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Title: Getting greedy with AA
Post by: Erimus on February 13, 2013, 18:59:48 PM
Currently playing a $9k gteed tilt had this 15 mins ago

Seat 1: schnaekke (47,420)
Seat 2: Mikii79 (35,732)
Seat 3: cruiser666999 (28,553)
Seat 4: KOTLYAREVSKAYA (11,209)
Seat 5: Matty1388 (61,777)
Seat 6: Credo7 (33,269)
Seat 7: Skipper170 (21,769)
Seat 8: silh (28,011), is sitting out
Seat 9: nyc65 (36,438)
schnaekke antes 125
Mikii79 antes 125
cruiser666999 antes 125
KOTLYAREVSKAYA antes 125
Matty1388 antes 125
Credo7 antes 125
Skipper170 antes 125
silh antes 125
nyc65 antes 125
Mikii79 posts the small blind of 500
cruiser666999 posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Credo7 [As Ac]
KOTLYAREVSKAYA raises to 11,084, and is all in
Matty1388 folds.

As the title says, Do you just flat hoping for a reshove from behind or just shove all in and play it heads up and be happy with whats in the pot ?, all players behind cover me, obv not folding.

The pot would take me above average and prob a cash position
Title: Re: Getting greedy with AA
Post by: MintTrav on February 13, 2013, 19:09:05 PM
Unlucky
Title: Re: Getting greedy with AA
Post by: AMRN on February 13, 2013, 19:09:16 PM
I usually shove to isolate.  AA"s odds decline pretty quickly the more players that come into the pot..... although on the flipside, if you can drag someone in behind you there"s a chance of creating a side pot for insurance against losing the main pot.

I still shove though.
Title: Re: Getting greedy with AA
Post by: Erimus on February 13, 2013, 19:10:13 PM

Unlucky


lol, still in
Title: Re: Getting greedy with AA
Post by: Erimus on February 13, 2013, 19:58:40 PM
break time, agree with you Ste, prefer to isolate, shoved and got through, got a moan in the chat some one would of hit trips, gf then.

Currently 13/32 got 109k got a fighters chance, Credo7 if any one fancies a rail.
Title: Re: Getting greedy with AA
Post by: dwh103 on February 13, 2013, 19:59:42 PM
Depends on history and your opponents.

If the table has good players, you"ve been a solid TAG and you suddenly flat 1/3 of your stack - your range will be precisely AA in their eyes.

If the table is full of superfish and/or you"ve been a LAGface, then who knows what they might think, before shoving their AJ out of confusion.

You want as much money in pre as possible - never shove for isolation reasons, take whatever line gives you max value. Normally it"ll make no difference, but making a fractionally better play will show some day. Long run, baby.

Most of the time the first option will apply, so standard will be shove, but only for the reason that a flat looks too strong - not to try and get it heads up.

Edit: LAGt*rd is banned apparently?!
Title: Re: Getting greedy with AA
Post by: WYoung83 on February 13, 2013, 20:03:57 PM
In this situation, flatting looks uber strong, and looks like AA. So i would just shove and hope someone else calls.
If you are a lot deeper, then peeling can sometimes be ok and disguised. But not very often
Title: Re: Getting greedy with AA
Post by: deanp27 on February 13, 2013, 20:11:33 PM
Just call
Title: Re: Getting greedy with AA
Post by: Erimus on February 13, 2013, 20:55:29 PM
and relax,finished 22/839 for not a lot, 3 limpers shoved a 10 from bb, sb had AQ.
Went card dead for a while then picked up kk, c bet the ace high flop got too much resistance and couldnt call the river bet, saved the rest for a shove, unfortunatly it didnt work out, still another deep run, onwards and upwards.

Regarding the AA hand, if i have more chips prob flat but shoving makes it look a bit weaker,obv happy with getting it all in whatever at this stage against however many in, at least you know you have got it in good.
Title: Re: Getting greedy with AA
Post by: Swinebag on February 14, 2013, 09:58:10 AM
Very read dependent here.

My standard line is to shove.

Flatting can be interpreted in 2 ways, but mostly it is a sign of looking to induce a bit of "3 way".

I would be happy for a 3 way with AA but would not like a 4th hand along. Reads at the table and your perceived image would give you a good idea of getting the max from this.
Title: Re: Getting greedy with AA
Post by: pokerpops on February 14, 2013, 11:31:19 AM

Very read dependent here.

My standard line is to shove.

Flatting can be interpreted in 2 ways, but mostly it is a sign of looking to induce a bit of "3 way".

I would be happy for a 3 way with AA but would not like a 4th hand along. Reads at the table and your perceived image would give you a good idea of getting the max from this.


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