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Poker Forum => Strategy => Topic started by: noble1 on January 14, 2009, 21:22:36 PM

Title: working out pot odds / equity example
Post by: noble1 on January 14, 2009, 21:22:36 PM: waz :2c: :2s:
swinebag ah ad
noble1 7d :3d:

waz 3000 chips
swinebag 3000 chips
noble1 3000 chips

swinebag raises to 300
noble1 calls 300
waz calls 300 pot - 900

flop - :2d: 5d jh

swinebag goes all in 2700
noble1 calls all in 2700 pot - 6300
waz ??

waz has a set , it will cost him 2700 to win 6300.. the odds are 6300 divided by 2700 6300/2700 = 2.33 to 1

2.33to1 worked into equity is 2.33+1=3.33 so now all we do is divide 1 by 3.33 and times by 100 and this will give us our equity..

1/3.33*100=30.03% equity 2.33to1

waz decides to put swinebag on a over pair QQ KK AA maybe JJ , noble1 is a utter donk who gambles without thinking often with top pair or flush draws maybe 2 pair so Waz gives him a range like AJ KJ QJ TJ Axs KQs J5 52 J2

Waz now puts it through pokerstove - the results look like this

Waz :2c::2s: - 68.729% board - 2D 5D JH
swinebag JJ+ - 20.750%
noble1 A2s+,KJs+,QJs,JTs,J5s,J2s,52s,J5o,J2o,52o - 11.234%

waz sees that he is 1/2 on [68%] and he is getting 30.03% so it is a easy call ...
waz knows that if his pokerstove equity result is higher than the actual pot equity
in this case 68% pokerstove to pot equity 30% then it is a correct call..
Title: Re: working out pot odds / equity example
Post by: Waz1892 on January 14, 2009, 21:33:22 PM: noble1.....wow..thank-you...Waz understands much much better!!!

you have my word i will take this on board and work hard so i haven"t wasted yout time.

I have a home game on friday night.., regular so kind of know-ish who plays what to a degree..enough to put some on some ranges (if that isn"t too much of a guestimation-ism)

I will let you know.

ps/ waz defo called...but did he win!.. :D
Title: Re: working out pot odds / equity example
Post by: RioRodent on January 15, 2009, 19:35:01 PM: Waz did really well to type all that into pokerstove and a calculator before being timed out... I"m impressed, Waz must be a typist.

;)
Title: Re: working out pot odds / equity example
Post by: TopPair2Pair on January 15, 2009, 19:45:01 PM: Quote from: Waz1892 on January 14, 2009, 21:33:22 PM

ps/ waz defo called...but did he win!.. :D

A certain % of the time he did!!
Title: Re: working out pot odds / equity example
Post by: noble1 on January 16, 2009, 02:03:32 AM: Quote from: RioRodent on January 15, 2009, 19:35:01 PM

Waz did really well to type all that into pokerstove and a calculator before being timed out... I"m impressed, Waz must be a typist.

;)

i agree but WAZ has run so many equity calculations he knows 1.5to1 is 40% 1.4to1 is 41.66% 1.3to1 is 43.47% 1.2to1 is 45.45% 1.1to1 is 47.61% and has virtually memorized how different hands compare to each range of cards equity wise so the dude just knows in an instant when his hands match up equity wise to a villains shove range,boy all that work reviewing hands and playing about with pokerstove really paid off...

just goes to show what a bit of study does , nice one WAZ ......
Title: Re: working out pot odds / equity example
Post by: RioRodent on January 16, 2009, 10:12:33 AM: (http://www.ogram.org/thecats/images/hiss.jpg)
Title: Re: working out pot odds / equity example
Post by: cincicrappykid on January 16, 2009, 12:27:17 PM: OMG I JUST LOOK IF THEIR SHAKING OR IF ONLINE CLICK AND CLOSE MY EYES :P
Title: Re: working out pot odds / equity example
Post by: noble1 on January 16, 2009, 13:23:43 PM: Quote from: cincicrappykid on January 16, 2009, 12:27:17 PM

OMG I JUST LOOK IF THEIR SHAKING OR IF ONLINE CLICK AND CLOSE MY EYES :P

lmao , yep closing your eyes and praying to the poker gods is good.... but have you tried the lucky under pants approach?? ;D
Title: Re: working out pot odds / equity example
Post by: Swinebag on January 16, 2009, 13:31:02 PM: Quote from: noble1 on January 16, 2009, 13:23:43 PM

Quote from: cincicrappykid on January 16, 2009, 12:27:17 PM

OMG I JUST LOOK IF THEIR SHAKING OR IF ONLINE CLICK AND CLOSE MY EYES :P

lmao , yep closing your eyes and praying to the poker gods is good.... but have you tried the lucky under pants approach?? ;D

It definitely works. Here is noble1 playing online poker

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll215/swinebag22/pants.jpg)
Title: Re: working out pot odds / equity example
Post by: noble1 on January 16, 2009, 13:37:34 PM: lol lol

u got it wrong Rob,,under pants over the top of my trousers and a bra on my head sir.

very luuuucky... ;D
Title: Re: working out pot odds / equity example
Post by: Waz1892 on January 16, 2009, 19:43:01 PM: Quote from: noble1 on January 16, 2009, 02:03:32 AM

Quote from: RioRodent on January 15, 2009, 19:35:01 PM

Waz did really well to type all that into pokerstove and a calculator before being timed out... I"m impressed, Waz must be a typist.

;)

i agree but WAZ has run so many equity calculations he knows 1.5to1 is 40% 1.4to1 is 41.66% 1.3to1 is 43.47% 1.2to1 is 45.45% 1.1to1 is 47.61% and has virtually memorized how different hands compare to each range of cards equity wise so the dude just knows in an instant when his hands match up equity wise to a villains shove range,boy all that work reviewing hands and playing about with pokerstove really paid off...

just goes to show what a bit of study does , nice one WAZ ......

off to home game now..with pokerstove in my head!!..see how we do eh..
Title: Re: working out pot odds / equity example
Post by: Waz1892 on January 17, 2009, 12:42:38 PM: Quote from: Waz1892 on January 16, 2009, 19:43:01 PM

Quote from: noble1 on January 16, 2009, 02:03:32 AM

Quote from: RioRodent on January 15, 2009, 19:35:01 PM

Waz did really well to type all that into pokerstove and a calculator before being timed out... I"m impressed, Waz must be a typist.

;)

i agree but WAZ has run so many equity calculations he knows 1.5to1 is 40% 1.4to1 is 41.66% 1.3to1 is 43.47% 1.2to1 is 45.45% 1.1to1 is 47.61% and has virtually memorized how different hands compare to each range of cards equity wise so the dude just knows in an instant when his hands match up equity wise to a villains shove range,boy all that work reviewing hands and playing about with pokerstove really paid off...

just goes to show what a bit of study does , nice one WAZ ......

off to home game now..with pokerstove in my head!!..see how we do eh..

waz won!!!! and proper thought about my game as a whole...concerntrated, and made 1 winning call using my new found skills..(having a better player than me, explaining to others at table it WAS the right call ...very happy!)

TYTYTYTY