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Title: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: Waz1892 on September 13, 2008, 20:50:53 PM
was he right..am i a fish..be bruttaly honest , please....i need to learn if so

blinds .500 / 1000..i have 6900 he has 6700

he opens in ep 2000.. ah kh
i call in BB 1k.. 7s :3h:

all other have folded

flop
7d 5d :2d:

i check..he raises2250...i re-raise,,4970...he called....

7c on turn .blank on river

i argued i knew he didnt have pair as wud have rasied more?....he called me a fish for calling his big bet

ur thoughts....

Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: AMRN on September 13, 2008, 21:00:25 PM
having only 6 big blinds left behind having posted the BB for this hand, there is no way I"m just flat calling the raise preflop...... it"s either got to be a shove or fold preflop.
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: Chipaccrual on September 13, 2008, 21:08:04 PM
I think he"s wrong calling you a fish in that situation.  Not enough of a raise from him for you to fold.  A sort of any two cards call.
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: HaworthBantam on September 13, 2008, 21:34:29 PM

His small raise in early position begs action, and when he gets it he moans and witters ?

You"re not the fish.....
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: billyho10 on September 13, 2008, 22:08:40 PM


His small raise in early position begs action, and when he gets it he moans and witters ?

You"re not the fish.....


what he said!
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: Roscopiko on September 13, 2008, 22:09:07 PM
fkn fish
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: Waz1892 on September 13, 2008, 22:24:41 PM
ty so far...i ending up qualifiying for the next stage top 10 out of 230 runners so pleased at that..
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: bigredders on September 13, 2008, 23:12:36 PM
he is an idiot! players that want action then moan when they are beat..and that fact that he said that probably means he knows he was wrong but didnt want to admit it... can guarantee he is a losing player with that attitude! :D
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: George2Loose on September 14, 2008, 00:18:50 AM
With you stack this a fold pre flop.

You both playe dthe hand pretty poorly to be brutally honest. He should be shoving in this spot
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: Waz1892 on September 14, 2008, 07:48:00 AM

With you stack this a fold pre flop.

You both playe dthe hand pretty poorly to be brutally honest. He should be shoving in this spot


i did ask, so ty for ur brutal comments!!.. :)
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: baldaceguy on September 14, 2008, 15:43:06 PM
Raise to small.Should have shoved bearing the state of play.Then cant complain when you hit a cheap flop.
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: George2Loose on September 14, 2008, 15:44:26 PM


With you stack this a fold pre flop.

You both playe dthe hand pretty poorly to be brutally honest. He should be shoving in this spot


i did ask, so ty for ur brutal comments!!.. :)


No worries- most of the time this is a losing play but it isn"t any TOO horrendous- as someone said earlier he shouldnt mini raising if he doesnt want the BB calling with trash
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: WarBwastardo on September 14, 2008, 17:38:38 PM
Not sure why he"s only making it 2,000 when he"s so short.  His hand isn"t so strong that he should be messing about with girly raises.  I"d have shoved in his case and in your case facing the min raise I"d fold or shove it all it.  Hard to fold post-flop when you"ve committed 2,000 of your remaining 6,900.  I think I"d have folded and hoped for a better spot to get my remaining stack in before I bleed away.

It"s a bit daft of him really to tease you into playing the pot and then have a whinge cause you did what he wanted you to do. 
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: TopPair2Pair on September 14, 2008, 21:14:00 PM

was he right..am i a fish..be bruttaly honest , please....i need to learn if so


Depends on if its online, live, buy in level? etc

I would hazard a guess towards him being a fish because he lost the hand!!
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: Waz1892 on September 14, 2008, 22:24:57 PM


was he right..am i a fish..be bruttaly honest , please....i need to learn if so


Depends on if its online, live, buy in level? etc

I would hazard a guess towards him being a fish because he lost the hand!!


it was a GUKPT freeroll on Bsq, 230 players...top 10 qualify....i ended up finishing 4th, and thus qualifying for tonights 15 player $5 re-buy (I had no money to re-buy!!)......im delighted to state that i have WON this too...and now im in the super sat on wed with 2 GUKPT tournie guaranteed.....so fish or no fish..this fish is hitting hot ;D
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: LongshanksED on September 14, 2008, 22:30:06 PM
he was giving you 3.5 or 4/1 odds to call

with a good amount of chips its a mandatory call with almost any 2 cards


now - the other guy shouldve raised more to chase you out - and blinds as they where shouldve been all in


if you had called his all in i"d call you a fish

but you played it correctly
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: Swinebag on September 14, 2008, 22:42:44 PM

he was giving you 3.5 or 4/1 odds to call

with a good amount of chips its a mandatory call with almost any 2 cards


now - the other guy shouldve raised more to chase you out - and blinds as they where shouldve been all in


if you had called his all in i"d call you a fish

but you played it correctly


dont agree with this. Pot odds are only part of a poker decision. Yes you are getting 3.5 to 1 to call, so a call seems mandatory. But, it is also too much of your stack and therefore it has to be a fold (i.e. what george said) With your stack, you are in push/fold mode and he"s clearly calling a shove so fold.

Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: hi_am_chris on September 15, 2008, 00:32:24 AM
75 percent of the time or more your going to check fold the flop and then uve just dusted off some of ur fold equity
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: Santino67 on September 15, 2008, 16:31:00 PM
He"s gagging for a call as you already have the BB in the pot. Assuming there"s only you two in the pot there"s now 3.5k in pot and 1k to call. The odds are there if you"ve got a decent read on the opponent. It"s a push or fold situation IMO and if you pushed he"d call in a second and result would"ve been the same.

You got lucky but it was brought on by the other player giving you options in the first place.
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: hi_am_chris on September 15, 2008, 16:44:35 PM
Usually someone raising that small will have a huge pair in that situation so then you call hit top pair and have to stack off against overpair and possible flush draw on that board? even if they guy has ak with the a or k of diamonds hes even money on that flop, just fold and wait for a better spot
Title: Re: Was I wrong to call...
Post by: George2Loose on September 15, 2008, 16:53:26 PM
Have to agree with chris- pot odds is never the only consideration in a tournament- stack size is also important