I am a litle Confused as to who shows their cards first at a show down ???
and i wondered if there are any budding TD"s out there that can clarify a few things for me?
If a hand goes to a show down (heads up) then which player would show first in the following scenario"s
1 Player A bets and player B calls.
2 Player A checks, Player B Bets and Player A calls that bet.
3 Both players check!
And can some one let me know the etiquite of seeing a loosing hand before it is mucked, i was under the impression that the only player that should ask to see a loosing hand is a player who is also in the pot!
Cheers.
Robbie
3. nearest dealer (clockwise)
Anyone on the table can ask to see a players hand, but this is as good
as accusing them of cheating.
At a showdown a hand MUST be shown to win the pot.
So if someone was bluffing and gets a call, then mucks the caller must still show
his hand.
3. nearest dealer (clockwise)
Um no. This is, depending on the rules used, either the first player that checked (so the first player after the button) or the last player that bet/raised.Anyone on the table can ask to see a players hand, but this is as good
as accusing them of cheating.
Again, this depends on the rules used. Either what you said, or only players in the hand at showdown, can request to see down hands. Mucked hands (e.g. hands that are placed in the muck pile by the dealer) can only be retrieved by the TD in unusual situations.
Etiquette wise, asking to see a hand is considered rude. This option is in place for players to check for colluding. For example, player A who is chip leader checks holding a set and player B checks holding not much but is very short and they are good friends. In this case, player A could dump her/his chips to player B by mucking the hand. This, of-course, is a form of cheating.
What I like in on-line play is that mucked hands at showdown can always be seen by all players via the hand history. Live I will wait for the other player to show in 90% of the case, in order to gain just that little bit of extra information. If a hand is played very weird, in some cases I do indeed ask to see a down hand. But this is very very rare.At a showdown a hand MUST be shown to win the pot.
So if someone was bluffing and gets a call, then mucks the caller must still show
his hand.
Correct. The reason is that player A who mucked is, in fact, playing the board. Thus for player B to claim the pot, (s)he must show a hand that beats the board. In addition to this, a "shown hand" is always two cards, so showing one ace will not do it.
many places will insist that if a hand goes to showdown, ALL hands left in are shown, even if the holder of the hand concedes defeat. This is to protect against soft play or deliberate mucking of a winning hand.
I think i saw in a tv tournament where they were saying that the player who performed the last aggressive action in the hand had to show first?
Seems I am just plain rude then cos I always ask to see a mucked hand when allowed to do so.
Didn"t realise this was bad ettiquette and will buck up my ideas in future, sorry folks.
At a showdown a hand MUST be shown to win the pot.
So if someone was bluffing and gets a call, then mucks the caller must still show
his hand.
At a showdown a hand MUST be shown to win the pot.
So if someone was bluffing and gets a call, then mucks the caller must still show
his hand.
Correct. The reason is that player A who mucked is, in fact, playing the board. Thus for player B to claim the pot, (s)he must show a hand that beats the board. In addition to this, a "shown hand" is always two cards, so showing one ace will not do it.
Not sure this is correct, if you muck your hand I would have thought your not playing any hand.(You"ve mucked and therefore conceded)....
I wonder if by luck, it also prevents too much bluffing, and force a more correct line of play, otherwise i suppose every game may turn into a crap shoot when we may as well then play 3 card brag or another game of just balls and gambling.
I wonder if by luck, it also prevents too much bluffing, and force a more correct line of play, otherwise i suppose every game may turn into a crap shoot when we may as well then play 3 card brag or another game of just balls and gambling.
if ther is waggering on the final betting round
whats waggering?
I wonder if by luck, it also prevents too much bluffing, and force a more correct line of play, otherwise i suppose every game may turn into a crap shoot when we may as well then play 3 card brag or another game of just balls and gambling.
Errrrr, and we could call it poker!?
I wonder if by luck, it also prevents too much bluffing, and force a more correct line of play, otherwise i suppose every game may turn into a crap shoot when we may as well then play 3 card brag or another game of just balls and gambling.
Well if that isn"t the damdest thing I ever read!!!(http://grza.net/GIS/Bush%20Scratching%20Head.jpg)
Sorry if i"m teaching grandma to suck eggs with this one. Whilst on the subject of showing cards, we all know that if the dealer exposes a card, then all the table should be made aware of what that card is, it"s information, right?
Similarly at showdown or where all have folded, and the guy who won the pot by default, then shows his mate what he was holding(his hole cards), In a Tournament it"s a case of show one show all, You cannot give one player information, he could later use in another hand against You, and put all else at a disadvantage,The others who haven"t seen what cards you raised with ie utg, in a tourney.
Cash again, at least when I"ve played, if you win the pot, when all fold, you can show one person if you wish to. The others are politely told to do one as they have not payed to see your cards. I personally either don"t show, otherwise turn them on their backs for all to see. I can"t see why you would want to risk starting an argument. Some do it to prove a point??? game slows down, atmosphere changes etc, and lets face it if your winning why would you want anything to change.
Just be nice and polite at the tables, it doesn"t cost anything, but could cost you an awful lot if your not nice. ::) Here endeth the lesson ::)
Does anyone else play it differently in their games elsewhere?