Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Poker Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: Roscopiko on June 04, 2008, 10:32:42 AM
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Following Ram"s success last year we are on the verge of another WSOP coming to the UK. Londons James Akenhead has just gone heads up in event 2 with a 2:1 chip deficit.
GL....bring it home
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No bracelet for the Uk from James Akenhead just one hell of a bad beat story.
Akenhead set the trap from previous hands then (courtesy of pokernews)
"Grant Hinkle has the button in Seat 10. He raises to 350,000. Akenhead tries to pop it up again, this time by raising to 1.2 million. Hinkle moves all in and Akenhead quickly calls. Here it is! The moment we"ve been waiting for over the last two hours.
Akenhead is the one who is all in. The hands are opened:
Hinkle: td 4d
Akenhead: ah kc
Wow, a stone bluff from Hinkle and now he"s in very rough shape. The shouting has begun from the gallery, who have all suddenly found that last reserve of energy to remain on their feet. Side bets are being made on what the flop will contain. Here it comes...
th 4h ts
Oh. My. God.
Akenhead is dead to running cards. The crowd is absolutely floored. Akenhead cannot believe his misfortune. He knows he"s on thin ice. And just to add insult to injury... tc
Hinkle makes quad tens. Akenhead is drawing dead. The meaningless river completes the hand. Akenhead is eliminated in second place and collects $520,219."
Ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuucchhhh
De Wolfe has FT"d event 4 tho so fingers crossed for him.
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wow what a flop for 10 4 in that situation!!!!!!!!!!
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sick, sick, sick!!! :o
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PFFFFFFFFF!!! That "Live" Poker - it"s soooo rigged ;)
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Didn"t Doyle Brunson, flop a full house when holding 10 2, to win the world series?
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he made full houses with 10 2 to win both his WSOP main events. But dont think either were flopped and certainly not all-in pre-flop
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Although the circumstances are dramatic I would in no way describe this as "One hell of a bad beat story" - td 4d is about 34% against ah kc no?
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Although the circumstances are dramatic I would in no way describe this as "One hell of a bad beat story" - td 4d is about 34% against ah kc no?
I agree, never a bad beat story in a million years.
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Although the circumstances are dramatic I would in no way describe this as "One hell of a bad beat story" - td 4d is about 34% against ah kc no?
I dont know the correct probs but you are correct; It not really a bad beat story.
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I make it 37.1% against and true hes not a massive favourite here.
But if I"m losing 300k and a WSOP title on this hand I"m still dining out on it for many years to come.
What is the official definition of a bad beat by the way? Any suggestions?
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What is the official definition of a bad beat by the way? Any suggestions?
Whenever my chips are in the middle ;D ;D ;D
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What is the official definition of a bad beat by the way? Any suggestions?
I was going to ask this question, but you got there before me.
I play with one particular player who"s always claiming bad beats and he just makes me laugh. For example, he"s holding AA in mid position, calls the BB and the action moves on. Two further callers and it comes to me in the BB. I look down at 46o and I check.
Flop comes 75K and I bet out - 2 callers, including Mr AA.
Turn comes a 3 and I bet again - he goes all in, I call and he claims a bad beat.
I"d have to ask "Bad beat or bad play?" in most situations - Obviously this question doesn"t arise for the situation described earlier in this thread.
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Its got to based on the % chance of winning when the majority of the chips go in surely. But whats the cut off 80% ish is fairly sickening in my book but probably not worthy of a new mouse/monitor/laptop unless its for a hefty chunk of cash.
It cant be much higher or we are never going to be able to complain about anything ;)
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im playing the 10$ 100k on stars now,as soon as i get my bad beat ill post it.
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AA vs KK
okerStars Game #18005390403: Tournament #90369479, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/06/08 - 16:43:22 (ET)
Table "90369479 498" 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: slowpoke88 (2395 in chips)
Seat 2: dunc1943 (1015 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: Joska67 (8115 in chips)
Seat 4: Joeelkhunter (5135 in chips)
Seat 5: gboro780 (5342 in chips)
Seat 6: Steveholdem1 (8800 in chips)
Seat 7: mal666 (4799 in chips)
Seat 8: Real_McCoy87 (1920 in chips)
Seat 9: BiJoSi (15675 in chips)
slowpoke88: posts the ante 25
dunc1943: posts the ante 25
Joska67: posts the ante 25
Joeelkhunter: posts the ante 25
gboro780: posts the ante 25
Steveholdem1: posts the ante 25
mal666: posts the ante 25
Real_McCoy87: posts the ante 25
BiJoSi: posts the ante 25
Real_McCoy87: posts small blind 125
BiJoSi: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mal666 [Ad Jc]
slowpoke88: folds
dunc1943: folds
Joska67: raises 250 to 500
Joeelkhunter: raises 4610 to 5110 and is all-in
gboro780: folds
Steveholdem1: folds
mal666: folds
Real_McCoy87: folds
BiJoSi: folds
Joska67: calls 4610
*** FLOP *** [8d 7c Tc]
*** TURN *** [8d 7c Tc] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [8d 7c Tc Kh] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Joska67: shows [Kd Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
Joeelkhunter: shows [Ac Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Joska67 collected 10820 from pot
BiJoSi said, "ouch"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10820 | Rake 0
Board [8d 7c Tc Kh 9d]
Seat 1: slowpoke88 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 2: dunc1943 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 3: Joska67 showed [Kd Ks] and won (10820) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 4: Joeelkhunter showed [Ac Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: gboro780 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 6: Steveholdem1 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 7: mal666 (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: Real_McCoy87 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: BiJoSi (big blind) folded before Flop
if i stay in i beat em both
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only if the same cards came out, which wouldn"t have, so you"d have probably lost. good fold
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okerStars Game #18006551344: Tournament #90369479, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2008/06/08 - 17:35:21 (ET)
Table "90369479 1658" 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: DeGrizz (12855 in chips)
Seat 2: RAB26 (11900 in chips)
Seat 3: Champ80 (21234 in chips)
Seat 4: ygro (33844 in chips)
Seat 5: bissisan (49178 in chips)
Seat 6: Lazyassboy (23432 in chips)
Seat 7: spooky-XXX (24070 in chips)
Seat 8: kiwipro7 (19735 in chips)
Seat 9: mal666 (35492 in chips)
DeGrizz: posts the ante 100
RAB26: posts the ante 100
Champ80: posts the ante 100
ygro: posts the ante 100
bissisan: posts the ante 100
Lazyassboy: posts the ante 100
spooky-XXX: posts the ante 100
kiwipro7: posts the ante 100
mal666: posts the ante 100
ygro: posts small blind 500
bissisan: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mal666 [4d 5c]
Lazyassboy: raises 4000 to 5000
spooky-XXX: folds
kiwipro7: folds
mal666: folds
DeGrizz: raises 7755 to 12755 and is all-in
RAB26: folds
Champ80: folds
ygro: folds
bissisan: folds
Lazyassboy: calls 7755
*** FLOP *** [Tc 2s Jd]
*** TURN *** [Tc 2s Jd] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 2s Jd 8s] [4s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Lazyassboy: shows [As Ks] (a flush, Ace high)
DeGrizz: shows [Kd Ad] (high card Ace)
Lazyassboy collected 27910 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 27910 | Rake 0
Board [Tc 2s Jd 8s 4s]
Seat 1: DeGrizz showed [Kd Ad] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: RAB26 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 3: Champ80 (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: ygro (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: bissisan (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Lazyassboy showed [As Ks] and won (27910) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 7: spooky-XXX folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: kiwipro7 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 9: mal666 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
he wasnt happy
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PokerStars Game #18009332613: Tournament #90369479, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIV (8000/16000) - 2008/06/08 - 19:42:49 (ET)
Table "90369479 1278" 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: ML58 (350216 in chips)
Seat 2: COBpoker (343089 in chips)
Seat 3: derek8 (289578 in chips)
Seat 4: Najers (53107 in chips)
Seat 5: Tizzle 10 (280168 in chips)
Seat 6: mal666 (162084 in chips)
Seat 7: skygood1 (427723 in chips)
Seat 9: Grimwell (587957 in chips)
ML58: posts the ante 1600
COBpoker: posts the ante 1600
derek8: posts the ante 1600
Najers: posts the ante 1600
Tizzle 10: posts the ante 1600
mal666: posts the ante 1600
skygood1: posts the ante 1600
Grimwell: posts the ante 1600
Tizzle 10: posts small blind 8000
mal666: posts big blind 16000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mal666 [7s 9c]
Grimwell said, "yea at least..."
derek8 said, "lol"
skygood1: folds
Grimwell: folds
derek8 said, "nah i had queens gf"
ML58: folds
COBpoker: folds
derek8 said, ":)"
honktydonkty is connected
derek8: folds
Najers: raises 35507 to 51507 and is all-in
Tizzle 10: folds
mal666: calls 35507
Grimwell said, "lol"
*** FLOP *** [4s 9d 3s]
Grimwell said, "nh then:P"
*** TURN *** [4s 9d 3s] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [4s 9d 3s 4c] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mal666: shows [7s 9c] (two pair, Nines and Fours)
Najers: shows [8h 4d] (a full house, Fours full of Threes)
Najers collected 123814 from pot
COBpoker said, "sick"
Najers said, "lol"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 123814 | Rake 0
Board [4s 9d 3s 4c 3h]
Seat 1: ML58 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 2: COBpoker folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 3: derek8 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: Najers (button) showed [8h 4d] and won (123814) with a full house, Fours full of Threes
Seat 5: Tizzle 10 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: mal666 (big blind) showed [7s 9c] and lost with two pair, Nines and Fours
Seat 7: skygood1 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 9: Grimwell folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
solid call gets punished
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the badbeats are slow in coming tonight so i decided i would lay one myself on some sucker. here it is.
PokerStars Game #18009704382: Tournament #90369479, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXV (10000/20000) - 2008/06/08 - 20:01:29 (ET)
Table "90369479 1828" 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: gp3007 (39808 in chips)
Seat 2: mal666 (76385 in chips)
Seat 3: bmlxxl (336400 in chips)
Seat 4: 2drunk2care9 (154158 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: gimmemooren (287541 in chips)
Seat 6: theepp44 (192782 in chips)
Seat 8: Heartman (165236 in chips)
Seat 9: oNamthemaNo (147409 in chips)
gp3007: posts the ante 2000
mal666: posts the ante 2000
bmlxxl: posts the ante 2000
2drunk2care9: posts the ante 2000
gimmemooren: posts the ante 2000
theepp44: posts the ante 2000
Heartman: posts the ante 2000
oNamthemaNo: posts the ante 2000
gp3007: posts small blind 10000
mal666: posts big blind 20000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mal666 [7d 3d]
bmlxxl: raises 32345 to 52345
2drunk2care9: folds
sprstoner is connected
gimmemooren: folds
theepp44: folds
Heartman: folds
oNamthemaNo: folds
gp3007: calls 27808 and is all-in
mal666: calls 32345
*** FLOP *** [5h 3c Qd]
mal666: bets 22040 and is all-in
bmlxxl: calls 22040
*** TURN *** [5h 3c Qd] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [5h 3c Qd 3h] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mal666: shows [7d 3d] (three of a kind, Threes)
bmlxxl: shows [Ad As] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
mal666 collected 73154 from side pot
gp3007: shows [Jh 9h] (a pair of Threes)
mal666 collected 129424 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 202578 Main pot 129424. Side pot 73154. | Rake 0
Board [5h 3c Qd 3h 2s]
Seat 1: gp3007 (small blind) showed [Jh 9h] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 2: mal666 (big blind) showed [7d 3d] and won (202578) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 3: bmlxxl showed [Ad As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 4: 2drunk2care9 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 5: gimmemooren folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 6: theepp44 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: Heartman folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 9: oNamthemaNo (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
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I only count live bad beats these days, cos you get so many online. So here is what I consider a bad beat although that said it fails your 80% criteria. Sitting in $1m gtd $2500 entry APT Event in Manila. Blinds are 150/300 with 25 ante. I"ve been card dead for a while and have a tight, yes I said tight, table image. Guy limps in early position, which normally would have alarm bells ringing, but this guy has been doing this with weak Aces and was doing it the day before playing cash too. If he has anything better than A 10 in any position he is raising. one caller, and I look down at J J on button. I raise it up to 1500, he is the sole caller.
Flop comes 4 5 7 Rainbow
He checks and I push all in for 5500, with a pot of 4k out there I"m happy to take there and then, but also happy if he call cos I know I am miles in front. He thinks for ages and eventually says "I have 6 outs Gordon, I"m going to call", he makes the call and shows A 8 offsuit.
Turn Q
River 6 to hit his inside straight draw, which was one of his 7 outs (he didn"t even have that right. ::))
Live Poker is Soooooo Rigged. ::)
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You seem to have gone pretty deep in the $100K, mal666. Where did you finish?
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I"m willing to give that one Gordon but the others seem a bit harsher than me.
At least he"s given you some solid justification for his call ???
You can only get them in good!
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Considering the comment in this game this has to be one of my biggest pre flop bad beats ever!!!
POKERSTARS GAME #18046807951: TOURNAMENT #91582285, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD"EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL I (10/20) - 2008/06/10 - 14:49:27 (ET)
Table "91582285 17" 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: OnehandedMen (1818 in chips)
Seat 2: gruff35 (1200 in chips)
Seat 3: GDPito (3104 in chips)
Seat 4: roscopiko (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: fishermanITA (1300 in chips)
Seat 6: tocci88 (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: rip32raptors (1470 in chips)
Seat 8: anjolan (1100 in chips)
Seat 9: goofyhumor (1400 in chips)
anjolan: posts small blind 10
goofyhumor: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to roscopiko [ac ah]
OnehandedMen: raises 46 to 66
gruff35: calls 66
GDPito: raises 114 to 180
roscopiko: raises 1320 to 1500 and is all-in
fishermanITA: folds
tocci88: folds
rip32raptors: folds
anjolan: folds
goofyhumor: folds
OnehandedMen: folds
gruff35: folds
GDPito: calls 1320
OnehandedMen said, "fold JJ"
*** FLOP *** [ :2d: td kh]
OnehandedMen said, "lol"
*** TURN *** [:2d: td kh] [qd]
*** RIVER *** [:2d: td kh qd] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GDPito: shows [jd js] (a straight, Nine to King)
roscopiko: shows [ac ah] (a pair of Aces)
OnehandedMen said, "rofl"
roscopiko said, "ffs"
GDPito collected 3238 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1438 | Rake 0
Board [:2d: td kh qd 9c]
Seat 3: GDPito showed [jd js] and won (3238) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 4: roscopiko showed [ac ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
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You seem to have gone pretty deep in the $100K, mal666. Where did you finish?
98th,1 bluff too many im affraid.