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Title: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: APAT on September 21, 2007, 00:15:58 AM
With 80 live tournaments and 50 online, APAT is delighted to announce the full Season Two schedule for its critically aclaimed; and now world"s largest, poker tour. 

The first round of Regional Championship events will be held throughout the United Kingdom and Ireland on Saturday October 6th, with a 2.30pm kick off.  The first National Championship event will be the English Amateur Poker Championship, which will be held at the Grosvenor Casino in Walsall on the weekend of November 3rd and 4th.

For complete details, please use the links from the APAT home page:

www.apat.com.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: H-Man81 on September 21, 2007, 00:52:17 AM
Fantastic job. No one can have any complaints about not having enough notice now  :) Though typically enough I"m away when first Scottish regionals are! Oh well, just have to be ready and poised for the click-fest!
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: UKChamp on September 21, 2007, 07:44:10 AM
Good work guys on setting a "firm" schedule of dates, this was clearly the main issue with the first series.  I am really excited about this year.

Hopefully the turnout will do APAT justice!

Keep up the good work
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: CokeWLime on September 21, 2007, 09:13:19 AM
Hiya folks, the new schedule looks great.  I"m a new member and was wondering what is the process for signing up for one of the apat events.  I see the first one is on sale from the 9th October, where/how do you buy in to this event.

Thank You.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: HannibleL316 on September 21, 2007, 10:03:46 AM
I"m new aswel, and was also wondering this.

I was just looking at the Northern Championship regional legs and the Manchester one is 6th October and it says on sale direct from Casino on day of play.
But at the bottom it says
"2) Regional Championship events will hold a maximum of 80 players and start at 2.30pm."

So is this on a first come first serve basis then?
What if there is more than 80?

And it says if you come in the top 10% in a regional championship you get a seat allocation at a National event.
Does that mean a free £75 entry? and does that mean the top 10% in 1 regional leg event or do you have to be in the top 10% after all the legs?

Sorry about all the questions :-)
Thanks
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: kinboshi on September 21, 2007, 10:37:56 AM
Top 10% in any regional event get a £75 seat for a national event.

Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: RioRodent on September 21, 2007, 10:46:08 AM

Top 10% in any regional event get a £75 seat for a national event.




Are these seats "added" to the £20 x X prize pool or deducted from it?
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Buck Pete on September 21, 2007, 11:31:49 AM
Are APAT ranking points awarded for Regional,National and Online tourneys?

I know the Top 9 in the Regionals get ranking points. How does the points structure work for Online and Nationals?

Thanks.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: AshDub9 on September 21, 2007, 11:37:47 AM
1) Members will earn between 1 and 9 ranking points for finishing in the top nine players at each of 50 Online Series events at BlueSquarePoker.com.

2) Players will earn between 1 and 9 ranking points for finishing in the top nine players at each of 67 Regional Championship events.

3) Players will earn between 1 and 18 ranking points for finishing in the top 18 players at each of 7 National Championship events. The remaining National events will be non ranking due to their invitational or one day structure.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: coprey on September 21, 2007, 11:47:43 AM
Hi

Season 2 looks awesum. Can anyone tell me what time the National events kick off at. I need to arrange transport.

Thx

Colin
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: HannibleL316 on September 21, 2007, 11:55:20 AM
What do the points go towards?
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: kinboshi on September 21, 2007, 12:07:47 PM

What do the points go towards?


GUKPT Grand Final.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: kinboshi on September 21, 2007, 12:08:22 PM

Hi

Season 2 looks awesum. Can anyone tell me what time the National events kick off at. I need to arrange transport.

Thx

Colin


They all started at 2:30pm in season 1.  It"ll be similar for season two (as a guess).
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: kinboshi on September 21, 2007, 12:10:39 PM


Top 10% in any regional event get a £75 seat for a national event.




Are these seats "added" to the £20 x X prize pool or deducted from it?


Good question.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: inthepink on September 21, 2007, 12:20:59 PM
How do you go about getting a seat for regional dates, if only 80 places surely is going to be vastly oversubsribed. I will have an hours drive to nearest venue and dont want to travel knowing if iam going to get a place. If you have to que at the venue, surely only locals will get a seat ???
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: HannibleL316 on September 21, 2007, 12:25:28 PM


What do the points go towards?


GUKPT Grand Final.


Is that the Groesvenor final where its a big buy in?
Is that the only way to qualify for it?
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Swinebag on September 21, 2007, 13:06:00 PM
I notice that the online satellites for the APAT scottish championship are on the 5th and 6th April(a saturday and sunday). The saturday online qualifier will clash with the live regional qualifiers.

Given that all the other online qualifiers are Sunday and Monday, can we assume that this is an error and that the online qualifiers are on the the 6th and 7th?

I know I"m a saddo for spotting it, but I was filling in my calender (also quite sad)and noticed the clash.

On another note:

Hope the regionals dont become a "queue" fest or even a "camp" fest.

I"ll be bold here and assume that the demand for these regionals has been considered and the scenario of 150 turning up for an 80 seater will not happen. The regs may not be too bothered by an early saturday £20 freezeout and will be still asleep after the friday night cash games. Lets suck it and see.

Fantastic work btw APAT. The work and effort here is greatly appreciated. Can"t wait
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Swinebag on September 21, 2007, 13:07:58 PM



What do the points go towards?


GUKPT Grand Final.


Is that the Groesvenor final where its a big buy in?
Is that the only way to qualify for it?


you can sat in via blue square poker.

Or be a pro and buy in directly
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: jacklevel06 on September 21, 2007, 15:48:35 PM
Only 2 week"s notice for the first regional tournament it"s a bloody disgrace.!













Because im in spain on holiday and cant make it. :D(a case of sour grapes me thinks)




Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Ericstoner on September 21, 2007, 15:56:35 PM
quote.."Only 2 week"s notice for the first regional tournament it"s a bloody disgrace.!"

Only cos i"m off to Paris on the weekend of the 6th/7th, for the Arc.

That said, I can"t wait for the whole thing to get underway,well done all involved, and an extra special thanks to Blue square for it"s sponsership.

By the way I"ve been playing on Blue sq since their card room started, under the tag of Twignbud.

Be afraid be very afraid..................
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: RioRodent on September 21, 2007, 17:02:18 PM

By the way I"ve been playing on Blue sq since their card room started, under the tag of Twignbud.

Be afraid be very afraid..................


Then our paths have crossed many times before without knowing it!!

8)
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: monkeyman on September 21, 2007, 17:31:58 PM
I read the announcement this morning and had to pinch myself to make sure I wasn"t dreaming. £20 freezeouts at the Grosvenor in Yarmouth and a live Razz tourney. There is a god after all!
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Waz1892 on September 21, 2007, 17:55:37 PM
Superb news Can"t wait,   How does the regional entry work?..2.30pm start...reg on day..but at what time does registration commence?.......seems as this will be so popular with members..80 won"t be enough..so mass queues etc..who will control this..etc etc..etc
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Ironside on September 21, 2007, 20:12:29 PM
i"ve finally given up on the regionals

first i would have to pay for 2 nights hotels in edinburgh thats about £180
plus petrol £50
then i wouldnt be guarneteed a seat as its payment on the day

gla

Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: SirPercival on September 21, 2007, 23:39:33 PM

With 80 live tournaments and 50 online, APAT is delighted to announce the full Season Two schedule for its critically aclaimed; and now world"s largest, poker tour. 

The first round of Regional Championship events will be held throughout the United Kingdom and Ireland on Saturday October 6th, with a 2.30pm kick off.  The first National Championship event will be the English Amateur Poker Championship, which will be held at the Grosvenor Casino in Walsall on the weekend of November 3rd and 4th.

For complete details, please use the links from the APAT home page:

www.apat.com.


Well done to all at APAT.
Season 2 will be amazing.

;D
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: RioRodent on September 22, 2007, 17:53:36 PM
Gala Bristol is missing from the options for the Western Region event on 10th Nov.

Is this right or perhaps a clerical error?  :o
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: APAT on September 23, 2007, 13:54:39 PM

I notice that the online satellites for the APAT scottish championship are on the 5th and 6th April(a saturday and sunday). The saturday online qualifier will clash with the live regional qualifiers.

Given that all the other online qualifiers are Sunday and Monday, can we assume that this is an error and that the online qualifiers are on the the 6th and 7th


Yes, the online Scottish satellites are indeed on the 6th and 7th.  Good spot, I"ve updated the schedule on the site.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: APAT on September 23, 2007, 13:58:18 PM

Gala Bristol is missing from the options for the Western Region event on 10th Nov.

Is this right or perhaps a clerical error?  :o



Not on this occasion.  Three events have had to be left out of the Regional Championship schedule due to circumstances outside of APAT's control.

They are the first two dates at Dusk Till Dawn (subject to license), as it gears up for launch and the second date at Gala Bristol, which is hosting the GBPT Grand Final that weekend.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: RioRodent on September 23, 2007, 14:57:46 PM



Top 10% in any regional event get a £75 seat for a national event.




Are these seats "added" to the £20 x X prize pool or deducted from it?


Good question.


Bump this question... Des seems to have missed it.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: APAT on September 23, 2007, 15:44:37 PM
The Regional events are acting as satellites into the National events.  the 10% times £75 will come from the prize pool.  The remainder of the prize pool will be awarded to the top 10% of finishers as prize money.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: MAF on September 24, 2007, 15:11:03 PM
First of congrats to APAT for coming up with a great schedule.  It certainly looks like a lot of hard work has been done by APAT to achieve this.

I just want to bump a question that was asked earlier.  I want to play the Regionals at the Vic.  What time will registration start on the day as I can imagine this getting filled up quite quickly?

Thanks
Mark.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: duncthehat on September 24, 2007, 15:52:55 PM
In a weird position where although none of the venues are on my doorstep.  i am like an hour and a halfs drive from Walsall Bristol and Luton and at a push Cardiff!!.

If you play initially in one region are you then still able to play later in a different region.

My reasoning behind is the numbers game.  If i find one venue is oversubscribed but another in undersubscribed, I might change to a different region for leg 2.

also if you can change regions what happens with the ranking points
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: kinboshi on September 24, 2007, 16:25:25 PM
Again, I don"t know for sure, but my take is as follows.

You can play in any of the regional events - but obviously only at one on any given day.  I don"t remember reading anything that says you can"t play in any of the regions in subsequent events.  Might be wrong though.

As a satellite, you get in the top 10%, you get a seat in a national event.  You also get points - and these go towards your season total (your best 20 results count, or something like that, so you can miss events and not worry too much).  So even if a venue only attracts 30 runners, it"s going to be just as difficult to get a seat, as you need to finish in the top 10%, but it would be easier to score points (unless they too are allocated pro rata of a full field of 80 runners).

Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: HaworthBantam on September 24, 2007, 16:57:15 PM
Not sure if the points are allocated pro rata, but you can choose to play your regional qualifier in any region. My understanding, though, is that you cannot carry forward points earned in one region to another.

Obviously if I"m wrong, I"m sure Des will put me right.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: savagebtings on September 24, 2007, 18:40:09 PM
Can possibly make some of these, but Blackpool AND Manchester? Shame one of these couldnt have been in Leeds.
Also, the maximum 80 players? Not sure its enough tbh.Turning up at Manchester to find its already full is going to be disappointing.
Just my tuppence.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: OddPot on September 25, 2007, 14:41:42 PM
Which Gro Casino is it in Manchester???
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Swinebag on September 25, 2007, 14:52:00 PM

Which Gro Casino is it in Manchester???

G
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: DrMarbles on September 26, 2007, 11:59:16 AM

The Regional events are acting as satellites into the National events.  the 10% times £75 will come from the prize pool.  The remainder of the prize pool will be awarded to the top 10% of finishers as prize money.


Will the 10% of seats be rounded up or down?

If there are, say 25 players, will that be two seats or three?
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: kinboshi on September 26, 2007, 12:09:17 PM
Des - can you clarify how the points are to be awarded at the regional events?  If there are 12 runners (as an example), how will the points be allocated?  
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: DJKebab on September 26, 2007, 13:39:28 PM
Will the regional events be fully dealer dealt similar to the nationals?


Thanks.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: texfitz on September 27, 2007, 10:06:17 AM
quote  "Will the 10% of seats be rounded up or down?

          If there are, say 25 players, will that be two seats or three? "

i would imagine there would be 2.5 seats (10%) then you would have to re-enter a tourny with odd numbers to get the other half of seat !!!   ::)
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Swinebag on September 27, 2007, 12:49:24 PM

Will the regional events be fully dealer dealt similar to the nationals?


Thanks.


I"m sure I read that these are self dealt. There"s normally someone who"ll swap with you if you get drawn into a dealers seat 10 and you dont fancy it.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: HaworthBantam on September 27, 2007, 13:23:43 PM
Hmm, and I was pretty sure that these are dealer dealt.

I think we shall find out for sure early next week.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Paulie_D on September 27, 2007, 13:54:54 PM

Hmm, and I was pretty sure that these are dealer dealt.

I think we shall find out for sure early next week.

Ditto...I was sure that, somewhere in this myriad of posts/threads that Des confirmed they were all DEALER dealt.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Jon MW on September 27, 2007, 16:46:13 PM

...
Regional Championship events will be one day, dealer dealt, run to APAT standardised rules and offer players 2,500 starting chips and 30 minute levels.  The buy in per event will be £20, with no registration fee. 
...


:D - it"s not difficult to search you know
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: HaworthBantam on September 27, 2007, 17:32:58 PM
D"oh, thanks Jon.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Swinebag on September 27, 2007, 17:54:40 PM
 :-[consider myself slapped down for attempting a dealer scare
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Jon MW on September 28, 2007, 09:36:09 AM
Given the nature of these things I would expect for people to arrive to at least one venue and to be told that they"re self deal.

I may just be a pessimist but I prefer to think of it as realism.

There"s bound to be at least one hash up on the first running of the regionals - this is my bet as to where it"s going to come from.
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: Paulie_D on September 28, 2007, 10:15:12 AM

Given the nature of these things I would expect for people to arrive to at least one venue and to be told that they"re self deal.

There"s bound to be at least one hash up on the first running of the regionals - this is my bet as to where it"s going to come from.


Aye...that would be my guess too assuming it happens...but let"s TRY and have some faith in the Grosvenors.

Quote
I may just be a pessimist but I prefer to think of it as realism.


A Realist is just a Pessimist who has been proved right too often!
Title: Re: APAT Season Two Dates Announced
Post by: kinboshi on September 28, 2007, 10:36:30 AM
A pessimist is never disappointed.