyway then it"s going to be largely ineffective
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If he"s marketing around football grounds and nightclubs with this kind of material then that makes sense - if he"s just putting up the marketing in places where people are going to go because of the poker anyway then it"s going to be largely ineffective
or, arguably, may even alienate some customers.
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I thought DTD was profitable now since they brought the table games in, it"s bad news if this is not true. I thought I read that somewhere, I have been searching for the link but can"t find it. I doubt DTD will go anywhere in the near future, although the tables games may have a lot to do with that.
I thought Rob only put the money in for the first few years?
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I thought Rob only put the money in for the first few years?
I was sitting next to the man when he said it....I have no reason to doubt him.
I"m not saying that it costs him the whole £1m (there are tax write-offs etc) but you only have to do some basic maths about entries * vig vs dealer costs etc. so see that, at best, it"s breakeven.
As always, my opinions are my own...no matter how wrong they may be. :)
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I thought Rob only put the money in for the first few years?
I was sitting next to the man when he said it....I have no reason to doubt him.
I"m not saying that it costs him the whole £1m (there are tax write-offs etc) but you only have to do some basic maths about entries * vig vs dealer costs etc. so see that, at best, it"s breakeven.
As always, my opinions are my own...no matter how wrong they may be. :)
I"m sure you are right, just a bit surprised, I honestly thought it was profitable now. I know it was losing money for a while. A real shame if it is as you can only justify that sort of money for so long.
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The girls to me looked a bit tacky and the one thing that I think would entice a few more punters in would be to lower the price of the ale. £4.10 for a bottle of Bulmers was crazy. If he is trying to encourage people in to spend money as well as play cards then lower the price of the ale. People are more likely to come in an hour earlier than the start time and have two drinks rather than 20 mins before reg time and only have one drink..
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TBH don"t care what they wear (within reason) so long as they do actually get the job done - ordered a drink and it never came. Ordered it again and waited 45 mins before I got it. In the meantime 3 other equally irrate players asked the dealer to get us a valet 3 times.
Ended up going bar myself. Pretty poor imo >:(
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If "eye candy" did not work then the Vegas casinos waste billions every year - they constantly compete to have the most stand-out uniforms for their cocktail waitresses. I have to admit I have detoured to Vegas casinos after someone told me that the uniforms were worth a visit, and I am sure a lot of people will make a trip to DTD out of curiosity when they hear stories of eye-popping outfits.
The uniform is just detail though - it would be too much coincidence for that particular group to be the best they could find at carrying a tray of drinks!
Awful that they let people go though - I heard that a lot from the dealers, and they were not at all happy. He is bound to suffer some backlash from customers and other staff, and I can"t understand how he can get away with it without lawsuits.
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TBH if he puts in a million pounds a year into it out of his own pocket then sorry he is an idiot. DTD is not a viable business and looks like it never will be if he keeps on bailing it out which means that one day DTD will go under because that is not sustainable and it is not building a sustainable business.
An idiot? I think he"s a poker philanthropist. He loves the game, and I"m guessing DTD is a blast for him to own.
I think people should be more appreciative of what he"s done, and continues to do, for poker imo. (not saying that you aren"t btw - just saying in general, credit where credits due etc..)
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TBH if he puts in a million pounds a year into it out of his own pocket then sorry he is an idiot. DTD is not a viable business and looks like it never will be if he keeps on bailing it out which means that one day DTD will go under because that is not sustainable and it is not building a sustainable business.
An idiot? I think he"s a poker philanthropist. He loves the game, and I"m guessing DTD is a blast for him to own.
I think people should be more appreciative of what he"s done, and continues to do, for poker imo. (not saying that you aren"t btw - just saying in general, credit where credits due etc..)
I suppose I should expand further, I know he loves the game and I am sure he has a blast running DTD. But he and others have gone to a lot of effort to get it where it is but now the losses seem to be larger. I am also sure it is very tax efficient but then I don"t know much about that side of things.
When I say idiot, I mean idiot like Roman Abramovich is one. If he died tomorrow what would happen to Chelsea? Same for DTD... It"s all well and good being the best but losing significant amounts of money helps no one in the long term.
In fact i bet a lot of people almost expect an overlay now and you get people complaining when they try to meet it at the last minute by altering a few things... You get the "well if I knew they were going to do that I wouldn"t have played" brigade which is ridiculous, and just shows that people are greedy. Everytime they say there is a massive overlay I think how long until this goes under...
I very much appreciate what Rob has done for poker and if he chooses to use his money this way it"s his choice, I am just trying to think long term, DTD is a great product of his and others hard work and I love DTD and that is what suppose drives my desire to see it viable.
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I thought DTD was serious about poker - looks like we"ll be getting a lap dance on the final table rather than a free drink.
I vote for this :P
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I understood that DTD view overlays as part of their marketing spend and would rather see it end up in the players" pockets than in the bank of a poker magazine publisher.
Hopefully they stay inside the budget, but this weekend looks likely to be squeaky bum time.
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I"d have thought the number of beers APATers put away at the weekend might have eased a little financial pressure :)
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I must admit, I thought the girls looked amazing! ;D Although I did say at the weekend I preferred the black dress classy looking outfits. They were probably made to just make you forget how long they have taken with your drink when you see them come back to the table. :P
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think this thread is going off from what it was supposed to be about, so can we get it back on track and talk about the DTD Valets and if anyone has any pictures please can you post them up
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think this thread is going off from what it was supposed to be about, so can we get it back on track and talk about the DTD Valets and if anyone has any pictures please can you post them up
Is your memory that bad??
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think this thread is going off from what it was supposed to be about, so can we get it back on track and talk about the DTD Valets and if anyone has any pictures please can you post them up
The lovely Amber (someone else posted this on the Live Update thread).
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_Yj9UEu_A9Q/UDpZolrE-CI/AAAAAAAAxas/6FGxtNX4iUM/s512/IMG_1183.JPG)
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I did think the shout by the MC at about 6pm on Sunday was good... "A third shout out for a valet on table 47, I have been informed that people are dying at this table".... raised a few laughs..
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looks ok to me ;D
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yeah yeah I know it"s titillating to see pretty girls in skimpy costumes, but the previous uniform made the girls look classy as well as attractive. Am I the only one who finds the hotpants and tights look rather tacky?
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yeah yeah I know it"s titillating to see pretty girls in skimpy costumes, but the previous uniform made the girls look classy as well as attractive. Am I the only one who finds the hotpants and tights look rather tacky?
I prefer anticipation to laying it all out on the table (as it were)...but DAMN they looked good.
*Disclaimer...I ate in Hooters over that weekend and I don"t care who knows it.
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yeah yeah I know it"s titillating to see pretty girls in skimpy costumes, but the previous uniform made the girls look classy as well as attractive. Am I the only one who finds the hotpants and tights look rather tacky?
I prefer anticipation to laying it all out on the table (as it were)...but DAMN they looked good.
*Disclaimer...I ate in Hooters over that weekend and I don"t care who knows it.
I spent the ECOAP weekend at Leeds Festival and the valets at DTD wouldn"t have looked out of place there - they do look out of place in a Poker Room imho
I have never visited Hooters but I understand it"s a treat to get your hands on the ribs
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I have never visited Hooters but I understand it"s a treat to get your hands on the ribs
Nah, I went for the hot & spicy breast and I don"t care who I tell.
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yeah yeah I know it"s titillating to see pretty girls in skimpy costumes, but the previous uniform made the girls look classy as well as attractive. Am I the only one who finds the hotpants and tights look rather tacky?
Agreed...............................OFF with the pants and tights
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Rob Yongs post from the Blonde Poker £500 update thread.
Tightend has shown me this. Goodness me, I don"t know where some of you get your information from, so many rumours go around about DTD, which is really surprising because we are so open as an organisation.
Lets clear the Valet uniforms up;
1. These are exactly the same uniforms as we used for the CPP model shoot 6 months ago, with the intention of using the same uniforms for the Valets in the run up to the CPP, whether we keep them after that, who knows. Hospitality staff within DTD has known about these new uniforms for 6 months, we just didn"t get round to ordering them till a few weeks ago, was meant to be much sooner.
2. Zero Valets have left due to the new uniform. Fact.
3. All Valets that are in the uniform were recruited to wear this uniform and have been shown it and tried it on before accepting the job (since it"s been planned for 6 months), anyone with over 6 months service has been given the choice to wear it, noone has been forced, goodness me.
4. We have also increased the pay for Valets by 30% for promoting the brand with the uniform.
5. The uniform is exactly the same as Hooters but black, its way less revealing that 99% of the uniforms in Vegas, but if you don"t like Hooters uniforms, I guess you wont like these
6. Feedback so far on Valets uniforms to me personally is 80% 20% in favour, I have asked 100+ customers over last few days, although I admit, some of the 20% feel very strongly against them, that"s life, cant keep everyone happy all of the time
I am really sorry for not putting out a Official Statement on this subject earlier, wrists slapped :)
Roberto
P.S. 910 :( :( :(
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It is what it is. I heard the rumours at the weekend like everyone else. Fact that most of the staff are new there. Everytime i go there its new staff, and ive been there 4-5 times last couple of months, not that im complaining at all BTW, but it doesnt seem a good place to work, and most workers dont ever seem happy when ive ever been there.
What does PS. 910 mean? Anyone know?
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Needed 1k runners for the GnT, got 910.
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Needed 1k runners for the GnT, got 910.
Well didnt really as wasnt there £60 juice from each player too!!
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think this thread is going off from what it was supposed to be about, so can we get it back on track and talk about the DTD Valets and if anyone has any pictures please can you post them up
The lovely Amber (someone else posted this on the Live Update thread).
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_Yj9UEu_A9Q/UDpZolrE-CI/AAAAAAAAxas/6FGxtNX4iUM/s512/IMG_1183.JPG)
bloody massive fan.
this is all.
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Oh. Pretty close then, because a few days ago it was heading for a Massive overlay, so they got pretty close then in the end. They were never gone make it in these hard times. Guess there not that many people who can flick in £560 at this minute.
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Nothing wrong with going a la Vegas with the valets outfits, but I thought the tight hot pant things didn"t do any of them any favours. I don"t remember the old uniforms (I"m not local to DTD, sadly) but I bet the skirts looked better even though they were probably less revealing.
Having said all that, I wasn"t complaining at the time. Funny that.