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Title: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on October 31, 2012, 20:53:25 PM
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on October 31, 2012, 20:53:37 PM
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Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on October 31, 2012, 20:53:45 PM
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Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sugar_Free on October 31, 2012, 21:59:21 PM
Absolutely loving the look of this.

APAT comes up with yet another winner
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 01, 2012, 12:45:47 PM

APAT Bunch of Fives tournaments are five tournaments, on five different days, across five poker variants, all costing five euros to play.

And all games are five thousand starting stack, and five handed! :D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: mporter123 on November 01, 2012, 13:03:24 PM
Personally, I would prefer one "niche variant" rather than two - Stud and 5 Card Draw.. what is 5 card draw?! Heads up tournament might get more runners?

I look forward to playing the NLH and Omaha variants, great promotion.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 01, 2012, 13:14:39 PM

Personally, I would prefer one "niche variant" rather than two - Stud and 5 Card Draw.. what is 5 card draw?! Heads up tournament might get more runners?

I look forward to playing the NLH and Omaha variants, great promotion.



5 card draw was my idea  :-\ I think we"ll evaluate it after one week, and if people dislike that variant, or think that 2 "niche" events is 1 too many, then we could make a change. I agree that HU would be a good replacement.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: nosey-p on November 01, 2012, 17:20:56 PM
Get Boss to put RAZZ on
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on November 01, 2012, 19:49:41 PM

what is 5 card draw?!


OMG, how the world has changed! Who"d have thought we"d ever see that on a poker forum.

Mark, for years 5-Card Draw basically was poker in Britain and Ireland (and, presumably, everywhere else too). We would read in the newspapers about Terry Rogers and his friends playing this game from Las Vegas called No-Limit Texas Hold-em, but it sounded very risky and above our wallet, so we never bothered to find out how it worked.

I actually started playing Draw again on Stars a few months ago, for the first time in years. I thought it would be boring in comparison, but I"ve enjoyed it a lot and I keep dipping back in, so I"m pleased to see it on the list. Hope it stays.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: mporter123 on November 02, 2012, 11:31:40 AM


OMG, how the world has changed! Who"d have thought we"d ever see that on a poker forum.

Mark, for years 5-Card Draw basically was poker in Britain and Ireland (and, presumably, everywhere else too). We would read in the newspapers about Terry Rogers and his friends playing this game from Las Vegas called No-Limit Texas Hold-em, but it sounded very risky and above our wallet, so we never bothered to find out how it worked.

I actually started playing Draw again on Stars a few months ago, for the first time in years. I thought it would be boring in comparison, but I"ve enjoyed it a lot and I keep dipping back in, so I"m pleased to see it on the list. Hope it stays.


OMG, epic LOLz.  8)

If you can adapt and learn NL Holdem then I will try and learn 5 card draw/stud/razz etc etc etc. Its like a poker game version of wife swap.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 02, 2012, 12:34:08 PM
What MintTrav says above is true :)

I used to play loads of 5-card draw. Whenever we had a "poker night" back in the days of studentdom, it would always be this game.

Also, nobody knew the bloody rules for betting, and there was a lot of "I"ll call your 2p, and raise you 2p" (all betting was fixed limit, and as for the amounts - bear in mind we were poor students! :D)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: kohan on November 04, 2012, 18:31:58 PM


what is 5 card draw?!


OMG, how the world has changed! Who"d have thought we"d ever see that on a poker forum.

Mark, for years 5-Card Draw basically was poker in Britain and Ireland (and, presumably, everywhere else too). We would read in the newspapers about Terry Rogers and his friends playing this game from Las Vegas called No-Limit Texas Hold-em, but it sounded very risky and above our wallet, so we never bothered to find out how it worked.

I actually started playing Draw again on Stars a few months ago, for the first time in years. I thought it would be boring in comparison, but I"ve enjoyed it a lot and I keep dipping back in, so I"m pleased to see it on the list. Hope it stays.



          +1
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: ian.ski309 on November 05, 2012, 15:48:25 PM
I have only a rough idea how to play 7 card stud and I"m sure I won"t be the only one who is absolutely lost with PLO Hi Lo and 5 card draw. These games will obviously appeal to the "specialists" within APAT and why not..? It will be interesting to see how many people play Wed-Fri inclusive.

There may be others, like me, who think that if they can"t play all five then the prizes are out of their reach - in which case they may not play any at all. If the numbers weren"t to materialise on Wed-Fri, is there any scope for altering the weekly format ? Just asking...  ;)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sugar_Free on November 05, 2012, 17:56:21 PM

There may be others, like me, who think that if they can"t play all five then the prizes are out of their reach - in which case they may not play any at all.


But the scoring system is such that the advantage goes to those that are proficient in the more popular games. Say the Draw and Stud games only have 8 runners each yet the PLO has 20 runners, then 4th place in the PLO receives more points than someone who wins both the Stud AND Draw. Hence play just the popular games and you have every chance of winning.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Santino67 on November 05, 2012, 18:14:25 PM
Backshift this week till 10pm Wed-Fri  :( Means I can only play tonight & tomorrow but here goes  ;)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 05, 2012, 18:50:03 PM


There may be others, like me, who think that if they can"t play all five then the prizes are out of their reach - in which case they may not play any at all.


But the scoring system is such that the advantage goes to those that are proficient in the more popular games. Say the Draw and Stud games only have 8 runners each yet the PLO has 20 runners, then 4th place in the PLO receives more points than someone who wins both the Stud AND Draw. Hence play just the popular games and you have every chance of winning.


Pretty much what he said  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: ian.ski309 on November 05, 2012, 20:55:36 PM



There may be others, like me, who think that if they can"t play all five then the prizes are out of their reach - in which case they may not play any at all.


But the scoring system is such that the advantage goes to those that are proficient in the more popular games. Say the Draw and Stud games only have 8 runners each yet the PLO has 20 runners, then 4th place in the PLO receives more points than someone who wins both the Stud AND Draw. Hence play just the popular games and you have every chance of winning.


Pretty much what he said  ;D


Fair enough. I reckon I"ll watch from the sidelines this week and see how it all pans out.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: fandango on November 05, 2012, 22:39:19 PM
PLO is a silly game the end.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: NellieG on November 06, 2012, 11:21:18 AM
I cannot find these bunch of five games on the poker.co.uk site. I wanted to play last night can someone please tell me where I find them. Thanks
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: fandango on November 06, 2012, 11:51:35 AM

I cannot find these bunch of five games on the poker.co.uk site. I wanted to play last night can someone please tell me where I find them. Thanks


The best way is to use the filters.. Then search alphabetically I usually block out running and finished I believe the APAT games are coloured also but I may be wrong, hope to see you at tables Nellie good to see you back xx
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: HOLDorFOLD on November 06, 2012, 12:06:37 PM


I cannot find these bunch of five games on the poker.co.uk site. I wanted to play last night can someone please tell me where I find them. Thanks


The best way is to use the filters.. Then search alphabetically I usually block out running and finished I believe the APAT games are coloured also but I may be wrong, hope to see you at tables Nellie good to see you back xx


Give me a call mum if you can"t find them still .. but what Carl says usually works for me x
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: NellieG on November 06, 2012, 12:34:11 PM
Thanks Carl, finally found it for tonight after a lot of messing about with filters. I don"t know about other games this week as I don"t know how to play them lol
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: fandango on November 06, 2012, 15:15:54 PM

Thanks Carl, finally found it for tonight after a lot of messing about with filters. I don"t know about other games this week as I don"t know how to play them lol


Dont worry you are not alone, just google how to play it works for others  ;D.

Hmmm now there is a thought Michelle, cant say i hear that "what i say usually works" to often  ;D ;D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sugar_Free on November 07, 2012, 13:34:34 PM
I think the scoring system on this looks rather skewiff with regard to players getting knocked out in the late reg period and the ranking that they are assigned by the software.

Player A gets knocked out first when there are only 30 players and is awarded 30th place, Player B gets knocked out an hour and a half later after another say 15 players have registered and is awarded say 41st place. Player A gets 16 points for lasting 10 minutes compared to Player B"s 5 points.

Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Scousebill on November 07, 2012, 13:52:37 PM
I was watching the places for a while and thought the same but then I thought maybe it"s on the amount of hands played. I"m sure the one who went out third didn"t actually finish 3rd from bottom (38th)..
There was also I think two players who finished 34th and two another position 25th I think..
There was also a point when there was about 35 left in that someone already finished was placed as 28th so there was some sort of program running to sort out your positions if you started after the first hand was dealt.
Apart from having to sit out twice because I"m the family taxi I thought is was OK...
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: fandango on November 07, 2012, 14:16:43 PM

I think the scoring system on this looks rather skewiff with regard to players getting knocked out in the late reg period and the ranking that they are assigned by the software.

Player A gets knocked out first when there are only 30 players and is awarded 30th place, Player B gets knocked out an hour and a half later after another say 15 players have registered and is awarded say 41st place. Player A gets 16 points for lasting 10 minutes compared to Player B"s 5 points.




I was watching the places for a while and thought the same but then I thought maybe it"s on the amount of hands played. I"m sure the one who went out third didn"t actually finish 3rd from bottom (38th)..
There was also I think two players who finished 34th and two another position 25th I think..
There was also a point when there was about 35 left in that someone already finished was placed as 28th so there was some sort of program running to sort out your positions if you started after the first hand was dealt.
Apart from having to sit out twice because I"m the family taxi I thought is was OK...


Ok im officially confuddled.. i dont understand any of it?.. Maybe its programmed to stop people reg a min before ends so they gain an advantage of climbing the points ladder if that works? either way im sure the eventual winner will be the person who played the best over the whole 5 events and not those who joined as when during the first 60 mins.. but i could be wrong i normally am  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Rhino56 on November 07, 2012, 14:18:00 PM
I also agree with sugar_Free comments and find it perverse that I was KOed first and still got 14 points.
I think in leaderboard tournaments, it would be best not to have late entries. Theres no reason why people who cant make the start time, couldn"t pre-register, thus having the penalty of having lost some blinds before they begin the tournament.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: thinsy147 on November 08, 2012, 00:44:27 AM

I also agree with sugar_Free comments and find it perverse that I was KOed first and still got 14 points.
I think in leaderboard tournaments, it would be best not to have late entries. Theres no reason why people who cant make the start time, couldn"t pre-register, thus having the penalty of having lost some blinds before they begin the tournament.


I played well into post late-reg last night. I late reg"d by about 5 minutes with aprox 27 players entered but finished 39th for 3 points only to see players who went out before me with more points!

However, having reg"d for tonights game I unfortunately never got chance to play or de-register.... Earned a healthy 11 points though!

I"m better when I don"t turn up!!

Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 08, 2012, 11:02:34 AM
I"ll have a look at finding a solution for this guys.

We had a similar situation when we ran this on another site in a previous season, I"m not sure any of the poker software actually is able to manage exits properly in the early stages when late reg is available. (I"ll have to check Stars, as if anyone can do it, then it"s probably them)

Yes, it could make a difference to the overall standings, and if I think that this is having a dramatic impact, then we may have to consider removing late reg.

I don"t want to do that, as I know some players don"t get home for 7pm, so a 60 minute window is ideal for them, but I will look into the options.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: nosey-p on November 08, 2012, 11:42:05 AM
Just give points to the top 20 places or if you want to reward people for playing each game then add an extra point or 2 just for playing
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: pokerpops on November 08, 2012, 12:28:50 PM
Start at 8pm???
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: nosey-p on November 08, 2012, 13:59:13 PM
Or start at 8  ;)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: pokerpops on November 08, 2012, 14:39:45 PM

Start at 8pm???



Or start at 8  ;)


???
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: nosey-p on November 08, 2012, 15:49:35 PM


Start at 8pm???



Or start at 8  ;)


???


I was trying to be funny

Not pointing out the obvious and you did

I won't give up my day job
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 09, 2012, 22:31:29 PM
Congratulations to Andrew Jones and Johnny Gibb, who both qualify for the Grand Final from Week 1 of the Bunch Of Fives tournaments.

The leaderboard will be reset, and we"ll all go again from Monday.


  PLO   NLHE   7CS   PLO H/L   5CD   Total        
                   
Andrew Jones (Roobarb10)    23   44   21   15   20   123        
Johnny Gibb (Divvits)    29   38   19   17   11   114        
John Murray (TravMint)    30   35   7   18   14   104        
Ralph Osker (Merkland.)    22   32   13   22   8   97        
Patrick Conlin (rubyalfie1)    31   31   -   26   6   94        
Vaino Tiik (Rhino5656)    34   14   15   24   3   90        
Gary Phillips (Penny4Them)    14   27   17   14   16   88        
Mark Curwen (Mooncat2)    4   40   20   20   1   85        
Mark Gray (sm3llyp00p)    10   29   10   23   13   85        
Mark Porter (M_Porter)    35   37   4   2   -   78        
Matthew Carter (5ugarFree)    12   39   14   5   7   77        
Carl Pilgrim (fandango41)    26   8   16   11   15   76        
Colin McCarthy (147thinsy)    36   3   11   -   19   69        
(xKWN34x)    -   21   18   19   10   68        
Gordon McArthur (RiggedOFC)    28   16   -   21   -   65        
Shug Cairnie (_Nighthawk)    32   23   6   -   2   63        
Leigh Wiltshire (FORTUNATUS)    6   43   5   -   4   58        
Tony Trippier (TONYTRIPPS)    27   20   2   7   -   56        
Andrew Galloway (nomug)    5   25   -   25   -   55        
Frank Bailie (cormach111)    20   9   8   1   17   55        
Kevin O"Hanlan (kohan1947)    17   -   22   13   -   52        
Craig Dawson (ZozzyAPAT)    -   41   -   10   -   51        
Ger Smyth (lubandige)    -   36   12   -   -   48        
Wayne Parker (Mr-Nosey-P)    -   42   -   -   -   42        
Andy Overton (Censword)    19   22   -   -   -   41        
Alan Steer (teaulcsg1)    15   10   -   16   -   41        
Paul Turnstill (bethany1)    33   2   -   4   -   39        
Tom Clark (LombBomb72)    25   12   -   -   -   37        
Asa McGrath (amcgrath1)    9   26   -   -   -   35        
(SQR64Q)    -   34   -   -   -   34        
Steve Roderick (NCFCAPAT)    16   17   -   -   -   33        
(CrimsoLash)    -   33   -   -   -   33        
Stuart Ward (stupidsite)    -   30   -   -   -   30        
Jo Sharp (NinjaJoJo)    -   28   -   -   -   28        
Peter MacRitchie (Peter1890)    13   13   -   -   -   26        
Grant Speirs (MrSheen67)    1   24   -   -   -   25        
Stuart Fordham (fatblokey2)    24   -   -   -   -   24        
Matt Dale (*SuperHans)    21   -   -   -   -   21        
(Z1m3r)    -   -   3   -   18   21        
Karl Bursford (U.T.U.B.)    -   19   -   -   -   19        
(BigBlin)    -   4   -   3   12   19        
Mike Scothern (mikes9361)    18   -   -   -   -   18        
Steve Harrison (azkals)    -   18   -   -   -   18        
Michelle Gascoine (FFS_REALLY)    -   15   -   -   -   15        
(1PLAYTRASH)    -   7   -   6   -   13        
Bob Bulman (bobbymouse)    -   -   -   12   -   12        
Rich Baker (curlarge55)    11   -   -   -   -   11        
(Craigellen)    -   11   -   -   -   11        
Helen Godfrey (AvonGirlP)    -   -   9   -   -   9        
(APATCK)    -   -   -   9   -   9        
(redsimon63)    -   -   -   -   9   9        
Richard Rudling-Smith (Rudders64)    8   -   -   -   -   8        
Paul Gupta (Gupp9y)    2   6   -   -   -   8        
(The Khatru)    -   -   -   8   -   8        
Steve Redfern (AMRNapat)    7   -   -   -   -   7        
(rainbow52)    -   5   -   -   -   5        
(suzanne66)    -   -   -   -   5   5        
Paul McGuinness (SpamFritze)    3   -   -   -   -   3        
(keithkt)    -   1   -   -   -   1        
(kjrs1983)    -   -   1   -   -   1        

Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on November 09, 2012, 22:39:06 PM
Well done Divvits, played well all week.

The rest of us carry forward points to next round?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Divitts. on November 10, 2012, 06:37:28 AM
Thanks mate,delighted to be in the final.
Good luck in the coming games.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: teaulc on November 10, 2012, 10:37:32 AM
well done John and Andrew, good luck in the final
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: shug on November 10, 2012, 10:57:43 AM
Enjoyed playing games I had no idea about, although did find limit 7 card stud just a little "quiet" for my taste. As for draw I am away to find out how to play it properly...

One point though, not that it made any difference this time to me but it seems a little unfair that players who were knocked out early eg Suzanne got 5 points yet I only got 2 for the Draw.  It seems that if people register after you have been knocked out then the awarding of points for finishing places get mixed up. This is not a complaint only an observation!!!!!!!
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Rhino56 on November 10, 2012, 11:14:36 AM
Congratulations to Andrew and Johnny, well played guys
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on November 10, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Well done Matt for spearheading the rejuvenation of 5-Card Draw.

The changes that online rooms have brought have improved it - the introduction of blinds and elimination of the requirement for openers make it a better game. Boss" slow-motion draws are a bit annoying, but not too much.

It was interesting that numbers held up fairly well through the week, despite unfamiliarity with some of the later games. There is always some fall-off in points-based leagues, as people become unable to qualify, so the numbers towards the end were quite good. It might be interesting to experiment with reversing the sequence, putting the best-known games last, to see how the numbers go.

Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: fandango on November 10, 2012, 14:41:33 PM

well done John and Andrew, good luck in the final

+1  pretty much dominated the week with deep finishes.. Good play you two now time to let us mere mortals have a chance to qualify  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: shug on November 10, 2012, 15:01:42 PM

Well done Matt for spearheading the rejuvenation of 5-Card Draw.

The changes that online rooms have brought have improved it - the introduction of blinds and elimination of the requirement for openers make it a better game. Boss" slow-motion draws are a bit annoying, but not too much.

It was interesting that numbers held up fairly well through the week, despite unfamiliarity with some of the later games. There is always some fall-off in points-based leagues, as people become unable to qualify, so the numbers towards the end were quite good. It might be interesting to experiment with reversing the sequence, putting the best-known games last, to see how the numbers go.



For once in my life I find myself in agreement with John Murray. Has he finally made sense or have I finally lost it?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: NellieG on November 12, 2012, 08:14:57 AM
I really enjoyed playing these games, besides Holdem I have played Omaha a few times but none of the others. The great thing about these bunch of five games with APAT is I can try these and not feel I am making an idiot of myself.  I am really looking forward to playing again this week.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 12, 2012, 18:21:17 PM
Week 2 kicks off with Pot Limit Omaha this evening at 7pm.  Assuming we hit a minimum of 7 runners, there"ll be 60 minutes of late registration to take advantage of.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Waz1892 on November 12, 2012, 20:40:59 PM
That was a headache and fun at the same time...

No flipping idea what I was doing 90% of the time!!

Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Swinebag on November 16, 2012, 13:21:37 PM
 Could we get the table updated before the last game tonight please?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Waz1892 on November 16, 2012, 14:34:07 PM

Could we get the table updated before the last game tonight please?


oops, just posted the same on the other thread!  :)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: NellieG on November 16, 2012, 19:04:59 PM
Really annoyed, i minute late to register, I thought there was late registration on these games doh!!!!!
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Outlander on November 16, 2012, 19:11:19 PM

Really annoyed, i minute late to register, I thought there was late registration on these games doh!!!!!


Likewise. Have been playing the week"s other events having registered late but for final one.. having rushed to get home from work before 7.30pm ... discover that there is no late reg for the last one. Not sure what the positions are but know I was in with a chance of finishing near the top. Feel really let down.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: NellieG on November 16, 2012, 19:17:11 PM
I am on to support now
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: NellieG on November 16, 2012, 19:20:48 PM
They are getting on to the APAT team & will send me an email with their reply. I have no chance of being near the top but like the games. It is a shame for those like you who are.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Outlander on November 16, 2012, 19:23:27 PM
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: HOLDorFOLD on November 16, 2012, 19:25:38 PM
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sugar_Free on November 16, 2012, 19:26:59 PM
What I find disappointing is after week one where we had enough people interested and kept them interested to get 20 people playing 5 card draw, we follow it up by letting everyone lose interest by halfway through the week. No leaderboard updates after round 2, no-one knows what they have to do to get through and now the game set up wrong with no late reg.

TBH late reg doesn"t work on this type of tourney, 8pm start with no late reg would be better, but can"t move the goalposts, maybe on the next set.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: NellieG on November 16, 2012, 19:27:26 PM
I have also sent Leigh a message
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: thinsy147 on November 16, 2012, 19:27:43 PM
Boss only does "late reg" if 9 or more (I think) register at the normal starting time!

It"s a shame as I was planning on late registering too.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: NellieG on November 16, 2012, 19:30:29 PM

What I find disappointing is after week one where we had enough people interested and kept them interested to get 20 people playing 5 card draw, we follow it up by letting everyone lose interest by halfway through the week. No leaderboard updates after round 2, no-one knows what they have to do to get through and now the game set up wrong with no late reg.

TBH late reg doesn"t work on this type of tourney, 8pm start with no late reg would be better, but can"t move the goalposts, maybe on the next set.


Agree, it is disappointing. I am new to all the other games besides Holdem but I found them fun learning and have played every game. I feel sorry for those who are taking this seriously and are in the points.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Cyntaf on November 16, 2012, 19:36:40 PM
Very disappointed too. Rushed home from work to find no reg available.

The outcome will not be too bad for me, results wise. I would still prefer to have tangled at the 5 card draw, it is my only week available to play as working lates for the time being.  It has been a fascinating week of mixed games and great company. Wish it could happen more.

I"m sure there will be a good reason, as to why tables have not been up-dated....Still a bit frustrating ;D

Didn"t know you couldn"t late reg if nine players min don"t start??
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sugar_Free on November 16, 2012, 19:40:08 PM

Boss only does "late reg" if 9 or more (I think) register at the normal starting time!

It"s a shame as I was planning on late registering too.



I thought it was 6 minimum
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Cyntaf on November 16, 2012, 19:42:30 PM


Boss only does "late reg" if 9 or more (I think) register at the normal starting time!

It"s a shame as I was planning on late registering too.



I thought it was 6 minimum


Makes more sense as post says goes ahead as long as there are 7 runners??
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: NellieG on November 16, 2012, 19:42:52 PM
Poker.Co.UK said have to have minimum of 10 players to have late reg. Oh well will know for the future.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Outlander on November 16, 2012, 19:43:49 PM


Agree, it is disappointing. I am new to all the other games besides Holdem but I found them fun learning and have played every game. I feel sorry for those who are taking this seriously and are in the points.


Also playing the last 3 games for first time and apart from feeling miffed coz of the points was looking forward to giving 5CD a go... just done a quick tally of the points and poor numbers mean that even Cormach and BobbyS who are playing now have no chance of getting in top two coz of the low numbers when it seems a lot of people would have registered late... which would have also afforded them the opportunity of finishing at top. poor end to a fun week of poker.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sugar_Free on November 16, 2012, 19:48:03 PM

I"m sure there will be a good reason, as to why tables have not been up-dated.


Without a doubt, and that wasn"t meant to be a swipe at Leigh although it reads back as such, but one of the main problems with APAT leagues is how to keep people interested till the end
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Cyntaf on November 16, 2012, 19:53:42 PM


I"m sure there will be a good reason, as to why tables have not been up-dated.


Without a doubt, and that wasn"t meant to be a swipe at Leigh although it reads back as such, but one of the main problems with APAT leagues is how to keep people interested till the end


No, i never read it as such. I too was disappointed and did not want to dig at Leigh , nor anyone else.
Had good fun all week with you and never thought anything like that of you. Look forward to next bash. :)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Waz1892 on November 16, 2012, 19:59:54 PM
A big disapointment for those up the top and a chance to get into the Top 2, that it never made the minimum runners.

I should think it feels like a "waste" of getting good results in the other games.

not sure if this can be avoided for future events if they are not supported as it seems at present.

For what it is worth, a think too many, "bespoke" varients put people off just  imo.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on November 16, 2012, 20:00:27 PM
Missed the start by one minute too. I was gonna play to increase the numbers cos otherwise it can be difficult for anyone to dislodge the current leaders (I haven"t checked the league - don"t know who is currently leading it).


"bespoke" varients put people off

I"m not sure that is true, judging by the number who have posted that they were going to play.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: NellieG on November 16, 2012, 20:13:15 PM

Missed the start by one minute too. I was gonna play to increase the numbers cos otherwise it can be difficult for anyone to dislodge the current leaders (I haven"t checked the league - don"t know who is currently leading it).


"bespoke" varients put people off

I"m not sure that is true, judging by the number who have posted that they were going to play.


To be honest, I would of thought the other games would give people (like me) to learn in a fun way amongst friends and support APAT.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Waz1892 on November 16, 2012, 20:29:00 PM

Missed the start by one minute too. I was gonna play to increase the numbers cos otherwise it can be difficult for anyone to dislodge the current leaders (I haven"t checked the league - don"t know who is currently leading it).


"bespoke" varients put people off

I"m not sure that is true, judging by the number who have posted that they were going to play.


I was meaning more overall, but i accept quite a few others would have played having just missed the late reg cut off.

Which agree would have made a difference to the leaderboard.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Outlander on November 16, 2012, 20:29:21 PM

A big disapointment for those up the top and a chance to get into the Top 2, that it never made the minimum runners.

I should think it feels like a "waste" of getting good results in the other games.

not sure if this can be avoided for future events if they are not supported as it seems at present.

For what it is worth, a think too many, "bespoke" varients put people off just  imo.


Have enjoyed the other variants and would have registered tonight... prob for me not the variants but the 7pm start.. late reg was good but it"s a let down for everyone when the last event counts for nothing... but dont think that"s due to variants.. having only really played hold"m and omaha before it"s nice to give the others a go in a league situation where it"s low expense with something to play for... anyway congats to Cyntaf.. think he"s this week"s winner... but I"m certain Paul would have rather had a game tonight in which others had a chance to take top spot off him than see no-one have a chance to beat him coz of poor last event.. he"d probably still have finished top because he has been the most consistent so far but I"m sure Frank and Rob and the rest of us near the top were looking forward to the challenge of trying to beat him... late reg was advertised... dont see why low numbers need to affect that... lots of people had intended to play and probably would have been close to 20 players by the end of late reg... had it been in effect
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Bigfella42 on November 16, 2012, 20:30:07 PM
Yeah I was ready to join half an hour in I enjoyed the 5 card draw last week.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: cincicrappykid on November 16, 2012, 20:33:45 PM

Missed the start by one minute too. I was gonna play to increase the numbers cos otherwise it can be difficult for anyone to dislodge the current leaders (I haven"t checked the league - don"t know who is currently leading it).


"bespoke" varients put people off

I"m not sure that is true, judging by the number who have posted that they were going to play.
League hasnt been updated since Tuesday which is a bit annoying, Was gonna play but no late reg....any reason for this
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Waz1892 on November 16, 2012, 20:36:01 PM


A big disapointment for those up the top and a chance to get into the Top 2, that it never made the minimum runners.

I should think it feels like a "waste" of getting good results in the other games.

not sure if this can be avoided for future events if they are not supported as it seems at present.

For what it is worth, a think too many, "bespoke" varients put people off just  imo.


Have enjoyed the other variants and would have registered tonight... prob for me not the variants but the 7pm start.. late reg was good but it"s a let down for everyone when the last event counts for nothing... but dont think that"s due to variants.. having only really played hold"m and omaha before it"s nice to give the others a go in a league situation where it"s low expense with something to play for... anyway congats to Cyntaf.. think he"s this week"s winner... but I"m certain Paul would have rather had a game tonight in which others had a chance to take top spot off him than see no-one have a chance to beat him coz of poor last event.. he"d probably still have finished top because he has been the most consistent so far but I"m sure Frank and Rob and the rest of us near the top were looking forward to the challenge of trying to beat him... late reg was advertised... dont see why low numbers need to affect that... lots of people had intended to play and probably would have been close to 20 players by the end of late reg... had it been in effect


not disagreeing with you at all on any points, and I retract my view on the varients having an effect on te low turn outs over the week!  :)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Swinebag on November 16, 2012, 22:01:06 PM
Whilst I agree about things being annoying regards late reg, no updates etc, Lets"s remember that this is totally out of character for Leigh and the APAT team.

If there is a reason that there has been no-one posting from APAT for the last 3 days, lets just hope its not for a reason that is bigger than poker, that makes us all look a bit stupid for bitching, when things finally come to light.

Just waiting patiently, myself
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Scousebill on November 16, 2012, 22:26:52 PM
Play them in a different order next week.... How about Heads Up instead of one of the 5 or 7 card...?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: HOLDorFOLD on November 16, 2012, 22:58:14 PM

Whilst I agree about things being annoying regards late reg, no updates etc, Lets"s remember that this is totally out of character for Leigh and the APAT team.

If there is a reason that there has been no-one posting from APAT for the last 3 days, lets just hope its not for a reason that is bigger than poker, that makes us all look a bit stupid for bitching, when things finally come to light.

Just waiting patiently, myself


Think that"s a bit of a harsh blanket statement there tbh.

The majority of posters expressed disappointment at there being no late reg when advertised as such ... a BOSS error, not an APAT member of staff error.

Myself and a few others posted disappointment at that bit (did not bitch), in fact some praised and like the way there are different variations of poker each night, learning a new game with APAT members to make for a good evening of fun  :)  

I certainly am enjoying this set of weekly tournaments. I do not pre-reg as work commitments cannot guarantee I will get home in time before I am blinded out, so will play if I get home in time ... do not have the bankroll at the moment to pre-reg and sit out of most of the game. So my thoughts on tonight were of disappointment at not being able to play, whilst emphathising with those whose were near the top spots on how gutted they probably feel ... hardly bitching.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Swinebag on November 16, 2012, 23:09:05 PM


Whilst I agree about things being annoying regards late reg, no updates etc, Lets"s remember that this is totally out of character for Leigh and the APAT team.

If there is a reason that there has been no-one posting from APAT for the last 3 days, lets just hope its not for a reason that is bigger than poker, that makes us all look a bit stupid for bitching, when things finally come to light.

Just waiting patiently, myself


Think that"s a bit of a harsh blanket statement there tbh.

The majority of posters expressed disappointment at there being no late reg when advertised as such ... a BOSS error, not an APAT member of staff error.

Myself and a few others posted disappointment at that bit (did not bitch), in fact some praised and like the way there are different variations of poker each night, learning a new game with APAT members to make for a good evening of fun  :)  

I certainly am enjoying this set of weekly tournaments. I do not pre-reg as work commitments cannot guarantee I will get home in time before I am blinded out, so will play if I get home in time ... do not have the bankroll at the moment to pre-reg and sit out of most of the game. So my thoughts on tonight were of disappointment at not being able to play, whilst emphathising with those whose were near the top spots on how gutted they probably feel ... hardly bitching.



yep, bitching does sound a bit too harsh and you are right, most posts are expressing disappointment.

However, as highlighted by you, that is a small part of my post and not the main point. The main point I was trying to get across (badly it seems) is that I hope everything is allright behind the scenes, as this period of forum silence from them is not normal.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Waz1892 on November 16, 2012, 23:16:05 PM
very unusually, and your post has me thinking.....not sure what it could be though

(+hidden) has been in and out of this thread.

But eerrily quite, quite un-nerving now you"ve mentioned it  :-\
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: HOLDorFOLD on November 16, 2012, 23:16:30 PM



Whilst I agree about things being annoying regards late reg, no updates etc, Lets"s remember that this is totally out of character for Leigh and the APAT team.

If there is a reason that there has been no-one posting from APAT for the last 3 days, lets just hope its not for a reason that is bigger than poker, that makes us all look a bit stupid for bitching, when things finally come to light.

Just waiting patiently, myself


Think that"s a bit of a harsh blanket statement there tbh.

The majority of posters expressed disappointment at there being no late reg when advertised as such ... a BOSS error, not an APAT member of staff error.

Myself and a few others posted disappointment at that bit (did not bitch), in fact some praised and like the way there are different variations of poker each night, learning a new game with APAT members to make for a good evening of fun  :)  

I certainly am enjoying this set of weekly tournaments. I do not pre-reg as work commitments cannot guarantee I will get home in time before I am blinded out, so will play if I get home in time ... do not have the bankroll at the moment to pre-reg and sit out of most of the game. So my thoughts on tonight were of disappointment at not being able to play, whilst emphathising with those whose were near the top spots on how gutted they probably feel ... hardly bitching.



yep, bitching does sound a bit too harsh and you are right, most posts are expressing disappointment.

However, as highlighted by you, that is a small part of my post and not the main point. The main point I was trying to get across (badly it seems) is that I hope everything is allright behind the scenes, as this period of forum silence from them is not normal.


I hear you and thought the same thing earlier (as others probably did too, as it"s unusual for leagues not be updated). That bit came across ... it was just a bit marred by the highlighted bit ;-)

Apologies back at you though  :-*
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 16, 2012, 23:24:16 PM
Hi everyone, I"ve just got in, so catching up on this thread.

Firstly, I"m very sorry about the lack of league updates. That is 100% my fault. Leigh jetted off on holiday yesterday and left me in charge of updating the tables, and although it"s on my "to do" list for today, I missed it and it totally slipped my mind :(

The late reg problem is a Boss error, and I share the annoyance/infuriation with that, especially as this isn"t the first time they"ve set up our tournaments incorrectly. I need to contact them to ask how the hell it happened, and to make sure other games are set up correctly in this respect moving forwards.

I haven"t read all the posts in this thread yet, so please bear with me. Will publish tables first, then get back to them.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 16, 2012, 23:33:08 PM
Just a quick update re: late reg.

On Boss late reg. comes into effect if there are more than 7 players registered (or left) in a tournament. If there are 7 or less then there is no late reg.

A quick look at the lobby with tonight"s results, shows just 7 players were registered at the time the tourney started, meaning there would be no late reg. This is correct.

It"s also worth bearing in mind, that if 8 players registered then there would be late reg. However, if at any point the number of players hits 7 (or below) then late reg. ends.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Outlander on November 16, 2012, 23:53:06 PM

Just a quick update re: late reg.

On Boss late reg. comes into effect if there are more than 7 players registered (or left) in a tournament. If there are 7 or less then there is no late reg.

A quick look at the lobby with tonight"s results, shows just 7 players were registered at the time the tourney started, meaning there would be no late reg. This is correct.

It"s also worth bearing in mind, that if 8 players registered then there would be late reg. However, if at any point the number of players hits 7 (or below) then late reg. ends.


Appreciate that now Matt but this was not made clear before hand so is very frustrating.... I managed to escape from work a bit earlier tonight coz I was keen to play and I could have registered in time had I known this was the case but as there was late reg and I wanted to have something to eat before registering I didnt register in time. If the lobby reflected this Boss stipulation all would have been clear. All it has done though is made the last event pointless with no bearing on league outcome when it seems there was the interest, which could have provided a good climax to the league. As much as I enjoyed taking part it certainly wont encourage me to play in subsequent weeks.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on November 17, 2012, 00:14:26 AM

Play them in a different order next week.... How about Heads Up instead of one of the 5 or 7 card...?


No, keep them. If you want to drop something, lose the PLO.

I agree with reversing the order though.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 17, 2012, 00:17:15 AM
Point taken re: late reg. We have posted the rules on late reg. on (almost) every online event we"ve run. However, for this series the text just says "Late registration is available in these tournaments (as per Boss Network Rules)".

"Boss Networks Rules" state that a minimum number of players are required in order for late reg. to be activated. I agree this could have been worded more clearly on the "Bunch of Fives" rules page.

To slightly complicate matters, Boss seem to have increased the minimum from 7 to 8 players recently, without notifying us. I will get Boss to confirm the late reg. rules, and I"ll post them up in a prominent place on the forum - e.g. a sticky thread - or make sure that all tourneys that have late reg. have this info on the corresponding forum thread, or in the software lobby itself (if there is room), or both.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Outlander on November 17, 2012, 00:22:27 AM


Play them in a different order next week.... How about Heads Up instead of one of the 5 or 7 card...?


No, keep them. If you want to drop something, lose the PLO.

I agree with reversing the order though.


Also agree... having more popular formats at end would probably keep more people interested.. but part of the fun is playing different games... and HU means a lot of waiting around... PLO Hi/Low confused the hell out of me but at least now I"ve given it a go and will have a better idea next time (although I"m not entirely sure about that)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on November 17, 2012, 00:30:09 AM

Point taken re: late reg. We have posted the rules on late reg. on (almost) every online event we"ve run. However, for this series the text just says "Late registration is available in these tournaments (as per Boss Network Rules)".

"Boss Networks Rules" state that a minimum number of players are required in order for late reg. to be activated. I agree this could have been worded more clearly on the "Bunch of Fives" rules page.

To slightly complicate matters, Boss seem to have increased the minimum from 7 to 8 players recently, without notifying us. I will get Boss to confirm the late reg. rules, and I"ll post them up in a prominent place on the forum - e.g. a sticky thread - or make sure that all tourneys that have late reg. have this info on the corresponding forum thread, or in the software lobby itself (if there is room), or both.


A lot of people find it a stretch to get home and organised by 7o"c. As late reg is causing problems, why don"t we scrap it and just start at 8pm?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Outlander on November 17, 2012, 00:39:57 AM

Point taken re: late reg. We have posted the rules on late reg. on (almost) every online event we"ve run. However, for this series the text just says "Late registration is available in these tournaments (as per Boss Network Rules)".



Dont remember seeing bit about "as per Boss network rules" but I"m sure you"re right and it"s there. Personally I"m not a fan of late reg, although it has helped me be able to take part this week until tonight when my unfamiliarity with Boss (as I only take part in APAT sats and very rarely on DTD) meant I missed out on playing. Think the Bunch of Fives is great, want to support Apat wherever possible, but I"m not happy when things arent clear. As 7pm start is difficult for me the experience tonight means I wont make an effort to play in future weeks, coz I feel you cant have late reg for one event and not all the others - another reason not to include HU. Put back the start time to 8pm and scrap late reg I say... oh and change the order of tournies to keep more people interested.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 17, 2012, 00:42:17 AM


Point taken re: late reg. We have posted the rules on late reg. on (almost) every online event we"ve run. However, for this series the text just says "Late registration is available in these tournaments (as per Boss Network Rules)".

"Boss Networks Rules" state that a minimum number of players are required in order for late reg. to be activated. I agree this could have been worded more clearly on the "Bunch of Fives" rules page.

To slightly complicate matters, Boss seem to have increased the minimum from 7 to 8 players recently, without notifying us. I will get Boss to confirm the late reg. rules, and I"ll post them up in a prominent place on the forum - e.g. a sticky thread - or make sure that all tourneys that have late reg. have this info on the corresponding forum thread, or in the software lobby itself (if there is room), or both.


A lot of people find it a stretch to get home and organised by 7o"c. As late reg is causing problems, why don"t we scrap it and just start at 8pm?


Good idea.

Though, if we start at 8pm the game will run on 1 hour later obviously (all other things being equal).

The end times of this week"s games were (number of runners in brackets):

Monday: Pot Limit Omaha (34) = 10.17pm
Tuesday: Hold'em (33) = 9.54pm
Wednesday: 7 Card Stud (28) = 11.26pm
Thursday: Pot Limit Omaha H/L (24) = 10.25pm
Friday: 5 Card Draw (7) = 10pm

If we move everything an hour later that could mean some games run on a bit too late. Though, we could also look at altering the blind structures? e.g Does 4 and a half hours for a 28 person 7-card-stud game does seem a little long?...
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 17, 2012, 00:46:02 AM


Point taken re: late reg. We have posted the rules on late reg. on (almost) every online event we"ve run. However, for this series the text just says "Late registration is available in these tournaments (as per Boss Network Rules)".



Dont remember seeing bit about "as per Boss network rules" but I"m sure you"re right and it"s there.


It"s listed towards the bottom of the first post on this thread: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=12503.0

Put back the start time to 8pm and scrap late reg I say... oh and change the order of tournies to keep more people interested.


2 votes now for 8pm starts and scrapping late reg.

edit: 3 votes (missed one from earlier in thread).
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 17, 2012, 00:48:02 AM
Leaderboard for week 2: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=12548
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Outlander on November 17, 2012, 00:54:21 AM


The end times of this week"s games were (number of runners in brackets):

Monday: Pot Limit Omaha (34) = 10.17pm
Tuesday: Hold'em (33) = 9.54pm
Wednesday: 7 Card Stud (28) = 11.26pm
Thursday: Pot Limit Omaha H/L (24) = 10.25pm
Friday: 5 Card Draw (7) = 10pm

If we move everything an hour later that could mean some games run on a bit too late. Though, we could also look at altering the blind structures? e.g Does 4 and a half hours for a 28 person 7-card-stud game does seem a little long?...


I"d rather spend 4.5 hrs playing poker than watching the drivel that"s on TV most nights... if you"re playing for the money the Bunch of Fives probably wouldnt be the first choice so it"s more about enjoyment and personally I"ve thought the structure was fine and would have loved my participation in the events to have gone on longer (especially tonight ;)) I struggle for 7pm start coz I start work later, other people have to be at work earlier so might not appreciate later start... but at least they"d have the sweetner that they"d probably have made the cash the night before if it did turn out to be a problem for them.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on November 17, 2012, 01:12:31 AM

Friday: 5 Card Draw (7) = 10pm


3 hours for a 7-player tournament? You"re kidding. It took longer than the Hold-em, which had 33 players?

That suggests there"s either a problem with the structure or a problem with the players, probably the former.

There were a lot more players in the 5CD last week. It would be interesting to know how long that took.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 17, 2012, 01:16:53 AM


Friday: 5 Card Draw (7) = 10pm


3 hours for a 7-player tournament? You"re kidding. It took longer than the Hold-em, which had 33 players?

That suggests there"s either a problem with the structure or a problem with the players, probably the former.

There were a lot more players in the 5CD last week. It would be interesting to know how long that took.


Friday 9th Nov.: 5 Card Draw (20) = 10.21pm.

Just 21 minutes more.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Outlander on November 17, 2012, 01:48:30 AM

Leaderboard for week 2: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=12548

Even more miffed now having seen final table... dont mind finishing third but would have liked the chance to have finished higher... low numbers also deprived those who did take part in 5CD of a chance at Top 2 place. As I didnt cash in any of the events it was the added-value prizes which kept my interest. Had there been late reg things could have changed although I suspect Tony was probably intending to take part via late reg as well so it"s quite probable nothing would have altered. Both he and Paul were extremely consistent and are worthy winners but I"m sorry the way it turned out I do feel it was a wasted effort. Also dont see the "as per Boss Network Rules" in first announcement at bottom of thread (not that that would have made any diff as I"m not familiar with those rules anyway). Appreciate all the effort that goes into organising these events but situations like this dont help increase the number of people participating... it"s really put me off... although I hope that changes before next week comes around.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: AMRN on November 17, 2012, 08:17:49 AM

Good idea.

Though, if we start at 8pm the game will run on 1 hour later obviously (all other things being equal).

The end times of this week"s games were (number of runners in brackets):

Monday: Pot Limit Omaha (34) = 10.17pm
Tuesday: Hold'em (33) = 9.54pm
Wednesday: 7 Card Stud (28) = 11.26pm
Thursday: Pot Limit Omaha H/L (24) = 10.25pm
Friday: 5 Card Draw (7) = 10pm

If we move everything an hour later that could mean some games run on a bit too late. Though, we could also look at altering the blind structures? e.g Does 4 and a half hours for a 28 person 7-card-stud game does seem a little long?...


The Limit games will always run longer, and structures can be speeded up a bit without overly damaging the tourney, however please don"t change the NL or PL structures - they are spot on (escpecially the PLO8 structure!  ;) )

Agree with reversing the order - 5 card draw is a bit of an anomalous game to some people, and putting it up front is likely to get more runners that putting at the end when a lot of people will avoid it because they have no chance of winning the league. I would suggest putting the NLHE round at the end to try and maximise attendance.

Start time at 7 or 8 - 7 is preferable to me, but not much difference between 7 and 8 in reality.

Lastly - Boss late reg rules.... have to ask... Why?  I don"t think Stars has ever done this with late reg. Seems daft for something to be advertised with late reg, only for someone to find the registration closed immediately after the start - surely from Boss"s perspective, that"s a negative restriction on their own business?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sugar_Free on November 17, 2012, 09:40:53 AM

Firstly, I"m very sorry about the lack of league updates. That is 100% my fault. Leigh jetted off on holiday yesterday and left me in charge of updating the tables, and although it"s on my "to do" list for today, I missed it and it totally slipped my mind :(


I think I speak for most people on here when I say I"m glad to hear that it"s nothing more serious than that  :)

Does 4 and a half hours for a 28 person 7-card-stud game does seem a little long?...


Probably, although while playing it didn"t seem that long. Was a very nice structure but could probably do with being tweaked a little if we have an 8pm start.


2 votes now for 8pm starts and scrapping late reg.

edit: 3 votes (missed one from earlier in thread).


More than that......it"s discussed further in the early parts of the thread, mostly because the late reg is skewing the results.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sugar_Free on November 17, 2012, 09:46:00 AM

Play them in a different order next week.... How about Heads Up instead of one of the 5 or 7 card...?



The software can"t host Razz or HORSE tournaments, let alone a 5 handed heads up tournament
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: cincicrappykid on November 17, 2012, 10:05:04 AM
OH man couldnt reg and found out i missed out by 1 arrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggg.

Shame,  well done Paul.

Did i win anything for second?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on November 17, 2012, 10:10:12 AM

OH man couldnt reg and found out i missed out by 1 arrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggg.

Shame,  well done Paul.

Did i win anything for second?


No. Unlucky, Tony.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: cincicrappykid on November 17, 2012, 10:58:06 AM
lol
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 17, 2012, 11:52:03 AM
I leave the country for 5 minutes, and look what happens  ;)

Apologies for the confusion guys, as Matt has mentioned, the late reg rule is network driven, so we don"t have any control over that.

It"s about keeping a balance with start time and finish time, and if the general consensus is to change it, then I"m sure Matt can get that sorted.

Leigh
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 17, 2012, 11:57:58 AM
Congrats to Paul and Tony who have made the Grand Final in December.

With those two taking their seats, the final will be even grander than originally planned  ;)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: redsimon on November 17, 2012, 12:33:27 PM
Id prefer later start time, with NLHE being event 5 and draw being event 1 , might increase numbers for draw?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: NellieG on November 17, 2012, 13:04:54 PM

Just a quick update re: late reg.

On Boss late reg. comes into effect if there are more than 7 players registered (or left) in a tournament. If there are 7 or less then there is no late reg.

A quick look at the lobby with tonight"s results, shows just 7 players were registered at the time the tourney started, meaning there would be no late reg. This is correct.

It"s also worth bearing in mind, that if 8 players registered then there would be late reg. However, if at any point the number of players hits 7 (or below) then late reg. ends.


This was the first time I tried to late register as unfortunately I had visitors and only missed it by at the most 1 minute which was frustrating. However, I did get on to support who sent me an email to say "There has to be a minimum of 10 players to have late registration"

Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 17, 2012, 13:47:43 PM


Just a quick update re: late reg.

On Boss late reg. comes into effect if there are more than 7 players registered (or left) in a tournament. If there are 7 or less then there is no late reg.

A quick look at the lobby with tonight"s results, shows just 7 players were registered at the time the tourney started, meaning there would be no late reg. This is correct.

It"s also worth bearing in mind, that if 8 players registered then there would be late reg. However, if at any point the number of players hits 7 (or below) then late reg. ends.


This was the first time I tried to late register as unfortunately I had visitors and only missed it by at the most 1 minute which was frustrating. However, I did get on to support who sent me an email to say "There has to be a minimum of 10 players to have late registration"




Thanks for the heads up. That is definitely incorrect info you were told though.

It used to be 7 or more players = late reg. Now it appears Boss have changed this to 8 or more players for some reason (I need to check this with them on Monday). It"s definitely less than 10 though.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 17, 2012, 13:51:20 PM

Lastly - Boss late reg rules.... have to ask... Why?  I don"t think Stars has ever done this with late reg. Seems daft for something to be advertised with late reg, only for someone to find the registration closed immediately after the start - surely from Boss"s perspective, that"s a negative restriction on their own business?


Boss has a much smaller player pool than Stars. The reason for stating a minimum number for late reg. is to avoid situations where a player can late reg and be in the money already.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 17, 2012, 13:55:59 PM

Agree with reversing the order - 5 card draw is a bit of an anomalous game to some people, and putting it up front is likely to get more runners that putting at the end when a lot of people will avoid it because they have no chance of winning the league. I would suggest putting the NLHE round at the end to try and maximise attendance.


I like this idea. It"s too late to change the order for next week, but will look at changing the order for the week after.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: cincicrappykid on November 17, 2012, 21:24:22 PM
ooo i did win A SEAT THEN what happens if i play next week and win another .........ZZZZ??????????//
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: bear21 on November 17, 2012, 21:37:52 PM
U can play but won"t get a seat !!!
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: fandango on November 17, 2012, 22:20:47 PM

ooo i did win A SEAT THEN what happens if i play next week and win another .........ZZZZ??????????//


If you luckbox another seat  ;D.. Only 9 players will be seated at final table, luckbox another 8 players, luckbox another the rest of us might (will) request a drugs test..
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: cincicrappykid on November 17, 2012, 23:10:19 PM
does alcohol count ??  :)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: ooblio on November 17, 2012, 23:53:02 PM

does alcohol count ??  :)

Always  :P
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Swinebag on November 18, 2012, 23:26:44 PM

what happens if i play next week and win another .........ZZZZ??????????//


I quit poker?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: ooblio on November 18, 2012, 23:41:25 PM
Just won poker tourni to gibraltar, and now $3000 to Valencia :)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 19, 2012, 11:11:49 AM

Just won poker tourni to gibraltar, and now $3000 to Valencia :)



Wow, very nice! :) What site?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: cincicrappykid on November 19, 2012, 19:07:45 PM


what happens if i play next week and win another .........ZZZZ??????????//


I quit poker?
hhhahaahahahaah target set lmao :)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: AJDUK on November 20, 2012, 20:57:42 PM
First time i"ve joined in on this and there seems to be no feedback?
A league is pointless without a league table.
Enjoying the challenge though.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be) on November 20, 2012, 22:18:52 PM
I"ll help out a little... had some time and this should be the table of week 3 after 2 events.
(sorry for the layout; didn"t know how to do that, so I just did it my way :)

52  bobbymouse
49  AJDUK34
47  Kayden2012
43  BobbyS22
42  curlarge55
42  camkingEoE
40  Merkland.
36  lubandige
34  EATLARD
32  Penny4Them
31  TONYTRIPPS
31  AMRNapat
31  cormach111
30  Gupp9y
28  _Nighthawk
26  sm3llyp00p
25  5ugarfree
24  xKWN34x
23  suzanne66
23  nomug
23  GFC_Fan
23  Hammer1te
22  Mooncat2
21  Censword
19  jaytee1971
18  Roobarb10
18  NemetheOrc
18  bethany1
17  74sNuts!
15  fatblokey2
14  147thinsy
12  stupidsite
12  azkals
12  1PLAYTRASH
09  BigBlin
08  rubyalfie1
08  FFS_REALLY
08  fandango41
04  phelan88
04  NCFCAPAT
02  U.T.U.B.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: camking on November 20, 2012, 22:49:14 PM
A few thoughts.

I"m enjoying the Bunch of Fives (even when getting wickedly outdrawn) although sometimes I forget to play.

Why can"t late registration just be for the first level or first two levels, thus giving the slightly-late people enough grace to get in, without making it silly?  I don"t like late registration at all, really, even though I have taken advantage of it myself due to forgetting about the tournament (I"d need 120 minute late reg or more some nights!)   However, I don"t see why it has to be a whole HOUR as it seems to be on all sorts of sites nowadays. 

I would really like registration to open more than 24 hours in advance - it"s awkward when it"s only 24 hours.  That applies to the league games as well as the 5"s.

I like having a range of different games.  I don"t mind what order the games are in.  It doesn"t matter if you don"t know the games - IIRC somebody won a WSOP bracelet recently who spent the breaks reading up on strategy for the game - which he hadn"t played before.

I agree that having an up to date league table is important for the enjoyment of the game and so people know what they"re doing.  I loved watching the Premier League Poker final group heats where players were consulting printouts of standings and points to work out whether or not it was correct to fold aces pre-flop etc. (and the lecture that Dwan gave Cates was comedy gold too, but I digress)

And finally, I nearly choked at the suggestion of a 5-handed heads-up tourney.  Thanks, Scousebill  :o ;D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 20, 2012, 23:03:20 PM
Hi Dodgyend,

Thanks very much for posting table. Much appreciated!

I have just arrived in St. Kitts for the Caribbean Poker Party, meaning I"ve been off the grid for the last 24+ hours.

I"ve just sorted wifi for my room, so will post everything up tomorrow (and the following days).


Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: mousebob on November 20, 2012, 23:16:17 PM
ST KITTS !!!!

Blatant brag post.   ::)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: AJDUK on November 21, 2012, 01:18:10 AM

I"ll help out a little...


Thanks Tom, you"re a star  :)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Waz1892 on November 21, 2012, 03:02:00 AM

ST KITTS !!!!

Blatant brag post.   ::)


niceeeeeee
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be) on November 21, 2012, 22:43:08 PM
And standings after 3 events:


77  bobbymouse
70  Kayden2012
63  BobbyS22
60  lubandige
56  AJDUK34
56  camkingEoE
53  TONYTRIPPS
52  Merkland.
49  Hammer1te
48  curlarge55
45  Roobarb10
44  cormach111
42  AMRNapat
42  xKWN34x
40  Penny4Them
39  Gupp9y
39  nomug
34  EATLARD
32  _Nighthawk
31  Censword
31  azkals
29  fandango41
27  5ugarfree
26  sm3llyp00p
23  suzanne66
23  GFC_Fan
22  Mooncat2
21  NemetheOrc
20  jaytee1971
18  bethany1
17  74sNuts!
17  stupidsite
17  andantemot
15  fatblokey2
15  Travmint
14  147thinsy
12  1PLAYTRASH
09  BigBlin
08  rubyalfie1
08  FFS_REALLY
04  phelan88
04  NCFCAPAT
02  U.T.U.B.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Hammerite on November 21, 2012, 23:08:12 PM
Nice work Dodgy, do you happen to know how many runners were in leg 2 please.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: AJDUK on November 22, 2012, 00:58:29 AM
26
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Swinebag on November 22, 2012, 07:49:44 AM
No final tables or cashes this week and still 3rd.

Looks like I"m well set to bubble this week.

TT is looking pretty determined to get me to quit poker as well:(
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be) on November 22, 2012, 07:53:23 AM

No final tables or cashes this week and still 3rd.

Looks like I"m well set to bubble this week.

TT is looking pretty determined to get me to quit poker as well:(


Lol, same story. I"m 2nd and didn"t manage to cash. Bubbled the money, bubbled the final table...
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Hammerite on November 22, 2012, 09:21:01 AM

26


Cheers Andy, I think that puts me on 50 then, perhaps I should have played on Monday but such is life  :(
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be) on November 22, 2012, 09:45:40 AM


26


Cheers Andy, I think that puts me on 50 then, perhaps I should have played on Monday but such is life  :(


I"ll check that later today when I"m back home!
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Hammerite on November 22, 2012, 09:57:32 AM
No worries mate, I was not knocking you, it"s only a point and I won"t be playing on Friday so I can"t win anyway, it was just that if mine is wrong then others who potentiaaly may win maybe wrong, that is all. Cheers
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 22, 2012, 14:05:45 PM
Tom, appreciate the tables for the past few days.  I"m back in the UK late this evening, so will pick this up on Friday.

Apologies to everyone that the tables have not been updated daily over the past week. Expectations have not been met, and for that I apologise to all those playing.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be) on November 22, 2012, 17:28:37 PM

No worries mate, I was not knocking you, it"s only a point and I won"t be playing on Friday so I can"t win anyway, it was just that if mine is wrong then others who potentiaaly may win maybe wrong, that is all. Cheers


No worries, I checked and according to what I wrote down there were 25 runners on Tuesday, and not 26... So the standings should be correct I think.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: duke3016 on November 22, 2012, 17:31:34 PM

And standings after 3 events:
77  bobbymouse
70  Kayden2012
63  BobbyS22
60  lubandige
56  AJDUK34
56  camkingEoE
53  TONYTRIPPS
52  Merkland.
49  Hammer1te
48  curlarge55


Oh decisions do I toughen it out and play or do I hit the aquarium  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 22, 2012, 17:42:42 PM
Echo what Leigh says above. Unfortunately with all 3 of us (Leigh, Des and I) out of the country at the exact same time (in 3 different continents) it"s been logistically very difficult to keep this up to date. Ultimately it was my responsibility though, so I apologise for not being able to.

The table is now up to date here: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=12548.0 (I"m adding real names to the board now).
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on November 22, 2012, 20:55:10 PM
Bump. Thanks to DodgyEnd who PMed me to draw attention to a mistake I"d made in the table. Have fixed the error and posted the table again. I"m not going to be able to get online again now until tomorrow so I hope it"s right (Caribbean Poker Party Main Event starts in 5 mins!).
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be) on November 22, 2012, 21:49:02 PM
Thx Matt, now it should be correct. I also had a few mistakes where 4 players had 1 point less than they should have had.
Good luck over there!
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: cincicrappykid on November 23, 2012, 07:32:47 AM
No score showing for tonytripps in plh/l came 5th ??
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 23, 2012, 08:06:22 AM

No score showing for tonytripps in plh/l came 5th ??



I"ll have a look in a while for you Tony.  Have to go and collect two excited Labradors who we haven"t seen for a week, it"s all about priorities, and once they are sorted, APAT is next on my list  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be) on November 23, 2012, 11:36:41 AM
the results that you see for PLO H/L is a copy of the scores for the 7CS... and you"ll see that the total score is the score of the first 3 tournaments. So disregard the points for PLO H/L. Today the table will be updated by Leigh; if not I can quickly post it around 5pm. Because I"m in a fight to secure top 2 I made the calculations myself and will post them tonight if needed.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 23, 2012, 14:12:27 PM
Leaderboard has been updated.

If anyone has any questions around any of this weeks scoring, just let me know. (If it"s why have I not scored many points, have a look in a mirror, and you should see the answer  ;D )
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 23, 2012, 21:51:28 PM
Congratulations to Tom Stikboer and Rob Swindells, who both grab a seat in the Grand Final.

Bunch of Fives takes a two week break now whilst we hold the UK event in Stoke and the UK Online Series.

Two more chances though to get a Grand Final seat, starting again on Monday 10th December.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Swinebag on November 23, 2012, 22:07:17 PM
get the boom in there.

No cashes, no final tables but a top 2 finish

Ul Bob, who was crushing it for the first 3 games. And well played TT, who nearly ended my poker career (but not quite)

didn"t think I was doing anything after losing my connection for ages. Still isn"t right now. The only thing running well is the apat forum..............How times have changed  :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: cincicrappykid on November 24, 2012, 12:48:15 PM

get the boom in there.

No cashes, no final tables but a top 2 finish

Ul Bob, who was crushing it for the first 3 games. And well played TT, who nearly ended my poker career (but not quite)

didn"t think I was doing anything after losing my connection for ages. Still isn"t right now. The only thing running well is the apat forum..............How times have changed  :D :D :D :D :D

HAAHHA Cheers Rob realised i could in fact end your career so took my foot of the pedal....... :)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be) on November 25, 2012, 11:38:03 AM
unlucky for bobbymouse as he was indeed having a great first 3 days... I had problems with my connection on Friday (at a friend"s house) so I was afraid of not being able to defend my top spot... but my lead was big enough, so I"m glad to make the final!!
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: mousebob on November 25, 2012, 15:26:41 PM
Simple.
My brain got fried.
Not for the first time.
Far too many cards.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: camking on November 26, 2012, 00:25:18 AM

Simple.  My brain got fried.
Not for the first time.
Far too many cards.


You need two additional syllables in the second line to make your Haiku correct  ::)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 09, 2012, 16:37:21 PM
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: HOLDorFOLD on December 09, 2012, 17:09:58 PM
Loving the 8pm start (no late reg) ... makes sense  ;D

Little request ... for the last week, any chance we can drop the Omaha Hi-Lo and replace it with Razz?  Would be  good mix  One Hi Game (PLO), one low game (Razz), One memory Game (Stud), One No Limit Game and finally the one not so head f**k as Omaha Hi-Lo game (Draw)  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 09, 2012, 17:16:57 PM

Loving the 8pm start (no late reg) ... makes sense  ;D

Little request ... for the last week, any chance we can drop the Omaha Hi-Lo and replace it with Razz?  Would be  good mix  One Hi Game (PLO), one low game (Razz), One memory Game (Stud), One No Limit Game and finally the one not so head f**k as Omaha Hi-Lo game (Draw)  ;D ;D ;D


I"d have to check if Razz is an option on the software, and the Week 5 tourneys are already in the system.

I"ll bear your request in mind when we next run Bunch Of Fives (Or any similar series of tourneys)   ;D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Swinebag on December 09, 2012, 18:14:05 PM
BOSS does not do Razz
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: HOLDorFOLD on December 09, 2012, 18:19:49 PM

BOSS does not do Razz


:(


Omaha Hi-Lo it is then ... will just avoid pots against AMRN and MintTrav  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on December 09, 2012, 23:50:56 PM

ALL TOURNAMENTS START AT 8PM, WITH NO LATE REGISTRATION


Further to the above, please note the following:

Boss closes tourney reg. exactly 4 (four) minutes before the tourney starts. So, please, please register before 7.56pm if you want to play!
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 10, 2012, 12:32:55 PM
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Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sef on December 10, 2012, 18:40:55 PM
Played nothing buty league games on different sites for the past few weeks so decided to get my finger out this week and join in this promo :D With 5 hours sleep in 3 days i dont hold out much hope for tonight but my donation is in ;)

Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Laxie on December 10, 2012, 19:23:25 PM
I thought these started today, but only 3 listed in the lobby for the week as far as I can tell on 11th, 13th & 14th.  Are the others hiding some other place or what?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Laxie on December 10, 2012, 19:24:41 PM
Disregard...I"d "filters" ticked.  lol  Sigh.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: duke3016 on December 10, 2012, 19:25:40 PM

Disregard...I"d "filters" ticked.  lol  Sigh.


Disregarded  8)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sugar_Free on December 10, 2012, 20:03:41 PM
Interesting to see that registration is still open
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: fandango on December 10, 2012, 20:09:10 PM

Interesting to see that registration is still open


Hehe we where discussing that at our table aswell!!
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on December 10, 2012, 20:13:54 PM

Interesting to see that registration is still open


and highly annoying.

I"ll get Boss to fix this for tomorrow, but really not sure how they could have mis-interpreted "No late Registration for these tournaments" as meaning that I wanted late reg? Confused...

So, for tonight, it looks like there is indeed late reg.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on December 10, 2012, 20:44:58 PM
Matt, you get a tick and a star for effort re the 5CD, but the consensus on my table is the structure is making this game incredibly boring. We could do with quickening it up a bit.

Also, could you reprogram the s/w so I don"t miss every single draw - you could extend this to the 7CS too please.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on December 10, 2012, 20:50:33 PM

Matt, you get a tick and a star for effort re the 5CD, but the consensus on my table is the structure is making this game incredibly boring. We could do with quickening it up a bit.


ty.

Our table has been carnage,  so maybe it"s your table draw rather than structure? Blinds are getting pretty big now too...

Also, could you reprogram the s/w so I don"t miss every single draw - you could extend this to the 7CS too please.


no.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: dwh103 on December 10, 2012, 20:56:01 PM

Matt, you get a tick and a star for effort re the 5CD, but the consensus on my table is the structure is making this game incredibly boring. We could do with quickening it up a bit.

Also, could you reprogram the s/w so I don"t miss every single draw - you could extend this to the 7CS too please.


Got to give action to get action, nit.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on December 10, 2012, 20:56:14 PM


Matt, you get a tick and a star for effort re the 5CD, but the consensus on my table is the structure is making this game incredibly boring. We could do with quickening it up a bit.


ty.

Our table has been carnage,  so maybe it"s your table draw rather than structure? Blinds are getting pretty big now too...


Actually, you could be right.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: HOLDorFOLD on December 10, 2012, 21:19:40 PM
Totally pwnd

Memo to Leigh ... as per my previous request, can we now drop the 5 card instead and add snap?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on December 10, 2012, 21:20:17 PM



Matt, you get a tick and a star for effort re the 5CD, but the consensus on my table is the structure is making this game incredibly boring. We could do with quickening it up a bit.


ty.

Our table has been carnage,  so maybe it"s your table draw rather than structure? Blinds are getting pretty big now too...


Actually, you could be right.


Though, I"ve never really understood the point of a 25/50 level on a 10k/15k starting stack, or indeed a 10/20 level for a 5k stack. Do you really need to start with 250+ bbs?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on December 10, 2012, 21:23:39 PM




Matt, you get a tick and a star for effort re the 5CD, but the consensus on my table is the structure is making this game incredibly boring. We could do with quickening it up a bit.


ty.

Our table has been carnage,  so maybe it"s your table draw rather than structure? Blinds are getting pretty big now too...


Actually, you could be right.


Though, I"ve never really understood the point of a 25/50 level on a 10k/15k starting stack, or indeed a 10/20 level for a 5k stack. Do you really need to start with 250+ bbs?


You"ll get used to APAT players after a while.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: dwh103 on December 10, 2012, 21:56:37 PM
Ah, well that reminded me of the special dark place in my heart I reserve for my utter hatred of 5 card draw.  :"(
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: monkeyman on December 11, 2012, 10:05:50 AM
The tournament lobby seems to be confused about whether tonight"s contest is Omaha Hi or Hi/Lo. Which is it?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sugar_Free on December 11, 2012, 10:18:37 AM

The tournament lobby seems to be confused about whether tonight"s contest is Omaha Hi or Hi/Lo. Which is it?


Tourney lobby last night said PLO Hi Lo too. If they keep it like that then they are guaranteed to get one right  ;)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 11, 2012, 10:51:31 AM
It"s Omaha Hi/Lo tonight.

OMH = Omaha

OML = Omaha H/L
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on December 11, 2012, 17:10:12 PM


The tournament lobby seems to be confused about whether tonight"s contest is Omaha Hi or Hi/Lo. Which is it?


Tourney lobby last night said PLO Hi Lo too. If they keep it like that then they are guaranteed to get one right  ;)


Thanks for the heads up. It looks like the text in the lobby was messed up for last night. Although the game was correctly listed as "5CD", the blurb in the lobby for that specific tourney said "Omaha Hi/Lo". Tonight"s blurb says "Pot Limit Omaha", but it is actually "Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo".

I have emailed Boss asking them to check and correct the lobby text as per my original request. Watch this space.

Likewise, I have asked them to correct the Late Reg. (there isn"t supposed to be any).

Hopefully they will fix both issues in time for tonight"s games.


Update: Late. reg. removed from all BunchOfFive tourneys. Make sure you are registered before 7.56pm if you want to play tonight!

Lobby text issues have been fixed for all tourneys (there were 2 displaying incorrect info) bar tonight"s (in order to fix onight"s it would require the tourney being cancelled and set-up again = better to leave it "as is" - it"s such a small issue anyway).
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: technolog on December 11, 2012, 19:19:14 PM
The contributor of the first two letters of Jaxie is coming out of APAT retirement for one night only. If someone wanted to pop up in a chat window with some Omahahaha tips, it may avoid some embarrassment later.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Laxie on December 12, 2012, 19:45:00 PM
Only 11 minutes left to reg for tonight"s tourney.  18 of us in so far  :)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on December 12, 2012, 20:52:17 PM
The same story every night -waiting for slow players to do something. I really don"t care any more whether they bet, check or fold. Anything at all, just get on with it without all the long pauses. I"m going back to playing live during the week.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sef on December 12, 2012, 23:01:38 PM
Missed it by 2 mins, got home and logged in for 7.58pm :(
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Sef on December 12, 2012, 23:04:31 PM

The same story every night -waiting for slow players to do something. I really don"t care any more whether they bet, check or fold. Anything at all, just get on with it without all the long pauses. I"m going back to playing live during the week.


You have to remember that a lot of players multitable so it affects the time it takes to get back to that table. As frustrating as it is, it is the curse of online poker.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on December 12, 2012, 23:20:35 PM


The same story every night -waiting for slow players to do something. I really don"t care any more whether they bet, check or fold. Anything at all, just get on with it without all the long pauses. I"m going back to playing live during the week.


You have to remember that a lot of players multitable so it affects the time it takes to get back to that table. As frustrating as it is, it is the curse of online poker.


Well they shouldn"t if they"re not capable of keeping up with the game.

TBH I"m not sure that that is the reason.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Matt D on December 13, 2012, 18:26:02 PM

Missed it by 2 mins, got home and logged in for 7.58pm :(


Argh, unlucky! :(

I think moving onwards, we may say 8pm start with 15 mins of late reg = best of both worlds. Of course, then there will be someone who gets home at 8.15pm and misses registration by a few seconds, but there has to be a cut off point somewhere.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: camking on December 14, 2012, 01:38:01 AM

I think moving onwards, we may say 8pm start with 15 mins of late reg = best of both worlds.


I support this idea completely.  I wish more tournaments (on all sites) would have late registration for just a short period, too.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: SirPercival on December 14, 2012, 09:01:22 AM
JakeRomus has been outed  >:(
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on December 14, 2012, 09:05:38 AM

JakeRomus has been outed  >:(

Quite right too! Would have taken you out earlier if I"d known!
Played one cashed one.  :)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 14, 2012, 10:26:12 AM

JakeRomus has been outed  >:(


I left it for a few days.  I assumed it was you after our convo in Stoke, but did have to log into the database, just to be certain.   ;D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: SirPercival on December 14, 2012, 11:53:37 AM


JakeRomus has been outed  >:(


I left it for a few days.  I assumed it was you after our convo in Stoke, but did have to log into the database, just to be certain.   ;D


I must say that talking to Ger about whether or not he liked a drink was the highlight, closly followed by trying hard to tilt John Murray.  ;D
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: fandango on December 14, 2012, 12:00:14 PM

JakeRomus has been outed  >:(


Haha was doing my skull in.. I thought you was an " outsider".. BUSTED!!
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: MintTrav on December 14, 2012, 22:16:00 PM
Top 3 all crash out early. Nellie started 4 points ahead of me and Stuart 9 ahead and they finish 15th and 14th, so I need 5th to draw level.

So I don"t even try to win - just nit it out for a min-cash and finish...........6th - for my second 3rd place of the series.

That"s the way to do it!
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: SirPercival on December 14, 2012, 22:21:57 PM

Top 3 all crash out early. Nellie started 4 points ahead of me and Stuart 9 ahead and they finish 15th and 14th, so I need 5th to draw level.

So I don"t even try to win - just nit it out for a min-cash and finish...........6th - for my second 3rd place of the series.

That"s the way to do it!


Unlucky John.

My strategy was just to keep ahead of the players that could catch me or to far behind was good too. Very quickly that became only you.

All was going well until I run KK into AA. Then I had a quick look at the points and guessed I was back to the grind next week. Very surprised to come back and find you out in 6th.

I guess being the bubble boy for 3 times this week was worth it after all.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: NellieG on December 14, 2012, 22:56:24 PM


Top 3 all crash out early. Nellie started 4 points ahead of me and Stuart 9 ahead and they finish 15th and 14th, so I need 5th to draw level.

So I don"t even try to win - just nit it out for a min-cash and finish...........6th - for my second 3rd place of the series.

That"s the way to do it!


Unlucky John.

My strategy was just to keep ahead of the players that could catch me or to far behind was good too. Very quickly that became only you.

All was going well until I run KK into AA. Then I had a quick look at the points and guessed I was back to the grind next week. Very surprised to come back and find you out in 6th.

I guess being the bubble boy for 3 times this week was worth it after all.


Agree very unlucky there. I had KK busted twice with very poor hands in between. A lot of sharks out there tonight too!!!!
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: nosey-p on December 15, 2012, 09:35:51 AM
If Stuart and Matt have won a seat then I will have to give it a go next week   ;)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: nosey-p on December 17, 2012, 20:02:21 PM
no game tonight? cannot find it

Found Games for Tue, Thur and Fri
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 17, 2012, 20:08:46 PM

no game tonight? cannot find it


Started at 8pm with 20 runners (no late reg)

5 Card Draw.

Have you checked your filters ?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: nosey-p on December 17, 2012, 20:10:45 PM
what a idiot, thanks Leigh, no late reg !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 21, 2012, 10:12:20 AM
For anyone scratching their head at the Bunch of Fives Leaderboard overnight, I"m pleased to report that the experiment as to whether the Bunch Of Fives Leaderboard could be updated correctly after being down the pub at the Christmas Quiz has now been completed.



FAIL !!!!!!!!!


;D (Fixed now)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Laxie on December 21, 2012, 12:00:55 PM
Pisshead.  You"re supposed to be our good example, leader type guy.  What hope do we have if you start having fun too?  Just not good enough.  
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: monkeyman on December 21, 2012, 20:13:23 PM
Just in case anyone was wondering why the guy in 2nd place after 4  legs of week 5 of this little gem didn"t turn up to play leg 5..............This was my first week back at work after a bout of pneumonia, I was knackered, fell asleep on the sofa and woke up at 8.01pm to find that I hadn"t bloody well remembered to enter in advance. FFS, that really just about bloody well sums up my poker year. Oh Poo.    
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 21, 2012, 20:20:35 PM

Just in case anyone was wondering why the guy in 2nd place after 4  legs of week 5 of this little gem didn"t turn up to play leg 5..............This was my first week back at work after a bout of pneumonia, I was knackered, fell asleep on the sofa and woke up at 8.01pm to find that I hadn"t bloody well remembered to enter in advance. FFS, that really just about bloody well sums up my poker year. Oh Poo.    


Gutted for you Simon, that"s really unfortunate.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: monkeyman on December 21, 2012, 20:32:22 PM


Just in case anyone was wondering why the guy in 2nd place after 4  legs of week 5 of this little gem didn"t turn up to play leg 5..............This was my first week back at work after a bout of pneumonia, I was knackered, fell asleep on the sofa and woke up at 8.01pm to find that I hadn"t bloody well remembered to enter in advance. FFS, that really just about bloody well sums up my poker year. Oh Poo.    


Gutted for you Simon, that"s really unfortunate.


TBH, probably more dumb or disorganised than unfortunate. Only one person to blame and that"s me. Good luck to those taking part tonight anyway
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Outlander on December 21, 2012, 23:44:13 PM


Just in case anyone was wondering why the guy in 2nd place after 4  legs of week 5 of this little gem didn"t turn up to play leg 5..............This was my first week back at work after a bout of pneumonia, I was knackered, fell asleep on the sofa and woke up at 8.01pm to find that I hadn"t bloody well remembered to enter in advance. FFS, that really just about bloody well sums up my poker year. Oh Poo.    


Gutted for you Simon, that"s really unfortunate.


I wondered Simon... commiserations mate, although it did come as a bit of a relief. In your absence I managed to hold on to top spot but you know the funny thing... I"m working on Sunday so would have little chance of making 8pm start let alone the 7pm start. Which means having got the seat in the final, I"ll probably be blinded out before I get home... poker"s a cruel game, even when you win you lose... a real microcosm of life!!! Still, it"s not the winning is it, it"s the taking part... merry christmas. Already looking forward to the next round of the Bunch of Fives.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: monkeyman on December 22, 2012, 09:55:19 AM



Just in case anyone was wondering why the guy in 2nd place after 4  legs of week 5 of this little gem didn"t turn up to play leg 5..............This was my first week back at work after a bout of pneumonia, I was knackered, fell asleep on the sofa and woke up at 8.01pm to find that I hadn"t bloody well remembered to enter in advance. FFS, that really just about bloody well sums up my poker year. Oh Poo.    


Gutted for you Simon, that"s really unfortunate.



I wondered Simon... commiserations mate, although it did come as a bit of a relief. In your absence I managed to hold on to top spot but you know the funny thing... I"m working on Sunday so would have little chance of making 8pm start let alone the 7pm start. Which means having got the seat in the final, I"ll probably be blinded out before I get home... poker"s a cruel game, even when you win you lose... a real microcosm of life!!! Still, it"s not the winning is it, it"s the taking part... merry christmas. Already looking forward to the next round of the Bunch of Fives.



I think you were a nailed-on certainty to go through from the point when I donated my stack to you in the Omaha Hi/lo. 2nd place would have been nice though. I"ll keep my fingers crossed for you that you can manage to get home in time to have a serious go at winning sunday as well.
  The upswing is only just around the corner, but in the mean time, I run so bad I"ll have to live with being the
anti-Fandango    
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Outlander on December 23, 2012, 21:54:22 PM
Congrats on the win, Paul! You know you"re a river rat though, don"t you, not a Guppy! Still a main event seat is not a bad consolation and really enjoyed the last week"s poker. Thanks Des, Leigh and Matt for organising the BofF. Look forward to the next one.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Gup9y on December 23, 2012, 22:24:47 PM
Thanks mate. It was a great tournament and I really enjoyed it. Glad I won and look forward to the next set of battles lol.

I wish all my friends from APAT a Merry Christmas and a Great New Year. I would say lets hope it"s a white one but how could I lol.

All the best to each and everyone of you.

Paul
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Santino67 on December 24, 2012, 00:56:03 AM
Congratulations Paul, excellent result and nice reward mate  8)
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Gup9y on December 24, 2012, 02:02:53 AM
Thanks El Capitano
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: monkeyman on December 27, 2012, 20:19:22 PM
Any more bunch of fives planned?
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 27, 2012, 20:46:12 PM

Any more bunch of fives planned?


Certainly hope so.

Got a few nice promotions to announce over the next day or two, ready for January.
Title: Re: APAT Bunch Of Fives
Post by: SirPercival on December 28, 2012, 10:23:56 AM


Any more bunch of fives planned?


Certainly hope so.

Got a few nice promotions to announce over the next day or two, ready for January.


A poorly disguised coming soon post IMO  ;) ;