Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 11:16:08 AM
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 11:21:47 AM
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 12:42:32 PM
15,000 stack, 45 min levels - usual APAT structure.
Post by: Matt D on December 07, 2013, 12:50:30 PM
Good luck to everyone today!
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 13:05:05 PM
Wow @ some of the dealers (and players). Stunning. I bet John Murray is in 7th Heaven! :)
John isn"t the only one. I"m still drooling.
:-) O:-)
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 13:37:31 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-othyQPvRIGc/UqDmQ1-cxHI/AAAAAAAA9Nc/TQWrCyur1eM/s800/IMG_7276.JPG)
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 13:43:07 PM
Initial raiser call Ad Jh
Kd 7s 4s Jd 2c
Kev departs
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--shJPyxP3LU/UqDmSi4N_kI/AAAAAAAA9Ns/VK11rgvx9cs/s576/IMG_7279.JPG)
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 14:28:05 PM
Seat 7 John Murray all in 5225 chips
Seat 1 fold
Seat 5 Carl Pilgrim with a stack of 15k ponders... announces he"s counting his outs (and proceeds to count them on his fingers)... eventually, and what looked like rather reluctantly... calls
John Jh Kd for 2 pair
Carl 10h Qh needing a heart for flush or 9/A for straight - misses on river and JM takes a pot of 17k (leaving CP on 10k)
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| From ECOAP Day 3 Sat 7th |
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 14:55:00 PM
John Murray 16k
Carl Pilgrim 6k
Duffy 25k
Frank 22k
Richard 21k
Gordon 35k
Ger 26k
Paulie 31k
Chip leaders look around 50k
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 15:09:16 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 15:18:32 PM
I suspect Old Town Prague may get a pasting tonight, especially if they have a water feature.
:-)
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 15:35:59 PM
JM Btn raises pre-flop to 650 S9 BB re-rasied to 1400
JM calls
Flop Kh Kd 6c
check check
Turn 4s
S9 bet and JM calls
River Kc
S9 bet 4000 and JM thinks and flat calls
JM 6s 6d
S9 Ks 6h
Pot of 16k with both players having flopped a full house
S9 had JM covered (just) so think that 3rd K on board saved JM from pushing his stack all in - JM left with 6k
Post by: Duffy on December 07, 2013, 15:47:10 PM
Wow @ some of the dealers (and players). Stunning. I bet John Murray is in 7th Heaven! :)
Good luck to everyone today!
Awww thanks hahaha ::)
Post by: suzanne on December 07, 2013, 15:48:26 PM
John Murray involved in another big hand
JM Btn raises pre-flop to 650 S9 BB re-rasied to 1400
JM calls
Flop Kh Kd 6c
check check
Turn 4s
S9 bet and JM calls
River Kc
S9 bet 4000 and JM thinks and flat calls
JM 6s 6d
S9 Ks Kh
Pot of 16k with both players having flopped a full house
S9 had JM covered (just) so think that 3rd K on board saved JM from pushing his stack all in - JM left with 6k
New cards for that table :)
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 15:50:02 PM
John Murray 6k
Carl Pilgrim 17k
Tom Clark 30k
Duffy 30k
Frank 24k
Rich 22k
Gordon 30k
Paulie 29k
Ger 25k
Post by: LombBomb on December 07, 2013, 16:13:26 PM
Post by: DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be) on December 07, 2013, 16:23:56 PM
Jan 15k
Christoff 9k
Jerry 17k
Tom 14k
Go Belgium
:)
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 16:33:38 PM
AK vs 64. King high flop hits me nicely but gives him 2nd pair and a straight draw.
The money goes in and he misses.
Now I just have to come down from the adrenaline surge.
:O
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 16:37:45 PM
Sigh.
Post by: Fatcatstu on December 07, 2013, 16:44:29 PM
And next hand I lose 7k with AT vs AK against a short stack.
Sigh.
Fish!!!
What is Ger"s beer/chips ratio please?
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 16:47:07 PM
Post by: Matt D on December 07, 2013, 16:51:25 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 16:53:27 PM
Back at 41k.
8-)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Mw4Kh6xh8sg/UqMVWYdvI0I/AAAAAAAA9l0/RKLTiFzll-o/s800/IMG_7437.JPG)
Paulie D looking serious, next to Gareth John
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 16:59:46 PM
Blinds 200/400 Ante 50
Stacks (average 23k)
John - 22k
Carl - 16k
T Clark - 26k
Duffy - 26k
Frank - 20k
Rich - 25k
Gordon - 36k
Pauli - 36k
Ger - 37k
Of interest, our individual winner from yesterday, Matz (Ger) is still in too - with 10k
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 17:02:35 PM
Ger looks like an unmade bed right now.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yseelLb8BBs/UqNUbUdNPvI/AAAAAAAA9xI/R9tK2cveaA8/s800/IMG_7519.JPG)
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 07, 2013, 17:48:17 PM
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 17:51:51 PM
Dinner Break ?
Not to my knowledge.
The dealers are racing off the 25 chips right now.
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 17:57:42 PM
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 07, 2013, 18:01:06 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lKmxmk996j0/UqJ2dciMj0I/AAAAAAAA9jg/39mWbHQKOqw/s800/IMG_7421.JPG)
Typical I get it right the one time we don"t run a prediction competition. ;D
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 07, 2013, 18:05:18 PM
Dinner Break ?
Not to my knowledge.
The dealers are racing off the 25 chips right now.
For those wondering what the dealers that Paulie is referring to look like, here you go.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YWcVsDtrw1w/UqM_DEdkIFI/AAAAAAAA9ws/mFX1vL3tM3U/s800/IMG_7500.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-N5levNYwCKE/UqM-_EVi23I/AAAAAAAA9ws/b0vcrIneTmc/s800/IMG_7496.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q5yNR-_rtB4/UqM_J3ZwFTI/AAAAAAAA9ws/5VSdbFHBpS0/s800/IMG_7505.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KdbYujMbgic/UqM-xBGPu3I/AAAAAAAA9ws/ixpJKtVCdjI/s800/IMG_7489.JPG)
Prague giving Tallinn a run for it"s money :D
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 18:13:15 PM
Apparently my Czech is in the mail.
:-P
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 07, 2013, 18:18:06 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1393714_777274488965596_503177567_n.jpg)
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 07, 2013, 18:45:45 PM
Paulie_D ?@Paulie_D59 19m
Hard going with a couple of short stacks but on 40k.
Tom Clark ?@TomClark78 2m
21k going back to 500/1000 a100
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 18:46:13 PM
It"s been a little bit tough on my table with the few short stacks not letting much through.
35k for me. Avg 30k
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 19:02:51 PM
Blinds 1000/500 ante 100
John - 40k
Carl - 12k
Duffy - 17k
Frank - 17k
Rich - 23k
Gordon - 36k
Ger - 37k
Paulie - 33k
really good performance by all concerned - keep it up guys
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 19:16:12 PM
Qh 4h 2d Ah 5s
Duffy departs
51 remain
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 19:33:15 PM
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 19:37:54 PM
Called by Ac Jd
Frank couldn"t come back from that and departs.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-SEWnLp0H90I/UqM-kwadKmI/AAAAAAAA9ws/mQhO4ynH25M/s720/IMG_7481.JPG)
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 19:40:49 PM
average 42, 000
chip stacks
John - 34k
Carl - 13k
Tom - 16k
Rich - 38k
Gordon - 34k
Paulie - 25k
Ger - 42k
in addition, we have just noticed Lee Wyatt playing and he has 36k - sorry for missing you out Lee (hope I have spelt your name correctly)
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 19:45:07 PM
Post by: gunnerdamo on December 07, 2013, 19:45:31 PM
Frank all in 11k Ah 4s
Called by Ac Jd
Frank couldn"t come back from that and departs.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-SEWnLp0H90I/UqM-kwadKmI/AAAAAAAA9ws/mQhO4ynH25M/s720/IMG_7481.JPG)
Hard luck Dad
Post by: Fatcatstu on December 07, 2013, 19:45:42 PM
Someone buy the man more beer!!
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 19:49:07 PM
Tom had Ah 10s
Christoff Kc Ks
Flop 4c 7d A s
Turn 9d
River Kd
Unlucky Tom but well played
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 19:50:16 PM
7 of the APAT crowd who played in the team event remaining
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 19:53:19 PM
20k :-(
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 19:53:39 PM
pushed with Qh Qd with 10,000
against Ac Ks
Board
2c Kd 4h 10d 10s
well played mate
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 20:05:46 PM
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 20:16:20 PM
John - 32k
Rich - 30k
Gordon - 34k
Paulie - 21k
ger - 34k
Lee - 36k
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 20:25:41 PM
Paulie 25k
Ger 30k
Rich 35k
Gordon 40k
John Murray 28k
Ian Wyatt 36k
Post by: AAroddersAA on December 07, 2013, 20:37:58 PM
33 left:
Paulie 25k
Ger 30k
Rich 35k
Gordon 40k
John Murray 28k
Ian Wyatt 36k
Gwan gents one of you take it down plz.
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 20:41:10 PM
no luck on board
Lee departs
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 20:53:30 PM
24k at 800/1600
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 20:54:57 PM
board has an A - Gordon departs 30th
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 20:56:55 PM
John - 21k
Gordon just gone - Tom Brady just reporting on the thread
Rich - 24k
Paulie - 23k
Ger - 37k
Post by: Fatcatstu on December 07, 2013, 21:08:01 PM
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 21:09:57 PM
10s 6c 2d A s 9d
Well played mate
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 21:11:35 PM
John, Ger and Rich
Good luck guys
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 21:13:26 PM
Ger - 28k
John - 29k
blinds 1000/2000 ante 300
73,269 average
all low chip stack
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 21:19:51 PM
Down to 29 players and only 4 pages of updates? Is there a problem with the WIFI?
No mate but keeping you informed about a bunch of random people you don"t know doesn"t seem worthwhile.
With love.
PAULIE
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 07, 2013, 21:34:12 PM
Down to 29 players and only 4 pages of updates? Is there a problem with the WIFI?
No mate but keeping you informed about a bunch of random people you don"t know doesn"t seem worthwhile.
With love.
PAULIE
Have to disagree with this. Lots of APAT events have "randoms" that no one knows. But by updating about the tournament and all the players involved gives them a better APAT experience and differentiates it from any other tournament.
My first few APAT events, I was a "random", didn"t know anyone there, travelled to events on my own.
Don"t want to derail the update thread, have sat here quietly following the news, but it"s quite frustrating at times.
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 21:40:25 PM
2 callers with Ac 3c and Kd 2h
Ger shows Ah 7d
5d Qs 10h 8h 6h
Ger hits straight on river and tops up to circa 50k - knocking out 1 player
Post by: Fatcatstu on December 07, 2013, 21:41:16 PM
Down to 29 players and only 4 pages of updates? Is there a problem with the WIFI?
No mate but keeping you informed about a bunch of random people you don"t know doesn"t seem worthwhile.
With love.
PAULIE
Disagree. Look at the update thread from Estonia. A great thread.
I agree with Leigh 100%.
There are people reading this thread, and no one is getting any info at all. Why??
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 07, 2013, 21:43:30 PM
Ger all in pre 24k
2 callers with Ac 3c and Kd 2h
Ger shows Ah 7d
5d Qs 10h 8h 6h
Ger hits straight on river and tops up to circa 50k - knocking out 1 player
BOOOOOOOM
GO GO GO Ger
Easy Game ;D
Not sure how he hits a straight though ;)
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 21:48:29 PM
Ger all in pre 24k
2 callers with Ac 3c and Kd 2h
Ger shows Ah 7d
5d Qs 10h 8h 6h
Ger hits straight on river and tops up to circa 50k - knocking out 1 player
BOOOOOOOM
GO GO GO Ger
Easy Game ;D
Not sure how he hits a straight though ;)
Oh come on Leigh - you really can"t work that out!!!
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 21:48:31 PM
Down to 29 players and only 4 pages of updates? Is there a problem with the WIFI?
No mate but keeping you informed about a bunch of random people you don"t know doesn"t seem worthwhile.
With love.
PAULIE
Disagree. Look at the update thread from Estonia. A great thread.
I agree with Leigh 100%.
There are people reading this thread, and no one is getting any info at all. Why??
Tallinn.
DAMN IT, DAMN IT
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 21:49:40 PM
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 21:59:08 PM
Table 1
Seat 1 - Gabriel - 365k
Seat 2 - 110k
Seat 3 - 106k
Seat 5 - 8k
Seat 7 - 23k
Seat 8 - 64k
Seat 9 - 26k
Table 2
Seat 1 - 38k
Seat 2 - Christoff - 37k
Seat 3 - 246k
Seat 5 - John - 28k
Seat 7 - 149k
Seat 8 - 137k
Seat 9 - 166k
Table 3
Seat 2 - Ger - 48k
Seat 3 - 30k
Seat 5 - 105k
Seat 6 - 22k
Seat 7 - 22k
Seat 8 - Rich - 40k
Seat 9 - 70k
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 22:08:06 PM
seat 2 bets 4k
seat pushes with 25k
calls
2 shows Ac 8c
5 shows Ad Ah
4d 4h 7c 6s 4s
seat 5 doubles up
Post by: Paulie_D on December 07, 2013, 22:11:35 PM
Post by: Matt D on December 07, 2013, 22:20:32 PM
Seat 1 - Gabriel - 365k
Wow. Is this the same Gabriel that played for Team Italy? If so, this could prove to be quite the consolation! :)
Post by: presty on December 07, 2013, 22:30:21 PM
Down to final 18 - report to follow
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 22:30:47 PM
8 7 8 K 2
we are down to final 18 all in the money and end of play for today - we will return tomorrow at 12:00 with 2 x 9-handed L14 26 mins remaining with blinds 1500/3000 Ante 400
John Murray 18k
Rich 33k
Ger 40k
Post by: Des on December 07, 2013, 23:00:10 PM
AA v AK who is all in
8 7 8 K 2
we are down to final 18 all in the money and end of play for today - we will return tomorrow at 12:00 with 2 x 9-handed L14 26 mins remaining with blinds 1500/3000 Ante 400
John Murray 18k
Rich 33k
Ger 40k
Do we have a list of the last 18 and counts?
Post by: IrishTom on December 07, 2013, 23:18:34 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0j7PuRM9-TI/UqOnGEY_OxI/AAAAAAAA90k/0mL5nnQ1Z1U/s800/IMG_7545.JPG)
Gabriel Iemmits 380700 40 3
Adam Gorski 294300 41 6
Marcel 209500 40 9
Jouri Vainer 152700 40 1
Jerry Vandyck 128500 41 4
Renti Bollengier 109200 41 8
Artur Sychov 101200 40 5
Tomasz Chmiel 89900 41 7
Patrice Devisse 67800 41 1
Tino Richter 64500 40 4
Igor Postoev 49200 41 2
Kamil Ostaszewski 43900 41 9
Sascha Lempe 40800 40 2
Gerard Smyth 36000 40 8
Tom Slikboer 35600 40 7
Richard Baker 33100 40 6
Eugeniv Corotchi 30000 41 5
John Murray 18000 41 3
Patrice Devisse 67800 41 1
Igor Postoev 49200 41 2
John Murray 18000 41 3
Jerry Vandyck 128500 41 4
Eugeniv Corotchi 30000 41 5
Adam Gorski 294300 41 6
Tomasz Chmiel 89900 41 7
Renti Bollengier 109200 41 8
Kamil Ostaszewski 43900 41 9
Jouri Vainer 152700 40 1
Sascha Lempe 40800 40 2
Gabriel Iemmits 380700 40 3
Tino Richter 64500 40 4
Artur Sychov 101200 40 5
Richard Baker 33100 40 6
Tom Slikboer 35600 40 7
Gerard Smyth 36000 40 8
Marcel 209500 40 9
Post by: Quadran666 (Christoff Apat.be) on December 08, 2013, 09:00:32 AM
Post by: Duffy on December 08, 2013, 09:25:11 AM
Allright. Today is the big day. Two Belgians at te final 18. Cmon Dodgyend and Jerry. Ship that second medal of the weekend. Pretty sure the Scotsmen are also sending us their good vibes ;-) !!!!
GO GO Tom & Jerry!!! ;D
Post by: MintTrav on December 08, 2013, 09:45:39 AM
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 09:51:09 AM
Post by: Fatcatstu on December 08, 2013, 09:51:44 AM
Nice to see Tony Trippier pop into the breakfast room this morning to collect various breakfast things and take them up to his room. Unfortunately he didn"t have time to change out of his pyjamas and bare feet. I suppose we should be glad that he brought pyjamas.
hahaha :) I heart TT
Post by: KarmaDope on December 08, 2013, 10:13:21 AM
Nice to see Tony Trippier pop into the breakfast room this morning to collect various breakfast things and take them up to his room. Unfortunately he didn"t have time to change out of his pyjamas and bare feet. I suppose we should be glad that he brought pyjamas.
Standard, surely. I"ve done this a few times...
Post by: kohan on December 08, 2013, 10:17:17 AM
What times the restart ?
12 o clock
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 10:27:47 AM
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 10:43:48 AM
John has a bad draw - seat 3 but Ger and Richard have a few hands to settle in.
What would you do????
would you ship as soon as you get half decent cards, or do you sit tight and let the roll go, but hope that others are eliminated in the meantime and thus increase the winnings?
We would like to hear from you?
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 10:48:43 AM
Post by: Paulie_D on December 08, 2013, 11:02:57 AM
Post by: Fatcatstu on December 08, 2013, 11:04:36 AM
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 11:06:01 AM
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 11:06:50 AM
Ship it, need to win for the big moneys.
Completely agree with this.
For the win my friends !!!!!!
Post by: Paulie_D on December 08, 2013, 11:10:44 AM
Was there a table redraw then, or just the table break at 18 ?
There was a redraw @18
Post by: Paulie_D on December 08, 2013, 11:11:46 AM
Richard Baker doubled to 60k with AK VS AJ
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 11:11:50 AM
10s 7s 4s 8s 6c
Ger reduced to 400!
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 11:12:39 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0gGh6TqKO9w/UqRZIDpj8mI/AAAAAAAA93U/o1Pu52vbqWM/s800/IMG_7565.JPG)
18th Place finisher - Ger Smyth
Post by: AAroddersAA on December 08, 2013, 11:14:38 AM
Good morning to you all to a final day of the APAT Euro Champs from a rainy Prague. 18 runners and still 3 members of the "team" players left in.
John has a bad draw - seat 3 but Ger and Richard have a few hands to settle in.
What would you do????
would you ship as soon as you get half decent cards, or do you sit tight and let the roll go, but hope that others are eliminated in the meantime and thus increase the winnings?
We would like to hear from you?
Just shove and call the correct ranges, it"s not very hard at this point.
Basically you have done the hard work, now you just need to get lucky and you have to give yourself a chance to do it.
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 11:19:45 AM
Position 8 raises with 6,000
Position 2 calls
Position 3 (John) 3 bets and goes all in
Position 4 4 bets and goes all in
Position 8 folds
Position 2 call
Position 2 shows Ah Qh
John shows A s Ks
Position 4 - Jerry (Bel) shows Ac Qc
flop
3h 6c 7s
turn
4c
river
2s
John takes it down!!!!!
Position 2 - Igor - eliminated
Well played John Murray
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qlEwoIIkgeU/UqRY-DMCPvI/AAAAAAAA91c/HybZrGkOW-A/s800/IMG_7550.JPG)
17th Place finisher - Igor Postoev
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 11:20:26 AM
Post by: AAroddersAA on December 08, 2013, 11:22:20 AM
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 11:40:33 AM
1 more position then the cash goes up again - only by 24 Euros but the ladder must be climbed
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 11:42:49 AM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5nONj80fnOs/UqRZBNS8xvI/AAAAAAAA92A/zt5YJiddXvE/s800/IMG_7555.JPG)
16th Place Finisher - Tomasz Chmiel
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 11:46:47 AM
John Murray 18000 41 3
Jerry Vandyck 128500 41 4
Eugeniv Corotchi 30000 41 5
Adam Gorski 294300 41 6
Renti Bollengier 109200 41 8
Kamil Ostaszewski 43900 41 9
Jouri Vainer 152700 40 1
Sascha Lempe 40800 40 2
Gabriel Iemmits 380700 40 3
Tino Richter 64500 40 4
Artur Sychov 101200 40 5
Richard Baker 33100 40 6
Tom Slikboer 35600 40 7
Marcel 209500 40 9
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 11:46:53 AM
Ger, Rich and John all start the day in a similar position. THe deck smacks Rich and John in the face and sends them both over the 120k mark, yet Ger doesn"t get that bit of luck.
In answer to your question Presty, it"s all relevant to the individuals perception of the money being played for.
The "real" cash is in the top 4 places, but there might be players that are influenced by the minor pay jumps.
For me, I"d be looking to get my chips in. Helps if you get hands like John and Rich have, but Ger"s spot is a pretty obvious one, just unlucky to run into the Q"s
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 11:48:20 AM
From Facebook
Richard Baker - 10mins ago
All in again with AA called by QQ. Flop 22A turn A.up to 115k
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 11:49:37 AM
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 11:51:32 AM
Post by: AAroddersAA on December 08, 2013, 11:51:55 AM
For me, I"d be looking to get my chips in. Helps if you get hands like John and Rich have, but Ger"s spot is a pretty obvious one, just unlucky to run into the Q"s
Yeah, it"s a shove though for sure. Most of the time you just pick up the blinds and antes which is fine and when you do get called you are never in that bad a spot with that hand. Like I said earlier it is about giving yourself the chance to get lucky, eitehr by picking up some premiums yourself or not running into one (or binking when you do).
Come on Rich and John.
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 11:53:43 AM
Post by: AAroddersAA on December 08, 2013, 11:55:06 AM
Is Rodders the only one with any thoughts to my question?
Thoughts is pushing it a bit. More likely to be random mutterings :)
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 11:58:54 AM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0mmY1LXWklA/UqRZAnzSufI/AAAAAAAA914/BwopWn8-Trw/s800/IMG_7553.JPG)
15th Place Finisher - Euginev Corotchi
Tom(Bel) from seat 40 has moved to seat 2 on table 41
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MzDMFTeLQFs/UqRZH_m-v-I/AAAAAAAA93M/5_89Qaf91pM/s800/IMG_7564.JPG)
Tom Slikboer, captain of Belgium, and regular forum poster on APAT. Nice to put a face to a name. ;D
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 12:02:07 PM
called by Artur Sychov Jh Jd
4d 10s 10h Jc 2d
Richard reduced to 11k
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 12:03:51 PM
S6 Richard Baker all in Ac Qc
called by Artur Sychov Jh Jd
4d 10s 10h Jc 2d
Richard reduced to 11k
That must have been a 250k+ pot. WOW.
Was it AIPF ?
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 12:05:08 PM
Table 41
1 - 145k
2 - Tom 48k
3 - John 56k
4 - Jerry 77k
5 - vacant
6 - 555k and playing v aggressive
7 - vacant
8 - 75k
9 - 65k
Table 40
1 - 28k
2 - 43k
3 - 240k
4 - 190k
5 - 149k
6 - Rich 9k
9 - 195k
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 12:09:19 PM
(http://image.hotdog.hu/user/Barbicim/TOM__JERRY_-_WITH_SPIKE.jpg)
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 12:09:19 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Gf94fglJiBg/UqRZGh7xMXI/AAAAAAAA924/v_CHPbNm_wU/s800/IMG_7563.JPG)
Did someone call for CSI ? Crimes against poker, or just the need for the fashion police ?
Either way, it"s the 14th Place Finisher, Richard "Mr Consistent" Baker
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 12:11:17 PM
Tom Slikboer 35600 40 7
John Murray 18000 41 3
Jerry Vandyck 128500 41 4
Adam Gorski 294300 41 6
Renti Bollengier 109200 41 8
Kamil Ostaszewski 43900 41 9
Jouri Vainer 152700 40 1
Sascha Lempe 40800 40 2
Gabriel Iemmits 380700 40 3
Tino Richter 64500 40 4
Artur Sychov 101200 40 5
Marcel 209500 40 9
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 12:16:09 PM
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 12:22:22 PM
Table 41
seat 2 - Tom (Bel)pushes all in
Seat 3 (John) - goes all in
Seat 4 - Jerry (Bel) goes all in too.
showdown!!!!
Tom - Qc 6c
John - 7d 7c
Jerry - 10c 10s
Ah 8d 7s 2c Ac
Tom (12th) and Jerry (13th) gone - John gets more chips
The man with the whiskers gets both Tom and Jerry!!
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MzDMFTeLQFs/UqRZH_m-v-I/AAAAAAAA93M/5_89Qaf91pM/s800/IMG_7564.JPG)
Tom
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-SgqlGytAxdg/UqRZAK-3_kI/AAAAAAAA91w/qF6aiv2xS1U/s800/IMG_7552.JPG)
Jerry
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 12:22:51 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KxrxFc98W0E/UqRY-OjtlJI/AAAAAAAA91o/36eEi1geILU/s800/IMG_7551.JPG)
John Murray with his chipstack prior to running like Usain Bolt
And here"s John after knocking out Tom & Jerry.
(http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsS/tve79887-19501021-694.jpg)
11 players remaining - average 175k
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 12:29:25 PM
John Murray 41 3
Adam Gorski 41 6
Renti Bollengier 41 8
Kamil Ostaszewski 41 9
Jouri Vainer 40 1
Sascha Lempe 40 2
Gabriel Iemmits 40 3
Tino Richter 40 4
Artur Sychov 40 5
Marcel 40 9
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 12:40:30 PM
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 12:53:40 PM
he pushed all in with about 100k.
Called by seat 5
Gabriel - 8h 3h
Seat 5 - Artur - showed Jc Ah
4d 5s 2s 10s 7d
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 12:54:26 PM
Adam Gorski 41 6 SB
JM raise, re-raise by AG called by JM - 60k pot
5d Ac 2c
check check
Ah
AG 50k
JM call
9s
AG 39k
JM call
AG 6s 5c
JM Ad Qc
JM on 260k
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 13:21:10 PM
Table 41
SB - position 8 shoves with final 35k Position 9 (BB) calls
9 - 2d 2h
8 - A s Jd
Qd 8c 7h 6h 10h
all tables moving to table 40
Good luck Jon Murray - now now circa 250k
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 13:25:04 PM
1 - 290k
2 - 85k
3 - 390k
4 - 76k
5 - 89k
6 - 133k
7 - 137k
8 - 440k
9 - John Murray - 260k
Post by: Des on December 08, 2013, 13:35:28 PM
chip stacks
1 - 290k
2 - 85k
3 - 390k
4 - 76k
5 - 89k
6 - 133k
7 - 137k
8 - 440k
9 - John Murray - 260k
Can we get names and countries and a final table pic pls boys.
Post by: ian.ski309 on December 08, 2013, 13:36:20 PM
Post by: nosey-p on December 08, 2013, 13:39:30 PM
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 13:41:54 PM
Names on the seats:
1 - Marcel (Ger)
2 - Patrice Dervisse (Fra)
3 - Adam Gorski (Pol)
4 - Tino Richter (Ger)
5 - Sascha Lempe (Ger)
6 - Artur Sychov (Czech)
7 - Kamil Ostaszewski (Pol)
8 - Jouri Vainer (Holland)
9 - John Murray (Space)
Post by: JonesLikeAJones on December 08, 2013, 13:42:17 PM
I guess i am a minority in here ;)
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 13:44:03 PM
Patrice pushes all in with 38k
Adam calls
Jouri (BB) calls
Jh 9d 9c
Jouri checks
Adam bets 38k
Jouri folds
Patrice shows 7d 6c
Adam shows Ac Js
Ah
Qh
Man down - Patrice in 9th
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 13:44:58 PM
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 13:49:44 PM
5 bets 18,500
8 calls
Jd Kh 7h
5 bets 25,500
8 raises to 70,000
5 folds
Post by: Paulie_D on December 08, 2013, 13:52:56 PM
Sent from Rocky O"Reillys. :-)
Go Damon
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on December 08, 2013, 13:54:28 PM
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 13:58:14 PM
9 (Jon) bets 17,800
8 calls
Qc 5s 4s Qs
8 - bets 20k
9 calls
Jh
8 bets 40k
John calls
8 shows Kc Qd
John doesn"t show
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 14:09:35 PM
S5 Sascha Lempe (Ger) all in 200k
called by S6 Artur Sychov (Czech) (with 90k all in) as S6 Sascha flips over A 5 saying "I got lucky" - holds
and S6 Artur departs in 8th
1 - Marcel (Ger)
3 - Adam Gorski (Pol)
4 - Tino Richter (Ger)
5 - Sascha Lempe (Ger)
7 - Kamil Ostaszewski (Pol)
8 - Jouri Vainer (Holland)
9 - John Murray (Space)
Post by: AAroddersAA on December 08, 2013, 14:15:24 PM
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 14:16:44 PM
1 - Marcel (Ger) 120k
3 - Adam Gorski (Pol) 500k
4 - Tino Richter (Ger) 120k
5 - Sascha Lempe (Ger) 560k
7 - Kamil Ostaszewski (Pol) 150k
8 - Jouri Vainer (Holland) 350k
9 - John Murray (Space) 130k
Post by: Paulie_D on December 08, 2013, 14:20:19 PM
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 14:22:37 PM
Marcel 2c 2h
Sascha Ac Qh
3c 6s Kc 6c Qd
Marcel departs in 7th
Sascha circa 700k (1.9m total in play)
Blinds 5k/10k/1k
3 - Adam Gorski (Pol) 500k
4 - Tino Richter (Ger) 120k
5 - Sascha Lempe (Ger) 560k
7 - Kamil Ostaszewski (Pol) 150k
8 - Jouri Vainer (Holland) 350k
9 - John Murray (Space) 130k
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 14:29:10 PM
3 - Adam Gorski (Pol) 425k
4 - Tino Richter (Ger) 105k
5 - Sascha Lempe (Ger) 590k
7 - Kamil Ostaszewski (Pol) 140k
8 - Jouri Vainer (Holland) 430k
9 - John Murray (Space) 170k
Post by: Paulie_D on December 08, 2013, 14:29:34 PM
What are the blinds please?
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 14:31:54 PM
Blinds 5k/10k/1k
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 14:35:10 PM
Called by S3 Adam Gorski (Pol) A s 10d
Kd Kh 4h Qh 7s
John departs in 6th
Post by: Paulie_D on December 08, 2013, 14:35:47 PM
Blinds 5k/10k/1k
Thanks Tom.
Post by: duke3016 on December 08, 2013, 14:37:07 PM
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 14:38:15 PM
3 - Adam Gorski (Pol) 600k
4 - Tino Richter (Ger) 105k
5 - Sascha Lempe (Ger) 590k
7 - Kamil Ostaszewski (Pol) 140k
8 - Jouri Vainer (Holland) 430k
Post by: Paulie_D on December 08, 2013, 14:39:34 PM
Great come back, just wasn"t to be I guess.
Post by: AAroddersAA on December 08, 2013, 14:41:24 PM
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 14:41:45 PM
3 - Adam Gorski (Pol)
4 - Tino Richter (Ger)
5 - Sascha Lempe (Ger)
7 - Kamil Ostaszewski (Pol)
8 - Jouri Vainer (Holland)
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 14:51:38 PM
Still a great effort by John again. He will be back very soon I know.
Really ? Has he booked his return flight for this afternoon then ? ;D
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 14:54:37 PM
Tino pushes his small stack with A s 9c
he is called by seat 3 with Kh 7h
4c 10d Kd 3c 7d
Tino out in 5th
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 14:58:02 PM
Kamil calls (and all in) Ah 10s
7s 7h 5d 6d 8d
Adam hits 8 on river to knock Kamil out in 4th spot
Blinds 6k/12k/1k
3 - Adam Gorski (Pol)
5 - Sascha Lempe (Ger)
8 - Jouri Vainer (Holland)
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:01:22 PM
8 on the button
5 Sascha raises to 35k
8 Jouri raises to 70k
3 Adam re-raises to 150k
5 folds
8 pushes all in
3 calls
3 shows 8s 8c
Jouri Kc Qs
6d 3c 5c 2d 7h
Jouri out in 3rd
we have our Heads up
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:04:57 PM
Heads Up between:
Adam Gorski (Pol) 1,000,000
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 900,000
Blinds 6k/12k/1k
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:13:53 PM
Sascha calls
2c 8s Kd
sascha checks
adam bets 32k
sascha calls
4c
Sascha checks, Adam bets 36k. Sacha calls
4d
Sascha checks, Adam bets 65k, Sacha calls
Adam shows
9h 4h
Sacha doesn"t show
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:15:01 PM
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:19:51 PM
Qc Ks 6h
Sacha bets 31k - called
Qh
Sacha bets 72k
adam folds
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:38:39 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 1m
Blinds 6k/12k/1k
Post by: ian.ski309 on December 08, 2013, 15:39:53 PM
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:40:32 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 1m
Blinds 6k/12k/1k
Sascha Btn raise to 28k
Adam re to 78k
Sascha call
Kh Jh 5d
Adam bet 85k
Sascha fold
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:43:27 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 900k
Blinds 6k/12k/1k
Sascha Btn
6h Kh Jh
Sascha bet 32k
Adam re to 10k Sascha fold
Post by: MintTrav on December 08, 2013, 15:44:36 PM
Adam is a cracking player. He loves to 3-bet and used his big stack well when we were down to two tables, pushing players off a lot of pots. I had several tussles with him, with mixed results. I haven"t seen Sacha before the FT, but Adam would be a worthy winner.
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:45:30 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 900k
Blinds 6k/12k/1k
Adam Btn
10h 2d Jd
Sascha check
Adam bet 28k
7s
check check
Ks
check check
Sashca shows Kc 2c
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:49:16 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 800k
Blinds 6k/12k/1k
Adam Btn
Adam raise to 26k
Sascha calls
Js 2d A s
Sascha check
Adam bet 29k
Sascha raise to 68k
Adam raise to 110k
Sascha all in
Adam fold (very quickly)
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:52:29 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger)
Blinds 6k/12k/1k
Sascha Btn
4d Qs 4s 9c
Adam 30k
Sascha call
6h
Adam 60k
Sascha fold
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:55:19 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger)
Blinds 6k/12k/1k
Adam Btn
Sascha check Adam bet 30k
Sascha call
10c 5h Qh
Sascha check Adam bet 30k Sascha call
2d
Sascha check Adam 45k Sascha call
8c
Sascha check Adam bet 55k Sascha call
Adam 4c Qd Sascha fold
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 15:55:36 PM
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 16:05:16 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger)
Blinds 8k/16k/2k
Adam Btn bet 40k Sascha call
Jd Ad 3d
Sascha check Adam bet 40k Sascha re-raise to 120k Adam fold
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 16:10:03 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 800k
Blinds 8k/16k/2k
Sascha Btn bet 38k Adam call
2h Kh 10h
Adam check Sascha 40k Adam call
5h
Adam check Sascha bet 58k Adam call
9d
Adam check Sascha bet 210k Adam fold
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 16:14:58 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 900k
Blinds 8k/16k/2k
Adam Btn
Js 8s 6s
Sascha 38k Adam call
4d
Sascha 48k Adam call
10s
Sascha 60k
Adam 130k
Sascha 320k
Adam fold
Sascha shows Kc 5c !
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 16:18:02 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 1.2m
Blinds 8k/16k/2k
Sascha Btn bet 38k Adam calls
4h 6c 2c
Adam check Sascha bet 45k Adam calls
3s
check check
As
check check
Sascha Jd 4s (Adam folds)
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 16:19:57 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 900k
Blinds 8k/16k/2k
Adam Btn Sascha bet 40k Adam call
5h 10s 3d
Sascha check Adam bet 40k Sascha call
10h Sascha check Adam bet 60k Sascha call
7h Sascha check Adam shows 4c 5d and takes pot
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on December 08, 2013, 16:25:31 PM
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 16:27:16 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 1.1m
Blinds 8k/16k/2k
Adam Btn bets 40k Sascha call
Kc Ah Kd
check check
10c
check check
6h Sascha bet 50k Adam makes it 130k Sascha calls
Adam shows Jc Kh
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 16:41:25 PM
What"s your view on the two players remaining ?
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 16:45:08 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 900k
Blinds 8k/16k/2k
Adam Btn call S raise to 40k Adam re to 85k S call
A s 7c 4c
S bet 85k A raised to 190k S calls
3h
S check A all in 538k S folds
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 16:52:36 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 1.1m
Blinds 8k/16k/2k
Sascha Btn
Def think Sascha has the better game - also a much more relaxed and expressionless demeanour - also seems happier and at ease 3 or more betting - neither of them really "over betting" though - with blinds at 10k/20k and 2m chips in play this could go on for a while (and already has!) - neither of them seems impatient at all - neither "snap" bets or calls
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 16:55:18 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 1.1m
Blinds 10k/20k/2k
Sascha Btn bets 50k A calls
3h 2c Qd
Adam check S bet 55k A raise to 125k
Post by: IrishTom on December 08, 2013, 17:14:06 PM
v
Sascha Lempe (Ger) 800k
Blinds 10k/20k/2k
Adam Button Sascha bets 50k A calls
8h 7s Kd
Sascha bets 110k, Adam pushes all in (and has Sascha covered)
Sascha calls
Adam Js Kc
Sascha Ac 8c
9s
2s
Sascha Lempe (Ger) takes the Silver medal, with Adam Gorski (Pol) crowned the ECOAP European Amateur Poker Champion 2013 - and gets coveted APAT Gold Medal - thoroughly enjoyable HU match and massive congratulations to both players.
Post by: presty on December 08, 2013, 17:20:57 PM
Time to depart from the forum now and try to enjoy Prague for the next couple of hours
Congrats to all finalists and especially Adam.
Also, a great spirit during the team events (seem so long ago!).
Maybe see you again some time
Presty
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 17:24:57 PM
Sounds like APAT kicked off the Prague Poker Festival in style.
Enjoy Prague, and safe travels home everyone.
Post by: Chipaccrual on December 08, 2013, 17:27:36 PM
Deserve a beer I reckon. Do they do beers in Prague ? ;D
Post by: Paulie_D on December 08, 2013, 17:42:09 PM
Deserve a beer I reckon. Do they do beers in Prague ? ;D
Tom and Neil have discovered that Prague DOES, in fact, have beer.
Later they are hoping to check for recreational establishments.
Expect carnage.
Post by: fandango on December 08, 2013, 21:00:04 PM
Congratulations to the three medalists, and the teams who walked away with the spoils.. Germany a class side who all played great poker for the two days, fully deserving the Gold.. Belgium who where a breath of fresh air the whole team where absolute gents and skipper Tom was good to meet him at last safe drive home guys. A great performance by the scots in the MTT to get 3 players in the points and 2 on to the final table deserved to snatch bronze from us..
Have to mention Tony sharing 2nd place in the individual points table with Duffy the guy played awesome the two days and the table banter although at some times was close to the skin was all meant in good Trippier style and fun was had by all (I think).. DO YOU KNOW WHO HE IS???
And last but by no means least a huge huge thankyou to Tom and Neil..
Never met either before Wendsday, but have to say they guys are bloody class!! Have played lots of APAT events and all the guys who have updated in the past Tighty, Leigh, Matt Mark etc etc have been worth their salts..
Tom IMO will be a invaluable addition to the APAT team, can"t praise him enough not just the updating the social side of the experience will benefit immensely!! On a personal note the experience at the start was a nightmare, the casino facilities for me where a hurdle that I thought would spoil my experience, but Tom rallied around to make sure everything was done to help to make my stay manageable.. Thankyou sir.
Great few days of poker.. Immense people around to make the whole experience special, had so much fun and so many laughs <3 APAT!!
Counting the days to WCOAP :)
Post by: LombBomb on December 10, 2013, 13:21:38 PM
Well done also to Belgium on their silver medals and what a great bunch of lads, and to Tom and Jerry, well done on your deep run in the main event! I hope to see all you guys again real soon!
Delighted we got 3rd and a bronze medal, my own performance was a disappointment but Duffy was a colossus throughout for us. Along with her, Gimac and Herbie scoring good points in the MTT saw us safely to a medal. I had a good feeling before the event that we"d be bringing back a medal so it"s nice to do it.
To the rest of the APAT regs - thanks once again for contributing towards a fantastic trip. Too many names to mention so I don"t know where to start. Prague is an amazing city and spent in amazing company too.
Finally, special mention to Tom & Presty. You both done an amazing job over the weekend and you"ll both be an invaluable addition to the APAT team. Hope you enjoyed your beers on Sunday night, you certainly deserved them.
Much love
Tom/LombBomb
Post by: Curlarge on December 10, 2013, 14:30:14 PM
Prague was a very nice place to visit for the first time and certainly lived up to the pre-match billing.
Tom and Presty, both of whom I had never met before, did an excellent job, not only as tournament hosts, but also as APAT Ambassadors.
I understand that they"re stye is not the same as Tighty"s or Leigh's, but it"s just different. They intend to get out amongst the members more than we have seen in the past and as a result the updates will not be as comprehensive as some that have gone before, but we should not forget that these guys knew almost none of us before this event and as such should be commended for the way they conducted themselves. They"re enthusiasm, which has so obviously been lacking recently, was infectious and we are in good hands if these 2 gents are allowed to carry out they"re plans for the future.
That said there was one glaring operational mis-step.
How was it that this casino held an event of this importance, when the impact of it upon England Captain so clearly was not considered.
It was a completely unsatisfactory to have to "transport" Carl up and down a flight of stairs every day, where clearly no thought had gone into the impact upon him whatsoever. Food was also an issue, as there were no facilities in the casino itself and only by a lot of cajoling did we manage to get the restaurant above the casino to send food down for him.
It appears on the surface that tagging onto a prestigious european festival was more important than the considerations of one on the team captains. Carl as always took it in stride, and tried to smile it off, but the fact remains that this was a "disabled hostile" casino and following his selection, this event should not have been held here, however good it was for the rest of us.
I would hate to think that prestige was put before member consideration, but I fear that this may have been the case here.
Post by: Des on December 10, 2013, 14:57:57 PM
Just wanted to echo the previous comments really, and add a couple of my own.
Prague was a very nice place to visit for the first time and certainly lived up to the pre-match billing.
Tom and Presty, both of whom I had never met before, did an excellent job, not only as tournament hosts, but also as APAT Ambassadors.
I understand that they"re stye is not the same as Tighty"s or Leigh's, but it"s just different. They intend to get out amongst the members more than we have seen in the past and as a result the updates will not be as comprehensive as some that have gone before, but we should not forget that these guys knew almost none of us before this event and as such should be commended for the way they conducted themselves. They"re enthusiasm, which has so obviously been lacking recently, was infectious and we are in good hands if these 2 gents are allowed to carry out they"re plans for the future.
That said there was one glaring operational mis-step.
How was it that this casino held an event of this importance, when the impact of it upon England Captain so clearly was not considered.
It was a completely unsatisfactory to have to "transport" Carl up and down a flight of stairs every day, where clearly no thought had gone into the impact upon him whatsoever. Food was also an issue, as there were no facilities in the casino itself and only by a lot of cajoling did we manage to get the restaurant above the casino to send food down for him.
It appears on the surface that tagging onto a prestigious european festival was more important than the considerations of one on the team captains. Carl as always took it in stride, and tried to smile it off, but the fact remains that this was a "disabled hostile" casino and following his selection, this event should not have been held here, however good it was for the rest of us.
I would hate to think that prestige was put before member consideration, but I fear that this may have been the case here.
Do you REALLY think that this was the case Richard???
Post by: Curlarge on December 10, 2013, 15:05:00 PM
Just wanted to echo the previous comments really, and add a couple of my own.
Prague was a very nice place to visit for the first time and certainly lived up to the pre-match billing.
Tom and Presty, both of whom I had never met before, did an excellent job, not only as tournament hosts, but also as APAT Ambassadors.
I understand that they"re stye is not the same as Tighty"s or Leigh's, but it"s just different. They intend to get out amongst the members more than we have seen in the past and as a result the updates will not be as comprehensive as some that have gone before, but we should not forget that these guys knew almost none of us before this event and as such should be commended for the way they conducted themselves. They"re enthusiasm, which has so obviously been lacking recently, was infectious and we are in good hands if these 2 gents are allowed to carry out they"re plans for the future.
That said there was one glaring operational mis-step.
How was it that this casino held an event of this importance, when the impact of it upon England Captain so clearly was not considered.
It was a completely unsatisfactory to have to "transport" Carl up and down a flight of stairs every day, where clearly no thought had gone into the impact upon him whatsoever. Food was also an issue, as there were no facilities in the casino itself and only by a lot of cajoling did we manage to get the restaurant above the casino to send food down for him.
It appears on the surface that tagging onto a prestigious european festival was more important than the considerations of one on the team captains. Carl as always took it in stride, and tried to smile it off, but the fact remains that this was a "disabled hostile" casino and following his selection, this event should not have been held here, however good it was for the rest of us.
I would hate to think that prestige was put before member consideration, but I fear that this may have been the case here.
Do you REALLY think that this was the case Richard???
Well the obstacles were so glaringly apparent for all to see, it left us all wondering how could it have happened.
Post by: Matt D on December 10, 2013, 15:11:30 PM
Well the obstacles were so glaringly apparent for all to see, it left us all wondering how could it have happened.
I"m not involved in the arrangement of live events, but I"m pretty sure this was an oversight (admittedly a regrettable one) rather than a deliberate "stitch up". It"s actually inconceivable to me that a venue would not have suitable disabled access, and to be honest, it"s probably not something I"d have thought to have checked either. Though, after hearing of the problems here, it certainly would be something I"d check in the future - if I ever became involved in planning the "live" aspect of APAT.
re: the rest of your message. Totally agree with you about Tom + Presty"s enthusiam at these kind of events. Having played previous LPPL/Poker Occassions events in the past where they were present, it was a very enjoyable experience. They are indeed a great asset, making sure everyone feels welcome, and it feels as if nothing is "too much effort" for them too :)
Post by: Paulie_D on December 10, 2013, 15:14:31 PM
It appears on the surface that tagging onto a prestigious european festival was more important than the considerations of one on the team captains. Carl as always took it in stride, and tried to smile it off, but the fact remains that this was a "disabled hostile" casino and following his selection, this event should not have been held here, however good it was for the rest of us.
I would hate to think that prestige was put before member consideration, but I fear that this may have been the case here.
Emphasis mine.
I, for one, do not believe that prestige over consideration was a factor, BUT the fact that the casino was not disabled friendly should have been made clear (or at the very least properly investigated) at the start.
Why it was not IS a matter of concern.
For my part, I would admit to a failure regarding hotel recommendations but Carl followed with direct contact with the hotel but the Akcent Hotel (in the same building) effectively lied about how disabled friendly they, so perhaps there was no "failure" as such, more of a communication gap.
I have no reason to think that APAT prioritised one thing over another but a lack of consideration, for want of a better word, (or follow up) is a cause of concern.
Carl, bless him, took it in good heart...as he is the kind to do, but that"s not the point.
Post by: Curlarge on December 10, 2013, 15:29:31 PM
Knowing which venue was being used, and this was no doubt part of the thinking to be part of a larger festival, as was the case with Wembley, the choice of England captain became crucial, for the reasons outlined previously. Carl was an excellent captain, but this was the wrong venue for him and it mustn"t be allowed to happen again.
The point of me raising this is to help ensure that it doesn"t.
Post by: AAroddersAA on December 10, 2013, 16:07:35 PM
I"m not suggesting that it was a deliberate "stitch up" or anything of the kind, it clearly wouldn"t have been or ever will be, but the venue was chosen before the players were.
Knowing which venue was being used, and this was no doubt part of the thinking to be part of a larger festival, as was the case with Wembley, the choice of England captain became crucial, for the reasons outlined previously. Carl was an excellent captain, but this was the wrong venue for him and it mustn"t be allowed to happen again.
The point of me raising this is to help ensure that it doesn"t.
I would agree with Rich here, he makes an excellent point. It is important that the team take this into consideration for future events. Somehow I don"t think it will be a problem again.
I am really pleased with the great feedback from the members who traveled to Prague. I admit to having been concerned about all the changes to APAT recently and wondered about it future. Reading the feedback here it sounds as though Des has found the right men to step in. Great to here Tom will be involved with the members hope he knows what he is letting himself in for here.
Bring on Stoke and WCOAP imo
Post by: Matt D on December 10, 2013, 16:11:23 PM
This isn"t really my department, but I"m sure lessons have been learned from this, and that venues will be fully checked in future (if indeed they weren"t checked this time, but misleading information was provided).
Post by: fandango on December 10, 2013, 17:15:17 PM
Paulie hit the nail on the head.. i was indeed "lied" to by the hotel, i (Emma) make every effort to ensure where ever we stay the disabled facilities are adequate for my needs.
I was in contact with the Akcent via email a few times regarding the disabled access they had and promised me that access into the hotel was "disabled friendly", this was clearly not the case on arrival with a flight of stairs into reception and then a ramp to get to the reception desk wich was basically a joke!! Emma in fact injured her back trying to push me up the ramp, this put an instant dampner onto the start of the trip. The room was spacious as promised and comfatable for the time i spent in there.
The casino... hmmmm well i "presumed" as the casino was part of the hotel that indeed it would have lifts and disabled facilaties :), so didnt call and confirm that this was the case, and this was a error on my behalf! as stated above i make every effort to check these things in the uk so not checking Prague was a school boy error.
I was mortified on entering the casino and then being faced by a flight of 12 rather steep steps down to cardroom floor, and when asking where the lift was and being told there wasnt one my stress levels rose and Emma was ready to catch the next flight home :(.
Now as it happened if i knew the information before hand i would definatly not of agreed to make the trip to Prague, it would of just not been the right thing to do.. But the honour of being England skip and defending my ECOAP title rather i think i would of travelled to Timbukto :D.
Im 110% sure this is just a honest oversight on APATs part, Des understood from the word go the upheavle for myself differs from most other members and understood if it was not a viable trip then he would understand my decision not to commit.. Im sure if Des or anyone else had been to the cardroom before hand realised the lack of facilities then i would of been told and not offered the position.. As i have already said it was a error on my behalf to assume the lift would be there :(.
Lets not worry about this anymore its the past ;D.. The support offered to me was bloody incredible!! in true APAT style the guys got together and just simply constructed an awesome "human elevator" of my very own simples.. Kev was amazing and i know from overhearing him speak that he wasnt drinking excessivley because he wanted to make sure i got back up the stairs in one piece :D what a true star!!
ECOAP was immense! lets not forget this, apart from the obv dissapointment not winning the team event for me and not defending my title, the poker, fun, people, friends old and new, and all round awsomeness of the few days outweighed the few hurdles put in my path.
Roll on WCOAP !!
Post by: Des on December 10, 2013, 17:35:28 PM
Would like to put my own views on what has been mentioned above..
Paulie hit the nail on the head.. i was indeed "lied" to by the hotel, i (Emma) make every effort to ensure where ever we stay the disabled facilities are adequate for my needs.
I was in contact with the Akcent via email a few times regarding the disabled access they had and promised me that access into the hotel was "disabled friendly", this was clearly not the case on arrival with a flight of stairs into reception and then a ramp to get to the reception desk wich was basically a joke!! Emma in fact injured her back trying to push me up the ramp, this put an instant dampner onto the start of the trip. The room was spacious as promised and comfatable for the time i spent in there.
The casino... hmmmm well i "presumed" as the casino was part of the hotel that indeed it would have lifts and disabled facilaties :), so didnt call and confirm that this was the case, and this was a error on my behalf! as stated above i make every effort to check these things in the uk so not checking Prague was a school boy error.
I was mortified on entering the casino and then being faced by a flight of 12 rather steep steps down to cardroom floor, and when asking where the lift was and being told there wasnt one my stress levels rose and Emma was ready to catch the next flight home :(.
Now as it happened if i knew the information before hand i would definatly not of agreed to make the trip to Prague, it would of just not been the right thing to do.. But the honour of being England skip and defending my ECOAP title rather i think i would of travelled to Timbukto :D.
Im 110% sure this is just a honest oversight on APATs part, Des understood from the word go the upheavle for myself differs from most other members and understood if it was not a viable trip then he would understand my decision not to commit.. Im sure if Des or anyone else had been to the cardroom before hand realised the lack of facilities then i would of been told and not offered the position.. As i have already said it was a error on my behalf to assume the lift would be there :(.
Lets not worry about this anymore its the past ;D.. The support offered to me was bloody incredible!! in true APAT style the guys got together and just simply constructed an awesome "human elevator" of my very own simples.. Kev was amazing and i know from overhearing him speak that he wasnt drinking excessivley because he wanted to make sure i got back up the stairs in one piece :D what a true star!!
ECOAP was immense! lets not forget this, apart from the obv dissapointment not winning the team event for me and not defending my title, the poker, fun, people, friends old and new, and all round awsomeness of the few days outweighed the few hurdles put in my path.
Roll on WCOAP !!
Absolutely shocked to hear this Carl and you have my heartfelt apologies.
When I booked this tournament several months ago it was not made clear that the venue was not wheelchair friendly, and had it been made clear I can assure you I wouldn"t have agreed to send APAT there, or indeed Everest Poker. Similarly Tom has had detailed player briefing discussions with them and again this situation was not identified. I should have picked it up, so hands up from me, and I"m truly sorry that this impacted your and Emma"s trip.
Two things I"ll say - 1) I"ll be voicing by dissatisfaction in the strongest terms to the festival organiser; who we are dealing with at the highest level. 2) We"ll never go back to this venue unless this disgraceful situation is rectified. Whether we have any disabled players in the field or not.
Finally, thanks to the community for supporting Carl"s needs in Prague. That"s a great thing and is what makes this group of people extraordinary.
Post by: fandango on December 10, 2013, 17:36:33 PM
It appears on the surface that tagging onto a prestigious european festival was more important than the considerations of one on the team captains. Carl as always took it in stride, and tried to smile it off, but the fact remains that this was a "disabled hostile" casino and following his selection,his event should not have been held here, however good it was for the rest of us.
I would hate to think that prestige was put before member consideration, but I fear that this may have been the case here.
Disagree here.. The venue was infact one of the best i have played, the dealers, TD, beer, food (once delivered), tables etc etc cant fault imo.
The event should of been held there 100%, the skipper should not of been me, or i should of investigated the event before booking flights, hotel etc etc..
Also from experience some countries ideas of "disabled friendly" are 1,000,000 miles away from here in the UK and USA ;D
Post by: fandango on December 10, 2013, 17:48:36 PM
Would like to put my own views on what has been mentioned above..
Paulie hit the nail on the head.. i was indeed "lied" to by the hotel, i (Emma) make every effort to ensure where ever we stay the disabled facilities are adequate for my needs.
I was in contact with the Akcent via email a few times regarding the disabled access they had and promised me that access into the hotel was "disabled friendly", this was clearly not the case on arrival with a flight of stairs into reception and then a ramp to get to the reception desk wich was basically a joke!! Emma in fact injured her back trying to push me up the ramp, this put an instant dampner onto the start of the trip. The room was spacious as promised and comfatable for the time i spent in there.
The casino... hmmmm well i "presumed" as the casino was part of the hotel that indeed it would have lifts and disabled facilaties :), so didnt call and confirm that this was the case, and this was a error on my behalf! as stated above i make every effort to check these things in the uk so not checking Prague was a school boy error.
I was mortified on entering the casino and then being faced by a flight of 12 rather steep steps down to cardroom floor, and when asking where the lift was and being told there wasnt one my stress levels rose and Emma was ready to catch the next flight home :(.
Now as it happened if i knew the information before hand i would definatly not of agreed to make the trip to Prague, it would of just not been the right thing to do.. But the honour of being England skip and defending my ECOAP title rather i think i would of travelled to Timbukto :D.
Im 110% sure this is just a honest oversight on APATs part, Des understood from the word go the upheavle for myself differs from most other members and understood if it was not a viable trip then he would understand my decision not to commit.. Im sure if Des or anyone else had been to the cardroom before hand realised the lack of facilities then i would of been told and not offered the position.. As i have already said it was a error on my behalf to assume the lift would be there :(.
Lets not worry about this anymore its the past ;D.. The support offered to me was bloody incredible!! in true APAT style the guys got together and just simply constructed an awesome "human elevator" of my very own simples.. Kev was amazing and i know from overhearing him speak that he wasnt drinking excessivley because he wanted to make sure i got back up the stairs in one piece :D what a true star!!
ECOAP was immense! lets not forget this, apart from the obv dissapointment not winning the team event for me and not defending my title, the poker, fun, people, friends old and new, and all round awsomeness of the few days outweighed the few hurdles put in my path.
Roll on WCOAP !!
Absolutely shocked to hear this Carl and you have my heartfelt apologies.
When I booked this tournament several months ago it was not made clear that the venue was not wheelchair friendly, and had it been made clear I can assure you I wouldn"t have agreed to send APAT there, or indeed Everest Poker. Similarly Tom has had detailed player briefing discussions with them and again this situation was not identified. I should have picked it up, so hands up from me, and I"m truly sorry that this impacted your and Emma"s trip.
Two things I"ll say - 1) I"ll be voicing by dissatisfaction in the strongest terms to the festival organiser; who we are dealing with at the highest level. 2) We"ll never go back to this venue unless this disgraceful situation is rectified. Whether we have any disabled players in the field or not.
Finally, thanks to the community for supporting Carl"s needs in Prague. That"s a great thing and is what makes this group of people extraordinary.
Des i dont think you need to apologise, to be fair i made my own measures to make sure the hotel was suitable, and obv that their "disabled friendly" to our "disabled friendly" are poles apart!!.. I should of called the casino i checked myself, i have learned from past experiences not to "assume".. IMO the casino card room was a worthy venue, just not if you are disabled.
Post by: Paulie_D on December 10, 2013, 19:05:03 PM
I absolutely think that APAT were right to be there for a number of reasons.
The event was top notch throughout. The TD, floor managers and dealers were all extremely professional...not surprising since they were imported especially for the whole Prague Poker Festival but they added a great deal to the experience and not just on the visual side. :)
As for Carl"s issue (or in fact any other less than wholly mobile person) then that certainly should, and I trust will, be brought to the event organiser"s attention.
As a (mostly) mobile person it is, perhaps, normal not to automatically consider the needs of the lesser able. Carl"s experience took the blinkers off for me when considering hotels and casinos and I"m sure that it has done the same for the APAT PTB.
Post by: fandango on December 10, 2013, 19:35:14 PM
I absolutely think that APAT were right to be there for a number of reasons.
The event was top notch throughout. The TD, floor managers and dealers were all extremely professional...not surprising since they were imported especially for the whole Prague Poker Festival but they added a great deal to the experience and not just on the visual side. :)
+1
Post by: Swinebag on December 11, 2013, 00:41:33 AM
Sadly some countries definition of "disabled friendly" is to merely be friendly to people with disabilities.
Heart warming to hear the troops rallying round, not that I would expect any less from this great community.
Thought the updates were really good for this event. It"s unfair to compare them to a tighty/chip collaboration, so I will just say that I enjoyed them and to thank the guys for a tremendous effort over 4 days.
Oh and 1 more thing: Tom and Jerry - just awesome!! :):)
Post by: DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be) on December 11, 2013, 09:03:23 AM
I also want to share my views on the tournament, but everything pretty much has been said. I"vebeen a member of the community here for some time now, playing in a few of the online events... Unfortunately regulation in Belgium only allows to play on a few regulated poker rooms and of course the APAT one isn"t part of that. That prevented me from playing online, although I still have a few bucks on my account. And I think I will be playing at least some of the events :p
During my time here I met some great people and I was hoping to meet some of you guys in real life. Being asked by Des to captain a Belgian team in Prague was the ideal occassion for that!
And what a great time we had!!! The atmosphere around the tables was always so amazing!!
2 people that I shared some staking with (Carl and GiMac), finally we met.
The entire Scottish team... We had a great time together, including a quick dinner break. Especially our team member Jan owes GiMac one... Jan is a professional trader of white slaves, but since the economic crisis, it is really though for him. GiMac suggested to focus on the black market instead, and that will be a life changer for Jan!! That was just hilarious :)
And Duffy, she is quite a character :)
The English team, with captain Carl...also Tony is a great personality. He always provided an extra laugh!
The Irish team, especially our talks with Kev. And the amazing John Murray, who knocked 2 Belgians out of the ME in the same hand... Lol... Great comeback at the start of Day 2, too bad that run ended too soon.
The German team with Matze and Alex. 2 great guys!!
IrishTom and Presty who did a great job... And all the other guys we talked to the last few days.
And to finish, I am so proud of my team Belgium!! After the first 2 SnGs we were only 6th and were all a bit of unhappy with our play, and sometimes a bit unlucky... But that"s poker of course.
But then the HU play boosted our confidence again when we won all 4 of them, including 2 against direct opponents England and Ireland.
Before the start of Day 2 I said to my team: let"s show everyone what we are worth and let"s try to get at least a table win!
Well, what an amazing round of SnGs we had on Day 2! We had 2 wins, a 2nd and a 3rd. And all of a sudden closing in on Germany who had a rocky start of the day, but in the end deserved the win.
Oh yes, and there were some extra laughs because of the "Tom and Jerry" in our team... I do understand that, and no offence taken :p
Thanks for all the kind words we received from our opponents... And I think we did our best to join in on the fun!!
Thank you Christoff, Jan and Jerry for joining me in Prague!!! We"ll try to do 1 better next year :)
Tom, a very proud captain of Team Belgium
Post by: Quadran666 (Christoff Apat.be) on December 13, 2013, 07:38:47 AM
Hi everyone,
I also want to share my views on the tournament, but everything pretty much has been said. I"vebeen a member of the community here for some time now, playing in a few of the online events... Unfortunately regulation in Belgium only allows to play on a few regulated poker rooms and of course the APAT one isn"t part of that. That prevented me from playing online, although I still have a few bucks on my account. And I think I will be playing at least some of the events :p
During my time here I met some great people and I was hoping to meet some of you guys in real life. Being asked by Des to captain a Belgian team in Prague was the ideal occassion for that!
And what a great time we had!!! The atmosphere around the tables was always so amazing!!
2 people that I shared some staking with (Carl and GiMac), finally we met.
The entire Scottish team... We had a great time together, including a quick dinner break. Especially our team member Jan owes GiMac one... Jan is a professional trader of white slaves, but since the economic crisis, it is really though for him. GiMac suggested to focus on the black market instead, and that will be a life changer for Jan!! That was just hilarious :)
And Duffy, she is quite a character :)
The English team, with captain Carl...also Tony is a great personality. He always provided an extra laugh!
The Irish team, especially our talks with Kev. And the amazing John Murray, who knocked 2 Belgians out of the ME in the same hand... Lol... Great comeback at the start of Day 2, too bad that run ended too soon.
The German team with Matze and Alex. 2 great guys!!
IrishTom and Presty who did a great job... And all the other guys we talked to the last few days.
And to finish, I am so proud of my team Belgium!! After the first 2 SnGs we were only 6th and were all a bit of unhappy with our play, and sometimes a bit unlucky... But that"s poker of course.
But then the HU play boosted our confidence again when we won all 4 of them, including 2 against direct opponents England and Ireland.
Before the start of Day 2 I said to my team: let"s show everyone what we are worth and let"s try to get at least a table win!
Well, what an amazing round of SnGs we had on Day 2! We had 2 wins, a 2nd and a 3rd. And all of a sudden closing in on Germany who had a rocky start of the day, but in the end deserved the win.
Oh yes, and there were some extra laughs because of the "Tom and Jerry" in our team... I do understand that, and no offence taken :p
Thanks for all the kind words we received from our opponents... And I think we did our best to join in on the fun!!
Thank you Christoff, Jan and Jerry for joining me in Prague!!! We"ll try to do 1 better next year :)
Tom, a very proud captain of Team Belgium
I must second that as a member of Team Belgium. We came with no expectations and went home with silver.
We were able to adjust our games on day2 in a way to beat our competitors. Great atmosphere, great organisation (apart from Carl"s problem, which is a pitty, but I must agree it"s a great venue for non disabled persons) and although we kept cheering for Scotland I must say I also liked all the other teams.
That"s also why i regged during the APAT weekend on this forum and hopefully I"ll become a regular posting member.
Hope to see you guys soon.
Anyway we took ours and APAT's p.r. seriously and got published in the biggest Belgian newspaper this morning. Here"s the link: (it"s in Dutch though...): http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail.aspx?articleid=dmf20131212_00884803 (http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail.aspx?articleid=dmf20131212_00884803)
Post by: LombBomb on December 13, 2013, 13:36:08 PM
Hi everyone,
I also want to share my views on the tournament, but everything pretty much has been said. I"vebeen a member of the community here for some time now, playing in a few of the online events... Unfortunately regulation in Belgium only allows to play on a few regulated poker rooms and of course the APAT one isn"t part of that. That prevented me from playing online, although I still have a few bucks on my account. And I think I will be playing at least some of the events :p
During my time here I met some great people and I was hoping to meet some of you guys in real life. Being asked by Des to captain a Belgian team in Prague was the ideal occassion for that!
And what a great time we had!!! The atmosphere around the tables was always so amazing!!
2 people that I shared some staking with (Carl and GiMac), finally we met.
The entire Scottish team... We had a great time together, including a quick dinner break. Especially our team member Jan owes GiMac one... Jan is a professional trader of white slaves, but since the economic crisis, it is really though for him. GiMac suggested to focus on the black market instead, and that will be a life changer for Jan!! That was just hilarious :)
And Duffy, she is quite a character :)
The English team, with captain Carl...also Tony is a great personality. He always provided an extra laugh!
The Irish team, especially our talks with Kev. And the amazing John Murray, who knocked 2 Belgians out of the ME in the same hand... Lol... Great comeback at the start of Day 2, too bad that run ended too soon.
The German team with Matze and Alex. 2 great guys!!
IrishTom and Presty who did a great job... And all the other guys we talked to the last few days.
And to finish, I am so proud of my team Belgium!! After the first 2 SnGs we were only 6th and were all a bit of unhappy with our play, and sometimes a bit unlucky... But that"s poker of course.
But then the HU play boosted our confidence again when we won all 4 of them, including 2 against direct opponents England and Ireland.
Before the start of Day 2 I said to my team: let"s show everyone what we are worth and let"s try to get at least a table win!
Well, what an amazing round of SnGs we had on Day 2! We had 2 wins, a 2nd and a 3rd. And all of a sudden closing in on Germany who had a rocky start of the day, but in the end deserved the win.
Oh yes, and there were some extra laughs because of the "Tom and Jerry" in our team... I do understand that, and no offence taken :p
Thanks for all the kind words we received from our opponents... And I think we did our best to join in on the fun!!
Thank you Christoff, Jan and Jerry for joining me in Prague!!! We"ll try to do 1 better next year :)
Tom, a very proud captain of Team Belgium
I must second that as a member of Team Belgium. We came with no expectations and went home with silver.
We were able to adjust our games on day2 in a way to beat our competitors. Great atmosphere, great organisation (apart from Carl"s problem, which is a pitty, but I must agree it"s a great venue for non disabled persons) and although we kept cheering for Scotland I must say I also liked all the other teams.
That"s also why i regged during the APAT weekend on this forum and hopefully I"ll become a regular posting member.
Hope to see you guys soon.
Anyway we took ours and APAT's p.r. seriously and got published in the biggest Belgian newspaper this morning. Here"s the link: (it"s in Dutch though...): http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail.aspx?articleid=dmf20131212_00884803 (http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail.aspx?articleid=dmf20131212_00884803)
Nice bit of publicity for you guys and well deserved :) Hopefully see you all again in a few months!
Post by: Matt D on December 13, 2013, 15:03:01 PM
Thank you very much for the publicity in the paper too! :) It"s very impressive to be featured in such a popular paper!.
Post by: Curlarge on December 13, 2013, 16:26:31 PM
Fantastic stuff! Glad to hear you (and it sounds like just about everyone else playing) enjoyed the Team Event so much :) I think Tom excelled himself with the organisation of this, and the format was one I thought worked very well.
Thank you very much for the publicity in the paper too! :) It"s very impressive to be featured in such a popular paper!.
The contribution of Presty should not be under-estimated as well. They are a formidable team imho.