Delighted that there is Stud. Really happy about it. Please do it again and every time.
But please put on a proper tournament with a proper structure next time.
I was really looking forward to it, and we get given that.
What would you change with the structure John ?
Longer levels, more levels. I"m no expert on stud, so bow to others knowledge on this.
I"ve calmed down now. And I"ve changed my reply, due to Matt's comment. I had assumed that it had been set like that deliberately, cos it was so different to how a Stud tournament normally runs. If that was not the case, why change it so radically from the usual structure?
The biggest difference was that bring-in was 50% of completion. Normally it is 30%. This made a huge difference. Normally a player with a high card showing can take a pot down by completing as the bringer-in has to call 70, with 30 already in. When it is 50 to call, with 50 already in, they are priced in to call. I can"t say for certain that this was a unique innovation, but I have never seen it before.
On subsequent streets, the fixed-limit bets were huge compared to the stacks. From quite early on, getting seriously involved in a pot meant committing your life. There was no room to play through the streets. Raise-folding meant serious damage to your stack, cos the stacks were so shallow.
I see the players still in have more reasonable stacks at this stage, so they may think differently about the tournament but I found it a horrible tournament to play.
| Level | Ante | Bring-in | Interval | Break | Bet Limit |
| 1 | 5 | 7 | 15 | 0 | 25,50 (Fixed Limit) |
| 2 | 10 | 15 | 15 | 0 | 50,100 (Fixed Limit) |
| 3 | 15 | 24 | 15 | 0 | 75, 150 (Fixed Limit) |
| 4 | 20 | 30 | 15 | 0 | 100,200 (Fixed Limit) |
| break | |||||
| 5 | 30 | 45 | 15 | 0 | 150,300 (Fixed Limit) |
| 6 | 40 | 60 | 15 | 0 | 200,400 (Fixed Limit) |
| 7 | 60 | 90 | 15 | 0 | 300,600 (Fixed Limit) |
| 8 | 80 | 120 | 15 | 0 | 400,800 (Fixed Limit) |
| break | |||||
| 9 | 100 | 150 | 15 | 0 | 500,1000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 10 | 120 | 180 | 15 | 0 | 600,1200 (Fixed Limit) |
| 11 | 160 | 240 | 15 | 0 | 800,1600 (Fixed Limit) |
| 12 | 200 | 300 | 15 | 0 | 1000,2000 (Fixed Limit) |
| break | |||||
| 13 | 240 | 360 | 15 | 0 | 1200,2400 (Fixed Limit) |
| 14 | 320 | 480 | 15 | 0 | 1600,3200 (Fixed Limit) |
| 15 | 400 | 600 | 15 | 0 | 2000,4000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 16 | 500 | 750 | 15 | 0 | 2500,5000 (Fixed Limit) |
| break | |||||
| 17 | 600 | 900 | 15 | 0 | 3000,6000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 18 | 800 | 1200 | 15 | 0 | 4000,8000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 19 | 1000 | 1500 | 15 | 0 | 5000,10000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 20 | 1200 | 1800 | 15 | 0 | 6000,12000 (Fixed Limit) |
| break | |||||
| 21 | 1600 | 2400 | 15 | 0 | 8000,16000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 22 | 2000 | 3000 | 15 | 0 | 10000,20000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 23 | 2400 | 3600 | 15 | 0 | 12000,24000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 24 | 3200 | 4800 | 15 | 0 | 16000,32000 (Fixed Limit) |
| break | |||||
| 25 | 4000 | 6000 | 15 | 0 | 20000,40000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 26 | 5000 | 7500 | 15 | 0 | 25000,50000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 27 | 6000 | 9000 | 15 | 0 | 30000,60000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 28 | 8000 | 12000 | 15 | 40000,80000 (Fixed Limit) | |
| break | |||||
| 29 | 10000 | 15000 | 15 | 0 | 50000,100000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 30 | 12000 | 18000 | 15 | 0 | 60000,120000 (Fixed Limit) |
| Level | Ante | Bring-in | Interval | Bet Limit |
| 1 | 5 | 13 | 10 | 25,50 (Fixed Limit) |
| 2 | 5 | 25 | 10 | 50,100 (Fixed Limit) |
| 3 | 10 | 40 | 10 | 80,160 (Fixed Limit) |
| 4 | 10 | 50 | 10 | 100,200 (Fixed Limit) |
| 5 | 15 | 75 | 10 | 150,300 (Fixed Limit) |
| 6 | 20 | 100 | 10 | 200,400 (Fixed Limit) |
| break | ||||
| 7 | 30 | 150 | 10 | 300,600 (Fixed Limit) |
| 8 | 40 | 200 | 10 | 400,800 (Fixed Limit) |
| 9 | 50 | 250 | 10 | 500,1000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 10 | 60 | 300 | 10 | 600,1200 (Fixed Limit) |
| 11 | 80 | 400 | 10 | 800,1600 (Fixed Limit) |
| 12 | 100 | 500 | 10 | 1000,2000 (Fixed Limit) |
| break | ||||
| 13 | 120 | 600 | 10 | 1200,2400 (Fixed Limit) |
| 14 | 160 | 800 | 10 | 1600,3200 (Fixed Limit) |
| 15 | 200 | 1000 | 10 | 2000,4000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 16 | 250 | 1250 | 10 | 2500,5000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 17 | 300 | 1500 | 10 | 3000,6000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 18 | 400 | 2000 | 10 | 4000,8000 (Fixed Limit) |
| break | ||||
| 19 | 500 | 2500 | 10 | 5000,10000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 20 | 600 | 3000 | 10 | 6000,12000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 21 | 800 | 4000 | 10 | 8000,16000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 22 | 1000 | 5000 | 10 | 10000,20000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 23 | 1200 | 6000 | 10 | 12000,24000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 24 | 1600 | 8000 | 10 | 16000,32000 (Fixed Limit) |
| break | ||||
| 25 | 2000 | 10000 | 10 | 20000,40000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 26 | 3000 | 15000 | 10 | 30000,60000 (Fixed Limit) |
| 27 | 5000 | 25000 | 10 | 50000,100000 (Fixed Limit) |
Thanks for looking at this for us Matt.
I prefer the Stars structure, but maybe because that is what I am used to.
Again, it"s probably best to wait for the Stud experts for their views ... if no one else replies then flip coin ftw ;)
I think the antes need to be high as there is only effectively one "small blind" per hand, the bring in
The biggest difference was that bring-in was 50% of completion. Normally it is 30%. This made a huge difference. Normally a player with a high card showing can take a pot down by completing as the bringer-in has to call 70, with 30 already in. When it is 50 to call, with 50 already in, they are priced in to call. I can"t say for certain that this was a unique innovation, but I have never seen it before.
lol vg :D
I"ll sea you in Glasgow! :)
Matt, the reason it hasn"t arisen as an issue on BOSS before may be that, although they have a standard structure, I don"t think they ever actually hold any Stud tournaments.