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Poker Forum => Strategy => Topic started by: Chipaccrual on March 04, 2009, 15:31:08 PM
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Level 9 of a Pokerstars $10 rebuy (30k gtd)
400 ish players left. Average chipstack around 15k. Top 216 get paid
$10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2009/03/04 15:16:57 GMT [2009/03/04 10:16:57 ET]
Table "144057167 115" 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: vovo_leo (8975 in chips)
Seat 2: Topas500 (41092 in chips)
Seat 3: JammyJoe (8299 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: Chipaccrual (22500 in chips)
Seat 5: BonesBrown (11145 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: badman time (17570 in chips)
Seat 7: wannabepro89 (4633 in chips)
Seat 8: sleon79 (10511 in chips)
Seat 9: upsidedowney (9200 in chips)
vovo_leo: posts the ante 50
Topas500: posts the ante 50
JammyJoe: posts the ante 50
Chipaccrual: posts the ante 50
BonesBrown: posts the ante 50
badman time: posts the ante 50
wannabepro89: posts the ante 50
sleon79: posts the ante 50
upsidedowney: posts the ante 50
badman time: posts small blind 200
wannabepro89: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Chipaccrual [6s 6c]
sleon79: folds
upsidedowney: folds
vovo_leo: folds
Topas500: folds
JammyJoe: folds
Chipaccrual: raises 1600 to 2000
BonesBrown: folds
badman time: raises 5200 to 7200
wannabepro89: folds
Chipaccrual: calls 5200
*** FLOP *** [7s :3h: 9c]
badman time: bets 10320 and is all-in
Chipaccrual: ? ? ? ? ? ?
What is "badman time" holding ?
What would be your play post flop ?
And what"s your reasoning ?
Will reveal later. ;D
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im sticking badman on a medium pair - maybe 10"s or jacks and he probably pegs you for AK/AQ hence his all in to stop you betting
if he has a pair there is only 4 possible holdings you have beat 55>22 and 8 that beat you although i cant see him having AA/KK/QQ as (personaly) i"d be looking to check raise you with these hands
cant put him on 3 of a kind. if he has a set of 3/7/9 again his all in doesnt make sense as hes losing possible chips from you
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1. Bet less pre, I make it 1200.
2. as played fold to reraise pre or shove - are you set mining? what flop you like here?
3. as played after flop fold to all-in unless you are calling for this flop then call?
So confused with your line here think you have to call as played.
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not sure you should have called the raise to start with, as he was putting a third of his stack so he was obviously commiting himself.
that said his push all in after the flop just seems a pre meditated move (hence him commiting himself) you have to ask if he had hit hard would he push?
smacks of ak to me, i would make a hero call! :P
but then again im an idiot!
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Why the 5x raise???
then call off 1/3 stack to the reraise? Are you still prepared to fold now?
Unless badman has been 3 betting v regularly which i doubt then we are only going to be happy playing for stacks if we hit our set. Calling off a 3rd of my stack i certainly need a good reason to fold after doing so and the flop is about perfect as you can get without hitting a set for pocket sixes. So you have to ask what are you wanting to see?
Does he jam the flop with AK, yes but he also does it with every other hand that crushes you. He may have air but I would suggest thats a very small amount of the time.
quick ramblings but i would raise less and pass pre probably unless i felt he is doing this v light in which case i get them in but by raising less I should gain some F/E which you don"t have here.
Hope this makes sense shouldn"t try to reply at work..
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Agree with all that"s been said. It is a perfect flop for you and after investing a third of my stack, I make the call thinking / hoping he has AK/AQ and won"t hit.
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agree with 2.5 x or 3 x raise preflop
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It is fair to say my pre-flop play was quite bizarre and I am not going to even try and explain my reasoning, as I"m not sure I understand it myself. ;D
However, finding myself in the post flop position, a number of you were thinking as I was. Which in itself is quite scary for those individuals who mirror my thoughts. ;D
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With 1050 in the pot already, I don"t think your bet of 2000 is a particularly poor one as you"re representing strength and I assume, happy to steal the blinds? When you"re re-raised though, you now have to be thinking you"re gonna be racing at best; you choose to go along with it and by doing so, you really have to play it to the death.
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you"ve made your bed ... so its
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it"s as you played it sooooooo -- Go for it
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obvious he holds 7d :3d:
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As some of you have said, I went for the why push unless you haven"t hit the board, so I guessed I was ahead and probably racing.
And as said, I have made my bed, so I called.
Chipaccrual: calls 10320
*** TURN *** [7s :3h: 9c] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [7s :3h: 9c 5d] [ :2d:]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
badman time: shows [ac qs] (high card Ace)
Chipaccrual: shows [6s 6c] (a pair of Sixes)
Chipaccrual collected 35890 from pot
Well done anyone who went for AQ or AK for that matter (close enough)
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I wish people would wait at least a day before the reveal,thats 2 opportunities ive missed to look good.
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I wish people would wait at least a day before the reveal,thats 2 opportunities ive missed to look good.
Sorry Mal. Ran deep in the tourney and wanted to get it out the way.
I assume you had the correct read then ?
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not sure you should have called the raise to start with, as he was putting a third of his stack so he was obviously commiting himself.
that said his push all in after the flop just seems a pre meditated move (hence him commiting himself) you have to ask if he had hit hard would he push?
smacks of ak to me, i would make a hero call! :P
but then again im an idiot!
maybe not such an idiot...well done on the deep finish though...nice payday!
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Fold, he"s got aces.
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LOL, just LOL
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did you have any reads on badman? or seen any previous hands played that may indicate your play with 66 is good? or was it a bra on head fingers crossed moment?
when he re-raised nearly 1/2 his stack to your spewy 5x raise if you wanted to gamble
and get all his chips hoping he had 2 un-paired over cards then you should of 4bet his 3bet putting him all in pre-flop...i cannot see the benefit of just calling his re-raise unless you think he is extremely weak tight and will only bet the flop if he hits..
did you consider stack sizes pre at all or what the size of the pot would be on the flop after you call with him 1st to act?
i hope you noted your opponents who saw your play, i would not repeat it in the future if they happen to be on your left in any other encounters that you might have with them,you may find yourself facing difficult decisions..
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there is absolutely nothing wrong trapping with 66 here,just so long as you know what your doing obv.
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there is absolutely nothing wrong trapping with 66 here,just so long as you know what your doing obv.
if you think he is going to attempt pulling a go and go on you with any 2 then 4bet him all in pre if it is at the right stage of the mtt....