Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Poker Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: antthecat on February 15, 2009, 16:46:36 PM
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hi, it seems that i usually whinge on here but this needs to be discussed. today i went to play in a £25 freezeout nlhe and i had a terrible bad beat(check out another norfolk poker player blog to read it there). recently i have been on the receving end of beat after beat, moral is very low and confidence is out of the window, i feel that it was the final straw and i am considering quitting poker alltogether, i love the game so much and im learning all the time and studying the game all the time aswell.
is there something i can do to reverse the bad run that im in the middle of or is quitting the best thing i can do???
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I have been there before, and I generally play my way through it, it can knock confidence for six for a while, but you will boost up again once the cashes start coming.
I personally would play through it.
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U need the old Chris Akabusi approach, P.M.A.
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U need the old Chris Akabusi approach, P.M.A.
This
It works
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what is his approach and what does PMA mean
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I guess positive mental attitude.
I really helps to play well within your bankroll - I mean about the 1% area not 2 (MTT) or 5(STT/cash) that most play to. It certainly makes the bad beats easier to take.
Hang on in there - it is a great game.
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I guess positive mental attitude.
nah it"s para-methoxyamphetamine
Drugs FTW ;D ;D ;D
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I guess positive mental attitude.
I really helps to play well within your bankroll - I mean about the 1% area not 2 (MTT) or 5(STT/cash) that most play to. It certainly makes the bad beats easier to take.
Hang on in there - it is a great game.
Good advice.
Taking a break, playing through it, changing the game you play, dropping down stakes, playing more live/online, etc., are all valid options.
Variance is a bugger.
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I guess positive mental attitude.
I really helps to play well within your bankroll - I mean about the 1% area not 2 (MTT) or 5(STT/cash) that most play to. It certainly makes the bad beats easier to take.
Hang on in there - it is a great game.
Good advice.
Sick with it, I ran colod for 3 months, but had the bankroll to cover it.
OR You can do a Kinboshi where you drink that much Guiness you dont care what is happening
Taking a break, playing through it, changing the game you play, dropping down stakes, playing more live/online, etc., are all valid options.
Variance is a bugger.
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I guess positive mental attitude.
I really helps to play well within your bankroll - I mean about the 1% area not 2 (MTT) or 5(STT/cash) that most play to. It certainly makes the bad beats easier to take.
Hang on in there - it is a great game.
Good advice.
Taking a break, playing through it, changing the game you play, dropping down stakes, playing more live/online, etc., are all valid options.
Variance is a bugger.
I would definitely advise taking a break. Ban yourself for, say, a week, go away, reread Harrington and you will come back all the more ready for action. As long as your girlfriend doesn"t read this, if you tell her you"re taking a few days off poker to spend more time with her, then you could also pick up a few brownie points as well!
However, I recommend you only go into exile after taking part in tonight"s league contest.
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All good advice and everyone suffers from this. i have at least two meltdown episodes a week of bad beats and beign of the wrong side of coolers like set over set and flush over flush etc.
funnily enough however, some may disagree with this, but i think if you are only playing every now and then, you should play more often, as variance will even itself out again. You cant stop the coolers and cold decks but with the bad beats, your hands will start holding up and as long as you "ALWAYS" make the correct decision you will start making profit...
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strangley enough, the chap who ko"d me at the palace is down the pub, we had a laugh about it and i will take a break and spend time with the misses and read harrington and supersystem. the misses will appreciate the break
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We"ve all been there - I had the "I"m giving up" episode last weekend.
All the above advice is great - play more hands, be more conservative on bankroll, play fewer hands, play different games (my favourite), read some strategy (also my favourite, find leaks, reinforce positive play)...
But the PMA is also a great one. Ultimately we will all suffer these periods, and those who play through it and come out the other side will be the survivors. Also, when it happens again, you"ll know you came through it before. It"s not our successes which truly define us, but how we handle our setbacks...
Ultimately you"ve answered your own question - you love the game. Now play it for the love of it and let the money follow!
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great motivation speech oneill....this is the reason why we are all playing the game i think. Because we love it. Im not good enough to make some serious money in poker and im never gonna be a pro, but i keep playing because i love the game......
Once i start not liking the game (its happenend a few times) i will knock it on the head. but for now, it keeps me in on a sunday night...(and monday,tues, wed etc...)
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i will be taking a break, i did have a bit of confidence in the league and did well considering. will be studyintg tenfold and having a break is what i need, i have good control of bankroll managment and not playing too high for my bankroll, ive froze the account(my old man looks after my bankroll) and im banned for a week(bar fridays home game as its a chance to see my mates). its been a tough couple of weeks for my poker, just got to get back on the horse after a week.
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Had the same thing this week too.
I"m gonna take a weeks break from it too methink.
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im currently on day 3 of my break and finding it ok until today cos i know that there is a few places holding £5 rebuys tonight and temptation is getting the better of me. i dont feel 100% up for playing but it has been a routine for me so trying to break the routine
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hi, I think we have all been through this at some time ,and lost some money into the bargain. I have been playing for 4 years and got fed up of bad beats also .I read in a magazine that ( the bad beat dose not hit you , you hit the bad beat ).
After reading this i started to learn how to become a intermediate player from a beginner, then move on to a advanced player . Thats when i started to learn more than just the two cards in front of me . Outs,hand odds, pot odds, percentages, the list goes on .I am still learning and will always be, but by learning this i hit very little bad beats . The ones i do hit dont seem as hard to take because with each one i think helps my learning.
If you know most of what there is to know please forgive me and take a month off .
dont go near the computer . lock the doors and beg .
kev.
kosh74
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cheers, i do know of pot odds, implied odds and board reading but players need form one way or the other and im not on form, a snooker player can pot any ball in practise but in the tourney if not on form will miss easy pots(i used to play snooker a hell of a lot) so i think that poker has form as such.
as i dont play online much the computer is not a problem but gettint texts asking are u playing tonight is a bit of a tempter but i will resist.
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i find as long as you have another vice taking a breather isnt usually an issue
when i go off the boil the xbox 360 gets an increased amount of usage
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sounds like a plan, i did not play tonight as a friends car broke down so had to fix that. has been tough doing other things bar playing poker.
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played tonight and got aces cracked when got all his chips in, a flop of qh 9d 4s saw him all in and i instacall, he shows k10 , turn a blank but the river was a jack filling his gutshot straight, am i right in thinking he only had a 5% chance on the river card to win the pot?
not good at all in my opinion. not the confidence boost that i needed.
i must be the unluckiest man in poker, or am i back to blasting my chips???
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not the only one running bad mate. these last 2 days iv lost a total of 12 max buyins at cash tables, and also played about 10 sngs and not 1 cash........my bank roll is now halved. confidence is at all time low ever since i have been playing poker.
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on that note wyoung i would advice a break of at least this weekend and maybe next week, instead of playing read a few poker books and just refresh your mind and maybe find a small nugget of info that may just help or inspire.
yeah i have been running bad as 2-5% chances have been hitting against me but last night was only a fun game and not being nasty to my opponents but a couple of them are fishy but if they win once in a while then they will be back next time donking off chips and giving me the cash.
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i must be the unluckiest man in poker, or am i back to blasting my chips???
I totally understand your situation, about 2 yrs ago i had a down turn that lasted nearly 8 months, i nearly gave up poker totally, but bankroll management was my saving grace, I came down the levels from $50 SNGs to $1/3 over that period, and still to this day am not too happy up in those dizzy hights again !! the bankroll is still growing again and i venture upto $10 sngs and mtts but am only still at the 25/50c cash tables.... it knocked my confidence tottally and it takes a while to get it back fully but am getting there.....
my only advice would be to play within the bankroll so you can get through it and move up again when our happy in yourself and your game......
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i must be the unluckiest man in poker, or am i back to blasting my chips???
my only advice would be to play within the bankroll so you can get through it and move up again when our happy in yourself and your game......
This bit of advice is one that we should all listen too - To many players play outside of their BR"s or play games that are too big for their BR"s
For me good BR Management is one of the most important things a player can have
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having one of these days
kings cracked when after a raise UTG then re raise in mid by me the BB thinks going all in with ace 7 is a wise move - then 2 7"s on the flop
got a couple of others but this aint a bad beat thread
jack it in and watch tv i reckon