Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Poker Forum => Online Archive => Online Poker => APAT Online => Topic started by: Foggy on November 27, 2012, 14:17:10 PM
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I have been a member of APAT since it"s inception, and would like to state " The software is the worst I have encountered in all my years of playing online poker", we have over the years moved from one site to another, but the current situation, leaves me speechless!
Nothing further to add, but would love to set up a vote on this to see what the other members thoughts are?
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What would a vote accomplish?
The software may not be to everyone"s liking ... but for me it"s enjoyment of playing with the APAT community that overides any thoughts I have on whatever site we are playing on.
:)
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I find it difficult to believe that you haven"t come across the network software before.
However, if you choose not to play that"s fair enough. Myself, I don"t but that"s for other reasons.
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What would a vote accomplish?
The software may not be to everyone"s liking ... but for me it"s enjoyment of playing with the APAT community that overides any thoughts I have on whatever site we are playing on.
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+1... I also am not a great lover of the software. but as im a greater lover of APAT this is not a issue :)
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Hate the BOSS platform, and would not play on it if APAT weren"t there. I don"t play on it because it is a great platform, or because I have a liking of the client software - I play on it because I want to be involved with the APAT games and community.
I don"t think there are many on here that would say they like the software, or that they play on it as their preferred option..... like me, they all play on it because they all enjoy playing the APAT games.
There"s no point moaning about it - it is what it is. That said, there is nothing to stop people putting forward structured requests for change (ie the silly H4H scenario) - I know that Matt does what he can with BOSS to seek improvements, and that our feedback can only help.
Really don"t know what a vote would achieve.... yes we can all vote that Pokerstars has a better interface than BOSS. But so what?
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Sorry, my vote would be to move again to a different platform. They are obviously making money on the back of our deposits, entrance fees, rake. Lets pay it to a provider that has decent software and makes the whole experience of playing online better. I note the comments on playing with other APAT members, but this happens wherever we play.
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Sorry, my vote would be to move again to a different platform. They are obviously making money on the back of our deposits, entrance fees, rake. Lets pay it to a provider that has decent software and makes the whole experience of playing online better. I note the comments on playing with other APAT members, but this happens wherever we play.
I"m sure someone else will come along to word it better than I am about to ... but surely, having been a member since inception you"ll know that APAT swallows costs with site hosting/Venue payments/value added online tournaments/value added seats at live games etc.
In order to survive and offer APAT members added value/great structured deep stack tournaments (bearing in mind this season being the first where standard rake has had to be applied to tournies and tbh amazing how many years we were able to be offered it rake free) ... these costs have to come from somewhere ... sponsorship. It"s not a case of "let"s just move the games to another network ... APAT are always striving to get the best possible deal in order to offer it"s members added value. I"ll play where they go.
I"m personally grateful that we still have APAT running - especially in harder times all round.
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Sorry, my vote would be to move again to a different platform. They are obviously making money on the back of our deposits, entrance fees, rake. Lets pay it to a provider that has decent software and makes the whole experience of playing online better. I note the comments on playing with other APAT members, but this happens wherever we play.
You do realise that it"s not that simple...don"t you?
At the moment, APAT is making that money with, (I presume) a proportion going to BOSS and that is funding APAT going forwards.
Could it be improved, of course, and I have no doubts that this is high on the agenda for Matt/Des/Leigh but these things tend to move glacially (if at all).
At the moment, I can only say...don"t **** where you eat....it"s all very well to discuss shortcomings but let"s be careful about not throwing our toys out of the the pram and the baby with the bathwater.
OK, that"s enough metaphors / cliches from me
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Try playing on ipoker atm, tbh Boss is not the best but it ain"t all that bad either and the holdem tourneys and cash games are really soft.
Seems to me that game selection is a more important criteria in choosing where to play.
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Remember Betfair?
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The whole point of the card room is to make money. This (I would assume) helps make APAT more attractive to sponsors, helps fund live events and pays for some of the added value we all enjoy playing for. It allows Des and the rest of the team to actually run APAT. So APAT is a business model not something that is just there for our enjoyment. Yes our enjoyment is important as the business model fails without us, it"s customers, but if the business fails to make money (or at least cover its costs) there is no more APAT.
Now let"s be fair, it is no secret that the BOSS software could be improved a lot. It isn"t Pokerstars, but that does not matter. I am not going to go and play a large volume on there tbh but I will play a small amount of cash games each month and the APAT events on there to support APAT, and yes, play with the APAT community. I know that by doing this I am helping in a tiny way to ensure the continuation of APAT and the live events. The fact that there is great added value to win in these things does not hurt either. I think a slightly clunky piece of software is actually a small price to pay for the massive benefits we get. At the end of the day the software is not even that bad, we are only playing a simple card game. Are there really any other options that are any better. The only one is ipoker and personally I would not want to see an APAT card room on that network (Blonde Poker Cardroom anyone?).
The only vote that counts is that of Des, although I am sure he would take the communities views into consideration, he has to have a profitable business to ensure he is giving the members the best possible experience, and most would say go with whatever gives APAT the best deal. Knowing Des he will have already tied this up, the responses in this thread seem to back this up. So I don"t think a vote would not actually achieve anything in this case.
The discussion is a good one though.
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Remember Betfair?
Now THAT was a dire site to play on!
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Try playing on ipoker atm, tbh Boss is not the best but it ain"t all that bad either and the holdem tourneys and cash games are really soft.
Seems to me that game selection is a more important criteria in choosing where to play.
Pretty much my thoughts.
Sure stars/tilt have the best software, but the games are so much tougher.
I actually think that BOSS is one of the better "minor league" skins that I have played on
stars/tilt > Party > Boss > 888 > ipoker > ongame > entraction etc...
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Great discussion and while I"m rarely a fan of the style of opening post that Chris has posted, I"m sure the message in it is sincere.
I can"t really respond now as I"d probably need an hour to do so, but I can tell you that this is a topic that is continually on our agenda when Leigh, Matt and I have our weekly meeting.
I"ll try to post my thoughts on this thread this evening.
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Great discussion and while I"m rarely a fan of the style of opening post that Chris has posted, I"m sure the message in it is sincere.
I can"t really respond now as I"d probably need an hour to do so, but I can tell you that this is a topic that is continually on our agenda when Leigh, Matt and I have our weekly meeting.
I"ll try to post my thoughts on this thread this evening.
I might run a book on the number of **** is this post. ;D
Seriously though, if I racked up the number of hours spent over the past few months with regard to the software, it would be a scary number.
As Des has eluded to, it is such a complex subject, but well worth a discussion with members. Just off out to get some popcorn in anticipation of Des's post. ;)
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Just in from work and its probably too late for me to get in to this topic tonight. Will be travelling tomorrow, but will post from Stoke over the weekend. It could well become a popcorn thread ::)
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Just in from work and its probably too late for me to get in to this topic tonight. Will be travelling tomorrow, but will post from Stoke over the weekend. It could well become a popcorn thread ::)
Posting some important response when everyone is in Stoke for the weekend..... As a member of a Labour government once said so infamously, it"s a good day to hide bad news..... hmmmmmm ;)
See you in Stoke :)
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Just in from work and its probably too late for me to get in to this topic tonight. Will be travelling tomorrow, but will post from Stoke over the weekend. It could well become a popcorn thread ::)
Posting some important response when everyone is in Stoke for the weekend..... As a member of a Labour government once said so infamously, it"s a good day to hide bad news..... hmmmmmm ;)
See you in Stoke :)
Erm, if I wanted to hide news, releasing it on a day when I"m surrounded by members would seem a pretty flawed strategy! :)
Looking forward to Stoke very much, see you there.
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Sure, Boss has problems but they are outweighed by so many things on the two skins(?) where I have an interest in playing.
Can"t imagine the software getting any sort of major change any time soon so we put up with the occasional blip when changing tables; the weird H4H routine; being sat a a table of two when late regging into a tourney with 32 runners; having to minimise the add-on and tourney status drop downs to be able to see seats 1&2"s cards amongst others.
But they are manageable and the benefits of playing on the two skins far outweigh them IMO.
My one issue, which I can"t see being resolved any time, is wanting to play both APAT & DTD events at the same time. Would be good to play the Bunch of Fives and a DTD satellite at the same time without the DTD sats being opened out to the entire network.
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Boss is far from perfect, but prefer playing there to IPoker and OnGame, so definitely not the worst for me. When I factor in positives like the rakefree Sunday tourney, it would take a lot more than the H4H overkill (my biggest issue) to put me off.
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You think we have problems.
I"m due to play the final leg of the Ninja Poker League over on iPoker tonight. Started at 7:30pm.
65 players pre-regged for this, major server problems, only one player seems to be able to log onto the site at the moment, and they are doing a good job of hoovering up the blinds as quickly as possible. All other tables are merely passing blinds between themselves with everyone sat out.
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been waiting to play the Hendon Mob on Genting
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65 players pre-regged for this, major server problems, only one player seems to be able to log onto the site at the moment, and they are doing a good job of hoovering up the blinds as quickly as possible. All other tables are merely passing blinds between themselves with everyone sat out.
oops 8)
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65 players pre-regged for this, major server problems, only one player seems to be able to log onto the site at the moment, and they are doing a good job of hoovering up the blinds as quickly as possible. All other tables are merely passing blinds between themselves with everyone sat out.
oops 8)
So, the league game on Ninja poker ran last night instead. At 7pm, same network problems, no one could get in. By 7:50pm, the problem was resolved and those that were sat out could sit down, and anyone else could late reg, so they decided that the result would stand.
One of the comments on the thread that was growing by the second about this stated, and I quote :-
"i nominate microgaming or the network DTD is on...i am starting to get really annoyed with ipoker"
So, that network that DTD is on would be the same one APAT is on.
Unfortunately, all of this nonsense this week means they have had to move the 2nd chance STT that all leg winners get to play in until tonight, the one night this week I can"t play. (Blatant, I won a league leg brag, I know).
I"ve tried to put myself in their shoes as what I would do if this sort of thing happened with an APAT event, and due to the timings that link in the league with other promos, I don"t see they have any other choice, just frustrating that I lose out again on something I have supported.
But, that aside, at least our network is stable. ;)
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65 players pre-regged for this, major server problems, only one player seems to be able to log onto the site at the moment, and they are doing a good job of hoovering up the blinds as quickly as possible. All other tables are merely passing blinds between themselves with everyone sat out.
oops 8)
So, the league game on Ninja poker ran last night instead. At 7pm, same network problems, no one could get in. By 7:50pm, the problem was resolved and those that were sat out could sit down, and anyone else could late reg, so they decided that the result would stand.
One of the comments on the thread that was growing by the second about this stated, and I quote :-
"i nominate microgaming or the network DTD is on...i am starting to get really annoyed with ipoker"
So, that network that DTD is on would be the same one APAT is on.
Unfortunately, all of this nonsense this week means they have had to move the 2nd chance STT that all leg winners get to play in until tonight, the one night this week I can"t play. (Blatant, I won a league leg brag, I know).
I"ve tried to put myself in their shoes as what I would do if this sort of thing happened with an APAT event, and due to the timings that link in the league with other promos, I don"t see they have any other choice, just frustrating that I lose out again on something I have supported.
But, that aside, at least our network is stable. ;)
Is there nobody that can play for you, who you trust with your log-in details?
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That would be against network rules Wayne, and it"s not like me to break the rules. Just one of those things unfortunately. I"m not out of pocket, just a missed opportunity. 8)
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Maybe I should have re-worded it
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It's a shame you cannot get anybody to play for you ;)
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Just in from work and its probably too late for me to get in to this topic tonight. Will be travelling tomorrow, but will post from Stoke over the weekend. It could well become a popcorn thread ::)
suspense is killing me
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iv said it b4 and i say it again im not a fan of Boss and untill they start using a random card generator im staying on the side of i dont like it so ill not play on it . And thats such a shame as i miss sitting on Ger left
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iv said it b4 and i say it again im not a fan of Boss and untill they start using a random card generator im staying on the side of i dont like it so ill not play on it . And thats such a shame as i miss sitting on Ger left
Their random number generator is independently certified and audited. To suggest anything else; no matter how cruel the river treats you, is just wrong.
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iv said it b4 and i say it again im not a fan of Boss and untill they start using a random card generator im staying on the side of i dont like it so ill not play on it . And thats such a shame as i miss sitting on Ger left
Their random number generator is independently certified and audited. To suggest anything else; no matter how cruel the river treats you, is just wrong.
And your last sentence is just plain cruel ;D ;D ;D
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;)
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Just in from work and its probably too late for me to get in to this topic tonight. Will be travelling tomorrow, but will post from Stoke over the weekend. It could well become a popcorn thread ::)
my popcorn"s gone all soggy :(
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Just in from work and its probably too late for me to get in to this topic tonight. Will be travelling tomorrow, but will post from Stoke over the weekend. It could well become a popcorn thread ::)
suspense is killing me
Any news??
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This does make me chuckle.
How long have you guys been with APAT now ?
How often have you been left hanging whilst info is teased ?
This is Des you are dealing with, he"ll probably post it up on Christmas Day as a present to all the members ;D
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just to say won"t be playing on this site again!!
it"s just crap !!
end of message !
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This is Des you are dealing with, he"ll probably post it up on Christmas Day as a present to all the members ;D
Nice one Leigh. You know that everyone has now marked that in their diaries and will be battering both Des & you if there"s no show on the 25th.
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I have to agree the software is not the greatest but as I have, over the past year and a half, fell in love with APAT and everything about it (the people, the tournies, the banter, the added value etc.) I"ll play on almost any software with you guys. Lets not forget they are new to running an online poker room so I have no doubt that all will come good in the end ;)
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just to say won"t be playing on this site again!!
it"s just crap !!
end of message !
:( There goes the added value then...
On a serious note, i think the "general" consensus is that the software is never going to be all our favorite.. but basically its the same for us all.. so thats the only reason im sticking with it on a personal note, also its APAT which is the determining factor.. Also i hear that there may be some exciting news coming SOON!!.. So never say never Gary huh? hope you have a change of mind soon and we see you back at the tables :)
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On a serious note, i think the "general" consensus is that the software is never going to be all our favorite.. but basically its the same for us all.. so thats the only reason im sticking with it on a personal note, also its APAT which is the determining factor..
Indeed. I would not be playing if it was not APAT. Plus, I know that basically all of the faults with the poker client aren"t under APAT's control either. I find it amazing that the Boss network has continued to not fix so many incredibly bad problems with it - it"s not like these are new problems, they"ve been there for years.
I still miss the original Paradise Poker software :-[
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just to say won"t be playing on this site again!!
it"s just crap !!
end of message !
:( There goes the added value then...
On a serious note, i think the "general" consensus is that the software is never going to be all our favorite.. but basically its the same for us all.. so thats the only reason im sticking with it on a personal note, also its APAT which is the determining factor.. Also i hear that there may be some exciting news coming SOON!!.. So never say never Gary huh? hope you have a change of mind soon and we see you back at the tables :)
To be honest Carl I,m fed up to the back teeth of losing to runner runner on a regular basis, I don"t mean now and again every time I"ve played on this site it"s happened, don"t mind losing its just the way it happens And on here it"s a lot, I know it"s the same for everyone but soo frustrating, I play on DTD a bit which is the same and don"t get so many bad beats ?????
I will still be supporting APAT 100% but not online at the moment, gonna play other sites and lose on there instead lol :):)
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just to say won"t be playing on this site again!!
it"s just crap !!
end of message !
:( There goes the added value then...
On a serious note, i think the "general" consensus is that the software is never going to be all our favorite.. but basically its the same for us all.. so thats the only reason im sticking with it on a personal note, also its APAT which is the determining factor.. Also i hear that there may be some exciting news coming SOON!!.. So never say never Gary huh? hope you have a change of mind soon and we see you back at the tables :)
To be honest Carl I,m fed up to the back teeth of losing to runner runner on a regular basis, I don"t mean now and again every time I"ve played on this site it"s happened, don"t mind losing its just the way it happens And on here it"s a lot, I know it"s the same for everyone but soo frustrating, I play on DTD a bit which is the same and don"t get so many bad beats ?????
I will still be supporting APAT 100% but not online at the moment, gonna play other sites and lose on there instead lol :):)
Can you not see how illogical it is to suggest that you only get bad beats on Boss when you play on the APAT version?
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Gary,
Please put Jared Tendler"s Mental Game of Poker on your Christmas list. I think you have been good enough this year to get this one through ;) , and then sit down on Boxing Day, pour yourself a drink and read.
It won"t stop the runner runners from happening, but it will give you the opportunity to change the way you choose to deal with them when they happen.
Leigh
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Gary,
Please put Jared Tendler"s Mental Game of Poker on your Christmas list. I think you have been good enough this year to get this one through ;) , and then sit down on Boxing Day, pour yourself a drink and read.
It won"t stop the runner runners from happening, but it will give you the opportunity to change the way you choose to deal with them when they happen.
Leigh
Failing that.. Send Leigh a rather large cheque..maybe he won"t stalk you at the tables and take his hand of the "doom lever" ;D
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To be honest Carl I,m fed up to the back teeth of losing to runner runner on a regular basis, I don"t mean now and again every time I"ve played on this site it"s happened, don"t mind losing its just the way it happens And on here it"s a lot, I know it"s the same for everyone but soo frustrating, I play on DTD a bit which is the same and don"t get so many bad beats ?????
I will still be supporting APAT 100% but not online at the moment, gonna play other sites and lose on there instead lol :):)
er............. same platform, same network, same players, same mechanics, same RNG, same software. LOL
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Gary,
Please put Jared Tendler"s Mental Game of Poker on your Christmas list. I think you have been good enough this year to get this one through ;) , and then sit down on Boxing Day, pour yourself a drink and read.
It won"t stop the runner runners from happening, but it will give you the opportunity to change the way you choose to deal with them when they happen.
Leigh
CALL
Gary is 100% on the naughty list. Did you see what he did to me at DTD? Cheek of it, would never have happened online :D
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Posted for amusement rather not as support for any suggestion that the software is anything other than fair
first two hands after late regging
Boss, $10 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools (http://"http://www.holdemmanager.com/") Powered By Holdem Manager (http://"http://www.holdemmanager.com/") - The Ultimate Poker Software (http://"http://www.holdemmanager.com/") Suite.
SB: 1,510 (50.3 bb)
Hero (BB): 1,500 (50 bb)
MP1: 3,480 (116 bb)
MP2: 3,255 (108.5 bb)
MP3: 3,880 (129.3 bb)
CO: 1,545 (51.5 bb)
BTN: 7,505 (250.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 9(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif) 9(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif)
[color="grey"]MP1 folds[/color], MP2 calls 30, MP3 calls 30, [color="grey"]CO folds[/color], BTN calls 30, [color="red"]SB raises to 180[/color], [color="red"]Hero raises to 1,500 and is all-in[/color], MP2 calls 1,470, 2 folds, [color="red"]SB raises to 1,510 and is all-in[/color], MP2 calls 10
Flop: (4,580) 9(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif) Q(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif) 9(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif)[color="blue"] (3 players, 2 are all-in)[/color]
Turn: (4,580) Q(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif)[color="blue"] (3 players, 2 are all-in)[/color]
River: (4,580) 7(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif)[color="blue"] (3 players, 2 are all-in)[/color]
Results: 4,580 pot
Final Board: 9(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif) Q(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif) 9(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif) Q(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif) 7(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif)
SB showed Q(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif) Q(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif) and won 4,580 (3,070 net)
Hero showed 9(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif) 9(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif) and lost (-1,500 net)
MP2 showed 2(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif) K(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif) and lost (-1,510 net)
Boss, $10 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools (http://"http://www.holdemmanager.com/") Powered By Holdem Manager (http://"http://www.holdemmanager.com/") - The Ultimate Poker Software (http://"http://www.holdemmanager.com/") Suite.
BTN: 4,580 (152.7 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,500 (50 bb)
BB: 3,480 (116 bb)
UTG+2: 1,745 (58.2 bb)
MP1: 3,850 (128.3 bb)
MP2: 1,545 (51.5 bb)
MP3: 1,500 (50 bb)
CO: 7,475 (249.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif) A(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif)
3 folds, MP3 calls 30, CO calls 30, [color="grey"]BTN folds[/color], [color="red"]Hero raises to 1,500 and is all-in[/color], [color="grey"]BB folds[/color], MP3 calls 1,470 and is all-in, CO calls 1,470
Flop: (4,530) J(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif) 4(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif) 7(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif)[color="blue"] (3 players, 2 are all-in)[/color]
Turn: (4,530) 6(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif)[color="blue"] (3 players, 2 are all-in)[/color]
River: (4,530) J(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif)[color="blue"] (3 players, 2 are all-in)[/color]
Results: 4,530 pot
Final Board: J(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif) 4(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif) 7(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif) 6(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif) J(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif)
Hero showed A(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif) A(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif) and won 4,530 (3,030 net)
MP3 showed Q(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif) 2(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif) and lost (-1,500 net)
CO showed 6(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif) K(http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif) and lost (-1,500 net)
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Gary,
Please put Jared Tendler"s Mental Game of Poker on your Christmas list. I think you have been good enough this year to get this one through ;) , and then sit down on Boxing Day, pour yourself a drink and read.
It won"t stop the runner runners from happening, but it will give you the opportunity to change the way you choose to deal with them when they happen.
Leigh
CALL
Gary is 100% on the naughty list. Did you see what he did to me at DTD? Cheek of it, would never have happened online :D
Ooooooooo Rodders has a naughty list......ummmmmmmmmmmmm ;)
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FWIW, I play on the site because it"s APAT, no more no less. I think all sites are open to the conspiracy RNG theory for example I played in 4 stars tourneys today and had AA cracked 4 times aipf getting it in good!! It happens online & live too and it will always be the same. I think all you can ask for is tweaking when you are on a skin & I"m sure that is being done.
Quite fancy prizes including popcorn over the Xmas period too if there are any going.
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Just wanted to say, I had a few quid on 888 so I played 3 tournys tonight and the beats on there were shocking (not just on me) so many flopped straights from hands calling 3 bets with the likes of 46/KT, worst one was 48o cold calling a big 4bet hitting flop 567 against AA n KK. I got it in (3bet 37x) with PP7 on an AA7 board with Guy calling QTo turn T river A. I honestly will never play 888 (unless for some strange reason APAT go there). So just an example of how bad other sites are. APAT is one of the better sites IMO. As said before i don"t really like the software but to say that the beats are the worst, I, and plenty of others, will gladly tell you you"re completely wrong.
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Just in from work and its probably too late for me to get in to this topic tonight. Will be travelling tomorrow, but will post from Stoke over the weekend. It could well become a popcorn thread ::)
Bumpity Bumpity ... BUMP!!!
Kids are now grossly overweight from lashings of fast decaying popcorn!!
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Does the APAT site have a facility where you can view a record of your buy-ins, winnings, etc ? I never really take much notice of my balance (unless it starts to dip),so I"ve no idea if I"ve been credited with wins or not. Apologies if it"s obvious and I"ve missed it, just wondering...
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Does the APAT site have a facility where you can view a record of your buy-ins, winnings, etc ? I never really take much notice of my balance (unless it starts to dip),so I"ve no idea if I"ve been credited with wins or not. Apologies if it"s obvious and I"ve missed it, just wondering...
I"d like to know this too. I had a quick look, but could only see withdrawls and deposits made.
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Does the APAT site have a facility where you can view a record of your buy-ins, winnings, etc ? I never really take much notice of my balance (unless it starts to dip),so I"ve no idea if I"ve been credited with wins or not. Apologies if it"s obvious and I"ve missed it, just wondering...
I"d like to know this too. I had a quick look, but could only see withdrawls and deposits made.
I"m guessing by the lack of replies that either nobody knows or it doesn"t exist :(
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Does the APAT site have a facility where you can view a record of your buy-ins, winnings, etc ? I never really take much notice of my balance (unless it starts to dip),so I"ve no idea if I"ve been credited with wins or not. Apologies if it"s obvious and I"ve missed it, just wondering...
I"d like to know this too. I had a quick look, but could only see withdrawls and deposits made.
I"m guessing by the lack of replies that either nobody knows or it doesn"t exist :(
Apologies. I missed this post.
Unfortunately there is not an in-software record of buy-ins etc.
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Apologies. I missed this post.
Unfortunately there is not an in-software record of buy-ins etc.
Thanks Matt.
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RIGGED!!!!
in the 1k geetee.
Get it in with AK v AQ for a 9k pot.
Flop xxK
Turn J
River 10
Rigged i tell you!!! :p
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Just loving these 1 hand sample sizes (I know stu is joking though) that confirm the site is rigged.
But seriously, why does this thread exist?
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I"ve just lost with AK v AQ in the Big $22 on Stars. Are they using our software now aswell ?
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Just played 5 MTT on Full Tilt, got it in good all 5 times and lost on the river all 5 times, is it the same software as ours?
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LIVE POKER IS RIGGED!!!
Oh wait a min... ;D ;D ;D
::) ::) ::)
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LIVE POKER IS RIGGED!!!
Oh wait a min... ;D ;D ;D
::) ::) ::)
qft