i would bet 75%-100% of the pot, and fold to any re-raise. If he calls then checks the turn, I would probably take the same line after the turn. May be spewy, but gonna take the pot a ton of the time.
thx guys,the games are tougher now and my std move/line would be to lead these spots as well..
The crafty TAGS if they have say a pair like QQ JJ TT etc even there Ace J/Q hands are less reluctant to fold these days [its getting harder to find enough scared opponents anymore ;D]
But in this spot i find it very common now that QQ JJ etc will snap call my turn bluff and i cannot continue on the river as they shove there remaining stack,some even now check raise all in the turn..
So my line now is to check behind on the turn, and when/if he value bets his 2 jacks etc etc on the river [mostly they throw out a blocker], i instantly shove, and I mean instantly..(unless the river is a 6, then i min raise instead ::)).
If they check the river i tend to bet 1/2 pot or just over and if they call that i still have enough back for a double up to be back where i started..
Anyone strongly disagree with this line?
Now he isn"t as sure! And may well fold to a decent sized river bet, not sure I would, actually it would depend on what mood I was in!!
thx guys,the games are tougher now and my std move/line would be to lead these spots as well..
The crafty TAGS if they have say a pair like QQ JJ TT etc even there Ace J/Q hands are less reluctant to fold these days [its getting harder to find enough scared opponents anymore ;D]
But in this spot i find it very common now that QQ JJ etc will snap call my turn bluff and i cannot continue on the river as they shove there remaining stack,some even now check raise all in the turn..
So my line now is to check behind on the turn, and when/if he value bets his 2 jacks etc etc on the river [mostly they throw out a blocker], i instantly shove, and I mean instantly..(unless the river is a 6, then i min raise instead ::)).
If they check the river i tend to bet 1/2 pot or just over and if they call that i still have enough back for a double up to be back where i started..
Anyone strongly disagree with this line?
Default is c/call river, the blocker is dead, too exploitable.
thx guys,the games are tougher now and my std move/line would be to lead these spots as well..
The crafty TAGS if they have say a pair like QQ JJ TT etc even there Ace J/Q hands are less reluctant to fold these days [its getting harder to find enough scared opponents anymore ;D]
But in this spot i find it very common now that QQ JJ etc will snap call my turn bluff and i cannot continue on the river as they shove there remaining stack,some even now check raise all in the turn..
So my line now is to check behind on the turn, and when/if he value bets his 2 jacks etc etc on the river [mostly they throw out a blocker], i instantly shove, and I mean instantly..(unless the river is a 6, then i min raise instead ::)).
If they check the river i tend to bet 1/2 pot or just over and if they call that i still have enough back for a double up to be back where i started..
Anyone strongly disagree with this line?
Default is c/call river, the blocker is dead, too exploitable.
the blocker bet is still thriving,if they check river in view to call , what if we go all in?
Default is c/call river, the blocker is dead, too exploitable.
Noble you are the ultimate internet warrior, you post crap that you already have a fixed mindset on then invite replies purely so you can shoot them down unless they agree with your own line.
In the hh you gave a river bet is never going to win that pot, in the new one the dynamics are totally different its not even close to the one i commented on.
And pls please revisit the the sage thread cause your pi score for k4 is completely wrong.
your posting hh`s from a $10k event how many of these players are weak bad non thinking nits?
In the example given your getting called on the river no matter how you try to approach it.
you post crap that you already have a fixed mindset on