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Title: Do you like your Jacks now?
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on April 12, 2013, 14:28:24 PM
In a recent live tournament at the Aria (blatant brag). I had been in the top 5 throughout the tournament and with 15 left the following hand came up.
There are 600 thousand chips in play I have 85K. Top 5 paid. $2.5k up top, $370 min cash.
I am in early position with JJ and with blinds at 1500/3000 I raise to 8k. My immediate right ( who has just won the midday at the Wynn) has played solid poker shoves 36k, folds round to late position who also shoves for approx 25K.
How do you like JJ now? What would you do?
Title: Re: Do you like your Jacks now?
Post by: deanp27 on April 12, 2013, 14:56:55 PM
doubt i"d fold
try assigning each of the all in players some ranges based on how they have played, then you should be able to do the maths.
Title: Re: Do you like your Jacks now?
Post by: AMRN on April 12, 2013, 17:18:57 PM
need to call 28k to win 69k (+antes?), and still have 49k behind if we lose..... easy call.

Also, if we"re planning to fold to a short stack"s shove, we probably shouldn"t be playing this hand in this position as we"re essentially bluffing.  If we have raised with a plan which is to call a shove, then two shoves actually juices the pot to make the call event better for us.  
Title: Re: Do you like your Jacks now?
Post by: duke3016 on April 12, 2013, 17:26:12 PM
Jam it in their eyes while muttering "hold" under your breath and staring down the dealer daring him to deal a shocker  ;D
Title: Re: Do you like your Jacks now?
Post by: MintTrav on April 12, 2013, 18:34:33 PM

need to call 28k to win 69k (+antes?), and still have 49k behind if we lose..... easy call.


Easy call.

The 25k hand is presumably strong, though not necessarily as strong as yours. But we have a safety net - if you lose to him but win the side-pot against the 36k, you will only be 6k worse off than you are now. But you might win everything.

Fold = 77k
Call and lose = 49k
Call and lose, but win side-pot = 71k
Call and win = 146k

I assume you called. Unlucky.
Title: Re: Do you like your Jacks now?
Post by: jockey on April 12, 2013, 19:01:20 PM
come on mike,wot did you do?  Jd Jh
Title: Re: Do you like your Jacks now?
Post by: mousebob on April 13, 2013, 16:39:18 PM
Even I call here, it"s a no brainer already well articulated by some of APATs" finest.
Title: Re: Do you like your Jacks now?
Post by: AJDUK on April 14, 2013, 02:14:57 AM

Even I call here, it"s a no brainer already well articulated by some of APATs" finest.


Sorry Bob, I think it adds even more weight when I say EVEN I WOULD CALL HERE  :D ;D :D ;D :o

Come on Mike, please don"t say you folded mate! The nittiest nit on a nits night out in nitville would call here.
Title: Re: Do you like your Jacks now?
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on April 14, 2013, 11:18:53 AM
Yep I called, and was up against AK and 1010, AK on the flop saw me off big style. I managed to final table, there were 5 places paid, and I went out in 7th when JJ let me down once again against the CLs J10s. Ian Ski, manipulated his short stack brilliantly to 5th, where they chopped after an hour of passing chips for just over $1000.
Title: Re: Do you like your Jacks now?
Post by: Swinebag on April 16, 2013, 14:17:14 PM
Shame on you here Mikey. You win that flip and this thread never exists.

Well done on calling, ul on not holding. At least you were in Vegas you Jammy Fecker!!  :)