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Title: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on May 23, 2009, 20:37:18 PM
The European Amateur Poker Festival will be held at the magnificent G Casino in Luton, England, between November 19th and 22nd, 2009. The festival will comprise two events.
The European Amateur Team Championship will be made up of 16 international teams of 4 players; and will be played on November 19th and 20th, with play starting at 2.30pm on both days. The format of the Championship will be as follows:-
Day One - Thursday, November 19th:
2.30pm - 8 x single table matches featuring every country and player.
6.30pm - 8 x single table matches featuring every country and player.
10.30pm - 8 x heads up matches featuring one player from every country.
12.30pm - 8 x heads up matches featuring one player from every country.
Day Two - Friday, November 20th:
2.30pm - 8 x heads up matches featuring one player from every country.
4.30pm - 8 x heads up matches featuring one player from every country.
6.30pm - 8 x single table matches featuring every country and player.
10.30pm - 8 x single table matches featuring every country and player.
A total of 192 points will be available on each day of play, with individual countries able to win a maximum of 72 points over both days.
The inaugural Champions were Ireland and 16 countries from the following list are expected to take part:-
Austria* Belgium England* France* Germany* Hungary* Italy* Netherlands Norway* Northern Ireland* Poland* Portugal* Republic of Ireland* Russia Scotland* Spain Sweden Wales*
*confirmed
The following video summarises the outcome of the 2008 European Amateur Team Championship.
The entry fee for the event will be £400 per country.
The top three finishing countries will receive a cash award plus Gold, Silver and Bronze medals. The winning team will be presented with the European Amateur Team Championship Cup.
Each player selected to captain or play for their country will be awarded a specially commissioned international team shirt featuring their national flag, event and sponsor details. Participants will also receive an option to enter the European Amateur Poker Championship which takes directly after the European Amateur Team Championship.
Team selection policy to be determined by the captain of each country.
2) The European Amateur Poker Championship
The European Amateur Poker Championship will feature 200 players and be played on November 21st and 22nd, with play starting at 2.30pm on both days.
Each player will start the event with 10,000 chips and the Championship will be played on a 45 minute clock.
The top twenty players will receive a cash award. The top three will receive Gold, Silver and Bronze medals. The winning player will receive the European Amateur Poker Championship Cup plus a paid entry to the GUKPT Grand Final, worth over £3,000.
The defending Champion is Andy Kingan, who won the title in Austria in 2008.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on May 23, 2009, 20:47:16 PM
APAT would like to confirm the following as team captains for the European Amateur Team Championship in 2009.
Austria - Christian Strangl (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4433) England - Daniel Phillips (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=22) France - Jean Michel Ballocchi (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1006) Germany - Stephan Kalhamer (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4153) Hungary - Viktoria Szilasi (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2787) Italy - Fabio Ruini (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=5412) Northern Ireland - Colin O"Prey (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=71) Poland - Marcin Rejmak (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=712) Portugal - Bruno Rilho (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=3303) Republic of Ireland - Len Collin (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4180) Scotland - Stuart Oliver (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=65) Wales - Dewi James (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=68)
Click the link to send a private message to each captain.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on May 23, 2009, 21:20:49 PM
Seats will go on sale for the European Amateur Poker Championship (individual event) on September 24th, via the home page of the APAT site.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on May 25, 2009, 12:25:09 PM
Right then, who could forget this little gem from Steve Harrison before last year"s European Team Championship!
AN INTRODUCTION TO THE "WINNING" TEAM CYMRU
http://adhika.welshprem.com/html/apat.swf
NB: Sorry Simon, Linda, Bob, Steve and Alan... you know it"s nothing personal... it"s just part of being Welsh!! But on a more serious note, good luck to all the teams taking part and we"re sure it"ll be a lot of fun!!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: rubertoe on May 25, 2009, 13:20:21 PM
quality tuneage - and i"m english!!!!!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on May 25, 2009, 20:08:25 PM
Congratulations to Bruno Rilho from Portimao who has just been named as Captain of the Portugal team. Bruno most recently took part in the APAT Welsh Amateur Championship in Cardiff.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Cyntaf on May 25, 2009, 23:01:53 PM
Congratulations Bruno, sure you will enjoy it as much as Cardiff :) Paul Mac
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Cyntaf on May 25, 2009, 23:04:59 PM
GL to Dan, Len and Stuart also, and all others whether i know them or not. ::)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: RILHO on May 25, 2009, 23:30:34 PM
Thank you....i did really enjoy playing the APAT in Wales,good tournament and everybody made me feel good there,really enjoyed it,thanks to all and im sure in Luton would be the same hope to see u all there,at least everybody i met in Wales....
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MAIR on May 25, 2009, 23:47:58 PM
Congratulations Bruno :)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: cincicrappykid on May 26, 2009, 13:43:01 PM
How are the teams chosen
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Laxie on May 26, 2009, 13:48:15 PM
Congratulations to all the Team Captains!!! Enjoy the email invasion over the next couple of months! :D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: linziwan on May 26, 2009, 15:53:01 PM
Congrats to all team captains... its a great experience :)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on May 27, 2009, 00:06:33 AM
good question Tony......how ARE the teams chosen.....and for that matter, how were the Captains chosen ??!!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on May 27, 2009, 08:35:07 AM
We advertised for Captains some weeks ago, the post should be below this one on the team board. APAT selected Captains from those showing an interest.
As stated above, the Captains will choose their teams, based on ability. Some may refer to this year"s rankings, or last, and some may select players based on specific events or strengths in Sit "N" G or Heads Up play. I guess we"ll find out as players are selected throughout the Autumn.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on May 27, 2009, 08:52:34 AM
We advertised for Captains some weeks ago, the post should be below this one on the team board. APAT selected Captains from those showing an interest.
As stated above, the Captains will choose their teams, based on ability. Some may refer to this year"s rankings, or last, and some may select players based on specific events or strengths in Sit "N" G or Heads Up play. I guess we"ll find out as players are selected throughout the Autumn.
I expect a more objective selection method might be preferable.
Louis
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: kinboshi on May 27, 2009, 11:03:04 AM
We advertised for Captains some weeks ago, the post should be below this one on the team board. APAT selected Captains from those showing an interest.
As stated above, the Captains will choose their teams, based on ability. Some may refer to this year"s rankings, or last, and some may select players based on specific events or strengths in Sit "N" G or Heads Up play. I guess we"ll find out as players are selected throughout the Autumn.
I expect a more objective selection method might be preferable.
Louis
Go on then, suggest an objective selection method. I"m sure all the captains would appreciate any suggestions.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on May 27, 2009, 11:10:42 AM
[ ] Has the player any final table experience ? ( Sit "n" Go skills )
[ ] Has the player won any tournaments ? ( Heads Up skills )
[ ] Does the player speak multiple European languages ? ( Listening in to tactics skills )
[ ] Has the player any drinking experience ? ( Keeping up with the Scots and Irish skills )
[ ] Does the player know any patriotic songs to sing ? ( Winners youtube clip skills )
[ ] Does the player have the ability to play 64os and win ? ( Captain Kinboshi skills )
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: HaworthBantam on May 27, 2009, 18:33:26 PM
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: kinboshi on May 27, 2009, 19:12:18 PM
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on May 27, 2009, 19:20:06 PM
Can"t speak for anyone else but I saw no MAJOR advertisement for Captains. The MAJOR advertisement on the homepage has only appeared now that the Captains have been chosen. Therefore, the Captains will choose the players they know, or "friends" to put it another way.....IMO. Why are the teams not chosen using rankings etc ?? Maybe that would be too obvious and then the "wrong" names would crop up ??
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: HaworthBantam on May 27, 2009, 19:25:49 PM
Can"t speak for anyone else but I saw no MAJOR advertisement for Captains. The MAJOR advertisement on the homepage has only appeared now that the Captains have been chosen. Therefore, the Captains will choose the players they know, or "friends" to put it another way.....IMO. Why are the teams not chosen using rankings etc ?? Maybe that would be too obvious and then the "wrong" names would crop up ??
All you had to do is read the forum and you would have seen the advert for the captains
and I think you"re underestimating people"s competitive spirit if you think any captain won"t choose the players who they think are most likely to win.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: rubertoe on May 27, 2009, 19:39:12 PM
This is gonna be a contentious Subject!!!
Just so Captains know, i am eligible to play for England, Scotland and Ireland. and 64os is always a favourite hand after a few beers!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on May 27, 2009, 19:40:43 PM
I see no reason to question their integrity, or judgement, when it comes to picking their team members.
Neither do I, and to imply otherwise is a little naughty. Last year it took ages to secure the teams as they deliberated long and hard in order to get the best team to represent their country. And in my honest opinion it worked very well.
n.b. Although domiciled in England I am available for the Irish drinking team ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: HaworthBantam on May 27, 2009, 20:04:01 PM
n.b. Although domiciled in England I am available for the Irish drinking team ;D ;D ;D
You"ll still lose to the mighty Scots, Ger ;D ;D ;D
A challenge -- I love a challenge -- bottles at sunrise Ian
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Swinebag on May 27, 2009, 20:58:07 PM
I"m quite frankly bemused at the fuss that seems to be made here.
I think some of the selections last year by the captains were IMO a bit dubious, but this was only on the basis that they had hardly played in any APAT events that year. To suggest that the captains weren"t picking the best team available and were picking "mates" is quite frankly, laughable.
The captains have to pick a team based on a number of factors and to do this purely by formula would be folly and would of course make the captains spot redundant. Could you imagine Capello dropping Gerrard for Carrick because Carrick had better Opta Stats?
As for the selection of the captains, then this year has been much fairer than last years as people last year were invited to be captains, whereas people this year have been invited to throw their hat in first. This has been on the forum for weeks now and if people haven"t looked at the forum, or spotted it then that is no ones fault other than their own.
England FTW!!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: duke3016 on May 27, 2009, 21:00:32 PM
I"m quite frankly bemused at the fuss that seems to be made here.
I think some of the selections last year by the captains were IMO a bit dubious, but this was only on the basis that they had hardly played in any APAT events that year. To suggest that the captains weren"t picking the best team available and were picking "mates" is quite frankly, laughable.
The captains have to pick a team based on a number of factors and to do this purely by formula would be folly and would of course make the captains spot redundant. Could you imagine Capello dropping Gerrard for Carrick because Carrick had better Opta Stats?
As for the selection of the captains, then this year has been much fairer than last years as people last year were invited to be captains, whereas people this year have been invited to throw their hat in first. This has been on the forum for weeks now and if people haven"t looked at the forum, or spotted it then that is no ones fault other than their own.
England FTW!!
Wot he said (apart from the last bit of course)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on May 27, 2009, 21:54:03 PM
I don"t think there is any fuss ... upfront selection basis better in my opinion.
I didn"t do any APAT last year ... (so nothing to go by)
The comment was made that teams might be bespoke based on Heads Up ability ... tough to measure that within the APAT tournaments.
Louis
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on May 27, 2009, 22:26:52 PM
Can"t speak for anyone else but I saw no MAJOR advertisement for Captains. The MAJOR advertisement on the homepage has only appeared now that the Captains have been chosen. Therefore, the Captains will choose the players they know, or "friends" to put it another way.....IMO. Why are the teams not chosen using rankings etc ?? Maybe that would be too obvious and then the "wrong" names would crop up ??
I would have thought this sort of comment was beneath you Brian. I"m actually very surprised by it. APAT isn"t in the "friends" or "wrong names" business and you should withdraw that remark unless you have some evidence to back it up with.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on May 27, 2009, 22:34:12 PM
We advertised for Captains some weeks ago, the post should be below this one on the team board. APAT selected Captains from those showing an interest.
As stated above, the Captains will choose their teams, based on ability. Some may refer to this year"s rankings, or last, and some may select players based on specific events or strengths in Sit "N" G or Heads Up play. I guess we"ll find out as players are selected throughout the Autumn.
I expect a more objective selection method might be preferable.
Louis
The UK & Irish Captains may choose to pick their top four players in the rankings. I"m sure each Captain will outline their plans seriously and objectively in the coming weeks. I can assure you each of the 16 Captains will be selecting players that they believe will support their team mates throughout and ultimately win the event.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on May 27, 2009, 22:38:06 PM
I don"t think there is any fuss ... upfront selection basis better in my opinion.
I didn"t do any APAT last year ... (so nothing to go by)
The comment was made that teams might be bespoke based on Heads Up ability ... tough to measure that within the APAT tournaments.
Louis
This is not a wholly APAT focussed event Louis. We are inviting teams from all over Europe. The German, French and Hungarian teams who took part last year were amongst the first to enter this year"s event; demonstrating how much they enjoyed their APAT experience, and in addition we will be announcing further European entries very shortly. This will increase the prestige in this event and in the European Amateur Championship (individual) also.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Swinebag on May 27, 2009, 23:20:55 PM
IIRC, all the UK and Ireland captains went to great pains to justify their inclusions and had clearly put a great deal of thought into it. I dont think too many people felt the selctions made weren"t warranted.
Of course there were ommisions that people felt were maybe unfair, but show me an England (for example) profesional cricket, rugby or football team where the country / media has not been divided on certain selections.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MAIR on May 27, 2009, 23:24:12 PM
........Therefore, the Captains will choose the players they know, or "friends" to put it another way.....IMO.....
This didn"t happen last year, so why assume that it will this year ?
Last year all captains deliberated for a long time on who they wanted on their teams, all done fairly, and all made excellent choices. Not an easy job, but the captains who have been selected to represent their country are top peeps and I look forward to seeing their picks.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on May 28, 2009, 00:11:07 AM
Congratulations to Ivar Garvik who will Captain the Norwegian Team in the European Amateur Team Championship. Ivar has travelled from Norway to APAT events in England, Scotland and Ireland over the last couple of years.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on May 28, 2009, 00:12:49 AM
Congratulations to Stephan Kalhamer who will again Captain the German Team at the European Amateur Team Championship. Germany secured the Bronze in a very exciting finish to last year"s event and Stephan was the most tactical of all Captains. Germany may start favourites in November.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: bigredders on May 28, 2009, 00:48:41 AM
the thing is with this that everybody says that the top of the rankings should have a place, yet the rankings are mostly online and this is a live tournament?! we had this conversation last year, there is no obvious way to do this! dan is a clever lad, he has won a live apat tournament and has played every one ( to my knowledge) ever since....surely he is more qualified than most and not because he is an apparent favourite.
i seriously think that having saying that some people are going to feel hard done by, at the end of the day england is by far the most populated of the countries and there are a lot of good players, but how do you quanify everyones ability?
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on May 28, 2009, 01:21:18 AM
I don"t think there is any fuss ... upfront selection basis better in my opinion.
I didn"t do any APAT last year ... (so nothing to go by)
The comment was made that teams might be bespoke based on Heads Up ability ... tough to measure that within the APAT tournaments.
Louis
This is not a wholly APAT focussed event Louis. We are inviting teams from all over Europe. The German, French and Hungarian teams who took part last year were amongst the first to enter this year"s event; demonstrating how much they enjoyed their APAT experience, and in addition we will be announcing further European entries very shortly. This will increase the prestige in this event and in the European Amateur Championship (individual) also.
Fair play - I was reading the stuff on APAT Vision and the two sort of go together.
I spoke(briefly) to Stuart in Walsall about representing Scotland (in the future) and how picks were made.
Upon reflection I would prefer an objective system (in the future) as it would give all the home based players something to "fight" for through the APAT season.
The Euro teams might have other criteria.
Aside - I am sure I am a long way from being a top 4 pick for Scotland at this stage.
I would weight "live" performances over online (where I do much better) - but going forward I would expect my "live" form to continue to improve.
Vision part - if the APAT becomes much bigger (I hope it does) then you might need more of a system.
My angle on Captaincy is that the bigger things are the harder it is to pick a team because you may not have full information.
Analogies regarding Pro Sport don"t quite match for me - because there is full(er) info on performance.
It is pretty tough to rate people"s heads up play - even looking at final tables - because often the blinds are so large.
I am sure all the Captains will make the best picks based on the info they have.
My own preference going forward would be to make things objective perhaps with a playing captain. State the criteria at the start of the season and run from there.
Louis
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on May 28, 2009, 01:49:01 AM
PRETTY OBVIOUS REALLY......winners of English, Scottish, Irish and Welsh live events qualify period......if they all are say English for instance, then so be it. I just feel that this "selection process" of Captains was not widely publicised. Also, if more than one person applied for the Captains job, who made the choice ?? And in a team of just 4 players, surely all of them should be recent winners of live APAT events ? Personally, as an online Champion I would love to be included myself. I just don"t see it happening and also having spoken to other Champions, they don"t think that they will either. My mate Swinebag talks about Capello earlier......a good analogy Rob......but he doesn"t play either.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: AMRN on May 28, 2009, 09:19:05 AM
... My angle on Captaincy is that the bigger things are the harder it is to pick a team because you may not have full information.
Analogies regarding Pro Sport don"t quite match for me - because there is full(er) info on performance.
It is pretty tough to rate people"s heads up play - even looking at final tables - because often the blinds are so large.
I am sure all the Captains will make the best picks based on the info they have.
My own preference going forward would be to make things objective perhaps with a playing captain. State the criteria at the start of the season and run from there.
Louis
You"ve essentially provided the arguments against your own system.
You won"t have the full information, you can"t judge people"s heads up play, and pro sports rankings are hard to judge even when they have more complete information.
Given how persuasively you"ve argued about how much information is missing, how can the teams be selected objectively?
From a basic statistical point of view there just isn"t a large enough sample size.
So basing any selection on any kind of apparantly objective criteria, isn"t actually objective, it just means people with good variance at the right time get picked.
This only really leaves judgement, intuitively it seems right that there should and could be a place for the national champions, world champion etc. but at the end of the day if there is no record to objectively measure the best people for the teams (and their isn"t) then leaving it as the Captain"s responsibility - and the Captain"s glory if they win - is the only realistic way to proceed.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Eck on May 28, 2009, 11:11:01 AM
PRETTY OBVIOUS REALLY......winners of English, Scottish, Irish and Welsh live events qualify period
You serious that you think this is fair? To win one live event you should get automatically picked ahead of others who may be far more consistent performers? Should the captain be hamstrung into choosing someone who may have run like god for a day or two??? (not suggesting that is the case with anyone btw).
I don"t get the opportunity to play live very often so should I be penalised because of that and those with more live experience and success be given preference? I don"t know the answers to these questions but I think the captains last time made considered choices and it is quite disrespectful to suggest that they won"t do that again.
Personally I would like to play this event (especially after getting an earbashing from Phil Starrs last week :) ). All I or anyone else can do is say they would be available and put forward what they think they bring to the table. Therefore if captain is interested I play low to mid stakes tournies on Crypto until recently and now on ipoker and here are my stats for consideration:
http://www.pokerprolabs.com/JimmyEck/ipoker.aspx
If not selected I will be 100% supportive of those that are chosen "mon the Scots!!!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on May 28, 2009, 15:42:49 PM
PRETTY OBVIOUS REALLY......winners of English, Scottish, Irish and Welsh live events qualify period
You serious that you think this is fair? To win one live event you should get automatically picked ahead of others who may be far more consistent performers? Should the captain be hamstrung into choosing someone who may have run like god for a day or two??? (not suggesting that is the case with anyone btw).
I don"t get the opportunity to play live very often so should I be penalised because of that and those with more live experience and success be given preference? I don"t know the answers to these questions but I think the captains last time made considered choices and it is quite disrespectful to suggest that they won"t do that again.
Personally I would like to play this event (especially after getting an earbashing from Phil Starrs last week :) ). All I or anyone else can do is say they would be available and put forward what they think they bring to the table. Therefore if captain is interested I play low to mid stakes tournies on Crypto until recently and now on ipoker and here are my stats for consideration:
http://www.pokerprolabs.com/JimmyEck/ipoker.aspx
If not selected I will be 100% supportive of those that are chosen "mon the Scots!!!
Great graphs ... well played ...
Aside - how do they deal with sats my graphs take a pounding when I lose in the $2.5m g"tee which I qualified for.
L
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on May 28, 2009, 15:53:59 PM
... My angle on Captaincy is that the bigger things are the harder it is to pick a team because you may not have full information.
Analogies regarding Pro Sport don"t quite match for me - because there is full(er) info on performance.
It is pretty tough to rate people"s heads up play - even looking at final tables - because often the blinds are so large.
I am sure all the Captains will make the best picks based on the info they have.
My own preference going forward would be to make things objective perhaps with a playing captain. State the criteria at the start of the season and run from there.
Louis
You"ve essentially provided the arguments against your own system.
You won"t have the full information, you can"t judge people"s heads up play, and pro sports rankings are hard to judge even when they have more complete information.
Given how persuasively you"ve argued about how much information is missing, how can the teams be selected objectively?
From a basic statistical point of view there just isn"t a large enough sample size.
So basing any selection on any kind of apparantly objective criteria, isn"t actually objective, it just means people with good variance at the right time get picked.
This only really leaves judgement, intuitively it seems right that there should and could be a place for the national champions, world champion etc. but at the end of the day if there is no record to objectively measure the best people for the teams (and their isn"t) then leaving it as the Captain"s responsibility - and the Captain"s glory if they win - is the only realistic way to proceed.
When you say that it "is the only realistic way to proceed" ... I don"t find myself agreeing ...
What is unrealistic about offering places to those top of the combined rankings at date x?
You could split the places between rankings and the Captain"s picks - two each - say?
I don"t think I defeat my own argument - it is not correct to say that without 100% info you cannot have objective measures.
"From a basic statistical point of view there just isn"t a large enough sample size."
Add all the APAT events together and you have a system with a similar amount of data to the Ryder Cup qualification system.
I am chilled about all of this - but in terms of adding spice to the APAT season I think some form of qualification for this event would be a good addition (in the future).
Louis
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on May 28, 2009, 16:04:10 PM
Great stats Eck !
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Jon MW on May 28, 2009, 16:13:11 PM
Add all the APAT events together and you have a system with a similar amount of data to the Ryder Cup qualification system.
I am chilled about all of this - but in terms of adding spice to the APAT season I think some form of qualification for this event would be a good addition (in the future).
Louis
If you add all the APAT events together you you don"t get a similar sample size to the Ryder Cup qualification - you get a similar sample size for all the people who are able to enter all the APAT events.
For those who only enter 2 or 3 a year you have a sample size of 2 or 3 to measure their ability.
I agree a form of qualification would be good, but the only "meaningful" ways of doing this (for example it would have to be live wouldn"t it?) would also be logistically unfeasible - at least in the current climate.
Also, although it is down to the captain"s judgments - the rankings are a very big influence on their opinion where it does provide an appropriate guide.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on May 28, 2009, 16:26:44 PM
When are the teams picked?
Is it after the World Championships?
The point was made that the team event is not just an APAT event - but it is driven through the APAT in the UK so I think you could create criteria for automatic entry ... for example topping the "live" rankings. Are none APAT members allowed to participate?
I expect I will play three "live" events this year - and no points from the first one.
From my point of view those who play more of the APAT events should have more claim to a spot - if they claim ranking points etc ...
Aside - I think you could have a cracking open team event - say 50 teams of 4 - for say 4*£75 entry.
Louis
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Jon MW on May 28, 2009, 16:46:16 PM
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on May 28, 2009, 17:05:58 PM
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Eck on May 28, 2009, 18:23:42 PM
Aside - how do they deal with sats my graphs take a pounding when I lose in the $2.5m g"tee which I qualified for.
L
Not sure Louis I had a bit of fun last night i a wee rebuy where someone starting giving other players grief because they played bad ??? He was telling them no wonder their stats were so bad as they were terrible so i checked his and he was $2k down. He did argue the point a bit saying it can"t pick up his satellite wins so there is probably something to suggest that it misses them.
Shut him up though so it was all good
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on May 28, 2009, 18:29:52 PM
I mostly play on Betfair so stats rather disappear into space ...
That said having a shocking year ... skimming just about level ...
Last two face to face tournaments called by ridiculous hands late on ... and lost ... GRRR!
KK vs KTs AJ vs QJ
On both occasions they raised and I put them all in ... big re-raises ... and no need to call ... it"s great that no-one appears to believe me ... but you need the cards to stand up!
Louis
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on May 28, 2009, 22:35:30 PM
I had a feeling my original post might provoke a few comments !! At the end of the day, I suppose we would ALL like to play, and only 4 people are going to I guess. My BCPC will just have to take the team event in December by storm instead !!
On that subject, when are you taking entries Des......I haven"t missed anything on that one have I ??
Speak to you at the weekend mate.
BOING BOING !!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: WASP on June 02, 2009, 14:51:16 PM
Can"t speak for anyone else but I saw no MAJOR advertisement for Captains. The MAJOR advertisement on the homepage has only appeared now that the Captains have been chosen. Therefore, the Captains will choose the players they know, or "friends" to put it another way.....IMO. Why are the teams not chosen using rankings etc ?? Maybe that would be too obvious and then the "wrong" names would crop up ??
I would have thought this sort of comment was beneath you Brian. I"m actually very surprised by it. APAT isn"t in the "friends" or "wrong names" business and you should withdraw that remark unless you have some evidence to back it up with.
Aye spot on Des what a ridiculas comment as it is obvious to everyone that Kinboshi has no friends ;D
(oops just bokked myself, oh well England FTW!!)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on June 02, 2009, 17:29:10 PM
Can"t speak for anyone else but I saw no MAJOR advertisement for Captains. The MAJOR advertisement on the homepage has only appeared now that the Captains have been chosen. Therefore, the Captains will choose the players they know, or "friends" to put it another way.....IMO. Why are the teams not chosen using rankings etc ?? Maybe that would be too obvious and then the "wrong" names would crop up ??
I would have thought this sort of comment was beneath you Brian. I"m actually very surprised by it. APAT isn"t in the "friends" or "wrong names" business and you should withdraw that remark unless you have some evidence to back it up with.
Aye spot on Des what a ridiculas comment as it is obvious to everyone that Kinboshi has no friends ;D
(oops just bokked myself, oh well England FTW!!)
Not a problem now that Mr Yates will be representing Ireland ;) ...although I"m still expecting the extraction requested above.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on June 03, 2009, 05:28:10 AM
Well after everyone has been extracting the urine all weekend....I retract the comment unreservedly..........can I have a seat now then ??!!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on June 03, 2009, 09:45:10 AM
LOL just LOL :D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Baldus New on June 04, 2009, 09:03:38 AM
As my mother has emigrated to Spain and taken up residencia there, including joining the Pensionista Club which entitles her to the same benefits as a Spanish National, am I eligible to throw my hat into the ring for the Spanish team?
Just a thought as it seemed to work in football circles?
Do we have any qualification criteria?
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Swinebag on June 04, 2009, 19:38:06 PM
IIRC, I dont think Des found these dubious nationality claims very funny last year.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: nooteboom17 on June 14, 2009, 18:10:52 PM
Very nice that Stephan Kalhamer is the German team captian again! Last time we went in third, this time we are going to win this thing!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: kinboshi on June 15, 2009, 12:57:59 PM
Count me in as well (http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t337/HaworthBantam/Scotland2.gif)
not to hasty Ian, I expect Dan to want long odds on England beating Scotland. ;)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: undisputed on June 17, 2009, 13:20:25 PM
Leaves no space for my team of liechtensteiners....... how unfair..... !!
Would love the chance to play in this ...even if it means changing my name by deed poll to sound like i come from any country that may accept my services..... ;) ;) ;)
APAT would like to confirm the following as team captains for the European Amateur Team Championship in 2009.
Austria - Christian Strangl (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4433) Belgium England - Daniel Phillips (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=22) France - Jean Michel Ballocchi (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1006) Germany - Stephan Kalhamer (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4153) Hungary - Viktoria Szilasi (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2787) Ireland - Len Collin (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4180) Italy Netherlands Norway - Ivar Garvik (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=165) Portugal - Bruno Rilho (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=3303) Russia Scotland - Stuart Oliver (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=65) Spain Sweden Wales
Further appointments will be announced in the near future.
Click the link to send a private message to each captain.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on June 17, 2009, 14:30:59 PM
Leaves no space for my team of liechtensteiners....... how unfair..... !!
Would love the chance to play in this ...even if it means changing my name by deed poll to sound like i come from any country that may accept my services..... ;) ;) ;)
APAT would like to confirm the following as team captains for the European Amateur Team Championship in 2009.
Austria - Christian Strangl (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4433) Belgium England - Daniel Phillips (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=22) France - Jean Michel Ballocchi (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1006) Germany - Stephan Kalhamer (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4153) Hungary - Viktoria Szilasi (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2787) Ireland - Len Collin (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=4180) Italy Netherlands Norway - Ivar Garvik (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=165) Portugal - Bruno Rilho (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=3303) Russia Scotland - Stuart Oliver (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=65) Spain Sweden Wales
Further appointments will be announced in the near future.
Click the link to send a private message to each captain.
Welsh captain being announced this evening. It"s no small task he has either based on last year"s showing. ;)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: HaworthBantam on June 17, 2009, 18:26:57 PM
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: HaworthBantam on June 17, 2009, 18:59:27 PM
You prefer the experience of mutton then Daniel ? :D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: SirPercival on June 17, 2009, 19:00:10 PM
Quote
Welsh captain being announced this evening. It"s no small task he has either based on last year"s showing. ;)
Even England managed more points! ;D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on June 17, 2009, 19:11:38 PM
I"m pleased to announce that Dewi James will be the Welsh team captain and Gianluca Ragusi will be the Italian team captain, for the forthcoming European Amateur Team Championship.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: SirPercival on June 17, 2009, 19:16:08 PM
I"m pleased to announce that Dewi James will be the Welsh team captain and Gianluca Ragusi will be the Italian team captain, for the forthcoming European Amateur Team Championship.
Many congratulations to both Dewi and Gianluca.
(Dewi, make sure you get plenty tips from Darren ;))
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on June 17, 2009, 19:21:50 PM
I"m pleased to announce that Dewi James will be the Welsh team captain and Gianluca Ragusi will be the Italian team captain, for the forthcoming European Amateur Team Championship.
Gianluca,
It was good to meet you in Dublin. From what you said, you will have a formidable team to bring over to Luton.
Good luck with it.
Leigh
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on June 17, 2009, 19:22:21 PM
Dewi,
Get it won.
That is all. ;D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Newportlad on June 17, 2009, 19:42:05 PM
Congratulations Dewi
Good choice for the job. We missed you last year!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: SirPercival on June 17, 2009, 19:50:00 PM
Last year was a couple of cheeks. If this year is half as much fun it will be a success!!! 8)
FYP
Leave my butt out of this, I"m still getting random people sending me screen dumps of that!!!! Much preferred the picture from the WOrld Strip Poker Champs. ;D
Last year was a couple of cheeks. If this year is half as much fun it will be a success!!! 8)
FYP
Leave my butt out of this, I"m still getting random people sending me screen dumps of that!!!! Much preferred the picture from the WOrld Strip Poker Champs. ;D
Haven"t seen a reaction like that since Bob Malin called the French and German all ins with Ace Nine suited at the last European Team event. As Duke would say, priceless...
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: GiMac on June 18, 2009, 23:52:10 PM
Actually Bob"s call was almost as priceless as his suckout. lol
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: bigalhx3 on June 19, 2009, 00:28:42 AM
Right then, who could forget this little gem from Steve Harrison before last year"s European Team Championship!
AN INTRODUCTION TO THE "WINNING" TEAM CYMRU
http://adhika.welshprem.com/html/apat.swf
NB: Sorry Simon, Linda, Bob, Steve and Alan... you know it"s nothing personal... it"s just part of being Welsh!! But on a more serious note, good luck to all the teams taking part and we"re sure it"ll be a lot of fun!!
IT WILL NEAVER HAPPEN ...
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Dewi_cool on June 19, 2009, 09:05:17 AM
drunk again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: SirPercival on June 19, 2009, 09:30:15 AM
Last year was a couple of cheeks. If this year is half as much fun it will be a success!!! 8)
FYP
Leave my butt out of this, I"m still getting random people sending me screen dumps of that!!!! Much preferred the picture from the WOrld Strip Poker Champs. ;D
A whole bunch of blokes and 1 lady! tactics in that game must have been interesting?!?
p.s. can"t believe you kept the sunglasses on!
Not enough women registered to play. Wonder why? So the sponsors employed 50 models to play!!! Fecked the game completely but made it a memorable day, lol. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Poland enter European Team Championship
Post by: plstrider on July 11, 2009, 13:31:04 PM
Not sure if it would be too much of a problem,but how about b,c,d teams etc?
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: beansisdaman on August 16, 2009, 20:37:51 PM
May I ask why, seeing as there are countries involved who may find it difficult to find a team/travel etc, that Northern Ireland are not given the chance to represent themselves in this tournament? I think the quality of players in both the republic and the north is of a high enough quality that the two countries of ireland should each be entitled to their own team. We in Northern Ireland have a strong APAT foundation as displayed by our current success in the online national league as Belfast, and a rather obvious team captain should we ever rightfully be acknowledged as a separate team from our Irish cousins.
I think it is a criticism of the APAT that in their team championship, where teams represent a country, that people from the North, who may have no affiliation with the south, must play under the tri-colour flag if they want to be involved, when in reality Northern Ireland and indeed the Northern Irish team should be recognised as the separate body and collection of members that they are.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 16, 2009, 21:23:38 PM
May I ask why, seeing as there are countries involved who may find it difficult to find a team/travel etc, that Northern Ireland are not given the chance to represent themselves in this tournament? I think the quality of players in both the republic and the north is of a high enough quality that the two countries of ireland should each be entitled to their own team. We in Northern Ireland have a strong APAT foundation as displayed by our current success in the online national league as Belfast, and a rather obvious team captain should we ever rightfully be acknowledged as a separate team from our Irish cousins.
I think it is a criticism of the APAT that in their team championship, where teams represent a country, that people from the North, who may have no affiliation with the south, must play under the tri-colour flag if they want to be involved, when in reality Northern Ireland and indeed the Northern Irish team should be recognised as the separate body and collection of members that they are.
Great Post.
Totally agree.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on August 16, 2009, 22:28:17 PM
Are you allowed to have opinions as a Mod? ;)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: duke3016 on August 16, 2009, 22:30:22 PM
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 16, 2009, 22:46:53 PM
Des allows us one opinion a year. Can"t believe I"ve used mine up agreeing that Northern Ireland should have their own team in the Europeans. Still, it is a worthwhile cause, and they would put up a very strong team.
Anyway, back to sitting on the fence. ;)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Marty719 on August 16, 2009, 23:09:55 PM
NI team is a great idea :)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: coprey on August 17, 2009, 09:58:29 AM
Today The Northern Division, tomorrow Europe. ;) ;D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on August 17, 2009, 11:09:50 AM
Leigh...I sent a message on Sunday to APAT and could do with a prompt reply please. Can you have a look for me ?? Thanx.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on August 17, 2009, 11:32:28 AM
APAT would be willing to allocate two slots to Irish teams if the current team and their captain agree.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MintTrav on August 17, 2009, 12:33:30 PM
Well, seeing as how its easier to understand what the Hungarian team are saying, it might be best for Northern Ireland to have their own team, so at least they could understand each other.
I look forward to seeing you proudly wearing your silver medals.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MintTrav on August 17, 2009, 12:50:01 PM
I think it is a criticism of the APAT that in their team championship, where teams represent a country, that people from the North, who may have no affiliation with the south, must play under the tri-colour flag
By the way beansisdaman, the tri-colour flag, as you call it, was designed to represent equal status for Orange and Green heritage, with white symbolizing peace between them.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on August 17, 2009, 12:56:55 PM
APAT would be willing to allocate two slots to Irish teams if the current team and their captain agree.
Independance for your Yorkshire !! ;)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: coprey on August 17, 2009, 13:03:52 PM
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Fatboydim on August 17, 2009, 13:05:52 PM
I have no objection - Without wishing to pass the buck I think it"s a management decision. My only issue is that the Irish team has a valued member in Colin and I would not wish to lose him.
I don"t suppose this would be an issue if we weren"t defending champions ;D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on August 17, 2009, 13:12:24 PM
I have no objection - Without wishing to pass the buck I think it"s a management decision. My only issue is that the Irish team has a valued member in Colin and I would not wish to lose him.
I don"t suppose this would be an issue if we weren"t defending champions ;D
This does create an added complexity. APAT wouldn"t want to break up the Championship winning team, without the agreement of each member of that team.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Marty719 on August 17, 2009, 13:23:31 PM
One thing to add is that there is definately more than enuff players to make up 2 teams. The Belfast teams alone has 20+ players reg"d for it who get together and play on a regular basis and also discuss the game with each other. There is already a team spirit...now just need a team!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: SirPercival on August 17, 2009, 19:31:33 PM
Well, seeing as how its easier to understand what the Hungarian team are saying, it might be best for Northern Ireland to have their own team, so at least they could understand each other.
I look forward to seeing you proudly wearing your silver medals.
Why - are you going for bronze this year? ;D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MintTrav on August 17, 2009, 20:04:12 PM
Well, seeing as how its easier to understand what the Hungarian team are saying, it might be best for Northern Ireland to have their own team, so at least they could understand each other.
I look forward to seeing you proudly wearing your silver medals.
Why - are you going for bronze this year? ;D
Yeah Stuart, I reckon England is nailed on for the gold this year - lol.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MintTrav on August 17, 2009, 20:06:50 PM
Well, seeing as how its easier to understand what the Hungarian team are saying, it might be best for Northern Ireland to have their own team, so at least they could understand each other.
I look forward to seeing you proudly wearing your silver medals.
Why - are you going for bronze this year? ;D
Yeah Stuart, I reckon England is nailed on for the gold this year - lol.
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Have you thought about a career in stand up comedy?
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: coprey on August 17, 2009, 22:48:19 PM
Well, seeing as how its easier to understand what the Hungarian team are saying, it might be best for Northern Ireland to have their own team, so at least they could understand each other.
I look forward to seeing you proudly wearing your silver medals.
Why - are you going for bronze this year? ;D
Yeah Stuart, I reckon England is nailed on for the gold this year - lol.
[/b]
Have you thought about a career in stand up comedy?
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: kinboshi on August 18, 2009, 09:16:06 AM
Well, seeing as how its easier to understand what the Hungarian team are saying, it might be best for Northern Ireland to have their own team, so at least they could understand each other.
I look forward to seeing you proudly wearing your silver medals.
Why - are you going for bronze this year? ;D
Yeah Stuart, I reckon England is nailed on for the gold this year - lol.
QFT
Never a truer word than one spoken in jest.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Marty719 on August 18, 2009, 09:22:45 AM
bn a fair bit of interest in this from the ppl ive spoken to about it!! a team cud easily b gathered!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: beansisdaman on August 19, 2009, 19:53:38 PM
I think it is a fantastic response shown here on this thread both by people who back the idea, and by the APAT themselves for making things possible regarding a Northern Ireland team entry. I also would especially like to acknowledge leigh"s response, as it lends a bit of weight to the cause from someone whose voice is respected within the APAT community, your support may be one of the factors which has lead the APAT to offer this slot to us over here in the north.
I understand the complexity however, of breaking up a championship winning side in the process of setting up this new team but I think that it is a natural evolution that Northern Ireland be deemed worthy of its own team, and obviously with championship pedigree embedded within some of our more famous players, I feel we would have a great platform from which we can prove we are worthy of a separate slot.
However, I propose that a Northern Irish team is not solely dependant on one player and, so as to allow him to defend his title, I feel it is only fair if Colin is considered to be an Irish team member, if that is his wish, to allow him the opportunity to defend his title with the team he won it with last year. I do stress, however, that Northern Ireland have all the key elements, coupled with a hefty amount of desire, to be able to represent itself in these team championships, and we would certainly offer a strong and ambitious outfit for the team championship if offered a place in the lineup.
I thank the captain of the Irish team for agreeing, in principle, to the creation of a second Irish outfit set up here in the north, and I thank the APAT for giving us a chance. As I said, with the growth in NI players, it is a natural thing to want to be able to represent ourselves, and I am sure we will rise to the challenge.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on August 19, 2009, 21:14:53 PM
I think it is a fantastic response shown here on this thread both by people who back the idea, and by the APAT themselves for making things possible regarding a Northern Ireland team entry. I also would especially like to acknowledge leigh"s response, as it lends a bit of weight to the cause from someone whose voice is respected within the APAT community, your support may be one of the factors which has lead the APAT to offer this slot to us over here in the north.
I understand the complexity however, of breaking up a championship winning side in the process of setting up this new team but I think that it is a natural evolution that Northern Ireland be deemed worthy of its own team, and obviously with championship pedigree embedded within some of our more famous players, I feel we would have a great platform from which we can prove we are worthy of a separate slot.
However, I propose that a Northern Irish team is not solely dependant on one player and, so as to allow him to defend his title, I feel it is only fair if Colin is considered to be an Irish team member, if that is his wish, to allow him the opportunity to defend his title with the team he won it with last year. I do stress, however, that Northern Ireland have all the key elements, coupled with a hefty amount of desire, to be able to represent itself in these team championships, and we would certainly offer a strong and ambitious outfit for the team championship if offered a place in the lineup.
I thank the captain of the Irish team for agreeing, in principle, to the creation of a second Irish outfit set up here in the north, and I thank the APAT for giving us a chance. As I said, with the growth in NI players, it is a natural thing to want to be able to represent ourselves, and I am sure we will rise to the challenge.
Slow down a bit Rich, APAT are continuing to review this proposed entry and as the edit of your original post confirms, a number of variables need to be considered before a final position is confirmed.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on August 19, 2009, 21:44:59 PM
You can"t question his enthusiasm though. ;D
And that bit he said about me being a respected voice, well I don"t know what to say. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: duke3016 on August 19, 2009, 21:54:08 PM
Slow down a bit Rich, APAT are continuing to review this proposed entry and as the edit of your original post confirms, a number of variables need to be considered before a final position is confirmed.
ok cool.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: SirPercival on August 20, 2009, 19:53:20 PM
And that bit he said about me being a respected voice
Damn near spilled my beer - would have spoiled a 32 year run
So what happened 32 years and 1 day ago?
As my parents were married 50 years and 1 day ago, Ger was either celebrating their 18th wedding anniversary or mourning Elvis Presley.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on September 01, 2009, 23:21:24 PM
I"m pleased to announce the addition of Northern Ireland to the European Amateur Team Championship line up.
Colin O"Prey, a member of the successful Ireland team in last year"s Championship will act as Player Captain and it would appear he has a very talented player base to call from, with several players from Northern Ireland going deep in APAT events over the last two years.
In addition, the Republic of Ireland will be added to the entry list under the Captaincy of Len Collin. Len will retain the nucleus of his Championship winning team last year, with the exception of Colin O"Prey.
We wish the teams from both countries the very best of luck in Luton this November.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: SirPercival on September 01, 2009, 23:24:11 PM
Congratulations Colin - looking forward to the event even more now with 2 Irish teams to compete with at the bar tables
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Laxie on September 01, 2009, 23:25:21 PM
That"s it. I"m booking flights now as there"s no way I"d miss watching you lot in a team event! Well done Colin!!!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: duke3016 on September 01, 2009, 23:32:42 PM
Good decision -- only pity is I am away on that date >:(
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Laxie on September 01, 2009, 23:34:05 PM
Good decision -- only pity is I am away on that date >:(
WHAT?! You can"t be away! Who"s gonna be my responsible minder?! lol
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: duke3016 on September 01, 2009, 23:39:56 PM
Bad planning
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: coprey on September 02, 2009, 00:35:08 AM
Wow! Thanks everyone. All that remains for me to do is gather a super strong team who can hopefully take the winning cup to the north of our beautiful island. ;)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MintTrav on September 02, 2009, 01:20:00 AM
Congrats Col!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on September 02, 2009, 10:02:43 AM
Wow! Thanks everyone. All that remains for me to do is gather a super strong team who can hopefully take the winning cup to the north of our beautiful island. ;)
And before Sir Perceval makes any suggestion, the bold highlighted above doesn"t mean Scotland. ;)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MintTrav on September 02, 2009, 13:20:42 PM
Wow! Thanks everyone. All that remains for me to do is gather a super strong team who can hopefully take the winning cup to the north of our beautiful island. ;)
Perhaps it would be simplest to hold a heads-up contest between the two leading countries on a table straddling the border, thus minimising the possibility of any damage to the cup from transporting it all the way to England and back.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: SirPercival on September 02, 2009, 17:57:06 PM
Wow! Thanks everyone. All that remains for me to do is gather a super strong team who can hopefully take the winning cup to the north of our beautiful island. ;)
And before Sir Perceval makes any suggestion, the bold highlighted above doesn"t mean Scotland. ;)
;D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on September 12, 2009, 09:58:46 AM
If you play in one of the European Teams in November, are you automatically offered a place (Buy in ) in the ME that starts on the Saturday ?
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on September 12, 2009, 11:31:07 AM
.....it is a criticism of the APAT that in their team championship, where teams represent a country............
I agree. It"s probably too late for this year, but next year there should be a team for each country - Republic of Ireland, France, Italy, Poland, United Kingdom, Germany, etc.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on September 21, 2009, 12:30:05 PM
.....it is a criticism of the APAT that in their team championship, where teams represent a country............
I agree. It"s probably too late for this year, but next year there should be a team for each country - Republic of Ireland, France, Italy, Poland, United Kingdom, Germany, etc.
So subtle John. A wooooosh for most I fear. ;D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: SirPercival on September 21, 2009, 12:31:28 PM
.....it is a criticism of the APAT that in their team championship, where teams represent a country............
I agree. It"s probably too late for this year, but next year there should be a team for each country - Republic of Ireland, France, Italy, Poland, United Kingdom, Germany, etc.
so much to say on this with so little time......... :o
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: coprey on September 21, 2009, 12:40:26 PM
.....it is a criticism of the APAT that in their team championship, where teams represent a country............
I agree. It"s probably too late for this year, but next year there should be a team for each country - Republic of Ireland, France, Italy, Poland, United Kingdom, Germany, etc.
The United Kingdom is a constitutional monarchy and unitary state consisting of four countries: England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Rich on September 24, 2009, 00:16:10 AM
I"m gonna try get a seat for the first time in a long long time, although wont be online till gone 10am, so doubtful i guess?
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on September 24, 2009, 00:17:40 AM
there is no UK team there are separate England Scotland Ireland Wales teams, all teams have now been chosen AFAIK but obviously you can still enter the individual event
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on September 24, 2009, 12:47:34 PM
there is no UK team there are separate England Scotland Northern Ireland Wales teams, all teams have now been chosen AFAIK but obviously you can still enter the individual event
FYP
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: samuel_9 on September 24, 2009, 20:49:26 PM
Congratulations to Stephan Kalhamer who will again Captain the German Team at the European Amateur Team Championship. Germany secured the Bronze in a very exciting finish to last year"s event and Stephan was the most tactical of all Captains. Germany may start favourites in November.
what do you mean germany may start favourites WE NORTHERN IRELAND must start favourites as we are very STRONG. number1 i go 2 the gym and lift weights very strong. number2 we have age on our side in young casgar no fear. number3 is an 83of suit specialist. number4 our captain who has the experiance from last years winning team and this years winning team. and we are all very handsome.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MAIR on September 24, 2009, 21:12:29 PM
Congratulations to Stephan Kalhamer who will again Captain the German Team at the European Amateur Team Championship. Germany secured the Bronze in a very exciting finish to last year"s event and Stephan was the most tactical of all Captains. Germany may start favourites in November.
what do you mean germany may start favourites WE NORTHERN IRELAND must start favourites as we are very STRONG. number1 i go 2 the gym and lift weights very strong. number2 we have age on our side in young casgar no fear. number3 is an 83of suit specialist. number4 our captain who has the experiance from last years winning team and this years winning team. and we are all very handsome.
Hehe Raymond, you tell em.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: AMRN on September 24, 2009, 23:18:48 PM
Des - I note that I haven"t appeared on the player list that just got posted... can you confirm that my reservation got through earlier today please?
Cheers
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on September 24, 2009, 23:24:09 PM
You might have missed that the list mentioned that international team members were not on the list yet. Strategic blag post methinks. ;) Nice job...
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: kinboshi on September 25, 2009, 13:26:36 PM
Des - I note that I haven"t appeared on the player list that just got posted... can you confirm that my reservation got through earlier today please?
Cheers
Hope you can play HU and STTs better than you can read... ::)
Fingers crossed............... :-\
think it"s my eyes I need to cross, not my fingers!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: samuel_9 on September 25, 2009, 16:15:49 PM
cant read .cant spell .got three fingers missing. cant cross my eyes as ive only got one .i am changing my name to the six million dollar man. NOW when im at the table be warned im bringing my false teeth 2 eat some chips please .feel free 2 donate at the table he he
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: RILHO on October 12, 2009, 19:07:52 PM
Hello
Can anybody tell me a Hotel near the casino in Luton,cause we flying from Portugal,and we dont know the area very well,and the Hotel that Des point out (Inn Hotel) is fully booked,can anybody know of any hotel in the zone???
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on October 12, 2009, 19:41:03 PM
Can anybody tell me a Hotel near the casino in Luton,cause we flying from Portugal,and we dont know the area very well,and the Hotel that Des point out (Inn Hotel) is fully booked,can anybody know of any hotel in the zone???
Are you sure it"s fully booked ?
I"ve just gone on the website and can book rooms for those dates.
I am Canadian, but my team mates are british. Do all team mates have to be from the same country?
It would be nice to represent Team Canada. I will tell all my British team mates not to speak but if they do they have end each sentence with Eh!!!
Sean Kachmarski
Not too late for next years :D
That will be announced SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON no doubt!!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: AMRN on November 05, 2009, 09:06:22 AM
there"s a distinct clue in the title of this thread. I know that Europe is trying it"s hardest to stretch it"s boundaries, and that as president of Europe, Tony Blair would probably like to push for world domination...... but at present Canada can"t really claim to be European. :D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MintTrav on November 05, 2009, 13:36:57 PM
there"s a distinct clue in the title of this thread. I know that Europe is trying it"s hardest to stretch it"s boundaries, and that as president of Europe, Tony Blair would probably like to push for world domination...... but at present Canada can"t really claim to be European. :D
People who live in glass houses shouldn"t be too picky. There is also a distinct clue in the title as to when the damn thing is on.
Hope you are saving Iron, we"re planning at least three overseas events in S4. ;)
ouch - have a feeling my poker passes may get limited next season then (the accountant has already suggested I sleep in the car for Luton in December!)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: AMRN on November 05, 2009, 14:01:22 PM
there"s a distinct clue in the title of this thread. I know that Europe is trying it"s hardest to stretch it"s boundaries, and that as president of Europe, Tony Blair would probably like to push for world domination...... but at present Canada can"t really claim to be European. :D
People who live in glass houses shouldn"t be too picky. There is also a distinct clue in the title as to when the damn thing is on.
Hope you are saving Iron, we"re planning at least three overseas events in S4. ;)
ouch - have a feeling my poker passes may get limited next season then (the accountant has already suggested I sleep in the car for Luton in December!)
Get out of your glass house then John!! I"m was referring to CoC which is in Luton in December!! ;D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on November 05, 2009, 14:07:23 PM
there"s a distinct clue in the title of this thread. I know that Europe is trying it"s hardest to stretch it"s boundaries, and that as president of Europe, Tony Blair would probably like to push for world domination...... but at present Canada can"t really claim to be European. :D
People who live in glass houses shouldn"t be too picky. There is also a distinct clue in the title as to when the damn thing is on.
Hope you are saving Iron, we"re planning at least three overseas events in S4. ;)
ouch - have a feeling my poker passes may get limited next season then (the accountant has already suggested I sleep in the car for Luton in December!)
Get out of your glass house then John!! I"m was referring to CoC which is in Luton in December!! ;D
I so hope the captains have a sense of humour and put these two into heads up battle should the draw deliver an Rep of Ireland vs England tie.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: The_Kanna on November 05, 2009, 14:46:50 PM
Sorry Apat members...i have a question. When publicate in the site(or in the forum) the draw of the European Amateur Poker
thanks for the reply
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on November 05, 2009, 15:15:31 PM
Luca, The draw for each match of the Team Championship will be made on Sunday and published on Sunday evening.
there"s a distinct clue in the title of this thread. I know that Europe is trying it"s hardest to stretch it"s boundaries, and that as president of Europe, Tony Blair would probably like to push for world domination...... but at present Canada can"t really claim to be European. :D
People who live in glass houses shouldn"t be too picky. There is also a distinct clue in the title as to when the damn thing is on.
Hope you are saving Iron, we"re planning at least three overseas events in S4. ;)
ouch - have a feeling my poker passes may get limited next season then (the accountant has already suggested I sleep in the car for Luton in December!)
Get out of your glass house then John!! I"m was referring to CoC which is in Luton in December!! ;D
I so hope the captains have a sense of humour and put these two into heads up battle should the draw deliver an Rep of Ireland vs England tie.
Might be possible...
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 05, 2009, 17:14:50 PM
With only a few weeks to go until the APAT European Championships in Luton, here"s an interview with two of the captains.
I caught up with Stuart Oliver (Scotland) and Daniel Phillips (England) during the APAT Scottish Championships to get their thoughts on the event. Since the interview they have picked their final teams.
The discussion kicks off with the Europeans, then they argue about discuss the online league, with a bit of general individual banter along the way.
lololololol....home with flu at the moment but that has brightened up my day considerably.
Also at home with the flu. Made me chuckle. Good interview all round.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: AMRN on November 05, 2009, 18:38:21 PM
quality!! nuff said
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: The_Kanna on November 09, 2009, 17:07:20 PM
but the draw don t exit yesterday? because in post i see,the draw will pubilcate sunday evening :),i m very curious to see the draw
Forza Italia!!!
another question,who are the structure of the team championship(blind level etc) and the all player play every day 2 stt e 2 HU or one player play only one time for the day( example player 1 play 1 mtt player 2 play 1 mtt player 3 play 1 HU player 4 play 1 HU) or every play playing all mtt e hu(i hope the 1 option for play much ;) )
thanks e sorry for my bad english,see in luton for all
Luca The Kanna Cannella
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MintTrav on November 09, 2009, 17:45:57 PM
Actually, Luca, I understood exactly what you meant, which is more than I can say for some of the locals. Have a read through some of the other threads on here and you won"t feel any need to apologise for your level of English.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 09, 2009, 17:49:58 PM
Have a read through some of the other threads on here, Luca, and you won"t feel any need to apologise for your level of English.
LOL, and to answer your question Luca, I believe Des did say he would announce the structure on Sunday, but will have got a bit tied up with the announcement for another APAT event.
I hate to say it, but I"m sure it will be announced soon. Everyone will be wanting to see the draw for the Heads Up, especially to see who gets the easy draw in playing England. ;)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: The_Kanna on November 09, 2009, 18:15:07 PM
ty for all guy
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: SirPercival on November 09, 2009, 19:25:09 PM
Have a read through some of the other threads on here, Luca, and you won"t feel any need to apologise for your level of English.
LOL, and to answer your question Luca, I believe Des did say he would announce the structure on Sunday, but will have got a bit tied up with the announcement for another APAT event.
I hate to say it, but I"m sure it will be announced soon. Everyone will be wanting to see the draw for the Heads Up, especially to see who gets a free point in playing England. ;)
fyp
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: JamieCarra on November 10, 2009, 12:42:34 PM
Has the starting stack / blind structure been confirmed for the STTs and HU in the team event?
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on November 10, 2009, 12:45:38 PM
We"ll put these up tonight guys, sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: kinboshi on November 11, 2009, 12:38:53 PM
We"ll put these up tonight guys, sorry for the delay.
Sure will.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on November 11, 2009, 13:57:12 PM
sigh. I need a PA. Things haven"t been the same since Tighty got into showbusiness. My wife"s out this evening - her birthday or something, so hopefully I can get my priorities right and get this sorted.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on November 11, 2009, 23:34:45 PM
Struggling for time I"m afraid. The structure and draw will be posted over the weekend.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: kinboshi on November 11, 2009, 23:43:45 PM
Struggling for time I"m afraid. The structure and draw will be posted over the weekend.
Which weekend, we don"t know ;)
Definitely this weekend!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Laxie on November 11, 2009, 23:56:30 PM
No harm keeping "em on their toes Des. Take yer time. Kin"s only pretending to care anyway. He told me so earlier today. Just busting yer chops, so he is.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Cyntaf on November 11, 2009, 23:58:30 PM
Leigh, Dan and Stuart. Absolutely stonking stuff, i can feel a sitcom coming on. Save some for Luton guys, c u soon.
Very well done all three of you. :D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: kinboshi on November 12, 2009, 00:03:47 AM
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: TightEnd on November 12, 2009, 00:08:06 AM
Never had a soul to start with.
The draw and structure might be ready for Wednesday.
Des and I are working on parallel versions, with a best of 19 coin flip competition to decide which one we go with,
Either Des" super slow deepstack thingy for English nits
or my mega turbo shove it in to suit the Scots and Irish madmen who need to get to the bar version
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: duke3016 on November 12, 2009, 00:24:32 AM
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Dewi_cool on November 13, 2009, 15:53:49 PM
can we have the deepstack version, I would like to play the Thurs & Fri night tournies, tx
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on November 13, 2009, 15:58:34 PM
We"re happy to announce the addition of an APAT Omaha Championship at the European Amateur Championship in Luton next week. This tournament will kick off at 3.30pm on Sunday and offer a 5,000 chip Pot Limit Omaha event for a £20 + £5 buy in (we"re accepting of the fee as this was not a scheduled event). The field size will be capped at 60 runners.
A separate thread will be set up and seats will be allocated to the first 60 players to respond, with payment taking place in Luton.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: rudders on November 13, 2009, 17:19:34 PM
could i respond here please- and put my name down for the omaha. In case I miss the thread.....
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Laxie on November 13, 2009, 17:36:10 PM
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii TYVM!!! Nice to know there"s something to do if we"re not still in the ME. :)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: duke3016 on November 13, 2009, 18:05:16 PM
I couldn"t completely miss this -- sooooo I will see you for the Omaha event straight from Vegas -- have booked the Days Inn -- bring it on
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Laxie on November 13, 2009, 18:09:00 PM
Yer still a nutter, but...wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii :D
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: rejmak on November 15, 2009, 09:49:14 AM
I just check a structure on a team event and its look really good for me. Any info. about a prize? Top 3 paid?
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MintTrav on November 15, 2009, 10:02:10 AM
According to the Heads-Up list, we play eight matches - once against Poland & Northern Ireland, twice against Austria, Hungary & Wales and none against Scotland, England, France, Germany, Italy or Portugal. Seems a little odd.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: rejmak on November 15, 2009, 10:11:30 AM
According to the Heads-Up list, we play eight matches - once against Poland & Northern Ireland, twice against Austria, Hungary & Wales and none against Scotland, England, France, Germany, Italy or Portugal. Seems a little odd.
I find that we are playing 3 times with Italy not sure should be like that.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Eck on November 15, 2009, 11:03:34 AM
We seem to be playing Portugal 3 times?
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: AMRN on November 15, 2009, 11:03:56 AM
England have Scotland twice - 4 easy points in the bag for England then!!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: MintTrav on November 15, 2009, 11:45:22 AM
What about Sweden? They are down to play Yugoslavia four times.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: SirPercival on November 15, 2009, 12:34:53 PM
Every match involved a random draw guys, as last year, so it won"t change. The captains may choose different players for each clash of course.
Leigh has produced a random draw spreadsheet model that will reduce the instances of countries playing together several times, so we are currently testing with a view to redrawing the heads up matches. If we are happy the model does what it says on the tin, we will make one completely random draw and reissue the heads up fixtures.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on November 15, 2009, 15:41:22 PM
We don"t mind WHO we play, we will beat em all !! And we will be the best dressed too !!
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1529/010zn.jpg)
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6238/012wn.jpg)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Eck on November 15, 2009, 15:44:53 PM
Oh dear
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 15, 2009, 15:51:53 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan,
I think you need to speak to your team about dresscode. ;)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on November 15, 2009, 15:52:54 PM
Every match involved a random draw guys, as last year, so it won"t change. The captains may choose different players for each clash of course.
Leigh has produced a random draw spreadsheet model that will reduce the instances of countries playing together several times, so we are currently testing with a view to redrawing the heads up matches. If we are happy the model does what it says on the tin, we will make one completely random draw and reissue the heads up fixtures.
Redraw has been done to ensure no team plays heads up more than once against each other. Sorry to Scotland, he clearly had the advantage with the original draw. ;)
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on November 15, 2009, 15:56:45 PM
In a change to normal post APAT event procedures, I"m happy to announce that we will be selling "collector" pictures of the England team from our online store.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on November 15, 2009, 15:57:30 PM
Every match involved a random draw guys, as last year, so it won"t change. The captains may choose different players for each clash of course.
Leigh has produced a random draw spreadsheet model that will reduce the instances of countries playing together several times, so we are currently testing with a view to redrawing the heads up matches. If we are happy the model does what it says on the tin, we will make one completely random draw and reissue the heads up fixtures.
Redraw has been done to ensure no team plays heads up more than once against each other. Sorry to Scotland, he clearly had the advantage with the original draw. ;)
Excellent work Leigh, thanks, or as they say internationally - banzai!
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on November 15, 2009, 15:58:35 PM
Redraw has been done to ensure no team plays heads up more than once against each other. Sorry to Scotland, he clearly had the advantage with the original draw. ;)
I"m gonna have to renegotiate my prop bet with Swiney ... this feels like we"ve lost points already.
[ ] Thanks Leigh
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: APAT on November 16, 2009, 18:10:50 PM
Just a reminder for everyone - you are not allowed to wear trainers at the G Casino Luton, they need to be proper shoes. Otherwise, they will send you to the local shops to buy some.
Title: Re: European Amateur Poker Festival - November 2009
Post by: Claw75 on November 16, 2009, 18:14:54 PM