Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Poker Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: batch007 on July 29, 2008, 19:43:55 PM
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I would like anyones advice, only been playing for just couple of years and i have quilified for a seat at luton leg 6. can anyone give me some advice, im chewing chair. Never even played live ??BLUFF?? ( apart from friends houses ) so im going to spanked. Also someone told me that they saw on a forum Who is batch007 as i had taken a few gtorns down. so i tryed searching on the internet ( put in poker forum batch007 ) or something like that, and it came up with a site that logs all peoples states, You have to pay for it but it gives you a taster for free and all my states came up from the different sites and i was shocked. Are poker sites allowed to realise my details like this??? shocked that it can happen and thought of bank details came into mind. these are suppose to be secure sites. cheers me up when two sites had me in the top five and i have never played anything but bank rolled from free rolls.lol I know this is two questions but any advice would be appriciated.
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Funny.
If you play at ipoker as batch007 then you"ve got a nice little
fish bowl next to your name at sharkscope, and your on tilt. :o
Trouble with sharkscope (dont know about pokerdb or any others) is that they basically only track SNGs. So you could be making a fortune on the cash tables and play the odd SNG for fun which you lose and you look like a fish. Albeit a fish
with a v. healthy roll.
All the data is freely available. You could just login and track players
if you had the time and inclination or have pokertracker datamine or
track down fishy tables for you.
I wouldn"t worry about the stats, just concentrate on sharpening your
own game and enjoy a big poker game.
ATB
Mayfair
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i dont play sit and goes just multi table torns so i do not know where thay get there fiqures from. I also found myself on t6 which i only played a couple of times but they rank me 5th best steps players. Im happy being known as a fish but not sure i like the watching of states without being known. Never mind any tips for fridays big game for me.
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Never played in a GUKPT game before, but whenever I"ve found myself in a game that I consider to be above my bankroll and my standard I just try and learn as much from the occasion as possible under the assumption that i"ll be playing in those games more regular at some stage in the future when I"ve reached that standard and have the funds.
Also enjoy it, try not to be intimidated and back yourself. You don"t want to bleed to death and go home and have to accept that when you had a shot to play in the big games you played like a great big scared nancy boy as I have done once or twice. I still haven"t forgiven myself for some previous performances.
Finally, try not to get absolutely sh*t faced as you may not recall all the things you were trying to learn.
Goodluck, I"ll be there for some of the side games.
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Never played in a GUKPT game before, but whenever I"ve found myself in a game that I consider to be above my bankroll and my standard I just try and learn as much from the occasion as possible under the assumption that i"ll be playing in those games more regular at some stage in the future when I"ve reached that standard and have the funds.
Also enjoy it, try not to be intimidated and back yourself. You don"t want to bleed to death and go home and have to accept that when you had a shot to play in the big games you played like a great big scared nancy boy as I have done once or twice. I still haven"t forgiven myself for some previous performances.
Finally, try not to get absolutely sh*t faced as you may not recall all the things you were trying to learn.
Goodluck, I"ll be there for some of the side games.
Only ever played with you once, but really can"t imagine you playing like a "great big scared nancy boy"!! (also can"t imagine you playing whilst not absolutely ****faced!! :) )
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thank you, thats the sort of goals i have set myself, i will just play my game as i have always done and it seems to pay more than loose and has bank rolled me this far. The game side of it i will be ok its more the occasion. big thing for me and i dont want to get lost with nerves in the occasion. do you take anything special with you, might have a bet on myself because my odd must be worth a pound or two. If you go ill be the one with the blue square polo with batch007 on it. Just the experience of being there will be a bonus. once the game starts ill get in my zone but the build up and the event is something else. Only been playing for a couple of years, just over one year on line and i am confident in my game but not confident of the surroundings. But i need to step up my game as i get a finance from poker at the level i play and is comfortable but i need this to take make the next step. Just has come quicker than i thought. Its like playing $5 dollar sit and go then moving up to $100 dollar when you bank roll will not sustain a couple of loses. But it is free so no effect on the bank roll, and i know my game will get me to this level. just out of my comfort zone.
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Only ever played with you once, but really can"t imagine you playing like a "great big scared nancy boy"!! (also can"t imagine you playing whilst not absolutely ****faced!! :) )
Ha, was that the Welsh APAT event? I was a little bit tipsy but not too bad.
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/Doyourow/drunk.jpg)
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Yep - you were sat on my immediate left ALLLLLLLLLL day
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I wasn"t in the thing all day! I"ve had some sessions at Tony Adams" Sporting Chance clinic since then. I"m..better now.
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I have played two GUKPT and freerolled one of them, they were miles above my bankroll and was pretty daunted at the thought of playing them to be honest.
The main things I would recommend to you is to take your time and think before you make take any action at the table. After the first level you will just relax into it as normal and you can enjoy the day. The build up really is the worst part.
Also remember at all times how deep stacked you are. If you are playing live for the first time you need to always know exactly how many chips you have and roughly what the rest of the table has which can keep the mind ticking during the hours of folding and stop you from making pricing mistakes into other players.
Don"t bother watching the tourney average just make decisions based on your stack size relative to the blinds.
Good luck, I"m sure you"ll enjoy it once it starts.
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Hi
Cant really give you any advise as I have never played one, but this is a good line to follow
The main things I would recommend to you is to take your time and think before you make take any action at the table. After the first level you will just relax into it as normal and you can enjoy the day. The build up really is the worst part.
Also remember at all times how deep stacked you are. If you are playing live for the first time you need to always know exactly how many chips you have and roughly what the rest of the table has which can keep the mind ticking during the hours of folding and stop you from making pricing mistakes into other players.
Don"t bother watching the tourney average just make decisions based on your stack size relative to the blinds.
Good luck, I"m sure you"ll enjoy it once it starts.
Play tight and in postition, and try and learn as much as you can. You may be fortunate to get some good names on your table, listen and learn, or thats what I would be doing..
Good luck and take it down..
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hi matey ,
i am sure i played with you online , if you want a chat before you start i have played quite a few of these and am playing luton. Although i dont think my advice can be too good seen as though i aint cashed in any !
Anyway i take it you qualified online so ask one of the blue square boys to point me out or just listen foe the loudest scouser you see there !! We can have a beer to settle your nerves woop woop
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....or just listen foe the loudest scouser you see there !! .....
He means it! He really really does!!
(Iron Maiden full blast on my iPod didn"t drown him out it in Blackpool ;D)
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we have been on a few final tables on blue square scouse i can remember. I quilified on line though the inside poker torn. I have placed second in the leaque a few times but scholper of what ever his name is pipped me everytime. I just am comfortable cashing in on line and my local game is a good pot too so this is a little out of my comfort zone. It was something i was aim for but came a bit quickly as not been playing long but i am getting a repuatation on line and would love to take that onto the circuit. Its a freebee so im just going to enjoy it and gain the expereince. My bank roll is ticking over nicely but another question, when would you consider being a poker player for a living?? know this may seem a silly question for some. I try and gamble sensible and my poker started off paying for its self. I now earn enough to fund a wage.i would love to play pro but im just learning. I win enough on-line to draw a regular wage and i win enough to fund a dry spell but i always had that as an extra, now i feel i could play more and fund live play and draw a wage but i always had my wage as a safety net so that poker was a hobby not a living. if i did not have tha safety net i think i would effect my judgement. but for me to take my ganme to the next level that safety net is getting in the way. what would anyone suggest.
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Hi batch good luck with Luton, just play your own game and dont worry about others. Above all believe in your own ability.
As for turning pro. I am sorry to say the fact you have to ask that question means you know the answer.
All the best
Duncthehat
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I had a week of work last week and i won my ticket to luton, i earned the same value of my wage for 4 months and i had all day to select my tables selectively. I have been playing steps really, best way to describe it is that i am confident in my game but i know that lady luck can beat the best of players, also there are going to be games were you just do not get any cards what so every. If i take into consideration that In three games I will win one, i will be beat by luck and one i will not get any play. So with this reasoning I need to play six games to gain a worthy profit for sitting. and So I started on $5 dollar torns, donk level but experience and I only moved up to $10 dollar torns when i had a bank roll of $150 dollar profit. This would fund 6 six torns at $5 level and 6 at $10 so i could afford to move up a level and still play my regular level with poker bankrolling its-self. When the $10 dollar torns were funding itsself i stopped playing the $5 dollar level. Using ths process i have moved up the levels of play (still playing free roll ) and at a good level. I can fund big torns as well as keeping my regular games. I know i am no pro as the title goes but i am now at a level wish means i earn money. Amteur still but as described above i had a week off work and a could be more selective of games and my mind was channelled to the game, and as i could play more games my bank roll or the week was good, better than my regular wage. I would love to just play poker and i have the long term form to show i could make it pay but A im worried i would poker myself out, B i know the wage is unstable C my wife would kill me. So im interested what others would advise. Should i use the same principe as i have used a say that when i have the bankroll to fund a year off work then do it as my regular income is covered. I understand what the above said i know the answer, because i am doubtful then im answering the question myself, and i am a sensible person so i would do the right thing but the deep voice in my head says do it. And lets face it thats poker , if i never listerned to the voice at the back of my head i would never make thecalls to win. dont get me wrong not saying im a pro and never would say that im near that level but i can earn a wage from poker but do i have the confidence to make that step, i think like the above said i have answered that question in asking the question but i would be interested to know when pros or people who make a living from poker decided to make that step.
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You have to accomodate the downswings - they are a fact of life and poker. During those downswings when you consistently fail to win (and no matter how good you are, or who you are, or what level you play it, they are real and very painful), you still need to be able to pay the mortgage and the bills.... and you should consider that a downswing could last as long as 6 months!
I"ve often thought about what it would take to give up and work and take a living from poker, but that"s not going to happen until I can get a big enough win somewhere to pay off the mortgage and de-risk my livelihood, and also give me a big enough bankroll that will cope with a downswing and still support payment of the bills.
In other words, when the price of fuel hits 10p per litre in the UK, and Gordon Brown says something sensible, and West Brom win the premiership..... I might just consider giving up work in favour of poker!
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The other thing to take into account is that during the day the "average" stardard of play is high, then in the evening and over night.
That is not to say you can"t make money during the day, it"s just that your hourly rate is likely to be lower.
Therefore keeping your job as long as it"s normal office hours still gives you the opportunity to play during the "best" hours, without the risk. If you start to earn as much as your salary during these hours and do this consistantly for a year, then you will likely have a suffient bankroll to give it a go.
I"d also suggest setting aside a weeks annul holiday to give it a go for the whle of that week to see if you adjust and have the drive to play enough hours and give you sufficient return.
;D
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i have done that this week, gave it a trail and i find that i am cashing in more in the day and late at night which i can play without work commitment but i need to give it a longer trial. because nobody knows me or my game it is easier to cash in. Do not what to give too much away to why i choose the games i do but i am comfortable at this level. I considering moving to part time work anyway now as financial commitments means i can semi retire ( only 31 i know) but i have incomes that could support part time, freeing up the time and giving it a trial. I think im more worried of getting pokered out. I need to step my game up but to get to torns and play the curcuit it is hard to find the employment that would give you the time to commit to poker. All holidays are family committed so the only commitment i can give to poker is internet. Need to take it to the live stage and get expereince because although the money is there at internet level the big money is live.
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Need to take it to the live stage and get expereince because although the money is there at internet level the big money is live.
Sorry but I think you are misguided there. Consider the cash tables in a casino. You can play one at a time, and are lucky to get through 20 hands in an hour..... wheras online you can play as many tables as you can cope with, and each plays up to 100 hands per hour..... so if multitabling 3 tables, that"s 1200 hands in a four hour online session, compared to 80 hands in a four hour live session.
As for tournament play, there are enough big money tournaments around online to keep most people satisfied, particularly on Sunday nights. Every night on Stars there are a selection of $100+ MTTs.
If you are looking for the WSOP or EPT main event win to get your "big money", you are still several years away in terms of experience, and you could lose a fortune trying. Also, before you can even consider that level, you need to build a suitable bankroll to justify the buy ins.
To make a living playing live, you will spend most of your life at the table, and really need to be in Vegas where the games are on tap. Alternatively, 8 hours per day online grinding the cash - there is a living to be made there!
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Have to agree with ARMN, the big money is online not Live. Live is where you can make a name for yourself, but that"s for ego not big money and cash tables make more money than tournies.
;D
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understand, and agree misguided. On-line is where the money is and the ego is with the live games. just want some recoginition i think but having no experience of live curcuit i was mis placed in believing that is where the money is. thanks for all the advice so far by everyone, im new to poker so need to keep my feet on the ground but my head has been flustered with this damn free ticket. I know that experience is what i will gain and anything else is a bonus but i hope it is not a free taster and i get the bug.