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Poker Forum => Online Archive => Online Poker => National Online League => Topic started by: suzanne on September 18, 2012, 00:24:36 AM
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Not sure why the other thread is closed (maybe getting a bit heated?) and cant find another thread so I would just like say well done to Apat for putting forward yet another excellent structure. They have listened to us all and have tweaked it just right i think.
There is something in there for everyone, team prizes, individual prizes and I really like the idea of putting top 3 teams through to the UK Team championship.
The change that I like the most is that top 3 (instead of 4) players are allocated team points. This will give the smaller teams a much better chance of staying in the game.
Well done guys x
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I think they have done pretty well. I think it is worth persevering with the current structure despite its drawbacks - one season probably isn"t enough to see if it settles and I don"t think there was an alternative that is clearly better. I have no doubt that the decisions were made calmly, and not influenced by people who bomb the forum 30 times in one day every six months on this issue and then make virtually no contribution to the forum or attend more than one live tournament for the rest of the year.
The changes reflect several of the suggestions raised in the other discussion thread by various people, such as the freeroll for a Genting seat for people who play 8 games. I like the changes, but I also like the way APAT has listened to the members and incorporated their suggestions.
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I think they have done pretty well. I think it is worth persevering with the current structure despite its drawbacks - one season probably isn"t enough to see if it settles and I don"t think there was an alternative that is clearly better. I have no doubt that the decisions were made calmly, and not influenced by people who bomb the forum 30 times in one day every six months on this issue and then make virtually no contribution to the forum or attend more than one live tournament for the rest of the year.
The changes reflect several of the suggestions raised in the other discussion thread by various people, such as the freeroll for a Genting seat for people who play 8 games. I like the changes, but I also like the way APAT has listened to the members and incorporated their suggestions.
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Thanks to APAT for setting this up, and for all the patience with all our wishes
As well a big thank you for the prizes, as they are a lot and real good ones :-*
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Sorry, I closed the other thread off as we"d gathered all the feedback we needed for the time being, and it was going round and round in circles a bit.
Appreciate the comments guys.
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Yup, great job, as usual.
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Yup, great job, as usual.
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Not sure why the other thread is closed (maybe getting a bit heated?) and cant find another thread so I would just like say well done to Apat for putting forward yet another excellent structure. They have listened to us all and have tweaked it just right i think.
There is something in there for everyone, team prizes, individual prizes and I really like the idea of putting top 3 teams through to the UK Team championship.
The change that I like the most is that top 3 (instead of 4) players are allocated team points. This will give the smaller teams a much better chance of staying in the game.
Well done guys x
^^^^definitely this, great job :)
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Thanks APAT excellent delivery as always, looking forward to getting back into the swing of the league once again on Sundays :)
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I think APAT have done as well as they can to satisfy everyone and keep everyone interested even if their team is potentially out of the running. I like the fact that it"s 10 games rather than the rather daunting 15 week schedule before and the buy-in will hopefully be affordable to everyone.
I"m presuming that if you are in the points but the 4th placed finisher for your region, then your points will still count towards the individual prizes but not for the team points. Going forward, it might add an interesting twist that they don"t count towards your individual tally either - that might create some interesting intra-team dynamics!!
A good effort - well done.
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I"m presuming that if you are in the points but the 4th placed finisher for your region, then your points will still count towards the individual prizes but not for the team points.
That"s a valid and important question, the answer to which needs to be confirmed please Leigh....
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I"m presuming that if you are in the points but the 4th placed finisher for your region, then your points will still count towards the individual prizes but not for the team points.
That"s a valid and important question, the answer to which needs to be confirmed please Leigh....
That was the case in the first league so would presume it's the same for this
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Spot on, and I have redone the original announcement based on a suggestion by Andy Duncan that hopefully clears it up for anyone reading it.
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I haven"t had any strong views in the run up to the 2nd online league, but I have had confidence that the Apat team would deliver.
This looks a great team event. Well done to all concerned.
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Does this mean if the individual winner is also part of the winning team he/she wins two Genting Seats? YES
Also, if you finish runner-up individually and part of the runner-up team you"ll have two WCOAP passports! Are you allowed to enter the main event twice? ::) NO, but we"d honour the 2nd seat either as a nominated name, or cash towards WCOAP expenses
Oh and thirdly............. Well done APAT on what looks like another fantastic effort in arranging an excellent event with awesome added value :P Thank You Muchly
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Is there to be any % given to the rest of the team if anybody cashes in the prize tournaments or is this just a bit messy? (has in the first league)
I know the prizes have been allocated, so this is a bit too late but instead of the % (if that"s the case) you could have a STT/MTT for all the rest of the team (that has not won a prize) for a smaller prize.
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Is there to be any % given to the rest of the team if anybody cashes in the prize tournaments or is this just a bit messy? (has in the first league)
I know the prizes have been allocated, so this is a bit too late but instead of the % (if that"s the case) you could have a STT/MTT for all the rest of the team (that has not won a prize) for a smaller prize.
Any splits are down to individual teams to agree.
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Just a question if I may.
What does everybody think of the stipulation that the top placed national player is automatically selected for the WCOAP team and also that the top 3 teas get places in the National team championship?
The first one is OK I suppose although I would prefer it was not there personally. Why do we have to mess about with the Team Championship though. It is one of APAT's best events and is never under-subscribed I don"t believe? Won"t this mean that other team potentially miss out.
Obviously, at the end of the day, the league is great overall but I don"t see what these two conditions add to it and believe they take something away from the actual events themselves.
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Just a question if I may.
What does everybody think of the stipulation that the top placed national player is automatically selected for the WCOAP team and also that the top 3 teas get places in the National team championship?
The first one is OK I suppose although I would prefer it was not there personally. Why do we have to mess about with the Team Championship though. It is one of APAT's best events and is never under-subscribed I don"t believe? Won"t this mean that other team potentially miss out.
Obviously, at the end of the day, the league is great overall but I don"t see what these two conditions add to it and believe they take something away from the actual events themselves.
The only negative I heard regarding the top individual players getting a squad place in their national team was the fact that this was a stipulation only in place for the Home Nations. Does that put them at a disadvantage, I don"t know. The guys that got to play for their country will probably think not, and they were all new faces to an APAT team event, who all held their own and picked up points for their country. International squads were extended to either 4 or 5 players, and again, the only downside I heard of was the fact that not everyone got to play the final MTT event. Something I am looking at for the WCOAP in March.
As for the top three teams getting an invite to play the UK Team Championship, yes, that event is likely to be oversubscribed, as it is every year. We"ve had two APAT teams entered in the past few events, this will likely be just one forum team this year. Luton is a great venue, as we"ll be able to hit a 200 capacity (25 teams of 8), so I hadn"t really considered an issue with these three invites taking up other teams spaces. After all, these three teams would hopefully be rammed with regular APAT players.
I think that this is a great incentive for teams playing in the Online League this time around, and a great way for a bunch of them to meet up in a live event, having played online together for a few months.
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Just a question if I may.
What does everybody think of the stipulation that the top placed national player is automatically selected for the WCOAP team and also that the top 3 teas get places in the National team championship?
The first one is OK I suppose although I would prefer it was not there personally. Why do we have to mess about with the Team Championship though. It is one of APAT's best events and is never under-subscribed I don"t believe? Won"t this mean that other team potentially miss out.
Obviously, at the end of the day, the league is great overall but I don"t see what these two conditions add to it and believe they take something away from the actual events themselves.
The only negative I heard regarding the top individual players getting a squad place in their national team was the fact that this was a stipulation only in place for the Home Nations. Does that put them at a disadvantage, I don"t know. The guys that got to play for their country will probably think not, and they were all new faces to an APAT team event, who all held their own and picked up points for their country. International squads were extended to either 4 or 5 players, and again, the only downside I heard of was the fact that not everyone got to play the final MTT event. Something I am looking at for the WCOAP in March.
As for the top three teams getting an invite to play the UK Team Championship, yes, that event is likely to be oversubscribed, as it is every year. We"ve had two APAT teams entered in the past few events, this will likely be just one forum team this year. Luton is a great venue, as we"ll be able to hit a 200 capacity (25 teams of 8), so I hadn"t really considered an issue with these three invites taking up other teams spaces. After all, these three teams would hopefully be rammed with regular APAT players.
I think that this is a great incentive for teams playing in the Online League this time around, and a great way for a bunch of them to meet up in a live event, having played online together for a few months.
I presume for the team thing that the top 8 players from the regional team would be the baseline for team selection, and that if any can"t make it, the invite would extend down the list.
It may actually create a little contention with some of the regular hardcore teams that will be submitting entries (NPF, LPM, BCPC, etc) in that some of their players may have to make a choice of which team to represent... should be interesting.
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I presume for the team thing that the top 8 players from the regional team would be the baseline for team selection, and that if any can"t make it, the invite would extend down the list.
We"re leaving it up to the captains to decide how they would want to select the team.
If I were a captain, I think I would probably state :-
The top 6 indiviudal points scorers + 2 Wildcards (Maybe randomly selected from any other players that play a minimum of 8 matchdays)
Also, I might insist on including myself in the team ;D
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Just a question if I may.
What does everybody think of the stipulation that the top placed national player is automatically selected for the WCOAP team and also that the top 3 teas get places in the National team championship?
The first one is OK I suppose although I would prefer it was not there personally. Why do we have to mess about with the Team Championship though. It is one of APAT's best events and is never under-subscribed I don"t believe? Won"t this mean that other team potentially miss out.
Obviously, at the end of the day, the league is great overall but I don"t see what these two conditions add to it and believe they take something away from the actual events themselves.
The only negative I heard regarding the top individual players getting a squad place in their national team was the fact that this was a stipulation only in place for the Home Nations. Does that put them at a disadvantage, I don"t know. The guys that got to play for their country will probably think not, and they were all new faces to an APAT team event, who all held their own and picked up points for their country. International squads were extended to either 4 or 5 players, and again, the only downside I heard of was the fact that not everyone got to play the final MTT event. Something I am looking at for the WCOAP in March.
As for the top three teams getting an invite to play the UK Team Championship, yes, that event is likely to be oversubscribed, as it is every year. We"ve had two APAT teams entered in the past few events, this will likely be just one forum team this year. Luton is a great venue, as we"ll be able to hit a 200 capacity (25 teams of 8), so I hadn"t really considered an issue with these three invites taking up other teams spaces. After all, these three teams would hopefully be rammed with regular APAT players.
I think that this is a great incentive for teams playing in the Online League this time around, and a great way for a bunch of them to meet up in a live event, having played online together for a few months.
Oops misread the announcement.
I for some reason read that as the top player would get a WCOAP team spot which in my opinion would not be right and too big of a reward for an online league imo. The Home Nations is totally fine I think though. I retract that part of the post.
EDIT: Which Home Nations? Doesn"t this years take place before the end of the league?
RE: the event at Luton, fair enough. I can see all of these point and as long as it does not effect the normal teams who are there every year I am sure it will be great. There is an appeal to "Team Wales" in that event I must admit :)
btw Steve - Really hope West Midlands come top three just cos it would be fun to see how you work that one out. Especially if it came down to Heads Up in Luton, Team West Midlands Vs BCPC for the win :D
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Is there to be any % given to the rest of the team if anybody cashes in the prize tournaments or is this just a bit messy? (has in the first league)
I know the prizes have been allocated, so this is a bit too late but instead of the % (if that"s the case) you could have a STT/MTT for all the rest of the team (that has not won a prize) for a smaller prize.
Any splits are down to individual teams to agree.
This is the only disappointing aspect of the set-up. Everything else being excellent.
It needn"t be an overhead to anybody in APAT if a mandatory split was stipulated based on points scored. E.g. 50% to the player and the other 50% to the league points scorers in relation to their contributing points for their team (excluding the player himself). APAT leaves it up to the team to sort out the splitting and paying. If the prize won is too small to divvy up then the 50% could be played for in an MTT on APAT for example.
I firmly believe that anybody who contributes even a single team point (which could be the difference between 1st and 2nd) should gain a slice of any win in a team related prize.
Just stipulate it and leave the rest up to the winning teams! Not too hard surely?
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Is there to be any % given to the rest of the team if anybody cashes in the prize tournaments or is this just a bit messy? (has in the first league)
I know the prizes have been allocated, so this is a bit too late but instead of the % (if that"s the case) you could have a STT/MTT for all the rest of the team (that has not won a prize) for a smaller prize.
Any splits are down to individual teams to agree.
This is the only disappointing aspect of the set-up. Everything else being excellent.
It needn"t be an overhead to anybody in APAT if a mandatory split was stipulated based on points scored. E.g. 50% to the player and the other 50% to the league points scorers in relation to their contributing points for their team (excluding the player himself). APAT leaves it up to the team to sort out the splitting and paying. If the prize won is too small to divvy up then the 50% could be played for in an MTT on APAT for example.
I firmly believe that anybody who contributes even a single team point (which could be the difference between 1st and 2nd) should gain a slice of any win in a team related prize.
Just stipulate it and leave the rest up to the winning teams! Not too hard surely?
Can anyone remind me what the stipulations were for the first league of this season please ?
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Can anyone remind me what the stipulations were for the first league of this season please ?
Ignore that. There is a stipulation in the main T"s & C"s. I"d moved them to the mods board as they need updating for the new league.
11 - Any player winning a seat at a live or online event through clauses 8, 9 & 10, shall agree to allocate 30% of any prize payout ("the team share") above £1,000 in that event, to qualifying team players from his region.
12 - To become a qualifying team player, players must have scored a minimum of 1 player point during the season.
13 - The team share shall be allocated in ratio to the number of player points that each qualifying team player has earned over the season.
I"m heading out for the evening, but will get it updated and reposted on the League thread.
Apologies for that, clearly a point overlooked by myself. ;D
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Just a question if I may.
What does everybody think of the stipulation that the top placed national player is automatically selected for the WCOAP team and also that the top 3 teas get places in the National team championship?
The first one is OK I suppose although I would prefer it was not there personally. Why do we have to mess about with the Team Championship though. It is one of APAT's best events and is never under-subscribed I don"t believe? Won"t this mean that other team potentially miss out.
Obviously, at the end of the day, the league is great overall but I don"t see what these two conditions add to it and believe they take something away from the actual events themselves.
The only negative I heard regarding the top individual players getting a squad place in their national team was the fact that this was a stipulation only in place for the Home Nations. Does that put them at a disadvantage, I don"t know. The guys that got to play for their country will probably think not, and they were all new faces to an APAT team event, who all held their own and picked up points for their country. International squads were extended to either 4 or 5 players, and again, the only downside I heard of was the fact that not everyone got to play the final MTT event. Something I am looking at for the WCOAP in March.
As for the top three teams getting an invite to play the UK Team Championship, yes, that event is likely to be oversubscribed, as it is every year. We"ve had two APAT teams entered in the past few events, this will likely be just one forum team this year. Luton is a great venue, as we"ll be able to hit a 200 capacity (25 teams of 8), so I hadn"t really considered an issue with these three invites taking up other teams spaces. After all, these three teams would hopefully be rammed with regular APAT players.
I think that this is a great incentive for teams playing in the Online League this time around, and a great way for a bunch of them to meet up in a live event, having played online together for a few months.
Do the National Online Cup Team Champions get invited to enter a team event in Luton ? :)
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Just a question if I may.
What does everybody think of the stipulation that the top placed national player is automatically selected for the WCOAP team and also that the top 3 teas get places in the National team championship?
The first one is OK I suppose although I would prefer it was not there personally. Why do we have to mess about with the Team Championship though. It is one of APAT's best events and is never under-subscribed I don"t believe? Won"t this mean that other team potentially miss out.
Obviously, at the end of the day, the league is great overall but I don"t see what these two conditions add to it and believe they take something away from the actual events themselves.
The only negative I heard regarding the top individual players getting a squad place in their national team was the fact that this was a stipulation only in place for the Home Nations. Does that put them at a disadvantage, I don"t know. The guys that got to play for their country will probably think not, and they were all new faces to an APAT team event, who all held their own and picked up points for their country. International squads were extended to either 4 or 5 players, and again, the only downside I heard of was the fact that not everyone got to play the final MTT event. Something I am looking at for the WCOAP in March.
As for the top three teams getting an invite to play the UK Team Championship, yes, that event is likely to be oversubscribed, as it is every year. We"ve had two APAT teams entered in the past few events, this will likely be just one forum team this year. Luton is a great venue, as we"ll be able to hit a 200 capacity (25 teams of 8), so I hadn"t really considered an issue with these three invites taking up other teams spaces. After all, these three teams would hopefully be rammed with regular APAT players.
I think that this is a great incentive for teams playing in the Online League this time around, and a great way for a bunch of them to meet up in a live event, having played online together for a few months.
Do the National Online Cup Team Champions get invited to enter a team event in Luton ? :)
Unfortunately not, although if people like this type of added value, we may look at other opportunities going forward.
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my thoughts on the top ranking players getting in the WCOAP team and it just being the home nation team is not the best when others teams dont have such stipulations on them. Would it not be better if the home nations cup was all picked from the top ranking players
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Is there going to be a London Team this Season, as there has been no activity on the London link.
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just noticed in the lobby 20.30 start ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :"( :-[ :(
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Leigh, just a question , in the last league we posted names alias etc on site , as now on different one will there be any problems with different aliases etc
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Leigh, just a question , in the last league we posted names alias etc on site , as now on different one will there be any problems with different aliases etc
Player Directory (http://www.apat.com/index.php/online-league/league-player-directory/)
We will be copying this into a forum thread, so it is sorted alpha and by region, but the totally live list is linked as above.
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just noticed in the lobby 20.30 start ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :"( :-[ :(
No worries, the network are just testing setup. It will be right before registration opens.
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Hi Leigh.
I"m such a ****. I downloaded the poker.co.uk software a few weeks back but I can"t remember my user name to be able to log in. I cannot get to the Online support without logging in!
Is there anyway i can contact them to ask what my user name is?
Thanks
Dave
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Hi Leigh.
I"m such a ****. I downloaded the poker.co.uk software a few weeks back but I can"t remember my user name to be able to log in. I cannot get to the Online support without logging in!
Is there anyway i can contact them to ask what my user name is?
Thanks
Dave
PM Sent
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PM Sent
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Thanks all sorted now.
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just noticed in the lobby 20.30 start ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :"( :-[ :(
No worries, the network are just testing setup. It will be right before registration opens.
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Hi Leigh.
I"m such a ****. I downloaded the poker.co.uk software a few weeks back but I can"t remember my user name to be able to log in. I cannot get to the Online support without logging in!
Is there anyway i can contact them to ask what my user name is?
Thanks
Dave
Lets hope your poker is better than your memory.... then again..... if you don`t play for Scotland, maybe not
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Leigh, just a question , in the last league we posted names alias etc on site , as now on different one will there be any problems with different aliases etc
Player Directory (http://www.apat.com/index.php/online-league/league-player-directory/)
We will be copying this into a forum thread, so it is sorted alpha and by region, but the totally live list is linked as above.
I have joined Poker.co.uk in order to play in matchday 6 for South East. I went to private tournements lots of apat listed there but no matchday. can you help explain how to register for Sunday 30th please.
andantemoto/pianissimo37
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multi tourney>all
sort by time - 30/09 19:00 APAT Nat League 1
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Leigh, just a question , in the last league we posted names alias etc on site , as now on different one will there be any problems with different aliases etc
Player Directory (http://www.apat.com/index.php/online-league/league-player-directory/)
We will be copying this into a forum thread, so it is sorted alpha and by region, but the totally live list is linked as above.
I have joined Poker.co.uk in order to play in matchday 6 for South East. I went to private tournements lots of apat listed there but no matchday. can you help explain how to register for Sunday 30th please.
andantemoto/pianissimo37
Marian, it takes three days after joining the poker-room before the APAT games appear on your lobby. Seems you"ve missed out this week but better luck for the next one.
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Leigh, just a question , in the last league we posted names alias etc on site , as now on different one will there be any problems with different aliases etc
Player Directory (http://www.apat.com/index.php/online-league/league-player-directory/)
We will be copying this into a forum thread, so it is sorted alpha and by region, but the totally live list is linked as above.
I have joined Poker.co.uk in order to play in matchday 6 for South East. I went to private tournements lots of apat listed there but no matchday. can you help explain how to register for Sunday 30th please.
andantemoto/pianissimo37
I joined the poker room last week luckily John, only hadn"t entered my player name or loaded cash. Anyway I eventually found the tournement. I shall be playing this evening. I do have some trouble with posting on this forum. An old lady"s excuse.
Marian, it takes three days after joining the poker-room before the APAT games appear on your lobby. Seems you"ve missed out this week but better luck for the next one.
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Leigh, just a question , in the last league we posted names alias etc on site , as now on different one will there be any problems with different aliases etc
Player Directory (http://www.apat.com/index.php/online-league/league-player-directory/)
We will be copying this into a forum thread, so it is sorted alpha and by region, but the totally live list is linked as above.
I have joined Poker.co.uk in order to play in matchday 6 for South East. I went to private tournements lots of apat listed there but no matchday. can you help explain how to register for Sunday 30th please.
andantemoto/pianissimo37
Marian, it takes three days after joining the poker-room before the APAT games appear on your lobby. Seems you"ve missed out this week but better luck for the next one.
I joined the poker room last week luckily John, only hadn"t entered my player name or loaded cash. Anyway I eventually found the tournement. I shall be playing this evening. I do have some trouble with posting on this forum. An old lady"s excuse.
See what I mean? I"ve fixed your post for you, Marian, so it makes sense to people.
Marian is one of the..........er, more senior players in APAT; probably the most senior player to have won an online league tournament. Don"t be fooled by her "old lady" routine - as well as her 1st place, she has had several other top-5 finishes and finished 10th overall in the National League individual rankings in Season 5.
This is her around the time of her win. Of course she was a bit younger then:
(http://livepubpokerleague.com/userpics/pic_397300.jpg)
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Hand for hand from 31 down to 10 is gonna be fun and very quick!!
correction 21 to 10
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Hand for hand from 31 down to 10 is gonna be fun and very quick!!
It"s H4H at 31, and then again at 21 until FT, but I take your point. No real need for it.
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This H4H all the way down to final table is just plain ridiculous, and totally unnecessary. zzzzzzzzz
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This H4H all the way down to final table is just plain ridiculous, and totally unnecessary. zzzzzzzzz
^^^^this^^^^^
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OTOH, it did give players time to keep up to date with the tremendously exciting conclusion to the Ryder Cup. ;D
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Just on another note, IMO it felt a bit counter productive to me at the FT, when a player no longer in the tournament commented " How is Grant getting away with this?" in the chat box, after I"d taken 3 pots uncontested to a raise. I know it"s just meant as a bit of craic between APAT regs, but It"s bad etiquette TBH so please keep any comments like this very general in future, therefore not highlighting any individual & eave that to the players at the table to figure out ::)
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Just on another note, IMO it felt a bit counter productive to me at the FT, when a player no longer in the tournament commented " How is Grant getting away with this?" in the chat box, after I"d taken 3 pots uncontested to a raise. I know it"s just meant as a bit of craic between APAT regs, but It"s bad etiquette TBH so please keep any comments like this very general in future, therefore not highlighting any individual & eave that to the players at the table to figure out ::)
Oh God, that was me as well. Sorry Grant, can"t promise anything on that.
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Just on another note, IMO it felt a bit counter productive to me at the FT, when a player no longer in the tournament commented " How is Grant getting away with this?" in the chat box, after I"d taken 3 pots uncontested to a raise. I know it"s just meant as a bit of craic between APAT regs, but It"s bad etiquette TBH so please keep any comments like this very general in future, therefore not highlighting any individual & eave that to the players at the table to figure out ::)
TBF Grant he was only stating the bleedin obvious! Hence why I was so shocked on the one occasion when I eventually shoved back that you had an A ;D
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Just on another note, IMO it felt a bit counter productive to me at the FT, when a player no longer in the tournament commented " How is Grant getting away with this?" in the chat box, after I"d taken 3 pots uncontested to a raise. I know it"s just meant as a bit of craic between APAT regs, but It"s bad etiquette TBH so please keep any comments like this very general in future, therefore not highlighting any individual & eave that to the players at the table to figure out ::)
TBF Grant he was only stating the bleedin obvious! Hence why I was so shocked on the one occasion when I eventually shoved back that you had an A ;D
Agreed Andy. Even though on those 3 particular occasions I had 10/10, AJ & KK there were obviously other occasions with open spots in position where I was raising fairly light when we were at the FT. My point is just that chat from observers should really just be kept fairly general and not directed at any individual. John, I know it"s just some general banter and winding-up between regulars but some of these guys at the FT weren"t regulars and I"d rather not give them any licence to target me in any way. Andy, your KJ played itself against me with the stack you had, no argument there whatsoever mate, nice flop for me, nice river for you 8)
GL in week 2, looking forward to it ;)
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I didn"t particularly appreciate the very un-APAT like chat box comments from one particular London player when I busted him. Having stuck his stack in on the flop as a ~15% underdog and lost, his tirade was just out of order and unnecessary.
Would love to come across one of these numpties at a live table and to see them shoot similar abuse. Never gonna happen though - they"re never that brave.
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I didn"t particularly appreciate the very un-APAT like chat box comments from one particular London player when I busted him. Having stuck his stack in on the flop as a ~15% underdog and lost, his tirade was just out of order and unnecessary.
Would love to come across one of these numpties at a live table and to see them shoot similar abuse. Never gonna happen though - they"re never that brave.
There was a lot of that on my first table, with full throttle swearing too. Doesn"t bother me at all, but interesting that this site seems to allow it.
While we"re discussing chat-box comments, could the Scottish team please learn to say something apart from "Do what you do" every time a Scottish player wins a pot on the final table? It was vaguely amusing the first two or three times, boring by the fifth or sixth time and very boring by the tenth time. You"re an articulate guy, Grant - could you teach your colleagues a few other cliches so they don"t have to rely on just the one?
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Just on another note, IMO it felt a bit counter productive to me at the FT, when a player no longer in the tournament commented " How is Grant getting away with this?" in the chat box, after I"d taken 3 pots uncontested to a raise. I know it"s just meant as a bit of craic between APAT regs, but It"s bad etiquette TBH so please keep any comments like this very general in future, therefore not highlighting any individual & eave that to the players at the table to figure out ::)
Oh God, that was me as well. Sorry Grant, can"t promise anything on that.
Naughty John, and if you show that horrible picture of me again------------------?
Did my best for SE but was card dead most of the time.
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I didn"t particularly appreciate the very un-APAT like chat box comments from one particular London player when I busted him. Having stuck his stack in on the flop as a ~15% underdog and lost, his tirade was just out of order and unnecessary.
Would love to come across one of these numpties at a live table and to see them shoot similar abuse. Never gonna happen though - they"re never that brave.
There was a lot of that on my first table, with full throttle swearing too. Doesn"t bother me at all, but interesting that this site seems to allow it.
While we"re discussing chat-box comments, could the Scottish team please learn to say something apart from "Do what you do" every time a Scottish player wins a pot on the final table? It was vaguely amusing the first two or three times, boring by the fifth or sixth time and very boring by the tenth time. You"re an articulate guy, Grant - could you teach your colleagues a few other cliches so they don"t have to rely on just the one?
That"s just an unfortunate bad Charlie Sheen style catch phrase now that"s stuck since the team event at DTD John , I"m sure some others are happier that this has replaced a few other choice cliches that were used in league 1 but directed at other teams" members ;) Let"s just keep them directing stuff at their own team mates for the time being at least ;D
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Just catching up on the above.
I agree the h4h is way too much on Boss. If Pokerstars can run a 10k player tourney, and only have h4h twice in that whole game (once on the money bubble, and again before FT) then why does Boss need to have 40 different occasions in a 200 player tourney? Total overkill. Will be something I bring up with them again.
As for the "full throttle swearing" that MintTrav mentions above, I thought it was almost impossible to swear on Boss? I"ve not seen a swear word in the chatbox that has made it past the filter for ages, though I guess you could use a creative way of spelling them? If someone complains (to support) about a particular player, that player"s chat-log is checked. If they were seen to be needlessly rude then they will be chat banned. The ban system works like this.
1st offence = 1 week ban.
2nd offence = 1 month ban.
3rd offence = permanent ban.
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I see that the player involved has deleted all his posts from the forum.
Good.
It looks like Yorkshire may have lost a player, but I don"t think Wayne will be too unhappy about it.
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I see that the player involved has deleted all his posts from the forum.
Good.
It looks like Yorkshire may have lost a player, but I don"t think Wayne will be too unhappy about it.
What have I missed? Have a Yorkshire player been stepping out of line? Who was it?
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I didn"t particularly appreciate the very un-APAT like chat box comments from one particular London player when I busted him. Having stuck his stack in on the flop as a ~15% underdog and lost, his tirade was just out of order and unnecessary.
Would love to come across one of these numpties at a live table and to see them shoot similar abuse. Never gonna happen though - they"re never that brave.
He was at it again last night, called someone a reetard :( I threatened to report him if he continued and Sef told him he was out of order and should chill out. He went out very soon after ;D
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I didn"t particularly appreciate the very un-APAT like chat box comments from one particular London player when I busted him. Having stuck his stack in on the flop as a ~15% underdog and lost, his tirade was just out of order and unnecessary.
Would love to come across one of these numpties at a live table and to see them shoot similar abuse. Never gonna happen though - they"re never that brave.
He was at it again last night, called someone a reetard :( I threatened to report him if he continued and Sef told him he was out of order and should chill out. He went out very soon after ;D
Only a retard? When I flopped a set against him and got him to stack off with AA, I was a (iirc) fkn donkey retard whore; with around 5 minutes of other various insults to follow... theDONKEY - appropriate name he has!
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I didn"t particularly appreciate the very un-APAT like chat box comments from one particular London player when I busted him. Having stuck his stack in on the flop as a ~15% underdog and lost, his tirade was just out of order and unnecessary.
Would love to come across one of these numpties at a live table and to see them shoot similar abuse. Never gonna happen though - they"re never that brave.
He was at it again last night, called someone a reetard :( I threatened to report him if he continued and Sef told him he was out of order and should chill out. He went out very soon after ;D
Only a retard? When I flopped a set against him and got him to stack off with AA, I was a (iirc) fkn donkey retard whore; with around 5 minutes of other various insults to follow... theDONKEY - appropriate name he has!
Yeah I saw that last week as well, you bumped him with AA v AK and then he went with the verbal ::) shame he"s not learned the APAT spirit, hopefully he will after a few warnings
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Yeah I saw that last week as well, you bumped him with AA v AK
lol you have a much better memory than me! :)
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Don"t really want to go into details but something on my table tonight has left a bad taste in my mouth. Not only against the APAT spirit but against the rules.
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since you have posted ,you will have to tell more
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since you have posted ,you will have to tell more
Declaring your hand before you act so that your team mates don"t call.
And that"s a generic "you/your", I"m not accusing Wayne of anything
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since you have posted ,you will have to tell more
Declaring your hand before you act so that your team mates don"t call.
And that"s a generic "you/your", I"m not accusing Wayne of anything
accusing me?
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since you have posted ,you will have to tell more
Declaring your hand before you act so that your team mates don"t call.
And that"s a generic "you/your", I"m not accusing Wayne of anything
accusing me?
NOT accusing you, I"ve thought of a better way of putting it:
People declaring their hand before they act so that their team mates don"t call.
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Congrats to Scotland and Tony for finishing top of the tables.
Well played all and look forward to seeing you all at he next one. :)
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Declaring your hand is cheating. End of story.
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Congratulations to the Champions from the Country that is Scotland on your repeat victory. The County that is Yorkshire fought hard for 2nd place and well done to the South West on taking 3rd place from the West Midlands at the death.
Proud to say Tony Trippier finished first individually and wins (another ;D ) GSOP seat.
I would also like to say a big Thank-You to all of the players who regularly rallied to play for the West Midlands in this League this year. We had a great turnout last night when 3rd place was a real longshot and that keeps the League fair to everyone who is trying to win something at the end. If you join a team, then play out the whole season and don"t drop out when you can"t win.
Hope all you APATers have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.......but beware......The BCPC are coming to get you in Luton in January !!
BOING BOING !!
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Nice post Bri :)
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Well done Scotland. Four on the final table last night said it all.
The Irish could do with a few more players - do none of you folk have Irish grannies or even the odd pint of Guinness? ;)
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Very well done to Scotland for winning the League, and Yorkshire and SW taking the other two spots..
Another success well done APAT very competitive from the start..
Congrats to Tony Trippier and his black currant for winning individual honours do a win at a Genting series now ;D
Steve for pushing Tony all the way aswell as Damien, made for an exciting finale..
Good luck to the three teams in Luton, look forward to locking horns across the felt..
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Congratulations to the Champions from the Country that is Scotland on your repeat victory. The County that is Yorkshire fought hard for 2nd place and well done to the South West on taking 3rd place from the West Midlands at the death.
BOING BOING !!
here we go again, It`s not fair because Scotland is a Country... from a population of around 5 million we managed to turn out a team capable of winning back to back titles, even with the rule change.....
Should the next league boundaries be defined by population to make it fairer!!!! or should other teams not go out and recruit players.
The present rise in Nationalism in Scotland is driven by the fact that we are treated as a region of England rather than as a country in its own right.
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Congratulations to the Champions from the Country that is Scotland on your repeat victory. The County that is Yorkshire fought hard for 2nd place and well done to the South West on taking 3rd place from the West Midlands at the death.
BOING BOING !!
here we go again, It`s not fair because Scotland is a Country... from a population of around 5 million we managed to turn out a team capable of winning back to back titles, even with the rule change.....
Should the next league boundaries be defined by population to make it fairer!!!! or should other teams not go out and recruit players.
The present rise in Nationalism in Scotland is driven by the fact that we are treated as a region of England rather than as a country in its own right.
Wow - that"s some serious "reading between the lines" there Shug.
And who"s treating Scotland as a region of England anyway? God forbid that should ever happen!! :D
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I seem to remember Walsall , then West mids winning it all the time so they changed and changed it untill they found a way to beat us. LET ENTER AN ENTIRE QUADRANT OF ENGLAND (SCOTLAND) ::)
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A simple well done to all those in the winning teams and all those that topped the individual table and all those that have supported the league this time, would most probably suffice.
I don"t really fancy a "who"s got the biggest team" debate at the moment. ;)
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A simple well done to all those in the winning teams and all those that topped the individual table and all those that have supported the league this time, would most probably suffice.
I don"t really fancy a "who"s got the biggest team" debate at the moment. ;)
Agree Well done all winning teams. London only has 5 people and I believe most weeks I was the only one playing. I know we had no chance, however, I like to support APAT and have fun playing. If no one wants to admit they live in London and we get no applicants next year, perhaps us Londoners could chose to play for their nearest County.
Happy Christmas Everyone xx
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here we go again, It`s not fair because Scotland is a Country... from a population of around 5 million we managed to turn out a team capable of winning back to back titles, even with the rule change.....
Should the next league boundaries be defined by population to make it fairer!!!! or should other teams not go out and recruit players.
The present rise in Nationalism in Scotland is driven by the fact that we are treated as a region of England rather than as a country in its own right.
Congratulations Scotland on the win.
Although I am not Scottish, I do feel an affinity for the country due to both my christian name and my favourite Leeds players in the 1970"s hailing from that nation.
It is therefore with a sad heart (and with tongue firmly in cheek) that I raise the subject of having fielded an unregistered player who asked at my table if there were any "Yorkies" in attendance !
Mind you, as I was not born in Yorkshire the county would have questioned my eligibility in less enlightened times not that long ago (ok, only in cricket) !
Duncan
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Congratulations to the Champions from the Country that is Scotland on your repeat victory. The County that is Yorkshire fought hard for 2nd place and well done to the South West on taking 3rd place from the West Midlands at the death.
BOING BOING !!
here we go again, It`s not fair because Scotland is a Country... from a population of around 5 million we managed to turn out a team capable of winning back to back titles, even with the rule change.....
Should the next league boundaries be defined by population to make it fairer!!!! or should other teams not go out and recruit players.
The present rise in Nationalism in Scotland is driven by the fact that we are treated as a region of England rather than as a country in its own right.
Wow - that"s some serious "reading between the lines" there Shug.
And who"s treating Scotland as a region of England anyway? God forbid that should ever happen!! :D
:D Leigh is right.... well done all
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Congratulations to Scotland, Yorkshire (yay!) and South West teams on a magnificent battle for the honours. And well done to the individual winners.
And a big thank you to those who kept lists and tables up to date.
People declaring their hand before they act so that their team mates don"t call.
Is this being dealt with - Presume it falls under Collusion (section 22 in the T&Cs)?
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A simple well done to all those in the winning teams and all those that topped the individual table and all those that have supported the league this time, would most probably suffice.
I don"t really fancy a "who"s got the biggest team" debate at the moment. ;)
I can fully understand that we may not have much appetite for regurgitating this debate, but......
After another run at the format, do we feel that team size impacts on the outcome of the league?
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A simple well done to all those in the winning teams and all those that topped the individual table and all those that have supported the league this time, would most probably suffice.
I don"t really fancy a "who"s got the biggest team" debate at the moment. ;)
I can fully understand that we may not have much appetite for regurgitating this debate, but......
After another run at the format, do we feel that team size impacts on the outcome of the league?
Scotland had one of the largest teams, and they won it...... BUT, Yorkshire and SouthWest had two of the smallest teams, and they ran it close for 2nd and 3rd.
In my opinion, the mix is probably about right at the moment.
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A simple well done to all those in the winning teams and all those that topped the individual table and all those that have supported the league this time, would most probably suffice.
I don"t really fancy a "who"s got the biggest team" debate at the moment. ;)
I can fully understand that we may not have much appetite for regurgitating this debate, but......
After another run at the format, do we feel that team size impacts on the outcome of the league?
Scotland had one of the largest teams, and they won it...... BUT, Yorkshire and SouthWest had two of the smallest teams, and they ran it close for 2nd and 3rd.
In my opinion, the mix is probably about right at the moment.
Not quite true Steve
Yorkshire team was not all that small really, we were getting between 12% and 16% of the field each week, I can give you the exact figure if you want.
Not as big as Scotland but not too far behind
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A simple well done to all those in the winning teams and all those that topped the individual table and all those that have supported the league this time, would most probably suffice.
I don"t really fancy a "who"s got the biggest team" debate at the moment. ;)
I can fully understand that we may not have much appetite for regurgitating this debate, but......
After another run at the format, do we feel that team size impacts on the outcome of the league?
Scotland had one of the largest teams, and they won it...... BUT, Yorkshire and SouthWest had two of the smallest teams, and they ran it close for 2nd and 3rd.
In my opinion, the mix is probably about right at the moment.
Not quite true Steve
Yorkshire team was not all that small really, we were getting between 12% and 16% of the field each week, I can give you the exact figure if you want.
Not as big as Scotland but not too far behind
I was looking at the registered players in the Player Directory thread.....
The fact that Yorks were getting such a large percentage of the field each week from such a comparatively small player registration is testament to the captain"s rallying.
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I see where you are coming from; we had a good % turn out regarding the amount of players registered
And as for the captain rallying, he did his best ;)
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A simple well done to all those in the winning teams and all those that topped the individual table and all those that have supported the league this time, would most probably suffice.
I don"t really fancy a "who"s got the biggest team" debate at the moment. ;)
I can fully understand that we may not have much appetite for regurgitating this debate, but......
After another run at the format, do we feel that team size impacts on the outcome of the league?
I"m not suggesting it shouldn"t be discussed, just would be nice for the winners to have a chance to bask in some glory for a while. ;D
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A simple well done to all those in the winning teams and all those that topped the individual table and all those that have supported the league this time, would most probably suffice.
I don"t really fancy a "who"s got the biggest team" debate at the moment. ;)
I can fully understand that we may not have much appetite for regurgitating this debate, but......
After another run at the format, do we feel that team size impacts on the outcome of the league?
I"m not suggesting it shouldn"t be discussed, just would be nice for the winners to have a chance to bask in some glory for a while. ;D
Fair point, as they should of course.
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I"m not suggesting it shouldn"t be discussed, just would be nice for the winners to have a chance to bask in some glory for a while. ;D
Basking sharks by any chance ? ;D ;D ;D
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I see where you are coming from; we had a good % turn out regarding the amount of players registered
And as for the captain rallying, he did his best ;)
Awesome job skip
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A simple well done to all those in the winning teams and all those that topped the individual table and all those that have supported the league this time, would most probably suffice.
I don"t really fancy a "who"s got the biggest team" debate at the moment. ;)
I can fully understand that we may not have much appetite for regurgitating this debate, but......
After another run at the format, do we feel that team size impacts on the outcome of the league?
I"m not suggesting it shouldn"t be discussed, just would be nice for the winners to have a chance to bask in some glory for a while. ;D
The number of players obviously has a positive impact on results, but won"t be a guarntee them winning. I"d like to highlight that there"s a higher population in West Yorkshire alone compared to Scotland. There"s a higher number of people in London than in Scotland etc etc. Our captains have done a tremendous job of recruiting players to the team and galvanising those who were already in the previous Glasgow/Edinburgh/Dundee teams.
That can only be praised and I for one would say the best way to address this is for each and every one of us to promote APAT even more. It"s incredible the number of good players in our team, who until about 18 months ago had never heard of APAT, despite playing in numerous tournaments at varous levels around the country. It"s an amazing community which we"ve all gained hugely from, so let"s get telling those at our tables, whether online or playing live. Let"s arrange more get togethers locally with team mates and new players, who in turn will also promote this great community. Let"s use local newspapers, websites, social media, casinos, pubs/clubs to promote promote promote.
Huge congrats to Wayne and Suzy on their runner-up spots, it was a fine competition all the way to the end and your smaller teams definitely done you proud. I"m sure their performance and results will only help to add to your numbers for season 7 8)
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well said Grant
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The number of players obviously has a positive impact on results, but won"t be a guarntee them winning. I"d like to highlight that there"s a higher population in West Yorkshire alone compared to Scotland. There"s a higher number of people in London than in Scotland etc etc. Our captains have done a tremendous job of recruiting players to the team and galvanising those who were already in the previous Glasgow/Edinburgh/Dundee teams.
That can only be praised and I for one would say the best way to address this is for each and every one of us to promote APAT even more. It"s incredible the number of good players in our team, who until about 18 months ago had never heard of APAT, despite playing in numerous tournaments at varous levels around the country. It"s an amazing community which we"ve all gained hugely from, so let"s get telling those at our tables, whether online or playing live. Let"s arrange more get togethers locally with team mates and new players, who in turn will also promote this great community. Let"s use local newspapers, websites, social media, casinos, pubs/clubs to promote promote promote.
Huge congrats to Wayne and Suzy on their runner-up spots, it was a fine competition all the way to the end and your smaller teams definitely done you proud. I"m sure their performance and results will only help to add to your numbers for season 7 8)
Nice post Grant.
I do feel I should clarify and apologise, if my post is in anyway taken as an attempt to taint an excellent performance and win for team Scotland, I assure you any hint of that is as a result of insensitivity on my part rather than a deliberate attempt to undermine your fine efforts on and off the tables.
I for one would say the best way to address this is for each and every one of us to promote APAT even more.
If this infers that the recruitment route is a level playing field, I totally disagree, that simply isn't accurate and population is not the only factor.
Is it possible to retain the recruitment aspect yet address the anomaly of inequitable team sizes? I think it is and this will benefit all participants. IMHO we should strive for a league format where smaller teams no longer have an excuse and the larger teams get untainted credit for their trojan efforts.
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No apology needed Brendan, the beauty of this forum is everyone"s valued opinion will be given consideration by Sir Des of all APAT & his trusty knights.
I said that a bigger team has no guarantee of victory and both leagues this season have had a tight run-in & final week finish, BUT I can fully understand the frustration of players from small teams, particularly if a poor start means a drop off in numbers over the weeks. It will certainly make scoring more difficult as the event progresses.
I"ve no idea if there"s ever going to be a completely level playing field with team members/scoring players ratio for the regional structure.
I do though like the idea of an additional larger version of the "Online Cup" type idea if it could be introduced. For me, this was too rigid for me to play in this season due to the small team size and being in Italy on holiday at the start (with non playing companions ::) )
No doubt Des, Leigh & Matt will be considering all options for season 7 and the online dilemmas facing all members. Let"s all make sure our voices are heard and our opinions are valid ;)