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Poker Forum => Online Archive => Online Poker => APAT Online => Topic started by: shug on September 15, 2012, 22:42:30 PM
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I hate this site
Have been playing it for about a month, there are so many people hitting hands that it rewards the fish. I don`t know how the hands are programmed but it appears it is set up to get every one throwing their chips in. for example all in with KK called by 3 people cards go over and show JJ AQ and A4. A hits on the flop, J hits on the turn and A4 gets their flush on the river.
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yep sounds like conclusive proof to me
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There are some things about it that I don"t like:
- The button isn"t very obvious. Several times I have been looking for the button during a hand and couldn"t tell which seat it was at first.
- It isn"t very obvious whose turn it is, especially when someone takes a long time and the outer circle changes from coloured to grey.
-When you look at the previous hand, it comes up in a giant window that obscures the tables. Caused me to time-out fold once but it is a pain apart from that.
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I hate the fact that I can"t keep multiple table lobbies open at same time.
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And breathe Shug - wait until Saturday for the big wobble ;D
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I went out of the Irish Online Championship tonight with AK v AJ.
The flop came A high, all the chips went in for a huge pot (would have put me about 3rd in chips with 30 odd players left) and a J came on the turn!
At this point I was so disgusted that I...........................
................. took a deep breath, typed "gg" and "gl guys" in the chat box!
Online poker must be rigged.... Hold on! I"ve also lost this way in live games.... Live poker is rigged too, obviously!
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I hate this site
Have been playing it for about a month, there are so many people hitting hands that it rewards the fish. I don`t know how the hands are programmed but it appears it is set up to get every one throwing their chips in. for example all in with KK called by 3 people cards go over and show JJ AQ and A4. A hits on the flop, J hits on the turn and A4 gets their flush on the river.
Pointless "Internet poker is rigged" post.
If it rewards the fish, why are they 2/3/4k in the red and why are the same players making finals and showing big profits?
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Apologies if anyone felt the tourneys were running slow last night with a lot of time lags.
I was busy fixing the decks for all of the tables. We have looked into one of these fandangled Random Number Generator systems to randomly deal the cards in a completely random manner, but to be honest, it"s not as much fun for us.
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On a serious note, every site gets their fair share of "its a fix" posts and discussion, and we"ll be no different. Some sites you seem to win on, others you don"t. If you recorded every hand and looked at the statistics, you"d find that the cards will fall in a similar fashion on all of the sites.
But, that won"t stop people from discussing it, and we certainly won"t stop such discussion.
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I just find these threads disrespectful (though I"m sure none is intended) to the game I love.
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Apologies if anyone felt the tourneys were running slow last night with a lot of time lags.
I was busy fixing the decks for all of the tables. We have looked into one of these fandangled Random Number Generator systems to randomly deal the cards in a completely random manner, but to be honest, it"s not as much fun for us.
;D
On a serious note, every site gets their fair share of "its a fix" posts and discussion, and we"ll be no different. Some sites you seem to win on, others you don"t. If you recorded every hand and looked at the statistics, you"d find that the cards will fall in a similar fashion on all of the sites.
But, that won"t stop people from discussing it, and we certainly won"t stop such discussion.
This made me proper giggle ;D
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Also KK vs JJ vs a4vs aq happy days no!?
Only worried about 4 cards! Yes please.
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Is Shug also Herbihackitt?
Apologies if anyone felt the tourneys were running slow last night with a lot of time lags.
I was busy fixing the decks for all of the tables. We have looked into one of these fandangled Random Number Generator systems to randomly deal the cards in a completely random manner, but to be honest, it"s not as much fun for us.
;D
On a serious note, every site gets their fair share of "its a fix" posts and discussion, and we"ll be no different. Some sites you seem to win on, others you don"t. If you recorded every hand and looked at the statistics, you"d find that the cards will fall in a similar fashion on all of the sites.
But, that won"t stop people from discussing it, and we certainly won"t stop such discussion.
This made me proper giggle ;D
Me too. Very much.
Boss network has a lot of faults, and we should be debating those, not this.
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Completely agree Dave.
It"s also good that you refer to it as BOSS, because these faults are a network issue and nothing to do with APAT.
I always remember Matt recounting tales of BOSS meetings and trying to raise these issues on behalf of the players. It was a constant battle with a brick wall.
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poker is all about luck. the lucky ones win the unlucky ones don"t if your a unlucky player and don"t like the fact you keep getting unlucky give up or like me just enjoy having a laugh and the social aspect of the game.
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I HATE BEETROOT
It tastes like crap, and makes my pee a funny colour.
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i agree that being unlucky on the turn/river etc is very annoying and can lead to tilting, ranting, kicking, breaking etc however what did happen last night and also when playing in some of the sattelites is getting sat out very quickly for no apparent reason or disconnected which i think there should be accountability for.
eg in the sattelite i was heads up 5-1 chip lead, got frozen out and my opponent happily got bonus chips;
yesterday in main event same thing happened: raised pre, got called; checked flop intending to check raise; opponent bets as intended; cant play: been sat out by software, lose hand.
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I HATE BEETROOT
It tastes like crap, and makes my pee a funny colour.
Mmmm beetroot butty Yes
Yum yum lol
Also makes u Tongue red lol
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6 out of 7 dwarfs are not Happy ;D
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I HATE BEETROOT
It tastes like crap, and makes my pee a funny colour.
Mmmm beetroot butty Yes
Yum yum lol
Also makes u Tongue red lol
Your a sick man Gary BEETROOT is evil pure evil
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Completely agree Dave.
It"s also good that you refer to it as BOSS, because these faults are a network issue and nothing to do with APAT.
I always remember Matt recounting tales of BOSS meetings and trying to raise these issues on behalf of the players. It was a constant battle with a brick wall.
IMO it is something to do with APAT in that the powers that be chose BOSS in the first place, a network that many players have disliked for a long time. Your second point appears to back this up.
I know that you will always find players that dislike certain sites, but BOSS seems to get more "dislikers" than most.
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Leigh, APAT Poker is broken, the decks don"t work right. I was playing on it the other night and got allin and lost. I realise I am meant to lose on very rare occasions but it has happened twice now. I never get this issue on Pokerstars. Can you please get APAT Poker fixed, thanks.
David - I feel you are spending too much time going on about how it is not rigged/flawed etc, it"s clear you have something to hide. It"s really best we don"t get involved in such discussions as people will eventually work it all out and god knows where that could lead. They might make APAT/Pokerstars deal the cards fairly or something. I see no reason why I should have to play in such a game, I mean I would almost certainly lose.
Rob"s pointing out the same player"s win over and over again might not be the best tactic, It"s designed that way. Somebody will be going through hands if we are not careful and it will all become very obvious quite quickly. The people in the red are the players who the sites are rigged against ldo. I don"t actually spend any time worrying about them of course but best to GIQ.
I don"t like beetroot by the way.
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big shame, tried playing the sattelite tonight. got beaten by the poker room again. frozen out, software closing down etc. again had AA against cashman . got frozen out. cant be my connection as play on stars, pkr, wh no probs.
is this a temporary thing or are APAT online online tourneys gonna have an extra pot luck landmine element added to them?
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I really like beetroot and corned beef sandwiches...
My lips are now sealed on the topic of RNGs, but I shall continue to smile inwardly when people complain about how xyz site is unfair in some way
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Do Boss still operate that rule about only being able to join 4 Boss sites ?
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I HATE BEETROOT
It tastes like crap, and makes my pee a funny colour.
It made my piss multi coloured and made me scared.... Now that is what I call a Bad Beet...
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I really like beetroot and corned beef sandwiches...
My lips are now sealed on the topic of RNGs, but I shall continue to smile inwardly when people complain about how xyz site is unfair in some way
That"s one of the worst. I played on there last year. Whatever about the others, that xyz site is a stitch-up.
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I really like beetroot and corned beef sandwiches...
My lips are now sealed on the topic of RNGs, but I shall continue to smile inwardly when people complain about how xyz site is unfair in some way
very smart, however my complaint is about being timed out and not being able to play and not about what particular card falls on the flop, turn or river. i have been a supporter of APAT over the last few years and sung its praises to any one who listens. i have now moved to a new town and started palying in the local club where i try promote the live evnts which are fantastic however what can i say about the online events: great value, great fun, great structure but no guarantee you wont be timed out, or the software wont decide to update in the middle of your hand or maybe your table will shut down in the middle of the tournament. i realise these may seem trivial to some members of our community, however as i only play a few games every now and then, it is an annoying way to pass the time.
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I really like beetroot and corned beef sandwiches...
My lips are now sealed on the topic of RNGs, but I shall continue to smile inwardly when people complain about how xyz site is unfair in some way
very smart, however my complaint is about being timed out and not being able to play and not about what particular card falls on the flop, turn or river. i have been a supporter of APAT over the last few years and sung its praises to any one who listens. i have now moved to a new town and started palying in the local club where i try promote the live evnts which are fantastic however what can i say about the online events: great value, great fun, great structure but no guarantee you wont be timed out, or the software wont decide to update in the middle of your hand or maybe your table will shut down in the middle of the tournament. i realise these may seem trivial to some members of our community, however as i only play a few games every now and then, it is an annoying way to pass the time.
Hell - I had no intention of being smart at your expense jayteejack. Your complaints about the software are totally valid and worthy of a seperate thread to this one which started here...
I hate this site
Have been playing it for about a month, there are so many people hitting hands that it rewards the fish. I don`t know how the hands are programmed but it appears it is set up to get every one throwing their chips in. for example all in with KK called by 3 people cards go over and show JJ AQ and A4. A hits on the flop, J hits on the turn and A4 gets their flush on the river.
As a regular on the DTD branded version I"m well aware of how bad the software is, and will only play it for satellites and Grands Prix entries until the technical and desing issues are resolved.
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Have learned my lesson, will confine my rants to verbal ones, and I also now know that beetroot is the devil`s food.
BUT.......... why do so many hands hit. Is it just because so many people fish that you get to see all 5 cards and therefore you see cards that wouldn`t normally see.
I also hate the fact that I can`t see more than one lobby
oops sorry this was meant to be a verbal rant
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Have learned my lesson, will confine my rants to verbal ones, and I also now know that beetroot is the devil`s food.
BUT.......... why do so many hands hit. Is it just because so many people fish that you get to see all 5 cards and therefore you see cards that wouldn`t normally see.
I also hate the fact that I can`t see more than one lobby
oops sorry this was meant to be a verbal rant
Now, that, I completely agree with. Very frustrating.
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Have learned my lesson, will confine my rants to verbal ones, and I also now know that beetroot is the devil`s food.
BUT.......... why do so many hands hit. Is it just because so many people fish that you get to see all 5 cards and therefore you see cards that wouldn`t normally see.
I also hate the fact that I can`t see more than one lobby
oops sorry this was meant to be a verbal rant
Now, that, I completely agree with. Very frustrating.
FWIW, Leigh knows my feelings about the poker.co.uk site...........but I will absolutely continue to use it, to support what the team are trying to build around the APAT name. They"ve done nothing but good for all beginners, recreational players and each of us trying to continue to learn and grow from the knowledge and experience of other members. I"m sure we will be duly rewarded with new initiatives, ideas and AV as Des & the guys build this even more.
Let"s all get in amongst it and contribute our bit as well 8)
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I went on a date once.. and arranged a second date. She invited me to hers for a meal. All excited I turned up. She had made chicken and beetroot salad. We didn"t have a third date. True story.
With regards the poker site. To be fair I like it. It works. It gives me cards. It tells me how I won / lost at Omaha H/L. I can chat crap all night in the chatbox. I haven"t been banned yet. Its happy days. I don"t like beetroot though x
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It tells me how I won / lost at Omaha H/L.
Closely followed by "wtf, did I win then?" coming up in the chat box. Or "how did i lose that with trip kings". :D
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I clicked the auto-rebuy box the other night, lost all my chips and was given a top-up. So far, nothing unusual.
After the next hand, I had lost 10 or 20 and was down to 1480 or 1490. The auto-rebuy kicked in and immediately topped me up again. You could rebuy if you had less than 1500 but the auto-rebuy also activates at that level rather than zero.
A very clever way to increase the rebuys.
[By "very clever" I mean "sneaky"].
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I clicked the auto-rebuy box the other night, lost all my chips and was given a top-up. So far, nothing unusual.
After the next hand, I had lost 10 or 20 and was down to 1480 or 1490. The auto-rebuy kicked in and immediately topped me up again. You could rebuy if you had less than 1500 but the auto-rebuy also activates at that level rather than zero.
A very clever way to increase the rebuys.
[By "very clever" I mean "sneaky"].
This is correct (in that it"s the way it"s supposed to happen; not that it"s "sneaky").
Following the last rebuy event we ran where you had to get to zero chips before you could rebuy, so many players complained ("why can"t you rebuy at or below starting stack?") that the decision was made to change it. This was posted on the rebuy threads at the time, and 100% of players agreed it would be a better way of running it.
However, now we"ve done it, it looks like we"re going to get complaints (even from some of the same group of people as before!) saying "Why isn"t the rebuy set for when you get to zero chips...".
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i see matt is reading this thread- excellent. my software keeps on updating even if i"m in the middle of a hand. last night i bet pot on the turn and then the software decided to update closing the table etc so i couldnt play the rest of the hand. happened twice. is this normal?
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Having the option to rebuy at starting stack or lower is not the same as the auto-rebuy triggering at starting stack. I"ve can"t recall ever seeing that before.
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i see matt is reading this thread- excellent. my software keeps on updating even if i"m in the middle of a hand. last night i bet pot on the turn and then the software decided to update closing the table etc so i couldnt play the rest of the hand. happened twice. is this normal?
This happened to me at the weekend too ???
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Having the option to rebuy at starting stack or lower is not the same as the auto-rebuy triggering at starting stack. I"ve can"t recall ever seeing that before.
If you have the "auto rebuy" option ticked, it will action a rebuy whenever you would normally have the option to rebuy.
e.g. if the rebuy rule is set that you need to be at zero chips, then as soon as you hit zero chips it will auto-rebuy. Likewise, if it"s set to "starting stack" then you will auto-rebuy as soon as you have starting stack or less. (This will be 2nd hand if you tick the boxes right at the start).
This is the way Boss has always done it. I guess other sites may do it differently?
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Thread has completely derailed imo.
Everybody going on about rebuys and boxes popping up. This thread was about beetroot.
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I also dislike celeriac but if it was a toss up between the two I still believe BEETROOT to be the bigger of both evils..
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I love beetroot, quite keen on Fennel too!
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i see matt is reading this thread- excellent. my software keeps on updating even if i"m in the middle of a hand. last night i bet pot on the turn and then the software decided to update closing the table etc so i couldnt play the rest of the hand. happened twice. is this normal?
Hi there, yes this is normal.
If you lose connection to the software, first it will try and reconnect you (for 30+ seconds or so). If that fails, it will shut down the software and restart it. When the software launches it automatically checks for updates (it isn"t actually doing any updates, just checking for them).
How are you connected to the internet? Is it wifi, and set to channel 1? Do you ever use programs like msn, where friends tell you you are constantly signing in and out? This is a good sign of a dodgy connection.
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How are you connected to the internet? Is it wifi, and set to channel 1?
You"ve mentioned this before, do you have an idiot"s guide to finding out this information and altering it?
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How are you connected to the internet? Is it wifi, and set to channel 1?
You"ve mentioned this before, do you have an idiot"s guide to finding out this information and altering it?
Are you on wifi? Who is your ISP?
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How are you connected to the internet? Is it wifi, and set to channel 1?
You"ve mentioned this before, do you have an idiot"s guide to finding out this information and altering it?
Are you on wifi? Who is your ISP?
I get wifi through (the) Sky
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they have been FO"d - although your post now seems out of context ;D
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There"s no need to be rude Ian.
Matt is only trying to help people out with connection issues. ;)
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Has the Ian "you wont like me when I"m angry" switch been flicked again? ;) x
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Has the Ian "you wont like me when I"m angry" switch been flicked again? ;) x
Earlier spammer m8 >:( , I"ve been off work for last 2 weeks, not at all well :"( , just as well Ger said I couldn"t come coz "I don"t like you" :( ....sigh.
BTW have you made room for my new position yet m8, all I need is some new gun oil and a rag and pull-through and we"re cooking with gas Phil 8)
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Has the Ian "you wont like me when I"m angry" switch been flicked again? ;) x
Earlier spammer m8 >:( , I"ve been off work for last 2 weeks, not at all well :"( , just as well Ger said I couldn"t come coz "I don"t like you" :( ....sigh.
BTW have you made room for my new position yet m8, all I need is some new gun oil and a rag and pull-through and we"re cooking with gas Phil 8)
Ian you know I"m willing to try any new positions with you :-*
Hope you"re ok though mate, and feeling better, will ring you in a bit x
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I hate this site
Have been playing it for about a month, there are so many people hitting hands that it rewards the fish. I don`t know how the hands are programmed but it appears it is set up to get every one throwing their chips in. for example all in with KK called by 3 people cards go over and show JJ AQ and A4. A hits on the flop, J hits on the turn and A4 gets their flush on the river.
Hi guys
Don"t really go for this kind of stuff, but I have to say that after playing the site all week and never once making the cash in any tourney, maybe the site is programmed against me. ;)
Seriously though, I agree with whoever said that some sites are lucky for you and some aint. I"ll continue to play APAT tourneys on this site but nothing else. (once I cash, normal service will resume)
Scotland for League II
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There are some things about it that I don"t like:
- The button isn"t very obvious. Several times I have been looking for the button during a hand and couldn"t tell which seat it was at first.
- It isn"t very obvious whose turn it is, especially when someone takes a long time and the outer circle changes from coloured to grey.
-When you look at the previous hand, it comes up in a giant window that obscures the tables. Caused me to time-out fold once but it is a pain apart from that.
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There are some things about it that I don"t like:
- The button isn"t very obvious. Several times I have been looking for the button during a hand and couldn"t tell which seat it was at first.
- It isn"t very obvious whose turn it is, especially when someone takes a long time and the outer circle changes from coloured to grey.
-When you look at the previous hand, it comes up in a giant window that obscures the tables. Caused me to time-out fold once but it is a pain apart from that.
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And it"s a nightmare to multi-table (and I suck at multi-tabling already)
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Seriously need to sort the software out - If you are seat 1 you can"t actually see what cards you have properly.
And that"s after you get passed all the other issues minimising the rebuy frame (which appears regardless of format).
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Seriously need to sort the software out - If you are seat 1 you can"t actually see what cards you have properly.
And that"s after you get passed all the other issues minimising the rebuy frame (which appears regardless of format).
been covered numerous times. Minimise the frame of the rebuy menu then click and drag it somewhere where it is not in the way.
OR - click on the white seat and pick the seat of your choice.
Not the greatest feature, I know, but easily managed
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why does my screen jump to almost full screen every time I change table? It has messed me up a number of times as I play on two sites at the same time. It pisses me off that I have to adjust it every time
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why does my screen jump to almost full screen every time I change table? It has messed me up a number of times as I play on two sites at the same time. It pisses me off that I have to adjust it every time
Go to "settings" in the main lobby, and select "layout" > "none".
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why does my screen jump to almost full screen every time I change table? It has messed me up a number of times as I play on two sites at the same time. It pisses me off that I have to adjust it every time
Go to "settings" in the main lobby, and select "layout" > "none".
Thanks have changed it, will look forward to it working for me tonight.
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Playing a couple of tournaments tonight and when i get moved tables it jumps the tables around to different places on the screen ! Don"t remember it doing this before ?
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Seriously need to sort the software out - If you are seat 1 you can"t actually see what cards you have properly.
And that"s after you get passed all the other issues minimising the rebuy frame (which appears regardless of format).
been covered numerous times. Minimise the frame of the rebuy menu then click and drag it somewhere where it is not in the way.
OR - click on the white seat and pick the seat of your choice.
Not the greatest feature, I know, but easily managed
Cheers , didn"t realise that you could do that :-)
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Playing a couple of tournaments tonight and when i get moved tables it jumps the tables around to different places on the screen ! Don"t remember it doing this before ?
Try this:
Go to "settings" in the main lobby, and select "layout" > "none".
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Found the loyalty freeroll tonight and won a free seat into the 25k guaranteed, which unfortunately will be on Sunday. May be doubling up at Alea then? :D
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It seems (from a very small sample I admit) that registration opens only 24 hours before each tournament.
Is this standard as I don"t recall it on other sites?
Could it be open earlier?
Minor point I know but I like to get reg"d in advance.
EDIT: Like for example I"d like to register for Sunday"s ME now
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It seems (from a very small sample I admit) that registration opens only 24 hours before each tournament.
Is this standard as I don"t recall it on other sites?
Could it be open earlier?
Minor point I know but I like to get reg"d in advance.
We had to change to 1 day on request of the Boss admin team, due to the fact that if a tourney is already open for registration then minor edits couldn"t be made to it.
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It seems (from a very small sample I admit) that registration opens only 24 hours before each tournament.
We had to change to 1 day on request of the Boss admin team, due to the fact that if a tourney is already open for registration then minor edits couldn"t be made to it.
Thanks matt, if they are able to fix that going forward that would be a bonus.
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It seems (from a very small sample I admit) that registration opens only 24 hours before each tournament.
We had to change to 1 day on request of the Boss admin team, due to the fact that if a tourney is already open for registration then minor edits couldn"t be made to it.
Thanks matt, if they are able to fix that going forward that would be a bonus.
No, I mean Boss admin have asked that we keep registration times down to 24 hours (or thereabouts) before the event. It makes it much easier to make minor changes to tourneys (e.g. if a blind structure is set up incorrectly).
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Serious question.
Is it possible to request a block so I cant play cash anymore?
I have a post it on my PC saying DONT PLAY CASH!! but after a few shandies my eyesight gets a bit blurry and somehow I just dont see it :(
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Does anyone know if there is a problem with the site this morning?
When I started it up, it took a download update. When trying to login it said my password was incorrect....same password I use every day! Locked me out of my account saying too many attempts....then when I went to reset password, message saying username/e-mail address mismatch!
The support tab on the site is disabled and there seems to be only about 10% of the usual amount of players for this time of day....any ideas?
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There was scheduled maitenance until 9am. Hopefully you"ll be able to log in OK now.
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The folded cards are too small!!!! I really have to squint, okay maybe should get some reading glasses, but still they are very small!
Don"t like the drop down menus that cover the action that is happening, and not easy to tell whose turn it is as the timer indicators aren"t very clear.
This may have been pointed out before CBA"d to go thru the whole thread, but on line poker is defo rigged! And can I have the same blocker as suzanne!
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The folded cards are too small!!!! I really have to squint, okay maybe should get some reading glasses, but still they are very small!
You can alter the size of the screen to make it easier to read. Though, I find the default size is easier to read myself.
Don"t like the drop down menus that cover the action that is happening, and not easy to tell whose turn it is as the timer indicators aren"t very clear.[/QUOTE]
You can move the drop down menus out of the way.
I believe yesterday"s update may have made the timer clearer (it wasn"t always appearing before).
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The folded cards are too small!!!! I really have to squint, okay maybe should get some reading glasses, but still they are very small!
You can alter the size of the screen to make it easier to read. Though, I find the default size is easier to read myself.
Don"t like the drop down menus that cover the action that is happening, and not easy to tell whose turn it is as the timer indicators aren"t very clear.
You can move the drop down menus out of the way.
I believe yesterday"s update may have made the timer clearer (it wasn"t always appearing before).
Yep timer is far better thanks, will look at the other stuff tonight.