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Archive Boards => Archive => APAT UK & European Team Championships => Topic started by: APAT on April 30, 2008, 17:05:59 PM
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--Updated: June 12th--
The APAT UK Team Championship will be fully dealer dealt and played over two days at the G Casino in Blackpool, on July 19th & 20th.
The entry fee per player will be £50 and no registration fee will be charged. All of the entry fees will be returned in prize money and there will be an added GUKPT seat for the individual tournament winner; in addition to prize money for the top three finishing forums. The owner of the winning forum will win an additional £1,000 prize, the Forum Championship Cup and the right to call their community the premier poker playing forum in the UK.
The event will be run to the normal APAT tournament structure, with each player receiving 10,000 chips, on a 40 minute clock. The final fifty players will earn ranking points towards the Forum Championship. Teams will be made up of ten players.
The following forums have expressed an interest in competing, with further communities to follow:
A World of Poker
Blondepoker
Bristol & South West Meetup
Chezger
Eat My Stack
Furness Poker
Gambling.co.uk
Gutshot
Ladies In Poker
London Poker Meetup
PokerPlayer Magazine
Punters Lounge
Raise The River
The Hendon Mob
Time For Poker
UK Football Fans
UK Poker Life
FISO
Newcastle Poker Forum
APAT
Forums should appoint a captain and can apply to enter a maximum of two teams by the closing date of June 22nd. Final player selections will need to be confirmed by June 29th.
This event is expected to one of the most competitive hosted by APAT and forums are encouraged to organise team shirts and get into the spirit of what is certain to be an outstanding weekend in Blackpool.
With demand from 20 teams (and some smaller forums not included above), it now looks as if no forum will be able to enter a second team.
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Would CHEZGER forum (little minnows that we are) be eligible to enter a team
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OK Chezger Forum would like to officially enter a team -- names to follow
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Raisetheriver.com will have a team also Des, will confirm team asap.
Also, can you tell me what the number per team is or is it unlimited per forum?
Cheers for the info.
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It"s 10 per team I think
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It"s 10 per team I think
Thx hun will work on that no. at the moment til some news :)
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Chezger and RTR are both included. Number of players per team is still to be confirmed.
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OK Chezger Forum would like to officially enter a team -- names to follow
You are going to deplete the APAT team by doing this (and half the forum teams in the UK :D)
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Shouldn"t PokerPlayer be included in the list ?
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Chezger and RTR are both included. Number of players per team is still to be confirmed.
Des...please add the London Poker Meetup (http://poker.meetup.com/89/about/) as definitely interested.
Team numbers would be useful as well as the total number of seats available....when you have them ofc.
Paulie.
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Who"s representing APAT? Personally I would love to represent this forum
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Who"s representing APAT? Personally I would love to represent this forum
I see a possibility for another draw.. ???
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Blackpool sounds good, July sounds good, how do you get in to it??? ;D
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Who"s representing APAT? Personally I would love to represent this forum
ditto, ditto, ditto, and me too as well!
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Blackpool sounds good, July sounds good, how do you get in to it??? ;D
Who"s representing APAT? Personally I would love to represent this forum
ditto, ditto, ditto, and me too as well!
I see a possibility for another draw.. ???
;D ;D ;D
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Yep. Definately looking to play in this.
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just noticed this post ... got some questions bout it??:
what are the regulations to enter this specific tournament.
do u have to have a poker forum set up??
do all players have to be members of apat?
whats the min/max number per team?
what is the last date to register the team?
would like some further info plz?? ta much ::)
Laura
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Who"s representing APAT? Personally I would love to represent this forum
George, I"m appointing you captain of the APAT first team. We will enter several teams I hope, but I would like the first team to be our strongest possible based on experience and results. Assume ten players per team at this point.
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Who"s representing APAT? Personally I would love to represent this forum
George, I"m appointing you captain of the APAT first team. We will enter several teams I hope, but I would like the first team to be our strongest possible based on experience and results. Assume ten players per team at this point.
Great appointment.
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just noticed this post ... got some questions bout it??:
what are the regulations to enter this specific tournament.
do u have to have a poker forum set up??
do all players have to be members of apat?
whats the min/max number per team?
what is the last date to register the team?
would like some further info plz?? ta much ::)
Laura
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Hi Laura, Answers as best we can at the moment:
1) You need to be part of a poker community with a forum who are entering a team.
2) By participating your team will each get a membership.
3) Being determined but likely to be min 5 and max 10.
4) Absolute finalisation of individual player names will be June 25th, but we are likely to want confirmation of team entry by the end of this month latest.
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George, I"m appointing you captain of the APAT first team. We will enter several teams I hope, but I would like the first team to be our strongest possible based on experience and results. Assume ten players per team at this point.
Des....does that mean the LPM can enter more than 1 team...it"s proving to be a popular idea?
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I would have thought that"s possible Paulie and I"d probably place the LPM first team in the top three favourites at this stage.
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Who"s representing APAT? Personally I would love to represent this forum
George, I"m appointing you captain of the APAT first team. We will enter several teams I hope, but I would like the first team to be our strongest possible based on experience and results. Assume ten players per team at this point.
Nice appointment Des. Winners from the start.
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Punters Lounge are all present and correct
Des im gonna be team captain for PL so if ya need us to do anything just pm me or email me mate.
Cheers
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Who"s representing APAT? Personally I would love to represent this forum
George, I"m appointing you captain of the APAT first team. We will enter several teams I hope, but I would like the first team to be our strongest possible based on experience and results. Assume ten players per team at this point.
Nice appointment Des. Winners from the start.
Wow I am very chuffed and extremley proud!
I"ll be wearing my APAT shirt with pride. Here"s to lifting the trophy in Blackpool
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I would have thought that"s possible Paulie and I"d probably place the LPM first team in the top three favourites at this stage.
Yippee...have 15 interested at the mo...probably more after the weekend.
Looking to field at least 2 teams.
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looks like demand is again outstripping supply for this one.
If you need a 4th (or 5th) team skipper, I"m volunteering
Otherwise, like george, I"d be happy to represent APAT (despite not having his credentials)
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Punters Lounge are all present and correct
Des im gonna be team captain for PL so if ya need us to do anything just pm me or email me mate.
Cheers
Excellent, thanks Graeme.
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looks like demand is again outstripping supply for this one.
If you need a 4th (or 5th) team skipper, I"m volunteering
Otherwise, like george, I"d be happy to represent APAT (despite not having his credentials)
Thanks Rob.
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Des, is it an amateurs only comp? Just to clairfy.
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Nope, this is completely open Daniel.
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Nope, this is completely open Daniel.
Thanks Des.
See you tomorrow.
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I"m assuming their is a total capacity limit?
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I"m assuming their is a total capacity limit?
Almost certainly. Unless we use the smoking cage.
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I"m assuming their is a total capacity limit?
Yes, your hat"s barred.
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I"m assuming their is a total capacity limit?
Almost certainly. Unless we use the smoking cage.
Any idea what it will be?
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The G"s are normally 200, but we have a little thinking to do around the format of this event still. Will bottom the details out when we get back from Edinburgh. It"s going to be a corker.....
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Des,
After you have rested from the usual chaos of a National Weekend, I have a thought or two for you to mull over (and everyone else).
I can see that we have a number of forums interested already but should the "teams" not represent, if possible, a cross-section of that forums abilities?
What I mean is, perhaps a forum is only able to send, say 10 people, but APAT or LPM send 20. Rather than front-loading your "first team" with your perceived "better players" the skill levels could be evenly distributed by giving each player points based on their final position. (Say 1 point for 1st out, 200 for last etc).
Each contingent as a whole could be scored (say 10 from Punters Lounge score 500 and 20 from the LPM score 750) but the total pro-rated by the number of players.
In the example above, PL have an average of 50, but the LPM only 37.5, therefore PL would win.
This has a couple of added benefits:
- It doesn"t matter how many people are in each contingent (subject to minimums)
- Captains don"t have to pick and choose between people when deciding who to put in their teams because everyone is in a single "team".
- The pro"s don"t have a "super-team of 10" advantage giving us poor amateurs a shot.
I am sure that there are a lot of other issues that will impinge on the final format but I just thought I would throw that out there....
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Des,
After you have rested from the usual chaos of a National Weekend, I have a thought or two for you to mull over (and everyone else).
I can see that we have a number of forums interested already but should the "teams" not represent, if possible, a cross-section of that forums abilities?
What I mean is, perhaps a forum is only able to send, say 10 people, but APAT or LPM send 20. Rather than front-loading your "first team" with your perceived "better players" the skill levels could be evenly distributed by giving each player points based on their final position. (Say 1 point for 1st out, 200 for last etc).
Each contingent as a whole could be scored (say 10 from Punters Lounge score 500 and 20 from the LPM score 750) but the total pro-rated by the number of players.
In the example above, PL have an average of 50, but the LPM only 37.5, therefore PL would win.
This has a couple of added benefits:
- It doesn"t matter how many people are in each contingent (subject to minimums)
- Captains don"t have to pick and choose between people when deciding who to put in their teams because everyone is in a single "team".
- The pro"s don"t have a "super-team of 10" advantage giving us poor amateurs a shot.
I am sure that there are a lot of other issues that will impinge on the final format but I just thought I would throw that out there....
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This would mean that if you had a number of weaker players in your big team, and consequently they ended up finishing in lower positions, they would drag your average down.
Therefore it would be in the teams best interest to not enter those players at all - a team of 10 high achievers would be expected to score a higher average than a team of 20 "across the board" players.
Given that poker players as a bunch are quite competitive it would seem more unfair to put the forums in the position of having to choose whether to choose everybody to go or whether to aim for the best result possible.
Another issue is that I would see part of the additional skill involved in a team game as opposed to an individual game, is that of the captains" ability to accurately judge how good his pool of players are.
Being able to put all his best players in the "A" Team for a forum isn"t necessarily a simple task and a forum who can distinguish exactly who their 10 best players are, should get the benefit from being able to do so.
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Don"t mind me, I"m just bitter because I can"t be in Edinburgh. ;D
You make good points Jon...but I think the concept of having "first teams" would be divisive within each forum as we poker players do have a tendency of over-rate ourselves.
This would mean that if you had a number of weaker players in your big team, and consequently they ended up finishing in lower positions, they would drag your average down.
True, but my better players even that out, that"s why it"s pro-rated.
Plus, what if your forum is not large enough to send more than 1 team? Should you be penailsed because that"s all you can send?
Another issue is that I would see part of the additional skill involved in a team game as opposed to an individual game, is that of the captains" ability to accurately judge how good his pool of players are.
TBH, this isn"t really a team game as each player can"t co-operate with his/her teammates...and I take your point.....but what if you can"t send more than 1 team.
If APAT's 4th team wins on the day..does that mean that APAT has the best players or just that those 10 players had a better day than the other APAT teams?
I know this is all open to Des" final format and the number of seats available but, the point I suppose I am trying to make is that, it would be a shame if the winning forum was announced just because they could send more 10 man teams than any other.
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Food for thought that I am sure Des will dine on when he returns from Edinburgh. I think it is very difficult to rank players abilities to ensure an even ability level within one particular team.
After all, poker is the great game it is because anyone can pull up a chair and play, and on their day perform well. The better players are obviously more consistent.
As long as I make it onto an APAT team, I"m happy (even if it will probable be the 3rd or 4th string).
Should be a cracking weekend and a very competitive one.
Leigh
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love to represent APAT..but prob in Team F....but would love too nonetheless
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As previously emailed to u guys, Time For Poker would like to enter a team to the Blackpool Event. Just need to know how many is it per team (can it be between 5 & 10 players per team or definately 10 )and I"ll get the names sent to you asap :)
x.
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George, I would love to represent the APAT team forum...
What do you need to qualify....???? If its being a fish,,,, I am well in.....
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You make good points Jon...but I think the concept of having "first teams" would be divisive within each forum as we poker players do have a tendency to over-rate ourselves.
I don"t, I"m rubbish (http://blondepoker.com/forum/smileys/default/flushy.gif)
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You make good points Jon...but I think the concept of having "first teams" would be divisive within each forum as we poker players do have a tendency to over-rate ourselves.
I don"t, I"m rubbish (http://blondepoker.com/forum/smileys/default/flushy.gif)
Good to know one"s limitations.... ;D
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TBH I think Des is picking the team- I"m just leading you to victory :D
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Well if Des is picking the team we will definately win.... Everything he touches turn to gold.....I would like to play in the apat team Des, dont care if its in the z team...
Des I hope you are going to pick yourself, and have some fun at this event, as you, tighty and Tony deserve it more than anyone....
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Des I hope you are going to pick yourself, and have some fun at this event, as you, tighty and Tony deserve it more than anyone....
Good point Jimmy, although I suspect Rich and Tikay will be playing for Blonde. Be good to see if Des can actually play though......... ;D
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Des I hope you are going to pick yourself, and have some fun at this event, as you, tighty and Tony deserve it more than anyone....
Good point Jimmy, although I suspect Rich and Tikay will be playing for Blonde. Be good to see if Des can actually play though......... ;D
Yeah they where my thoughts that Tighty and Tony would play for Blonde. It would be good to see Des in the apat team though...
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Des I hope you are going to pick yourself, and have some fun at this event, as you, tighty and Tony deserve it more than anyone....
Good point Jimmy, although I suspect Rich and Tikay will be playing for Blonde. Be good to see if Des can actually play though......... ;D
Yeah they where my thoughts that Tighty and Tony would play for Blonde. It would be good to see Des in the apat team though...
Well he did chop the cash with Tikay in the tighty sit "n" go on Sunday night. Although I don"t think we"ll be playing tighty rules in Blackpool. ;)
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I think your underestimating the prowess of the Chezger forum Team all class "AA" (alcaholics anon) Poker players must b favs
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Just to throw my hat in the ring also! I would love to be in one of the apat teams!
Ppppllleeeaaasssee........................................
;D ;D ;D
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Des I hope you are going to pick yourself, and have some fun at this event, as you, tighty and Tony deserve it more than anyone....
Good point Jimmy, although I suspect Rich and Tikay will be playing for Blonde. Be good to see if Des can actually play though......... ;D
Yeah they where my thoughts that Tighty and Tony would play for Blonde. It would be good to see Des in the apat team though...
Well he did chop the cash with Tikay in the tighty sit "n" go on Sunday night. Although I don"t think we"ll be playing tighty rules in Blackpool. ;)
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The gambling.co.uk forum is interested in entering a team for this event and possibly 2 if numbers allow.
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Des
just had a chat with tony (ramchip) and i will canvass numbers from eat my stack
very interested in putting some teams in
cheers
Dean
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Des I hope you are going to pick yourself, and have some fun at this event, as you, tighty and Tony deserve it more than anyone....
Good point Jimmy, although I suspect Rich and Tikay will be playing for Blonde. Be good to see if Des can actually play though......... ;D
Yeah they where my thoughts that Tighty and Tony would play for Blonde. It would be good to see Des in the apat team though...
Well he did chop the cash with Tikay in the tighty sit "n" go on Sunday night. Although I don"t think we"ll be playing tighty rules in Blackpool. ;)
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So what is the story behind this pic???
Did Des get caught stealing with 27off??? Or was it his round??
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Talked about this over the weekend,desided I"d like to be in the APAT team.
put me in whare you see fit Des.
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I know you won"t be short of players but I would like to put my name forward as well Des. Unless you would accept a team from a none poker forum. I could get a team together from the Uxbridge Football Club forum but I guess that"s not really in the rules.
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just noticed this post ... got some questions bout it??:
what are the regulations to enter this specific tournament.
do u have to have a poker forum set up??
do all players have to be members of apat?
whats the min/max number per team?
what is the last date to register the team?
would like some further info plz?? ta much ::)
Laura
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Hi Laura, Answers as best we can at the moment:
1) You need to be part of a poker community with a forum who are entering a team.
2) By participating your team will each get a membership.
3) Being determined but likely to be min 5 and max 10.
4) Absolute finalisation of individual player names will be June 25th, but we are likely to want confirmation of team entry by the end of this month latest.
Hi there - just wanted to ask some follow on queries to the above info:
1. What about players who are "new" to a forum and have no knowledge of other forum members to get together a team? Or is it just one of the team that has to be a member of a forum?
2. If I can"t get a team of 5 is there a "pot" I can go into to potentially join an existing team that wants to make up numbers?
Hope this is OK but please let me know if you have any queries! :)
Gary
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but please let me know if you have any queries! :)
Gary
Just one. You any good? :)
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but please let me know if you have any queries! :)
Gary
Just one. You any good? :)
Because if you are - you"re overqualified for an APAT team :)
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but please let me know if you have any queries! :)
Gary
Just one. You any good? :)
Because if you are - you"re overqualified for an APAT team :)
Hi there,
I don"t think I fall into the overqualified category !!
Been playing for a couple of years. Mainly played in casinos but have played online a little. I much prefer playing poker face to face!
I currently play in a local casino tournament every couple of weeks.
Online - I"ve won a few single table tournies as probably most people have!! Seem to last a while in the multi table tournaments but haven"t made any final tables.
In the casino - never won a tournament but made it to the final table a few times.
Does this make me overqualified? I certainly haven"t made any money out of playing poker!!
Cheers
Gary
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I certainly haven"t made any money out of playing poker!!
You"ll fit right in with the APAT teams then! ;D
LPM (http://poker.meetup.com/89/about/) RULZ!
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From my point of view of course I want the APAT team to succeed.
However I think more importantly we want to take forward the APAT ethos.
Play fair, drink lots and enjoy our poker. Having said all that:
!!!!APAT FTW!!!!!
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From my point of view of course I want the APAT team to succeed.
However I think more importantly we want to take forward the APAT ethos.
Play fair, drink lots and enjoy our poker. Having said all that:
!!!!APAT FTW!!!!!
I 2nd that...!!!
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pvpp 1 team please des
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I"m up for playing in one of the APAT teams, if there are any spaces.
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From my point of view of course I want the APAT team to succeed.
However I think more importantly we want to take forward the APAT ethos.
Play fair, drink lots and enjoy our poker. Having said all that:
!!!!APAT FTW!!!!!]
George2Loose for prime minister we singing off same song sheet ;D ;D
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I"m such a tart I"d play for any of the forum teams that wants me... don"t forget I come with hubby too.... so anybody short of two players for their team!!
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Definately interested in playing this if you want me on the team George/Des??
Got a feeling Evilpie might try and get on the Blonde team upon his return from sunny Benidorm. (Him and Colchester Kev gave birthday to a beautiful baby boy on their forum last week ;D)
Oh it would make busting him twice as sweet as normal.
:o ;D :o ;D :o ;D :o
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Id be keen to be part of the team
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I"m such a tart I"d play for any of the forum teams that wants me... don"t forget I come with hubby too.... so anybody short of two players for their team!!
Linda...don"t forget..the LPM baggsied you and Richard at the WSo72os! ;D
WP, BTW
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Any idea when the teams that have been chosen to play will be announced and when names have to be entered ?? Cant wait :)
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Soon, soon....just focus on getting your T-Shirt designs ready ;)
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Cheveley Road Club would be interested in adding a team, if possible
ad ah :as: ac
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id love to be part of an apat team could anybody let me know if thats possible?
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The following forums have expressed an interest in competing, with further communities to follow:
1. APAT
2. Blondepoker
3. The Hendon Mob
4. The Gutshot
5. A World Of Poker
6. Punters Lounge
7. Eat My Stack
8. Chezger
9. Raise The River
10. London Poker Meetup
11. RLLMUK
12. The Rivercard
13. The Poker Posse
14. Time For Poker
15. Gambling.co.uk
Des...any update on the number of teams? I seem to recall a couple more expressing interest.
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Chezger are coming -- do you want to tangle with Slider -- ;D
(http://www.chezger.co.uk/assets/images/000_0294.jpg)
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Chezger are coming -- do you want to tangle with Slider -- ;D
(http://www.chezger.co.uk/assets/images/000_0294.jpg)
LOL -- "It"s inevitable Mr Anderson"
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Memo to whoever may be choosing players to represent APAT in Blackpool......count me in if required.
I dont profess to be brilliant at this game, but am a winning player every year since 2005 and currently have 86 multi-table FIRST places on my CV, plus winning a seat on the 2008 Ladbrokes Poker Cruise and cashing in the $1000 event onboard.....so as I said, I am there if required.
BOING BOING !!
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Memo to whoever may be choosing players to represent APAT in Blackpool......count me in if required.
I dont profess to be brilliant at this game, but am a winning player every year since 2005 and currently have 86 multi-table FIRST places on my CV, plus winning a seat on the 2008 Ladbrokes Poker Cruise and cashing in the $1000 event onboard.....so as I said, I am there if required.
BOING BOING !!
Doesn"t profess to being brilliant, then reels of that little list.
Sounds pretty good to me. But then thats compared to me (Before anyone else makes that point) ;D
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Memo to whoever may be choosing players to represent APAT in Blackpool......count me in if required.
I dont profess to be brilliant at this game, but am a winning player every year since 2005 and currently have 86 multi-table FIRST places on my CV, plus winning a seat on the 2008 Ladbrokes Poker Cruise and cashing in the $1000 event onboard.....so as I said, I am there if required.
BOING BOING !!
Doesn"t profess to being brilliant, then reels of that little list.
Sounds pretty good to me. But then thats compared to me (Before anyone else makes that point) ;D
Bet you"ve got more points this season...
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Memo to whoever may be choosing players to represent APAT in Blackpool......count me in if required.
I dont profess to be brilliant at this game, but am a winning player every year since 2005 and currently have 86 multi-table FIRST places on my CV, plus winning a seat on the 2008 Ladbrokes Poker Cruise and cashing in the $1000 event onboard.....so as I said, I am there if required.
BOING BOING !!
Doesn"t profess to being brilliant, then reels of that little list.
Sounds pretty good to me. But then thats compared to me (Before anyone else makes that point) ;D
Bet you"ve got more points this season...
I feel better now. That"s worth a pint in Dublin for you Dan.
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Memo to whoever may be choosing players to represent APAT in Blackpool......count me in if required.
I dont profess to be brilliant at this game, but am a winning player every year since 2005 and currently have 86 multi-table FIRST places on my CV, plus winning a seat on the 2008 Ladbrokes Poker Cruise and cashing in the $1000 event onboard.....so as I said, I am there if required.
BOING BOING !!
Doesn"t profess to being brilliant, then reels of that little list.
Sounds pretty good to me. But then thats compared to me (Before anyone else makes that point) ;D
Bet you"ve got more points this season...
I feel better now. That"s worth a pint in Dublin for you Dan.
(http://forum.histmag.org/Smileys/smiles/guinness.gif)
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Memo to whoever may be choosing players to represent APAT in Blackpool......count me in if required.
I dont profess to be brilliant at this game, but am a winning player every year since 2005 and currently have 86 multi-table FIRST places on my CV, plus winning a seat on the 2008 Ladbrokes Poker Cruise and cashing in the $1000 event onboard.....so as I said, I am there if required.
BOING BOING !!
Doesn"t profess to being brilliant, then reels of that little list.
Sounds pretty good to me. But then thats compared to me (Before anyone else makes that point) ;D
Bet you"ve got more points this season...
I feel better now. That"s worth a pint in Dublin for you Dan.
(http://forum.histmag.org/Smileys/smiles/guinness.gif)
Such a sweet talker ;D
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Enough banter...Des, I need details!
It"s like herding cats over here.... ::)
Oh...and an APAT shirt for Vegas...(leaving early June)
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Memo to whoever may be choosing players to represent APAT in Blackpool......count me in if required.
I dont profess to be brilliant at this game, but am a winning player every year since 2005 and currently have 86 multi-table FIRST places on my CV, plus winning a seat on the 2008 Ladbrokes Poker Cruise and cashing in the $1000 event onboard.....so as I said, I am there if required.
BOING BOING !!
:o I"ve had 1 win + 2 HU chopped pots, 3 2nds, 2 3rds a 4th & a 5th & go by the name of Fat Charlie Sheen so you must include me ;D
In fairness to me, I"ve only been playing multi tables since 30th March 08 so my bankroll is healthy so far :P
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We will be looking closely at the format for this event over the weekend. I"m leaning towards this, please feel free to discuss.
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I would see this working as the number of teams x 10 person matchplay STTs on day 1 with points being allocated in ascending order of exit (1pt to 10pts). We will look at timings, but we may also have a second round of MTTs with points being allocated as per the first round.
The table winners / leading individual points scorers will return to play on day 2 in MTT format and play down to a final table, where points will again be allocated in ascending order of exit - essentially deciding the Team Championship.
The winner of the day 2 MTT will win the GUKPT seat plus Gold Medal, with the prize money split evenly amongst all ten team members. The winning forum itself would take the additional prize plus the Cup. Top three forums get paid.
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We will be looking closely at the format for this event over the weekend. I"m leaning towards this, please feel free to discuss.
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I would see this working as the number of teams x 10 person matchplay STTs on day 1 with points being allocated in ascending order of exit (1pt to 10pts). We will look at timings, but we may also have a second round of MTTs with points being allocated as per the first round.
The table winners / leading individual points scorers will return to play on day 2 in MTT format and play down to a final table, where points will again be allocated in ascending order of exit - essentially deciding the Team Championship.
The winner of the day 2 MTT will win the GUKPT seat plus Gold Medal, with the prize money split evenly amongst all ten team members. The winning forum itself would take the additional prize plus the Cup. Top three forums get paid.
Sounds good, Des.
Have I mentioned that one of my favourite formats is STT......?
How many teams of 10 can Blackpool accomodate ?
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STT is my game
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STT is my game
Did your dyslexia kick in there Squire, think you are supposed to spell it with an "I" and a "H" included..... ;)
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STT is my game
Did your dyslexia kick in there Squire, think you are supposed to spell it with an "I" and a "S" included..... ;)
SISTT? SSITT? Am I dyslexic too ... ?
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SISTT? SSITT? Am I dyslexic too ... ?
Quite patently..... ::)
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I suspect Christians beard got in the way whilst he was typing..... :D
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you are supposed to spell it with an "I" and a "S" included.....
Nice sly modification of your original post ;)
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you are supposed to spell it with an "I" and a "S" included.....
Nice sly modification of your original post ;)
Wha ? ?
Me ? ?
I demand representation.......
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Thanks for the tip, and yes i am Dyslexic :P
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We will be looking closely at the format for this event over the weekend. I"m leaning towards this, please feel free to discuss.
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I would see this working as the number of teams x 10 person matchplay STTs on day 1 with points being allocated in ascending order of exit (1pt to 10pts). We will look at timings, but we may also have a second round of MTTs with points being allocated as per the first round.
The table winners / leading individual points scorers will return to play on day 2 in MTT format and play down to a final table, where points will again be allocated in ascending order of exit - essentially deciding the Team Championship.
The winner of the day 2 MTT will win the GUKPT seat plus Gold Medal, with the prize money split evenly amongst all ten team members. The winning forum itself would take the additional prize plus the Cup. Top three forums get paid.
It"s needs to be more than just a STT for 90% of the players (IMO), especially when people are travelling a long way for a "fun" weekend of poker.
Possibly the leading however many (let"s say 40 - that"s two from each one) from the STTs go into the "major" MTT, whilst the remainder go into a "minor" MTT.
Or something along those lines. Just thinking out loud really.
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We will be looking closely at the format for this event over the weekend. I"m leaning towards this, please feel free to discuss.
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I would see this working as the number of teams x 10 person matchplay STTs on day 1 with points being allocated in ascending order of exit (1pt to 10pts). We will look at timings, but we may also have a second round of MTTs with points being allocated as per the first round.
The table winners / leading individual points scorers will return to play on day 2 in MTT format and play down to a final table, where points will again be allocated in ascending order of exit - essentially deciding the Team Championship.
The winner of the day 2 MTT will win the GUKPT seat plus Gold Medal, with the prize money split evenly amongst all ten team members. The winning forum itself would take the additional prize plus the Cup. Top three forums get paid.
It"s needs to be more than just a STT for 90% of the players (IMO), especially when people are travelling a long way for a "fun" weekend of poker.
Possibly the leading however many (let"s say 40 - that"s two from each one) from the STTs go into the "major" MTT, whilst the remainder go into a "minor" MTT.
Or something along those lines. Just thinking out loud really.
I agree. If we can arrange it so that people are guaranteed a reasonable amount of poker then it will be a great weekend. What"s wrong with it being a straight APAT style 2 day event, with maybe some bonus side games ?
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We will be looking closely at the format for this event over the weekend. I"m leaning towards this, please feel free to discuss.
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I would see this working as the number of teams x 10 person matchplay STTs on day 1 with points being allocated in ascending order of exit (1pt to 10pts). We will look at timings, but we may also have a second round of MTTs with points being allocated as per the first round.
The table winners / leading individual points scorers will return to play on day 2 in MTT format and play down to a final table, where points will again be allocated in ascending order of exit - essentially deciding the Team Championship.
The winner of the day 2 MTT will win the GUKPT seat plus Gold Medal, with the prize money split evenly amongst all ten team members. The winning forum itself would take the additional prize plus the Cup. Top three forums get paid.
It"s needs to be more than just a STT for 90% of the players (IMO), especially when people are travelling a long way for a "fun" weekend of poker.
Possibly the leading however many (let"s say 40 - that"s two from each one) from the STTs go into the "major" MTT, whilst the remainder go into a "minor" MTT.
Or something along those lines. Just thinking out loud really.
I agree. If we can arrange it so that people are guaranteed a reasonable amount of poker then it will be a great weekend. What"s wrong with it being a straight APAT style 2 day event, with maybe some bonus side games ?
I want more than just a few hours of poker - that"s why!
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There would also need to be a mechanism for if 2 teams were level on points -
Deep Stack HU between team captains?
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There would also need to be a mechanism for if 2 teams were level on points - Deep Stack HU between team captains?
Brag post ahoy.....
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There would also need to be a mechanism for if 2 teams were level on points - Deep Stack HU between team captains?
Brag post ahoy.....
I"m not even going to the forum challenge, so my experience in Deep Stack HU games isn"t relevant.
I just thought it would be an appropriate way of deciding a deadlock and a suitable responsibility to give to a team captain.
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Alternatively, high card draw is an option ;D.
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lookin forward to getting the teams finalised ... find out how many are competing .. how many teams of 10 will Blackpool accommodate for??
The STT seems ok, but IMO these finish too quickly, where as a tourny will last as long as you can battle it out ... the APAT tourny structure should work fine in this case too???
Looking forward to it regardless of the structure, the team are looking forward to it too.
Laura
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my experience at playing the Newcastle regional should make me good at the STT format :D
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Any news on the format yet? Personally I"m against the stt idea, as has been mentioned, some people are coming a long way for a good weekend and to just get a single table tourney out of it would be disappointing.
As a side, does anyone know if and what the normal Saturday and Sunday comps are for Blackpool should I not last overly long ?
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Any news on the format yet? Personally I"m against the stt idea, as has been mentioned, some people are coming a long way for a good weekend and to just get a single table tourney out of it would be disappointing.
As a side, does anyone know if and what the normal Saturday and Sunday comps are for Blackpool should I not last overly long ?
Confidence is the key!!
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Does anyone know if and what the normal Saturday and Sunday comps are for Blackpool should I not last overly long ?
I"d imagine that the Saturday schedule will not apply but here you go.
http://www.gcasino.co.uk/blackpool/pokerschedule.php (http://www.gcasino.co.uk/blackpool/pokerschedule.php)
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Any news on the format yet? Personally I"m against the stt idea, as has been mentioned, some people are coming a long way for a good weekend and to just get a single table tourney out of it would be disappointing.
I have to agree on this. I dont see why it cannot just be run as normal APAT tournament, and you get points for the place you go out in either a lowest or highest points win senario.. I really hope that this is the format that is taken, and maybe if there is 20 teams, then 1 from each team can play in a 2 table STT that can run along side the final day so that it gives people something to rail.
I think other have said that you may have 2 teams from the same Forum, but if they have to name a team before the start then effectivly they are playing against each other as well, as people would be playing for their team and not just the forum.
Chezger FTW obv... ;) ;)
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Any news on the format yet? Personally I"m against the stt idea, as has been mentioned, some people are coming a long way for a good weekend and to just get a single table tourney out of it would be disappointing.
I have to agree on this. I dont see why it cannot just be run as normal APAT tournament, and you get points for the place you go out in either a lowest or highest points win senario.. I really hope that this is the format that is taken, and maybe if there is 20 teams, then 1 from each team can play in a 2 table STT that can run along side the final day so that it gives people something to rail.
I think other have said that you may have 2 teams from the same Forum, but if they have to name a team before the start then effectivly they are playing against each other as well, as people would be playing for their team and not just the forum.
Chezger FTW obv... ;) ;)
I think it should run as a normal APAT tournament as well.
The added GUKPT seat should reduce the chances of any individual colluding with another member of their team because it gives such a good incentive to win and if the £1000 prize were shared only between the members of the winning team (rather than the forum), this should stop any any collusion between 2 teams from the same forum.
Obv. the cup and the bragging rights will belong to the forum as a whole but the cash should stop anything underhand.
If STT"s and cash are generally available on the second day this gives people something to do if they get knocked out on the first day.
If the scoring was something like the top 5 finishers from each time, than statistically this reduces the effect of bad luck and will make anybody who goes out in the first level a bit less guilty about the effect on their teams chance of winning.
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I think other have said that you may have 2 teams from the same Forum, but if they have to name a team before the start then effectivly they are playing against each other as well, as people would be playing for their team and not just the forum.
..but the point is (at least in large part) to find the "best" forum...having more than one team per forum improves that forum"s chances of winning the forums prize.
One Team per Forum...I"m happy
Other than that, I really don"t care about the format although I would hope to see poker variations other than just Hold"Em included, otherwise...
UK APAT Forum Champions*
*At N/L Hold'em (Terms and Conditions apply).
Anyway, a little birdie tells me the format is pretty much set already
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Anyway, a little birdie tells me the format is pretty much set already
Surely not,toherwise what would be the point of asking for people"s opinions on this thread. ;)
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Anyway, a little birdie tells me the format is pretty much set already
Surely not,toherwise what would be the point of asking for people"s opinions on this thread. ;)
..as Des mentioned earlier he was looking to lock the format down over the weekend. I assume that has happened subject to whatever powers that be.
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We have listened to a good deal of feedback and the popular wish is for this event to be based around a full APAT MTT structure. This would not be my first choice for running the event, but in asking for feedback it is our responsibility to act on it. So a 200 player MTT it is.
With regards to the number of forums entered, it"s life that some forums are larger than others and may command an extra team, call it a larger squad if you will. We"ll just have to see how the final entry list pans out.
With regards to points scoring, points will be allocated to the final 50 players.
We will be looking to establish a final team and captains list next week and will be issuing final details thereafter.
One thing is for sure, this is going to be a great event.
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We have listened to a good deal of feedback and the popular wish is for this event to be based around a full APAT MTT structure. This would not be my first choice for running the event, but in asking for feedback it is our responsibility to act on it. So a 200 player MTT it is.
With regards to the number of forums entered, it"s life that some forums are larger than others and may command an extra team, call it a larger squad if you will. We"ll just have to see how the final entry list pans out.
With regards to points scoring, points will be allocated to the final 50 players.
We will be looking to establish a final team and captains list next week and will be issuing final details thereafter.
One thing is for sure, this is going to be a great event.
Wahey -- minnows for the win -- give that man two drinks ;D
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Nice one and thanks for clarifying it.
With regards to "This would not be my first choice for running the event", at least this will help as a guide for future events. If it doesn"t work as you intended, then at least you"ll know and can plan in advance for next time.
I know one thing, it"s going to be good fun. It"s an excellent idea to have a team based event as part of the schedule :)
Cheers for the link Paulie
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Right then. Any update on the plan for this ?
Reading other forum"s, they are busy getting teams together and I don"t want the APAT team/teams to start pre-season training later than the rest. We have a reputation to uphold (What time will the bar open ?)
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We have listened to a good deal of feedback and the popular wish is for this event to be based around a full APAT MTT structure. This would not be my first choice for running the event, but in asking for feedback it is our responsibility to act on it. So a 200 player MTT it is.
With regards to the number of forums entered, it"s life that some forums are larger than others and may command an extra team, call it a larger squad if you will. We"ll just have to see how the final entry list pans out.
With regards to points scoring, points will be allocated to the final 50 players.
We will be looking to establish a final team and captains list next week and will be issuing final details thereafter.
One thing is for sure, this is going to be a great event.
I think the right decision, and as codd said you can always change it next season if it does not work..
The top 50 points idea is good as well, will stop the fish (me) worrying to much when were on the rail bar early, getting drunk on my birthday weekend.. ::)
One Team per Forum...I"m happy
I think that that would be a shame, unless there were 20 odd forums that could put in a team..
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One Team per Forum...I"m happy
I think that that would be a shame, unless there were 20 odd forums that could put in a team..
Erm...you missed the point of my post...
..but the point is (at least in large part) to find the "best" forum...having more than one team per forum improves that forum"s chances of winning the forums prize.
Anyway, I think there is a good possibility that there will be 20 forums (fora)...but if not, who decides which forum gets to put in more than 1 team?
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One Team per Forum...I"m happy
I think that that would be a shame, unless there were 20 odd forums that could put in a team..
Erm...you missed the point of my post...
..but the point is (at least in large part) to find the "best" forum...having more than one team per forum improves that forum"s chances of winning the forums prize.
Anyway, I think there is a good possibility that there will be 20 forums (fora)...but if not, who decides which forum gets to put in more than 1 team?
I think you may have missed the point of my reply. We will get on a wavelength here..
I agree with you on the forum thing, my reply was saying it wont work unless you have 20 odd forums, otherwise you possibly wont have the numbers to have a 2 day event unless forums can put in 2 teams.
When there is enough forums who want to put entries in then I would imagine that it would be a 1 team per forum game.
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Our last two day event had 130 runners.....and there will be 140 in Dublin. ;)
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Fair enough...let"s get it all done and dusted Day 1...
...then spend Sunday on the beer and strippers. ;D
Plan?
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how and when is the apat team (or teams) going to be decided?
Surely APAT should have first dibs at having extra teams?
please sir pick me, pick me!!!!
;D ;D ;D
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is there a closing date for team entries?
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Our last two day event had 130 runners.....and there will be 140 in Dublin. ;)
Very true, so I revise my calculations to be 13/14 or maybe 15 forums then.
Fair enough...let"s get it all done and dusted Day 1...
...then spend Sunday on the beer and strippers. ;D
Plan?
A very good plan..... God I hope the value of the euro gets better over the next few days, more beer, more strippers.. ::)
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Can you take me off the list. Ive been poached like a scrambled egg.
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Can you take me off the list. Ive been poached like a scrambled egg.
Is there a list ?
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Not sure if there is an actual list, but i expressed and interest earlier in the thread.
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Des, I think it is likely that "FurnessPoker.com" would like to enter a team in this.
I"ll have a check round and let you know asap.
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We will defo have a team for this.
Let us know Des if that is OK, and I will confirm with them all.
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We have decided that this championship will be in an MTT format.
Each forum will be allowed to apply to enter up to two teams.
Full details will be in the player briefing in the weeks before the event
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We have decided that this championship will be in an MTT format.
Each forum will be allowed to apply to enter up to two teams.
Frankly I think that this biases matters somewhat...after all, how can you be the "best" forum when you get more shots at the prize because you can enter more than one team?
Forums can "apply"?...Who decides whether one forum can enter more than one team, as opposed to another, when you get 20+ teams wanting to play?
Will the G fit more than 20 teams or are the team sizes going to be altered?
I"ve always maintained that it should be one forum = one team and if there are less than 20 teams then the MTT should go off short. If you get 20+ forums then it should be on first come, first accepted basis.
Full details will be in the player briefing in the weeks before the event
Is the buy-in date still supposed to be 25th June?
If so, that doesn"t seem to leave a lot of time to arrange matters when, with all due respect, the final format/team numbers/team sizes have yet to be finalised. People have to arrange time off with loved ones and employers well before the date, and with only 6 weeks to go, not knowing if they will even get to play (or be on an acepted team) is a little disconcerting.
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We have decided that this championship will be in an MTT format.
Each forum will be allowed to apply to enter up to two teams.
Frankly I think that this biases matters somewhat...after all, how can you be the "best" forum when you get more shots at the prize because you can enter more than one team?
Forums can "apply"?...Who decides whether one forum can enter more than one team, as opposed to another, when you get 20+ teams wanting to play?
Will the G fit more than 20 teams or are the team sizes going to be altered?
I"ve always maintained that it should be one forum = one team and if there are less than 20 teams then the MTT should go off short. If you get 20+ forums then it should be on first come, first accepted basis.
Full details will be in the player briefing in the weeks before the event
Is the buy-in date still supposed to be 25th June?
If so, that doesn"t seem to leave a lot of time to arrange matters when, with all due respect, the final format/team numbers/team sizes have yet to be finalised. People have to arrange time off with loved ones and employers well before the date, and with only 6 weeks to go, not knowing if they will even get to play (or be on an acepted team) is a little disconcerting.
I appreicate your concerns but we are some way under 20 teams and there is little suggestion that we will exceed that number. Things will move quickly from here so you should have the normal notice period to prepare for the event.
Our apologies to Chezger who wanted to enter 12 teams.
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Our apologies to Chezger who wanted to enter 12 teams.
Bugger back to plan B then ;D
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Can i express a serious interest from Fiso Forum please.
Hope its not too late ;)
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Newcastle -Poker Forum would like to enter a team into this event please.
any info & reply to my email please
Thanks we look forward to it
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Interest noted FISO and Newcastle Poker Forum. I will take a look through your forums when I return from Ireland if that"s okay.
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--Updated: June 12th--
The APAT UK Team Championship will be fully dealer dealt and played over two days at the G Casino in Blackpool, on July 19th & 20th.
The entry fee per player will be £50 and no registration fee will be charged. All of the entry fees will be returned in prize money and there will be an added GUKPT seat for the individual tournament winner; in addition to prize money for the top three finishing forums. The owner of the winning forum will win an additional £1,000 prize, the Forum Championship Cup and the right to call their community the premier poker playing forum in the UK.
The event will be run to the normal APAT tournament structure, with each player receiving 10,000 chips, on a 40 minute clock. The final fifty players will earn ranking points towards the Forum Championship. Teams will be made up of ten players.
The following forums have expressed an interest in competing, with further communities to follow:
A World of Poker
Blondepoker
Chezger
Eat My Stack
Furness Poker
Gambling.co.uk
Gutshot
London Poker Meetup
Punters Lounge
Raise The River
The Hendon Mob
The Poker Posse
Time For Poker
FISO (TBC)
Newcastle Poker Forum (TBC)
APAT
Forums should appoint a captain and can apply to enter a maximum of two teams by the closing date of June 22nd. Final player selections will need to be confirmed by June 29th.
This event is expected to one of the most competitive hosted by APAT and forums are encouraged to organise team shirts and get into the spirit of what is certain to be an outstanding weekend in Blackpool.
Second Team Requests In Order Of Applications
APAT
Blondepoker
London Poker Meetup
A World Of Poker
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Can captains please post their teams here when confirmed.
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kc kd
THMF FTW
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Can captains please post their teams here when confirmed.
Real names , Poker alter-egos or just generally abusive nicknames?
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can put ( lip) ladies in poker on the list to enter please thanks
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Can captains please post their teams here when confirmed.
Real names , Poker alter-egos or just generally abusive nicknames?
Doesnt that absolutely sum up our squad :D :D
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Can I suggest that you create a Captains Only Thread for team posting and communications, AWOP did this for their team challenge and it worked a treat
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Can Newcastle Poker Forum please be considered for a 2nd team as in 1st day of post we have been well over requested for places. They are from genuine interests as well and not just for the sake of it. Thanks
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Can I suggest that you create a Captains Only Thread for team posting and communications, AWOP did this for their team challenge and it worked a treat
Thanks Paul, that"s a good idea and we will adopt it.
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Hi there can i have confirmation please if there is room for Ladies in Poker forum to join this event.I have put a post on our forum and we are able to get a team set up.
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That should be fine Mark, we"d welcome LIP. That said, we will need to do a recce on the number of entries we"ve taken to date and we"ll do that on returning from our Irish Amateur Championship on Monday.
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Hello Des,
Can you add UK Football Fans to the list of teams? Also we would like to provisionally reserve a second team slot.
Regards
Jashawk
UK Football Fans
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I wold also like to register a team from my forum - PokerfriendsUnited
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Des,
Any chance of APATChinesePokerForum.com squeezing a team in late on in the day ?
We"ve added a few members over the weekend, only one or two of them have some personal debt issues to sort first.
;D
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Des,
Any chance of APATChinesePokerForum.com squeezing a team in late on in the day ?
We"ve added a few members over the weekend, only one or two of them have some personal debt issues to sort first.
;D
As a founder member and someone who then spent 1-2 hours on the boat getting pushed by my brother to play, I am suggesting that I may be a champion in the making.. Pictures to be downloaded of yesterdays game..
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Just got an email from DTD with details of their first festival from the 17th to 20th July. Thats a bit of a shame to clash like that.
Can someone confirm I"ve got those dates right ?
Blackpool will be the place to be though. Definitely.
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Des,
Any chance of APATChinesePokerForum.com squeezing a team in late on in the day ?
We"ve added a few members over the weekend, only one or two of them have some personal debt issues to sort first.
;D
Ah yes, ahem, kin....... (http://blondepoker.com/forum/Smileys/default/whistle.gif)
As a founder member and someone who then spent 1-2 hours on the boat getting pushed by my brother to play, I am suggesting that I may be a champion in the making.. Pictures to be downloaded of yesterdays game..
Looking forward to seeing those piccies. As for being a champion in the making, I think we could all make a claim to that on yesterdays performance......well, nearly all of us. ;D
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Just got an email from DTD with details of their first festival from the 17th to 20th July. Thats a bit of a shame to clash like that.
Can someone confirm I"ve got those dates right ?
Blackpool will be the place to be though. Definitely.
You"ve got the dates right Leigh. Blackpool will be the FUN place to be, though, on that weekend.
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Just got an email from DTD with details of their first festival from the 17th to 20th July. Thats a bit of a shame to clash like that.
Can someone confirm I"ve got those dates right ?
Blackpool will be the place to be though. Definitely.
You"ve got the dates right Leigh. Blackpool will be the FUN place to be, though, on that weekend.
I"m not doubting that Ian. Are you taking the boys with you to make sure Daniel pays up ?
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Just got an email from DTD with details of their first festival from the 17th to 20th July. Thats a bit of a shame to clash like that.
Can someone confirm I"ve got those dates right ?
Blackpool will be the place to be though. Definitely.
You"ve got the dates right Leigh. Blackpool will be the FUN place to be, though, on that weekend.
I"m not doubting that Ian. Are you taking the boys with you to make sure Daniel pays up ?
"The boys" ? I don"t need the boys to get a debt out of kin, a couple of 6 year old girls could take him to the cleaners !! ;D
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a couple of 6 year old girls could take him to the cleaners!!
oooo errrrr careful Ian, you"ll start those rumours off again!!
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Hi all I wish to play on that tournament but I find only 2 ppl on my forum so there is no sense to put a team but if any forum need a one more player to compled a team I am ready to play for it:)
marcin rejmak
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Not sure how the final team is selected but it would be a honour to represent apat at this event - give the fish a chance
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Not sure how the final team is selected but it would be a honour to represent apat at this event - give the fish a chance
Added you to the list James. Not sure of the selection process though.
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=1571.0
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Punterslounge had asked for more than 10 players originally yet do not appear in the list for 2nd team requests, with 16 1st teams and 4 reserved 2nd teams, are we now too late?
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Punterslounge had asked for more than 10 players originally yet do not appear in the list for 2nd team requests, with 16 1st teams and 4 reserved 2nd teams, are we now too late?
Graeme,
From the discussions on the weekend, it sounds like the list may be at 20 by now (with reserves on top again). Des was reviewing it this week once recovered from Dublin.
Leigh
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Punterslounge had asked for more than 10 players originally yet do not appear in the list for 2nd team requests, with 16 1st teams and 4 reserved 2nd teams, are we now too late?
Graeme,
From the discussions on the weekend, it sounds like the list may be at 20 by now (with reserves on top again). Des was reviewing it this week once recovered from Dublin.
Leigh
Cheers Leigh
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Des has been on our forum at UKPL but doesnt seem to have added a UKPL team to the list??????????
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Des has been on our forum at UKPL but doesnt seem to have added a UKPL team to the list??????????
Check the master list on the first page of the thread Peter, your team is definitely in.
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Des has been on our forum at UKPL but doesnt seem to have added a UKPL team to the list??????????
Check the master list on the first page of the thread Peter, your team is definitely in.
Oh yeah!
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Like Pudd says, Thanks Guys. UK Poker Life are confirmed.
BRING IT ON!!!
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I"ve posted the mob team in the captain"s thread
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I"ve posted the mob team in the captain"s thread
Thanks Rob.
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whats the crack with getting on a team then?
too lazy to read the full thread! ;D
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whats the crack with getting on a team then?
too lazy to read the full thread! ;D
Obvious answer, but play poker and post on a forum. ;D
There is a thread to add your name to the ever growing list of APAT wannabies.
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whats the crack with getting on a team then?
too lazy to read the full thread! ;D
Obvious answer, but play poker and post on a forum. ;D
There is a thread to add your name to the ever growing list of APAT wannabies.
I"m sure he requested a place around 12 pages ago!
For info, an APAT team shirt and hoody should be available for sale before close tomorrow.
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hi des...
just a quick question...i was looking at the G Casino site there..and the dress code says no trainers...is this going to be the case when we all go down to play poker.
if u could let me know i would be grateful.
thx
Gary
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hi des...
just a quick question...i was looking at the G Casino site there..and the dress code says no trainers...is this going to be the case when we all go down to play poker.
if u could let me know i would be grateful.
thx
Gary
We"ll investigate this for the player briefing Gary. From memory Luton G strictly enforce this but I don"t remember Manchester G being too concerned. Will clarify for Blackpool.
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I was wondering where things were at with teams - I know this event is looking popular but I imagine a few teams who say they are interested will drop out. Is it therefore worth me putting together a team over this weekend from the south-west?
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If you are not in you can"t win Tom, so I would get one sorted and you will know whether you have a place early next week.
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Just seen this thread. Would be keen to play in this event as well. I will wear my "Welsh shirt" with pride if selected!
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Cheers Des...that"ll help!
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The cheveley road clubs name is not entered? I thought we were putting a team in.
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ignore my last comment, just read what was happening properly. I have not had any sleep for thirty six hours, thats my excuse. I am available for other teams if required.
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hi des...
just a quick question...i was looking at the G Casino site there..and the dress code says no trainers...is this going to be the case when we all go down to play poker.
if u could let me know i would be grateful.
thx
Gary
I HAVE BEEN LOADS OF TIMES AND I ALWAYS WEAR TRAINERS JUST NO TRACKSUIT BOTTOMS OR HOODIES ALLOWED
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How are the buy-ins going to be arranged...I have to round people up you know!
APAT will send a payment link to the team captains for onward passing to each team member. That will happen midweek.
Chezger being the despot dictatorship that it is has already made the participants fork out to me (shows commitment to the cause ;D ). So the question is can I load the whole £500 on the one payment link........
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(http://blondepoker.com/forum/Smileys/default/kneelsuckers.gif)
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Captains thread Jack. Ban him Des!
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Poker Praetorians (Pokerplayer Forum)
* Full team listing later after much caffeine, but we have some grand players in our team, prepare for defeat....
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I don"t get it. :-\
Is it a team game?
Hows it done?
Does this mean that because I have no mates that I can"t play?
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I don"t get it. :-\
Is it a team game?
Hows it done?
Does this mean that because I have no mates that I can"t play?
ummm......yes
you can add the name to the apat list, but I think they"ve just picked who they want with a draws for the last couple of spaces....(I"m hoping to make it as far as the draw!)
;D
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Poker Praetorians (Pokerplayer Forum)
* Full team listing later after much caffeine, but we have some grand players in our team, prepare for defeat....
I hope you don"t mind Christian, but we are going to be referring to the team as the PokerPlayer Magazine team.
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Poker Praetorians (Pokerplayer Forum)
* Full team listing later after much caffeine, but we have some grand players in our team, prepare for defeat....
I hope you don"t mind Christian, but we are going to be referring to the team as the PokerPlayer Magazine team.
Gah ! ! !
It"s not like I called our team -
The Ginger Nutter"s
However, I notice your "Suggested" team name may give you scope for Pee extraction Des.......
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Any news on the team yet?
Or can i take it, no news is bad news? .....from a purely personal point of view of course. ;)
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Finally, Blue Square will be producing a sportsbook on the event so everybody will be able to stick a little wager on their favourites... team odds to follow next week.
Ohhh how cool is that! hehe
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Finally, Blue Square will be producing a sportsbook on the event so everybody will be able to stick a little wager on their favourites... team odds to follow next week.
Ohhh how cool is that! hehe
Lol that is class :)
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APAT team:
George Bedi (Captain) George2loose
Max Ward UKChamp
Kevin Shutt Zukertort
Jason Jones Treydj
Tim Magnus Luke1
Andy Kingan
Simon Aukland Auck
Leigh Wiltshire Chipaccrual
Mickey Paterson jacklevel06
Cazzaline
well well well -- Chezger"s main competition methinks ;D ;D ;D
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APAT team:
George Bedi (Captain) George2loose
Max Ward UKChamp
Kevin Shutt Zukertort
Jason Jones Treydj
Tim Magnus Luke1
Andy Kingan
Simon Aukland Auck
Leigh Wiltshire Chipaccrual
Mickey Paterson jacklevel06
Cazzaline
well well well -- Chezger"s main competition methinks ;D ;D ;D
Couple of weak links in there... ;) ;) but your right
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APAT team:
George Bedi (Captain) - George2Loose - Gala Poker Tour Nottingham Winner.
Max Ward - UKChamp - 2006 UK Champion.
Kevin Shutt - Zukertort - Season One Rankings Winner.
Jason Jones - Treydj - 2008 Scottish Champion.
Tim Magnus - Luke1 - 2008 Welsh Champion.
Andy Kingan - 2008 European Champion.
Simon Aukland - Auck - Three Times Finalist Season Two, currently 2nd in Rankings.
Leigh Wiltshire - Chipaccrual - Long time Rankings Leader Season Two, currently 3rd.
Mickey Paterson - jacklevel06 - 2007 OnLive Champion.
Caroline Burgess - Cazzaline - Multiple APAT Cashes.
Apologies to everyone who wanted to be part of the APAT team and did not make it in. Space has been very limited and in the end APAT have gone with a team that includes members who have won events and placed at the top of the rankings over the last two seasons. Even our wildcard Caroline has cashed three or four times in APAT events, which few others can match.
I will be asking the captains to advertise any late seats that become available here so that as many of you as possible can get into the event.
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APAT team:
George Bedi (Captain) - George2Loose - Gala Poker Tour Nottingham Winner.
Max Ward - UKChamp - 2006 UK Champion.
Kevin Shutt - Zukertort - Season One Rankings Winner.
Jason Jones - Treydj - 2008 Scottish Champion.
Tim Magnus - Luke1 - 2008 Welsh Champion.
Andy Kingan - 2008 European Champion.
Simon Aukland - Auck - Three Times Finalist Season Two, currently 2nd in Rankings.
Leigh Wiltshire - Chipaccrual - Long time Rankings Leader Season Two, currently 3rd.
Mickey Paterson - jacklevel06 - 2007 OnLive Champion.
Caroline Burgess - Cazzaline - Multiple APAT Cashes.
Will there be bounties on the APAT team?
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APAT team:
George Bedi (Captain) - George2Loose - Gala Poker Tour Nottingham Winner.
Max Ward - UKChamp - 2006 UK Champion.
Kevin Shutt - Zukertort - Season One Rankings Winner.
Jason Jones - Treydj - 2008 Scottish Champion.
Tim Magnus - Luke1 - 2008 Welsh Champion.
Andy Kingan - 2008 European Champion.
Simon Aukland - Auck - Three Times Finalist Season Two, currently 2nd in Rankings.
Leigh Wiltshire - Chipaccrual - Long time Rankings Leader Season Two, currently 3rd.
Mickey Paterson - jacklevel06 - 2007 OnLive Champion.
Caroline Burgess - Cazzaline - Multiple APAT Cashes.
wow...a formidable team indeed....gl to you all
Will there be bounties on the APAT team?
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Oh I think bounties could be arranged ;D
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Oh I think bounties could be arranged ;D
Great, can mine be a blue wrapper one, only I"m not too keen on dark chocolate. ;D
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APAT team:
George Bedi (Captain) - George2Loose - Gala Poker Tour Nottingham Winner.
Max Ward - UKChamp - 2006 UK Champion.
Kevin Shutt - Zukertort - Season One Rankings Winner.
Jason Jones - Treydj - 2008 Scottish Champion.
Tim Magnus - Luke1 - 2008 Welsh Champion.
Andy Kingan - 2008 European Champion.
Simon Aukland - Auck - Three Times Finalist Season Two, currently 2nd in Rankings.
Leigh Wiltshire - Chipaccrual - Long time Rankings Leader Season Two, currently 3rd.
Mickey Paterson - jacklevel06 - 2007 OnLive Champion.
Caroline Burgess - Cazzaline - Multiple APAT Cashes.
Have the shirt and hoody on order ready for the call up :"(....need any reserves
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The team has been picked. It"s on the captains thread
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Oh I think bounties could be arranged ;D
Great, can mine be a blue wrapper one, only I"m not too keen on dark chocolate. ;D
LMAO!!!!
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I"m putting together a team to represent the South West Poker Meetup Group but there are currently 2 empty spaces.
Are you interested in joining us? If so, send me an email to tfeilding@hotmail.com (but please watch the spelling of "tfei" or you"ll be contacting a very annoying Australian teenager!) with your name, contact details and a brief bit about your poker history to date.
A little about us: We organise well structured home games around the South West (but mainly in Bristol) and are mainly amateurs, although there are a couple of professionals lurking. Last week the GBPT came to Bristol and we put together 10% of the field for the first event and ended up with 30% of the cash spots including first place. We also had the winner for the final £50 rebuy event. I"m not sure how many APAT medals we have between us, but it is certainly several.
So if you are interested in joining us and can commit yourself to play, then drop me an email.
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I"m putting together a team to represent the South West Poker Meetup Group but there are currently 2 empty spaces.
Are you interested in joining us? If so, send me an email to tfeilding@hotmail.com (but please watch the spelling of "tfei" or you"ll be contacting a very annoying Australian teenager!) with your name, contact details and a brief bit about your poker history to date.
A little about us: We organise well structured home games around the South West (but mainly in Bristol) and are mainly amateurs, although there are a couple of professionals lurking. Last week the GBPT came to Bristol and we put together 10% of the field for the first event and ended up with 30% of the cash spots including first place. We also had the winner for the final £50 rebuy event. I"m not sure how many APAT medals we have between us, but it is certainly several.
So if you are interested in joining us and can commit yourself to play, then drop me an email.
that"s just showing off!! 8)
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that"s just showing off!! 8)
Ha - I"m just trying to sell the team to people!
We have donkeys amongst us also - me being #1 donk.
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Oh I think bounties could be arranged ;D
Great, can mine be a blue wrapper one, only I"m not too keen on dark chocolate. ;D
I could spill the beans about Caz and her confusion over the term "a bounty on the head" at a recent event I organised, but I"m not that kind of guy...... (http://blondepoker.com/forum/Smileys/default/whistle.gif)
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LOL! And even at 1000/1 I think you"ll be struggling to get any takers with those credentials
;D
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APAT team:
George Bedi (Captain) - George2Loose - Gala Poker Tour Nottingham Winner.
Max Ward - UKChamp - 2006 UK Champion.
Kevin Shutt - Zukertort - Season One Rankings Winner.
Jason Jones - Treydj - 2008 Scottish Champion.
Tim Magnus - Luke1 - 2008 Welsh Champion.
Andy Kingan - 2008 European Champion.
Simon Aukland - Auck - Three Times Finalist Season Two, currently 2nd in Rankings.
Leigh Wiltshire - Chipaccrual - Long time Rankings Leader Season Two, currently 3rd.
Mickey Paterson - jacklevel06 - 2007 OnLive Champion.
Caroline Burgess - Cazzaline - Multiple APAT Cashes.
excellent team, well done
My ante post favourites, no pressure
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With all those tourney victories already in the bag they must have used up all their luck/suck out avoiders.
PP Forum for the win!! :-*
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Leigh Wiltshire - Chipaccrual - Long time Rankings Leader Season Two, currently 3rd.
I did actually laugh out loud when I read that.
I can translate it for you. It means "used up all his luck at the beginning of the season and has now been found out. Desperately hanging on for a podium finish." ::)
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...currently 3rd ...
not for long ;)
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...currently 3rd ...
not for long ;)
That will come as no surprise Jon.
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Hi.
This looks interesting.
Will the participating forums be allowed to field professional players?
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This event is open to both professional and amateur players, although I"m not sure we"ll see too many pros in a £50 buy in event.
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Thanks for the prompt reply.
I think you"ll be suprised ;)
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Thanks for the prompt reply.
I think you"ll be suprised ;)
Intriguing, tell us more.................
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Thanks for the prompt reply.
I think you"ll be suprised ;)
I fully expect we"ll have a few online pros in our midst, out for a laugh with their mates. Good luck to them as this tournament is open, but I hope they don"t get knocked out too early ;)
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The Bristol and South West Poker Meetup Team is as follows:
Tom Steuart-Feilding
Patrick Kelly
Ben Walton
Rod Buckman
Reagan Hamilton
Claire Duffy
Sam Swannack
Paul Smith
Niall O"Gribin
Gary Bowden
where"s matt and rod?!!
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The Bristol and South West Poker Meetup Team is as follows:
Tom Steuart-Feilding
Patrick Kelly
Ben Walton
Rod Buckman
Reagan Hamilton
Claire Duffy
Sam Swannack
Paul Smith
Niall O"Gribin
Gary Bowden
Well i think your find Rod is there!!! Matt cant make it his civil partnership is that day!!
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must learn to read......has he put his trophies down yet? :D
bless him - he was staggering around harbourside looking a bit lost, but very happy, trophy clutched to his chest like a long lost child......
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must learn to read......has he put his trophies down yet? :D
bless him - he was staggering around harbourside looking a bit lost, but very happy, trophy clutched to his chest like a long lost child......
Yeah he is currently pwning online poker at the moment as well
Last night 1st in the 20 euro deepstack on boss. Then 2nd in the 40 euro deepstack the same night!!
Sick skillz
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The individual and team odds for this event are now live on Blue Square:
Individual Odds (http://www.bluesq.com/bet?action=go_events&type_id=4690)
Team Odds (http://www.bluesq.com/bet?action=go_oc_grp&level=&type=&type_id=4690&oc_grp_id=42268)
I understand Rob "Swinebag" Swindells odds have been slashed from 125/1 to 66/1 overnight but not before several heavy backers had got their money on!
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80/1 ?? Its a good job they dont take home games in to account else i"d be 500/1 with a run!!
Do you know how many places are paid E/W?
cheers
Jas
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80/1 ?? Its a good job they dont take home games in to account else i"d be 500/1 with a run!!
Do you know how many places are paid E/W?
cheers
Jas
Rob was actually 150/1...obviously some shrewd money on him.
pay"s 1/8 e/w which is 9th place and above.
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Rob was actually 150/1...obviously some shrewd money on him.
Cant think who? ::)
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Rob was actually 150/1...obviously some shrewd money on him.
Cant think who? ::)
LOL
Amazing how much 25p e/w can change a market!
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i would love to know who came up with those odds.......im a good bet ;D
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150/1 - I"ll wait until I drift in the market -- no value :o :o :o
However 2nd fav on the team front -- hmm - I think we"ve been nobbled there
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Anyone got full address for G Casino Blackpool? Their site seems to be down
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Anyone got full address for G Casino Blackpool? Their site seems to be down
G Casino
The Sandcastle
South Promenade
Blackpool
FY4, UK
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Anyone got full address for G Casino Blackpool? Their site seems to be down
G Casino
The Sandcastle
South Promenade
Blackpool
FY4, UK
its on the entrance to the south pier you cant miss it.
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just thought I would share our team shirts with you --
Heres mine
(http://www.gerardsmyth.co.uk/assets/images/DSC01465.JPG)
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The are quality Ger.
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Very nice indeed.
Is there a prize for best turned out team ?
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just thought I would share our team shirts with you --
Heres mine
(http://www.gerardsmyth.co.uk/assets/images/DSC01465.JPG)
Might I ask where you sourced those?
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A mate of Jizzem"s -- we provided the .jpeg he embroidered -- I got a mug made too that doesn"t show until it has hot liquid in it
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A mate of Jizzem"s -- we provided the .jpeg he embroidered -- I got a mug made too that doesn"t show until it has hot liquid in it
Waste of time then?
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;D ;D ;D They are cool tho"
(http://www.gerardsmyth.co.uk/assets/images/DSC01466.JPG)
(http://www.gerardsmyth.co.uk/assets/images/DSC01467.JPG)
(http://www.gerardsmyth.co.uk/assets/images/DSC01468.JPG)
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Hi due to a few bombshells this week by my work partner myself and my wife have to pull out of the event,i am currently captain of LadiesInPoker and my wife was playing for the team.We have another captain now (JACKAMO1) and we are waiting for the reserve to confirm.How does the reserve pay,does he just use the link u sent me etc.I have updated the team list in the captaions thread.
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Hi Mark, that"s bad news and I hope everything works out okay at home. It is not a problem as long as your new captain is aware of the captains thread. Your sub can pay using the link sent previously.
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Ok thankyou for that,yes the captain is aware of the captains thread and i will let the reserve know he can pay via the payment link i received thankyou and goodluck to all.
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Ok thankyou for that,yes the captain is aware of the captains thread and i will let the reserve know he can pay via the payment link i received thankyou and goodluck to all.
Could you ask Jackamo to post in this thread so I can add his APAT id to the captains mailing list. Cheers....
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Ok will do and another thing 1 of the team and the reserve her husband been to pay via there visa debit but it wouldnt allow it ???
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skinner is JACKAMO1 name here at APAT.
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Ok will do and another thing 1 of the team and the reserve her husband been to pay via there visa debit but it wouldnt allow it ???
Happened me with my visa debit - but it worked when I selected DELTA in the drop down.
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just thought I would share our team shirts with you --
Heres mine
(http://www.gerardsmyth.co.uk/assets/images/DSC01465.JPG)
Lovely kit Ger.......wasted, but lovely - bit like Dewi ;D
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hi all im the new captain for ladies in poker (lip) as mark realdeal cant make it. on lips forum i use JACKAMO1 on here its skinner thanks
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.....wasted, but lovely - bit like Dewi ;D
(http://blondepoker.com/forum/Smileys/default/lachen78.gif)
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Keep it up you two - it"s all motavational fuel to the Chezger fire ;D
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The Chezger Pre-Forum Home Game is nearly apon us -- please see
http://www.chezger.co.uk/html/pre_forum.html (http://www.chezger.co.uk/html/pre_forum.html)
n.b. Railers are welcome if you are in the area, however the complimentary Chinese is only for players ;D
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just thought I would share our team shirts with you --
Heres mine
(http://www.gerardsmyth.co.uk/assets/images/DSC01465.JPG)
Lovely kit Ger.......wasted, but lovely - bit like Dewi ;D
>:(
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Im backing the APAT team for overall honours, and Scouse3465 to place. GL all.
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Sorry, I forgot....Woop!..Woop!! ;D
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if there is any room 4 me to get on team pls let me no cheers woop woop
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When will bsq update the prices for the replacements.
I must be 200/1 at least, ;)
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--Updated: June 12th--
The APAT UK Team Championship will be fully dealer dealt and played over two days at the G Casino in Blackpool, on July 19th & 20th.
The entry fee per player will be £50 and no registration fee will be charged. All of the entry fees will be returned in prize money and there will be an added GUKPT seat for the individual tournament winner; in addition to prize money for the top three finishing forums. The owner of the winning forum will win an additional £1,000 prize, the Forum Championship Cup and the right to call their community the premier poker playing forum in the UK.
Does this mean no idividual monies only team monies ???
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Yes, team prizes only, with the exception of the GUKPT seat which is added value for the individual winner and £1,000 & the Cup to the winning forum "owner".
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Yes, team prizes only, with the exception of the GUKPT seat which is added value for the individual winner and £1,000 & the Cup to the winning forum "owner".
Hi Guys,
Mair posted this in our forum and I felt I"d like to add my opinion here.
I think this is not a great idea to remove the individual prize. I mean for example, what if one player in the team gets really deep, but the rest bust out early?? That player then has nothing left to play for and it will ruin the spirit of the game IMO, they may as well just dump their chips off ::).
I personally would be fairly gutted, if I managed to do well in the event, but got nothing for say finishing top 9....
I hope you guys will re-consider. Also, I am a bit dissapointed we found this out after we had paid our money. :-[
Sorry for the negativity, but I am sure I am not the only one who thinks this is a bad idea.
Cheers
BM
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I think you have misunderstood.
All of the buy-in money wiil be returned as individual prizes dependent on your individual placing (Top 20 I would assume) which is the norm for APAT structured tourneys.
In addition, there is/are prizes for winning forums and for the 1st place individual a GUKPT seat.
OK?
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If there has been a mis-understanding i apologise, but below is the information i recieved.
Yes, team prizes only, with the exception of the GUKPT seat which is added value for the individual winner and £1,000 & the Cup to the winning forum "owner". [/i]
The prize money will be as follows:
1st place MTT winner - GUKPT Seat (not sure if money too)
1st Place Forum Team
2nd Place Forum Team
3rd Place Forum Team
Additional to this the team who takes 1st in the Forum Team placement will received a further £1000 and a Cup.
Which means no individual prizes, or am I missing something???
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I think you have misunderstood.
All of the buy-in money wiil be returned as individual prizes dependent on your individual placing (Top 20 I would assume) which is the norm for APAT structured tourneys.
In addition, there is/are prizes for winning forums and for the 1st place individual a GUKPT seat.
OK?
mmmmmmmm which one is it..
Yes, team prizes only, with the exception of the GUKPT seat which is added value for the individual winner and £1,000 & the Cup to the winning forum "owner".
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This is a team event not an individual one and there are no individual prizes with the exception of the GUKPT package for the person who places first in the tournament. The added value has always been stated as the GUKPT seat and the £1,000 forum owner prize so I am unsure why some of you have made assumptions to the contrary?
The top three teams will be paid all of the prize money. Now there are several ways that teams may choose to split prize money received, see next post for some examples.
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A team could choose to award equal prize money to each of its ten members.
A team may equally split prize money between its points scorers (top 50 finishers).
A team may split prize money as a percentage of individual points scores - where a player winning the event will receive a great deal more than a player finishing 50th, but in the same team.
There are other variations on splitting any prize money won, but we will leave this to individual teams to decide via their captains.
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The only stipulation being that any amends to the payout structure will need to be posted by the captains in the captains thread in advance of the event starting.
If there are no specific instructions, the standard payout structure will see each team member receiving an equal share of prize money.
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The top three teams will be paid all of the prize money. Now there are several ways that teams may choose to split prize money received, see next post for some examples.
Ohhh...didn"t realise that. Sorry for spreading confusion.
[/light dawns]
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I think this is not a great idea to remove the individual prize. I mean for example, what if one player in the team gets really deep, but the rest bust out early?? That player then has nothing left to play for and it will ruin the spirit of the game IMO, they may as well just dump their chips off
For those against a team-split on winnings, why not place a bet on yourself to add some more personal value to the tournament?
I"m placing £50 e/w on myself at 125/1, this should mean I"ll get about £750 if I make final table (1/8th odds for top 9) and a nice £7k pay day if I come in 1st - this means that in the above scenario I"d still have quite a bit left to play for.
Just a thought :)
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I thought about backing myself on BlueSQ - but it means that some players will be playing for more than others. If I"m 66/1 (8/1 to final), and you"re 125/1 (16/1 to final) then I"d be better off backing you or other players who are at 125/1.
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I thought about backing myself on BlueSQ - but it means that some players will be playing for more than others. If I"m 66/1 (8/1 to final), and you"re 125/1 (16/1 to final) then I"d be better off backing you or other players who are at 125/1.
But in terms of the likelihood of actually reaching the final table, you"d be better off backing them anyway.
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You could say the same about any poker tournament that has a book running on it - but it does give one an incentive to carry on as an individual even if the team is in disarray.
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I thought about backing myself on BlueSQ - but it means that some players will be playing for more than others. If I"m 66/1 (8/1 to final), and you"re 125/1 (16/1 to final) then I"d be better off backing you or other players who are at 125/1.
But in terms of the likelihood of actually reaching the final table, you"d be better off backing them anyway.
Not if if you were playing and I backed you.
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I thought about backing myself on BlueSQ - but it means that some players will be playing for more than others. If I"m 66/1 (8/1 to final), and you"re 125/1 (16/1 to final) then I"d be better off backing you or other players who are at 125/1.
But in terms of the likelihood of actually reaching the final table, you"d be better off backing them anyway.
Not if if you were playing and I backed you.
I took into account that I wasn"t playing.
Although I did forget that Bainn was, so I do have to amend that to anybody else playing (apart from Bainn). ;D
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If I was at the final table, and our team had lost out out of qualifying for one of the 3 forum prizes, I would be going all out to take that 1st place down, I would not give up just because there was no prize money involved.
I will be, as Craigdunn suggested above, placing individual bets, that way I have a further opportunity of winning some dosh.
At the end of the day, to be able to play as part of the RTR Forum Team, win or lose, an opportunity to try and win an APAT event, and be a part of one of the best tournament structures and friendliest environments for playing poker, I am happy with whatever way that the prize money is split.
I am looking forward to a very enjoyable weekend of poker and friends, old and hopefully new.
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We are working up an option whereby a percentage of the prize fund will go towards individual placings. We"ll see how that looks before the player briefing gets published.
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When Des points out the wording then it"s obvious.
But I can understand why some people might have read it as meaning that the forum prize payouts were all added value as well as the first prize seat.
I don"t think anybody can argue that it"s a great tournament to be involved with, but only that, however clear it was, it wasn"t clear enough that there were no individual prizes.
It just emphasises the need to really point out any terms and conditions however well you think you"ve worded an explanation.
Overall I don"t think it"s that big a deal though is it?
EDIT: Especially if it can now be amended to give some of the prizepool out as individual winnings.
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We are working up an option whereby a percentage of the prize fund will go towards individual placings. We"ll see how that looks before the player briefing gets published.
Nice one Des.
One of the great points of APAT is how it"s there for the members and "it" (i.e. Des and Rich) listen to people"s thoughts and opinions.
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We are working up an option whereby a percentage of the prize fund will go towards individual placings. We"ll see how that looks before the player briefing gets published.
Nice one Des.
One of the great points of APAT is how it"s there for the members and "it" (i.e. Des and Rich) listen to people"s thoughts and opinions.
Correct.
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In light of player feedback APAT are proposing the following payout structure for the UK Team Championship.
If any teams would prefer to revert back to a solely team orientated payout structure, then please post here via your captain, before close on Friday, for further discussion.
Payout Structure:-
Total Prizemoney: £10,000
Team Prize Allocation: £5,000
£2,500 - 1st Team & Team Cup & £1,000 to Team Owner
£1,500 - 2nd Team
£1,000 - 3rd Team
We would propose that this money is split equally amongst team members.
Individual Prize Allocation: £5,000
£1,250 - 1st & Gold Medal & GUKPT Package worth $3,000
£750 - 2nd & Silver Medal.
£500 - 3rd & Bronze Medal.
£250 - 4th to 9th.
£100 - 10th to 19th.
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That looks spot on Des. Gives everyone something to play for and retains the strong team element as well.
Looking forward to it.
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seems pretty fair to me Des. I think retaining the individual"s aspirations until the end is a positive thing.
thanks for the quick attention to the matter. I will run through it with my team-ates and post in the captain"s section.
BTW, i know top 50 count on scores is there a points structure or is it a flat 1-50 points for respective places?
sorry to be a pain
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The points structure will be a straight 1 to 50.
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May i suggest you put this new proposal, for the 20 team captains to vote on? (is there time?) as it seems only a few have questioned the proposed format.
There seems to have been slight confusion as to the wording of the pre-brief post.
Worringly for me Des i interpreted how you intended it! :o
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I don"t think we should go down the vote route unless a team objects, and thus far no team has. We will post the payout structure within the captains thread also.
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That looks spot on Des. Gives everyone something to play for and retains the strong team element as well.
Looking forward to it.
Agree
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Much more palatable. Would be an arse if 9 members of a team capitulated, but one member finished 2nd.... he/she would win nothing (other than side bets) and that isn"t really what the game is about, even if it is primarily a team event. Giving the opportunity to at least win back the entry fee and cover hotel costs is ideal.
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Awesome!
Kudos to the APAT guys for getting this addressed so quickly. Very impressive ;D. Very nice to see an organisation that listens to its members.
Really looking forward to this! See you guys there!
BM
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Des,
I know you"ve said that in the spirit of the game there is to be no soft playing or collusion however with the money being quite significant isn"t this going to be an issue in the tourney?
Are there gonna be any special rules in place to ensure this doesn"t happen?
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Des,
I know you"ve said that in the spirit of the game there is to be no soft playing or collusion however with the money being quite significant isn"t this going to be an issue in the tourney?
Are there gonna be any special rules in place to ensure this doesn"t happen?
I think the fact there are individual prizes makes collusion less likely (and less beneficial to those who"d be tempted).
But I"d be interested to hear what else can be done to prevent/reduce collusion.
I"d also be interested in what sort of collusion people are/could be worried about in this tournament.
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I"d be less worried about collusion- more about soft playing.
If you"re in the final 50 and one of your team members moves in for 10 big blinds- u look down at AK- fold? The temptation to soft play is going to be there.
I know when DTD had their first team event they had certain rules when team members played pots together. I think u were on my table Dan when Raj Dhiri was made to call Paul Jackson"s all in with any 2 cards
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Outright collusion, no.
As for so called "soft play", it must be remembered that this event is unlike any other APAT event, it is a TEAM event so, notwithstanding what Des said, I think that this is an element of a team event.
Granted there is a fine line but given the MTT nature and structure we are using, how else to you have "team play"?
In any case, how would you police it? I"m not going to show the AK I might have folded to a teammates push and to make me call with any 2 cards is unfair to me (and perhaps to others at the table) especially if, through no fault or mine I happen to be sitting at the same table behind him.
If APAT can come up with a method of ensuring that teammates don"t sit at the same table then let"s have at it. A lot of work if they can.
The individual prizes are there, IMO, to make the event worthwhile for those players who may not have a chance at a team prize (for whatever reason) but still have a shot at an individual prize beause they outlasted their teammates.
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Surely if it"s a team event you have to help out your fellow team members whenever possible?
As far as I"m concerned as long as players aren"t discussing what they are going to do then there"s no problem. All teams should sort their tactics out before the event starts and then they don"t need to discuss things during hands.
I"d be really shocked if someone"s team mate raised them out of a dry sidepot with nothing instead of checking down to knock someone out.
It"s a TEAM event. You have to play as a team. I for one will do everything I can to help a team mate as long as it doesn"t jeapardise me. What I won"t be doing is discussing things during the tournament. That would be out of order. The team that wins will be the one who have their tactics sorted out before the event starts and can use circumstances to their advantage.
If you are the BB against a short stacked team mate in the SB then I think you"d be wrong to call their push to try to knock them out.
And if you don"t then you"re stupid :)
BTW if I"m told before the event that this is not allowed then I will not do it. As far as I"m aware at the moment though it"s a team event so anything goes.
Oh one more thing. I"m in Faliraki and it"s 45 degrees ;D
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80/1 now Matt.
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I for one will do everything I can to help a team mate
....and I think that is the point of the question. So you would do anything huh? What about if you"re chip leader and can afford a few chips, and you have a short stacked team mate at the table..... would you dump a few chips on him to keep him in the game? That wouldn"t be collusion, but would be soft play,and would be a pretty poor show!
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I have read a lot of posts on here and think you seem like nice people
and I sence some very good players.
I have no doubt in my mind that there will be very little if any collusion.
To be honest if I think I am in front or the odds are right against
a team members all in, then he is going to get called.
The thing I think about is if I did take all his chips then I would have a better
chance to score more points (or even cash).
We could both end up with no points.
If you are a player and you don"t take your chances when they come
then you are asking for trouble.
Realy looking forward to it now, say hello if you see me.
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That wouldn"t be collusion, but would be soft play,and would be a pretty poor show!
In a normal event, yes...in a team event..No.
It cross the line, IMO, from soft play to collusion and in any case, no-one is having my chips for free.
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Everybody needs to be very clear on this, players will be penalised if there is any evidence of soft play or collusion. The casino will be extremely dilligent about this and if you break the rules, you should prepare to be punished.
Similarly, if the rules are abused, APAT would NOT be prepared to run this event again.
It is your event and promises to be unique in atmosphere, but please remember to play fair at all times.
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Everybody needs to be very clear on this, players will be penalised if there is any evidence of soft play or collusion. The casino will be extremely dilligent about this and if you break the rules, you should prepare to be punished.
Similarly, if the rules are abused, APAT would NOT be prepared to run this event again.
It is your event and promises to be unique in atmosphere, but please remember to play fair at all times.
Damn right !
(oh and Des, please don"t confuse my bad play with soft play you know what I"m like ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D )
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........ and if you break the rules, you should prepare to be punished.
I"ll bring the birch twigs Des..... ;D
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........ and if you break the rules, you should prepare to be punished.
I"ll bring the birch twigs Des..... ;D
I was going to give clues as to our season three plans..... ::)
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Everybody needs to be very clear on this, players will be penalised if there is any evidence of soft play or collusion. The casino will be extremely dilligent about this and if you break the rules, you should prepare to be punished.
Similarly, if the rules are abused, APAT would NOT be prepared to run this event again.
It is your event and promises to be unique in atmosphere, but please remember to play fair at all times.
Damn right !
(oh and Des, please don"t confuse my bad play with soft play you know what I"m like ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D )
We"ve handed them a few "names" to ignore in typical collusion type circumstances.... but you"re not among them Ger.... you"ll be out by then ;D
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the erm ladies in poker team now contains 7 men,with a man as reserve.
good luck ladies.
oh and i do hope bulldog isnt one of the ladies.
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Any idea when the player information is going to be issued !!!!
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I am sort of thinking soft playing and such should be allowed, after all it is a team event and thats where the majority of the prize pool lies...
Say one of my team shoved and it folded to me and I have aces, if i call I would eliminate them and lower our chances of winning the main prize, the team prize, so the smart move is to just fold the aces right?
IMO if you wanted this to play like an individual event them you should have tipped the scales in favour of the main prize being for individuals. This is team, so we should play like a team...
As long as you are not showing each other your cards, I can"t see the real problem.
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Everybody needs to be very clear on this, players will be penalised if there is any evidence of soft play or collusion. The casino will be extremely dilligent about this and if you break the rules, you should prepare to be punished.
Similarly, if the rules are abused, APAT would NOT be prepared to run this event again.
It is your event and promises to be unique in atmosphere, but please remember to play fair at all times.
Damn right !
(oh and Des, please don"t confuse my bad play with soft play you know what I"m like ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D )
We"ve handed them a few "names" to ignore in typical collusion type circumstances.... but you"re not among them Ger.... you"ll be out by then ;D
I resemble that remark :o
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Quote from the briefing
Technolog allowing, APAT intend to run a live update on the event
What"s jack got to do with it ;D
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Quote from the briefing
Technolog allowing, APAT intend to run a live update on the event
What"s jack got to do with it ;D
Have you not noticed the effect that Jack has on electronic equipment ? It"s a little like the gravitational effect I have on your chips when I"m near you, Ger. ;D
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Just to clarify guys, if APAT win the team event, I am proposing that the additional £1k owner"s prize goes towards an APAT freeroll.
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Quote from the briefing
Technolog allowing, APAT intend to run a live update on the event
What"s jack got to do with it ;D
Have you not noticed the effect that Jack has on electronic equipment ? It"s a little like the gravitational effect I have on your chips when I"m near you, Ger. ;D
Gravity can have reverse polarity ;D ::)
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Just to clarify guys, if APAT win the team event, I am proposing that the additional £1k owner"s prize goes towards an APAT freeroll.
Just to clarify if Chezger win it is going behind the bar ::)
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"Players can leave the venue after registration providing they are back in their allocated seats by 2.15pm (for a 2.30pm start). In keeping with the new regulations, players not in their seat at the start of the event will be able to play."
Is this a typing error or should it say will not be able to play
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No, the new legislation that came into force about 10 months ago means you don"t have to be seated at the start of play.
Before then, the legislation in the UK meant you had to be there for the start, otherwise you couldn"t play.
The reason APAT wants you there for the start is so you can hear al the last minute instructions, it avoids any problems with mistakes in the player listings, etc., and also means you"re ready to play.
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When will bsq update the prices for the replacements.
I must be 200/1 at least, ;)
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;DBeing that then that must make me 250/1 MrMac lol! Owe you for the league!!!
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:( I am only 100/1
My tip for the comp Tom Butlin (billboy) is 125/1 ;)
Get on.
Should be a good weekend anyway.
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cheers mac!!
Looking forward to this!
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Ive been reading through all the threads and get the feeling some teams a running scared already, surely you have picked your stongest team for this event. collusion soft play lol.
I am confident that each member of our team will let nobody stand in there way including team members. so bring it on lol.
I am really looking forward to the weekend, it sounds as though there is some tough competition, but remember guys, there is a thin line between stupidity and genuis.
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but remember guys, there is a thin line between stupidity and genuis.
Couldn"t agree more.
Really looking forward to the weekend. Should be a very enjoyable tournament.
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I agree with TOPAIR....forget about all this "soft play and collusion".
Lets just make this a weekend to remember for all the right reasons and be thankful that we have a crew like APAT running these tournaments for us.
See you all on saturday afternoon and dont have to much luck because i need it. ;D
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If anyone does a softplay move for a team member, be prepared for the same team member to **** you over later in the tournament, trust me ........ it happens. Play for yourself.
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[youtube=425,350]http://youtube.com/watch?v=y-KDhVwD0UA[/youtube]
Countdown to Blackpool.....Jack trying to find his hotel.....
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Not sure if any of you have seen this.
From AWOP, pretty funny, sec the out takes at the end,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4KKxuUFdaM
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i am sure i sat next to the guy in that video in Vegas and had a chat to him.
does he look a bit like Barny Boatman?
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I dont mean to stir, but the table draws pre made are great, but is it fair that some teams are sitting in the same seat on each table..
i,e Blonde/Chezger all in seat 1
Newcastle/Poker Player all in seat 10
I dont know if this can be done, but it seems that maybe T1 & T2 should have a random draw, T3 & T4 etc so that the same 20 stay on them 2 tables but actually in random seats, as the way it has been split, the same forums are playing each other throughout the tournament until the tables get reduced..
Maybe im jumping the gun, but there are a few players here at Chezger"s pre APAT tourney having a loud discussion..
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Please don"t jump the gun Dafydd, a lot of work has gone into putting this together and every team is in the same boat. A draw was made for team seating position and then a second draw was made to put players on individual tables. This is all completely fair and team orientated. Unfortunately there are no options to make a team event draw through the G"s Cardroom Magic system.
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Thanks for the reply Des, you need to get some sleep ;)
No probs, it was discussed at the game, and I just happened to be the one who found the draws and made a response...
Leaving in 10 minutes, see you all there
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Hope you are all having a great time.
Can I ask if this is going to be a regular thing. Hard to find out info on past team games (if any) also of any future ones. If this is going to be a regular event, is there a thread somewhere to register your interest in these?
Sorry if there is a thread on registering teams and I just haven"t found it.
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This is the first APAT team game.
It seems to be going off very successfully so that"s a good sign that it will be repeated next season.
As an inter forum challenge it is up to each forum entered to decide how there team was chosen (so that"s something more to be found on each forum"s site rather than this one) - apart from the APAT forum team which was a thread started to register an interest, so I would expect next year there would be a similar process.
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Thanks for the info Jon. I am in a forum where we play/meet in various locations during the course of the year at present. So it would be good to put a team together for the next one :)
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Thanks for the info Jon. I am in a forum where we play/meet in various locations during the course of the year at present. So it would be good to put a team together for the next one :)
You wont regret, it was a good do. No better feeling than busting out early doors yet still cashing ;D
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I just want to say a big Thank You to all the APAT members who helped put on this great event. Fun was had by all, little disappointed we didnt use our usually very consistent record in these comps to secure some silverware but congrats to Raise the River"s winner and the Bristol team for winning.
From a UKPL Perspective, very well done to Bunny for coming 5th in the event, solid and risky play paid off and you did us proud.
Well done to all the teams who played this in great spirit. UKPL will be back FTW next time ;)
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Many thanks to Des and everyone who organised the event ....... we all at UKFF really enjoyed our first venture into competitive play and to finish 9th in forum table we are over the moon about.
Personally i was gobsmacked to reach day 2 let alone finish 6th :)
I played at Edinburgh last year which was a great pleasure ........ i have one complaint which i have no idea whose fault it was (Probably the casinos) the buffet on saturday was a right shambles and loads of players who were in the tournament got absolutely nothing to eat ....... i know it is being a bit petty but by the time we waited for the queue to die down it was to late to go out and purchase any.
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Many thanks to Des and everyone who organised the event ....... we all at UKFF really enjoyed our first venture into competitive play and to finish 9th in forum table we are over the moon about.
Personally i was gobsmacked to reach day 2 let alone finish 6th :)
I played at Edinburgh last year which was a great pleasure ........ i have one complaint which i have no idea whose fault it was (Probably the casinos) the buffet on saturday was a right shambles and loads of players who were in the tournament got absolutely nothing to eat ....... i know it is being a bit petty but by the time we waited for the queue to die down it was to late to go out and purchase any.
Thanks for the feedback Nathan. The G got the timings wrong and initially brought the buffet out early, where I understand some was consumed, leaving the buffet break short. Rest assured that will be part of our report back to Grosvenor head office, and apologies if you went hungry for the evening.
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good job there are so many fish and chips stands just outside :)
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Hi guys,
I am BurnleyMik of the RaiseTheRiver poker forum and community (who finished 2nd baby and had the individual winner!! ;D) and I would like to take this opportunity to thank APAT, AWOP, NutzTV and BlueSquare for putting together what was an absolutely fantastic weekend of poker.
The team element really worked well, with your hopes still alive even though you had busted!!
I think you guys all did an excellent job and would to thankyou on behalf of all of RaiseTheRiver and we will be back next year to try and claim the title we so narrowly missed out on!!
Thankyou!
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It was a long weekend in the windy mecca of the north. A thoroughly well organised event (as expected from Des and APAT). 20 well supported teams , 200 players from the best amateur sites in the UK all arrived on the Saturday to commence battle in what was to be an epic.
There were some rough beats being dished out to many , but it didnt deter the atmosphere from being electric. I would like to thank Andysmith on doing a good job as team captain. Natsam , fantastic result in reaching the Final Table after having started Day 2 as a shortstack (Well Played!). A fine support role from Kev "Ive seen the light" Rev54 to earn us more Team points and giving us a respectable finish against the big boys (18/1 seems like a bargain , considering ;) ). A very big thank you to the rest of the team , DavidM17 ...wasnt to be this time Dave, Charlie aka SlyFox...horrible beat , Mortis ...such a great start , but when the cards are against you ...there is no escape(nice job on the Blackjack too), Beau ...solid game without the cards , Evertonbabe ... well played and good job on the roulette , Al ... what can i say , keep getting your chips in ahead and it will click together very soon. As for myself , I couldnt catch a cold all weekend.....still it took a river beat to take my chips.
I would also like to say "CONGRATULATIONS" to Mair38 , your name was on the Trophy! It was nice to meet you and hubby - Hammerheid. Ranny , always there to brighten up the weekend. Chewie2000 , was great to meet you , sorry I didnt have time to catch up with Spursman...maybe next time. Shogun112 , nice to meet you. Resdent Evil , was good to meet you and I will get revenge for those running hearts :D
We all made a lot of new friends too from the other forums. There were some quality people involved throughout.
Chris and Kerry , our rail team...nice to meet you both and thank you for all the support.
Finally , a big thank you to the following :
Des Duffy and Apat , thanks for a great competition , I hope we showed our worth!
John from BlueSquare , good to meet you and thank you.
GCasino - Nice venue , good staff. Thank you
AWOP & The Nutz TV...awesome coverage , many thanks for keeping all those forum members back at home base up to date with the event.
The other teams - thanks for the game , the entertainment (Newcastle) , the colour ( Bristol & Southwest ) , Dewi (top bloke , nice chatting with you) , Bas (was nice to put a face to the name , geezer) , Mike and Marcus from Gutshot (top lads!) ...and to anyone I have not mentioned. Respect
Jashawk
UK Football Fans
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Yes, team prizes only, with the exception of the GUKPT seat which is added value for the individual winner and £1,000 & the Cup to the winning forum "owner".
Hi Guys,
Mair posted this in our forum and I felt I"d like to add my opinion here.
I think this is not a great idea to remove the individual prize. I mean for example, what if one player in the team gets really deep, but the rest bust out early?? That player then has nothing left to play for and it will ruin the spirit of the game IMO, they may as well just dump their chips off ::).
Does she have a crystal ball?!
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Yes, team prizes only, with the exception of the GUKPT seat which is added value for the individual winner and £1,000 & the Cup to the winning forum "owner".
Hi Guys,
Mair posted this in our forum and I felt I"d like to add my opinion here.
I think this is not a great idea to remove the individual prize. I mean for example, what if one player in the team gets really deep, but the rest bust out early?? That player then has nothing left to play for and it will ruin the spirit of the game IMO, they may as well just dump their chips off ::).
Does she have a crystal ball?!
No but she has the skilllllz! ;)
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LOL its Mik"s crystal ball, was his response not mine ;) hes one psychic lad hehe.
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Just want to say a massive thanks to everyone involved in organising the event and helping out over the two days. It was a fantastic weekend.
I was so excited to be in the APAT team and want to thank my team mates for such fantastic support ;D
It was great to see all our friends again and to have met many new friends too.
Mary - Congratulations, it was a win well deserved - and nice to have met you over the weekend - can"t believe I have never spoken to you before :)
Congratulations to the Bristol and South West Meetup team
Take care all and look forward to seeing you all soon