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Title: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: APAT on June 30, 2009, 21:47:47 PM
--- ENTRY TO THIS COMPETITION IS NOW CLOSED ---


Welcome to APAT's WSOP "Fantasy Staker" competition, which will give you a chance to win a seat at the English Amateur Poker Championship in October and win an option to enter the UK Team Championship in December for your chosen forum.

Summary

We"re giving you a bankroll of $10,000 fantasy dollars to stake players at the WSOP main event. 

You can use your fantasy dollars to stake between 1 and 10 players at the event, which will start this Friday evening.  You can also choose to not spend part or all of your fantasy dollars in the hope that any positive bankroll will increase your chances of winning a prize.

Staking

The buy in for the WSOP main event is $10,000. 

If you stake one player for 50% of his buy in, you will be entitled to add 50% of his winnings to your fantasy bankroll.  You can choose to stake between 1 and 10 players for up to $10,000 fantasy dollars in total. 

Here is an example of a Fantasy Staker Scorecard:

1)  Phil Ivey - 70%
2)  Gus Hansen - 20%
3)  John Kabbaj - 10%

If when the tournament has concluded, we find that Ivey has won $100,000 and Kabbaj has won $50,000 then your return would be 70% of $100,000 ($70,000) and 10% of $50,000 ($5,000), or $75,000 in total.  You would have to deduct the $10,000 in stakes leaving you with a final Fantasy Bankroll of $65,000.

Prizes

1)  The entrant with the highest Fantasy Bankroll at the end of the competition will win a paid entry to the English Amateur Poker Championship in Bolton in October and a guaranteed option to purchase an entry for their chosen forum to the UK Team Championship scheduled for December (which will have 4 less teams than last year"s sold out event). 

2)  The next five entrants will win a clickfest pass, guaranteeing an option to purchase a seat at the English Amateur Poker Championship in Bolton.

Please feel free to tell your forum friends to take part as getting a guaranteed entry to the UK Team Championship in particular is likely to be at a premium.

Terms

1)  Members must enter their Fantasy Staker Scorecard on this thread before 8pm GMT on Friday July 3rd.

2)  One entry per member. The entry must be in an unmodified post and your first entry will count.

3)  As the final table will take place in November and for the sake of this competition, final prize money will be deemed to have been won based on the final chip counts of the 9 finalists.  For example, the chip leader will be deemed to win first place prize money, etc.  Actual prize money will be  used from positions 10 and down.  This will enable us to conclude this competition in mid July.

4)  Prizes are not transferable under any circumstances.

5)  Members have to submit their Fantasy Staker Scorecard in the above format.

6)  APAT will have the final decision on any queries arising out of this competition.

If you need inspiration, player rankings; including WSOP 2009, can be accessed via the Hendon Mob Database (http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/rankings)

GOOD LUCK!

List of Entrants

APAT
ViiperUK
lukybugur
scjn01
treydj
Swinebag22
WYoung83
AceOnTheRiver
Boosh50
Honeybadg
The Healer
bdixon888
BobbyMorton
Marty719
CrizzyConnor
GarethC
xxMAIRxx
Roscopiko
PHIL_TC
MintTrav
AMRN
Zanshin
mike saban
MJS
PKRBats
nosey-p
GregSearston
cooste
bigredders
Waz1892
siberiankhatru
Pempi
cashman0
voicofjoe
ThinkerJE
SirPercival
Bodddders
pokernuts07
PocketAmazing
THEGUY84
Coughlin
George2Loose
duke3016
ForthThistle
JamieCarra
Pears27
mal666
cincicrappykid
janc
Logie66
undisputed
lorraine1116
hollaboo
DJKebab
jayteejack
Jon MW
PokerKid14
lufc11
Jax Wild
sharplea
frankieb
jbworldwide
scouse3465
keith101
Ant1966
kev hancock
wardy
bigalhx3
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: APAT on June 30, 2009, 21:53:12 PM
I"m going to have a go at this and donate the prize if I win.

1)  Greg Raymer - 30%
2)  Phil Ivey - 30%
3)  Justin Bonomo - 10%
4)  Steve Jelinek - 10%
5)  Mark Teltscher - 10%
6)  Julian Thew - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: K3vl4rUK on June 30, 2009, 22:07:14 PM
guess i"ll give it a go.

1) Elky 30%
2) Phil Ivey 20%
3) Vanessa Rousso 20%

and im saving my last 3k to go to my profit.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: APAT on June 30, 2009, 22:23:15 PM

guess i"ll give it a go.

1) Elky 30%
2) Phil Ivey 20%
3) Vanessa Rousso 20%

and im saving my last 3k to go to my profit.


$3k could win it!
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: lukybugur on June 30, 2009, 22:24:41 PM
I WAS thinking of just keeping my entire 10k whole but, in the interests of taking part, I"ll have;

Ivan Demidov - 30%
Neil Channing - 30%
Andy Black - 20%
Mike Matusow - 10%
Allen Cunningham - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: scjn01 on June 30, 2009, 22:27:29 PM

1) Phil Hellmuth 20%
2) JC Tran 20%
3) Tom Dwan 20%
4) Johnny Chan 20%
5) Ivan Demidov 20%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on June 30, 2009, 22:29:03 PM

4)  Prizes are not transferable under any circumstances.



I"m going to have a go at this and donate the prize if I win.


:o

;D
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: treydj on June 30, 2009, 22:30:47 PM
Barry Greenstein 20%
Alexander Fitzgerald 20%
Huck Seed 20%
Ted Forrest 20%
Erick Lindgren 20%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: APAT on June 30, 2009, 22:38:52 PM


4)  Prizes are not transferable under any circumstances.



I"m going to have a go at this and donate the prize if I win.


:o

;D


LOL

6)  APAT will have the final decision on any queries arising out of this competition.

:D

ps - obviously as a member of the APAT team I could not retain any prize should I win!
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Swinebag on June 30, 2009, 22:48:27 PM
Dan Carter 30%
Dan Harrington 10%
Dan Negreanu 10%


Brian Yates 30% (if he qualifies or I"ll take the 3K)
Brian Wilson 10%
Brian Hastings 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: WYoung83 on June 30, 2009, 23:10:34 PM
Phil Hellmuth 20%
Patrick Antonius 20%
Gavin Smith 20%

Andy Bloch 10%
Phil Galfond 10%
Jean Robert Ballande 10%
jeff Lisandro 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: MintTrav on June 30, 2009, 23:11:49 PM
Des, is the English Amateur still in October? Hasn"t changed, has it?
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: APAT on June 30, 2009, 23:13:29 PM

Des, is the English Amateur still in October? Hasn"t changed, has it?


Oops, spot on John, I"ll amend the OP to October.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: duke3016 on June 30, 2009, 23:28:18 PM
confused -- will post when sober
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: APAT on June 30, 2009, 23:32:35 PM

confused -- will post when sober


closing Friday...  ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: duke3016 on June 30, 2009, 23:37:45 PM


confused -- will post when sober


closing Friday...  ;)


what year
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: AceOnTheRiver on June 30, 2009, 23:40:01 PM
Mike Matusow 20%
Phil Hellmuth 20% (much as it pains me)
Huck Seed 10%
Jeff Lisandro 10%
Greg Raymer 10%
Daniel Negreanu 10%
Chris Ferguson 10%
Scotty Nguyen 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Boosh50 on June 30, 2009, 23:56:13 PM
Fantasy WSOP - here goes:

1) Barry Greenstein 20%
2) J C Tran 30%
3) Neil Channing 20%
4) Vanessa Rousso 15%
5) Devilfish 15%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on July 01, 2009, 01:17:27 AM
Fantasy WSOP Selections:

Josh Arieh - 10%
Yevgeny Timoshenko - 10%
Dario Minieri - 10%
Praz Bansi - 10%
Ramzi Jelassi - 10%
Phil Galfond - 10%
Carlos Mortensen - 10%
Hoyt Corkins - 10%
Scott Fischman - 10%
Isaac Haxton - 10%

Louis
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: The Healer on July 01, 2009, 08:45:06 AM
Ivan Demidov  30%
Vitaly Lunkin   30%
Daniel Negreanu 20%
Greg Raymer    10%
Roland de Wolfe 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: bdixon888 on July 01, 2009, 08:56:59 AM
Dan Harrington       40%
Daniel Negreanu      10%
Phil Hellmuth           20%
Ivan Dimidov          20%
Peter Eastgate       10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: BobbyMorton on July 01, 2009, 08:58:39 AM
Fantasy WSOP Selections

Ville Wahlbeck    25%
John  Kabbaj      25%
Brandon Cantu    25%
David  Chiu         25%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Marty719 on July 01, 2009, 09:14:46 AM
Ville Wahlbeck 100%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 01, 2009, 10:34:05 AM
Issac Haxton - 20%
Justin Bonomo - 20%
Jason Mercier - 20%
Phil Hellmuth - 15%
Daniel Negreanu - 15%
Phil Ivey - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Jon MW on July 01, 2009, 10:50:47 AM

...
Terms

1)  Members must enter their Fantasy Staker Scorecard on this thread before 8pm GMT on Friday July 3rd.

...


:( This really doesn"t give me enough time for proper analysis to make an informed decision.

Speaking of which does anyone know anywhere you can download all the ME results in a spreadsheet format?
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: lukybugur on July 01, 2009, 12:15:03 PM
 ::)

Taking it too seriously me thinx
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: GarethC on July 01, 2009, 12:57:49 PM
Neil Channing - 30%
Shaun Deeb - 20%
Phil Ivey - 20%
Jamie Roberts - 10%
James Keys - 10%
Chris Ferguson - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Marty719 on July 01, 2009, 13:20:21 PM

Neil Channing - 30%
Shaun Deeb - 20%
Phil Ivey - 20%
Jamie Roberts - 10%
James Keys - 10%
Chris Ferguson - 10%


Wana side-bet ur team against mine??  Il only ask for 9/2 :)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Roscopiko on July 01, 2009, 14:17:54 PM

Welcome to APAT's WSOP "Fantasy Staker" competition, which will give you a chance to win a seat at the English Amateur Poker Championship in October and win an option to enter the UK Team Championship in December for your chosen forum.


In the unlikely event of someone picking a FT player what is the payout as this will be played in November?
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 01, 2009, 14:28:00 PM


Welcome to APAT's WSOP "Fantasy Staker" competition, which will give you a chance to win a seat at the English Amateur Poker Championship in October and win an option to enter the UK Team Championship in December for your chosen forum.


In the unlikely event of someone picking a FT player what is the payout as this will be played in November?




3)  As the final table will take place in November and for the sake of this competition, final prize money will be deemed to have been won based on the final chip counts of the 9 finalists.  For example, the chip leader will be deemed to win first place prize money, etc.  Actual prize money will be  used from positions 10 and down.  This will enable us to conclude this competition in mid July.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: MAIR on July 01, 2009, 14:32:43 PM
1. Phil Hellmuth - 20%
2. Phil Ivey - 20%
3. Ivan Demidov - 30%
4. David Williams - 30%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Roscopiko on July 01, 2009, 14:48:48 PM



Welcome to APAT's WSOP "Fantasy Staker" competition, which will give you a chance to win a seat at the English Amateur Poker Championship in October and win an option to enter the UK Team Championship in December for your chosen forum.


In the unlikely event of someone picking a FT player what is the payout as this will be played in November?




3)  As the final table will take place in November and for the sake of this competition, final prize money will be deemed to have been won based on the final chip counts of the 9 finalists.  For example, the chip leader will be deemed to win first place prize money, etc.  Actual prize money will be  used from positions 10 and down.  This will enable us to conclude this competition in mid July.



Doh! Thanks
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Roscopiko on July 01, 2009, 14:54:40 PM
Carlos Mortensen - 10%
Daniel Negreanu - 10%
Dario Minieri -10%
Gus Hansen - 10%
Allen Cunningham - 10%
Patrick Antonius - 10%
Ville Wahlbeck - 10%
Phil Hellmuth - 10%
Phil Ivey - 10%
Gavin Griffin - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: PHIL_TC on July 01, 2009, 15:33:37 PM
Erik Seidel - 25%
Allen Cunningham - 25%
Gus Hansen - 25%
Carlos Mortensen - 25%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: MintTrav on July 01, 2009, 15:38:11 PM
Daniel Negreanu
Phil Hellmuth
Mike Matusow
Ivan Demidov
TJ Cloutier
Spencer Lawrence
Dave Colclough
Keith Hawkins
Scotty Nguyen
Phil Ivey

10% each
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: AMRN on July 01, 2009, 16:17:17 PM
Neil Channing - 20%
Praz Bansi - 20%
Tom Dwan - 15%
Daniel Negreanu - 15%
Roland De Wolfe - 10%
Dario Minieri - 10%
Dave Ulliot - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Zanshin on July 01, 2009, 16:53:35 PM
No time to give this any thought  :-[

Allen Cunningham 100%

Job done  :P
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: mike saban on July 01, 2009, 17:28:09 PM
Huck Seed
Andy Black
John Juanda
Max Pescatori
Daniel Negreanu
Phil Hellmuth
Jason Mercier
Phil Ivey
John Duthie
Gus Hansen

10% each
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: MJS on July 01, 2009, 17:34:34 PM
Allen Cunningham - 25%
Daniel Negreanu - 25%
Phil Ivey - 20%
John Juanda - 10%
JC Tran - 10%
Kenny Tran - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: PKRBats on July 01, 2009, 18:21:01 PM
Daniel Negreanu - 10%
John Juanda - 10%
JC Tran - 20%
Ivan Demidov - 20%
Mike Matusow - 20%
Daniel Negreanu - 20%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: nosey-p on July 01, 2009, 18:25:24 PM
Daniel Negreanu  35%
Phil Ivy  35%
Neil Channing  15%
Roland De Wolfe  15%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: GregSearston on July 01, 2009, 19:06:40 PM
Gavin Griffin - 25%
Bertrand Grospellier - 25%
Phil Ivey - 10%
Mike Matusow - 10%
Jeff Lisandro - 10%
Greg Mueller - 10%
Ylon Schwartz - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 01, 2009, 19:09:03 PM
Just wondering - if one of your picks happens to not play in the Main Event do you get the money you have "staked" to them back in your bankroll? Realise it may take too much work to look out EVERY player but if you can prove they"ve not played via some sort of link I mean...
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: cooste on July 01, 2009, 19:37:54 PM
Allen Cunningham - 10%
Huck Seed - 10%
Chris Ferguson - 10%
Mike Matusow - 10%
Jeff Lisandro - 10%
Daniel Negreanu - 10%
Alexander Kravchenko -10%
Layne Flack -10%
Kirk Morrison - 10%
Erik Seidel - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: bigredders on July 01, 2009, 19:42:12 PM
allen cunnigham 20%
jason mercier 20%
phil hellmuth 20%
phil ivey 20%
james akenhead 10%
praz bansi 10%

Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Waz1892 on July 01, 2009, 19:54:37 PM
Alan Cunningham 20%
Phil Ivey     20%
Vanessa Rousso 20%
Erik Sidel 20%
Ivan Demidov (u just never know!)  10%
Daniel Negreanu 10%

Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: siberiankhatru on July 01, 2009, 20:47:01 PM
Sticking all my eggs in one basket!

Bertrand "Elky" Grospellier 100%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Pempi on July 01, 2009, 20:47:43 PM
Jason Mercier - 20%
Daniel Negreanu - 20%
Phil Ivey - 20%
Barry Greenstein - 10%
Mike Matusow - 10%
Allen Cunningham - 10%
Sebastian Ruthenberg - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: K3vl4rUK on July 01, 2009, 21:10:05 PM

Sticking all my eggs in one basket!

Bertrand "Elky" Grospellier 100%


lol that beats my 30% if he cashes :P
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: APAT on July 01, 2009, 21:35:00 PM

Just wondering - if one of your picks happens to not play in the Main Event do you get the money you have "staked" to them back in your bankroll? Realise it may take too much work to look out EVERY player but if you can prove they"ve not played via some sort of link I mean...


lol, no - sorry!
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: duke3016 on July 01, 2009, 21:51:36 PM


Just wondering - if one of your picks happens to not play in the Main Event do you get the money you have "staked" to them back in your bankroll? Realise it may take too much work to look out EVERY player but if you can prove they"ve not played via some sort of link I mean...


lol, no - sorry!


so polite -- just so polite -- gotta luv him
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: cashman on July 01, 2009, 22:20:51 PM
barry greenstein - 10%
dario minirei - 10%
phil ivey - 30%
tom dwan - 20%
j c tran - 20%
daniel nagreanu - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: voiceofjoe on July 01, 2009, 22:55:27 PM
10% Each

Eric Siedel
Sorrel Mizzi
Chris Moorman
Layne Flack
Annie Duke
Jeff Kimber
Paul Foltyn
Praz Bansi
Andy Black
Huck Seed
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: WYoung83 on July 01, 2009, 23:14:47 PM
quite a few people have picked Durrrr, was gonna pick him myself, but then this thought came to my mind
....he is a cash game specialist, and he will not take the event seriously,

look at it from his point of view?

"why am i sitting here, im board because im just playing 1 table, for like 10 hours, and to make money i will be playing for 5 days straight when i could be playing 8 tables on Fulltilt making $1000s every hour from Gus,...stuff this -EV im losing money without my laptop...... im going all in".

Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 01, 2009, 23:20:19 PM

quite a few people have picked Durrrr, was gonna pick him myself, but then this thought came to my mind
....he is a cash game specialist, and he will not take the event seriously,

look at it from his point of view?

"why am i sitting here, im board because im just playing 1 table, for like 10 hours, and to make money i will be playing for 5 days straight when i could be playing 8 tables on Fulltilt making $1000s every hour from Gus,...stuff this -EV im losing money without my laptop...... im going all in".




Have you seen the high limit tables on Full Tilt recently? Ghost town... A couple of hours for the Durrr challenge with PA, apart from that though  ???
Been fairly dead since Guy Laliberte (sp?) stopped playing...
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on July 01, 2009, 23:21:00 PM

quite a few people have picked Durrrr, was gonna pick him myself, but then this thought came to my mind
....he is a cash game specialist, and he will not take the event seriously,

look at it from his point of view?

"why am i sitting here, im board because im just playing 1 table, for like 10 hours, and to make money i will be playing for 5 days straight when i could be playing 8 tables on Fulltilt making $1000s every hour from Gus,...stuff this -EV im losing money without my laptop...... im going all in".




It might stop him donking off $1m with the chance to win $8m ... he will go in aggressive but with a view to creating a massive stack to bully everyone ... if he wins might win big??

L
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: jbworldwide on July 01, 2009, 23:29:14 PM
Dwan knows how to apply constant pressure, he will fire bet after bet after bet.

what he hopes for is people think he has air when he has a monster, he will get paid a lot for his image i think, or he will bust early playing for the win

Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: ThinkerJE on July 02, 2009, 01:46:47 AM
My 10 against the field, all 10%;

Praz Bansi
Jeff Lisandro
Neil Blatchley
Allen Cunningham
Phil Hellmuth
JC Tran
Roland De Wolfe
Thomas Keller
Vitaly Lunkin
Juha Hellpi
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: SirPercival on July 02, 2009, 01:47:26 AM
I"ll keep my $10,000 in my pocket thank you.
I might not win but I"ll have more left than most  ;D
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 02, 2009, 01:52:44 AM

I"ll keep my $10,000 in my pocket thank you.
I might not win but I"ll have more left than most  ;D


Might not win but think there could be a good chance of you making the top 5 and get an option  ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Bodddders on July 02, 2009, 08:11:25 AM
20% on each

Greg Mueller
John Brock Parker
Alexander Kravchenko
Huck Seed
Brandon Cantu
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: nosey-p on July 02, 2009, 08:28:34 AM

I"ll keep my $10,000 in my pocket thank you.
I might not win but I"ll have more left than most  ;D


Typical Scotsman, keep his hands in is pockets
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: pokernuts07 on July 02, 2009, 09:48:54 AM
Erick Lindgren - 10%
Jason Mercier - 10%
Phil Ivey - 10%
Barry Greenstein - 10%
Jeff Lisandro - 10%
Vitaly Lunkin - 10%
Roland De Wolfe - 10%

& I"ll save the remaining 3k

Grant
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Jon MW on July 02, 2009, 11:16:35 AM

Dwan knows how to apply constant pressure, he will fire bet after bet after bet.

what he hopes for is people think he has air when he has a monster, he will get paid a lot for his image i think, or he will bust early playing for the win




The numbers will get him - there are just too many players to get through for his style to work imo
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: PocketAmazing on July 02, 2009, 13:04:26 PM
Phil Hellmuth          20%
Dan Negreanu        20%
Barry Greenstein     20%
Allen Cunningham    20%
John Juanda          10%
Mike Matisow         10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Waz1892 on July 02, 2009, 13:20:47 PM

quite a few people have picked Durrrr, was gonna pick him myself, but then this thought came to my mind
....he is a cash game specialist, and he will not take the event seriously,

look at it from his point of view?

"why am i sitting here, im board because im just playing 1 table, for like 10 hours, and to make money i will be playing for 5 days straight when i could be playing 8 tables on Fulltilt making $1000s every hour from Gus,...stuff this -EV im losing money without my laptop...... im going all in".




whiel i understand the benefits of him playing cash for profit...but it would be a sad day if the biggest, and best poker tournament in the game isn"t taken seriously by the best players.

Most of the pro players don"t really have to be concerned with making money anymore...it is a few weeks..with the prospect of becoming a true legend in the game, and admired by your peers?

the money that comes along with the status and admiration is a bonus-  at least at this level.?
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Waz1892 on July 02, 2009, 13:21:55 PM
oh wow..that rant made me a gold member! 500 posts..cool
:)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: AMRN on July 02, 2009, 14:11:49 PM
Durrr wouldn"t enter if he didnt want to win. He knows it"s a several day grind before making any money, and a much lower EV than playing PLO on FT - but he will be expecting that, and be prepared for it.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: THEGUY84 on July 02, 2009, 14:53:18 PM

JC Tran , 30%
Alan cunningham, 20%
John Juanda, 10%
Danial Alaei,10%
Lee Watkinson, 15%
Kathy Liebert, 7.5%
Daniel Negreanu, 7.5%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Coughlin on July 02, 2009, 16:57:35 PM
Daniel Negreanu - 20%
Jason Mercier - 20%
Justin Bonomo - 20%

Isaac Baron - 15%

Phil Helmuth - 10%
Erick Lindgren - 10%

Neil Channing - 5%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: George2Loose on July 02, 2009, 19:43:04 PM

Durrr wouldn"t enter if he didnt want to win. He knows it"s a several day grind before making any money, and a much lower EV than playing PLO on FT - but he will be expecting that, and be prepared for it.


He"ll just play a very high variance game- his hourly rate on cash will be much better unless he goes ridic deep
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: George2Loose on July 02, 2009, 19:50:55 PM
My picks are as follows:

Brandon Cantu: 8%
John Tabaitabai: 8%
Neil Blatchley: 8%
John Turner (FT pro): 8%
Nik Persaud: 8%
Vanessa Rousso: 20%
Neil Channing: 20%
Isaac Haxton: 10%
Steve Paul Ambrose: 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: duke3016 on July 02, 2009, 20:08:01 PM
Ivan Demidov 10%
John Strzemp 10%
Julian Gardner 10%
Sam Farha 10%
Alan Goehring 10%
Paul Wasicka 10%
David Williams 10%
Dewey Tomko 10%
Erik Seidel 10%
T.J. Cloutier 10%

Spot the trend lol
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: ForthThistle on July 02, 2009, 20:27:21 PM
Here is my tuppence worth..

Erik Lindgren - 10%
Phil Ivey - 10%
Daniel Nagraneu - 10%
Patrick Antonius - 10%
Boatman Bros - 5% each
JC Tran - 10%
John Juanda - 10%
Neil Channing - 10%
Haved Khan - 10%
Mike Matisouw - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: lukybugur on July 02, 2009, 20:27:42 PM

Ivan Demidov 10%
John Strzemp 10%
Julian Gardner 10%
Sam Farha 10%
Alan Goehring 10%
Paul Wasicka 10%
David Williams 10%
Dewey Tomko 10%
Erik Seidel 10%
T.J. Cloutier 10%

Spot the trend lol


The nearly men
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: APAT on July 02, 2009, 20:56:16 PM
Love the nearly men selection. 

I will be publishing the APAT Rankings totalled over the last three years; ahem, shortly, and there will be a few surprises at one or two of the nearly men on that list.  It will also answer without doubt who operates the best home game in the UK...
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: WYoung83 on July 02, 2009, 21:53:46 PM
Great idea...We should have home game competitions between each other..probably been disscussed before.

LOL ...idea for Season 4 anyone???
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: duke3016 on July 02, 2009, 22:05:28 PM

Great idea...We should have home game competitions between each other..probably been disscussed before.

LOL ...idea for Season 4 anyone???


Chezger will host -- (any excuse for a pi$$ up)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 02, 2009, 23:03:32 PM
44 entries so far with a whopping 102 different players picked.

Good to see everyones in agreement.   ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Pears27 on July 02, 2009, 23:14:16 PM
50% John Juanda
50% Jen Harman

(taking half of Jen Harman makes me wonder which half I"d prefer...)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: JamieCarra on July 02, 2009, 23:16:17 PM
20% Phil Hellmuth
10% Bill Chen
20% Allen Cunningham
10% Marty Smyth
20% Mike Matusow
10% Brian Townsend
10%Andy Bloch
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: mal666 on July 03, 2009, 08:27:58 AM
25% Gregior
25% Pab
25% Moorman
24% Up the Mariners
1% Wayne Mardle
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: cincicrappykid on July 03, 2009, 09:03:17 AM
negreanu  20%
jc tran     20%
tom dwan 20%
phil ivey   20%
helmuth   20%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: janc on July 03, 2009, 10:46:26 AM
Greg Raymer-35%
Phil Hellmuth -35%
Chris Ferguson -30%                                                                                
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: K3vl4rUK on July 03, 2009, 10:58:37 AM

50% John Juanda
50% Jen Harman

(taking half of Jen Harman makes me wonder which half I"d prefer...)


Don"t lie ur wondering wat half of john juanda u want :p

Vanessa rousso better anyway :p
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Logie66 on July 03, 2009, 11:40:05 AM
Alan Cunningham - 35%
Mike Matusow - 35%
Barry Greenstein - 30%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: undisputed on July 03, 2009, 11:59:24 AM
ok. . . 
Juha Helppi 10%
Roberto Romanello 25%
Dan Carter 10%
Andrew Feldman 15%
Daniel Negreanu 20%
Andy black 12.5%
Joe Hachem 7.5%

oh. . .my fantasy picks btw ! :-)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: lorraine1116 on July 03, 2009, 12:27:24 PM
Daniel Negreanu 30%
Phill Hellmuth 20%
Ivan Demidov 20%
Phill Ivy 15%
Annie Duke 15%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: hollaboo on July 03, 2009, 12:36:42 PM
alan cunningham  15%
gus hansen  15%
phil ivey  15%
roland de wolfe  15%
alex kravchenko  15%
michael binger  15%
greg raymer  10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: DJKebab on July 03, 2009, 12:58:05 PM
Negreanu - 25%
Hellmuth - 25%
Ivey - 10%
Jeff Madsen - 10%
Annie Duke - 5%
Justin Bonomo - 5%
Jeff Lisandro - 10%
Vanessa Rousso - 5%
Evelyn Ng - 5%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: MintTrav on July 03, 2009, 13:14:33 PM


I"ll keep my $10,000 in my pocket thank you.
I might not win but I"ll have more left than most  ;D


Might not win but think there could be a good chance of you making the top 5 and get an option  ;)


No chance. The rest of us only have to hit one cashing player to be ahead.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: jayteejack on July 03, 2009, 13:18:55 PM
phil ivey 13%
daniel negreanu 13%
gus hansen 13%
tom dwan 13%
andrew black 8%
juha helppi 8%
ivan demidov 8%
john juanda 8%
barry greenstein 8%
allen cunningham 8%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Jon MW on July 03, 2009, 13:34:35 PM



I"ll keep my $10,000 in my pocket thank you.
I might not win but I"ll have more left than most  ;D


Might not win but think there could be a good chance of you making the top 5 and get an option  ;)


No chance. The rest of us only have to hit one cashing player to be ahead.


My analysis has been rushed but statistically I think this might actually be the winning strategy.

But that"d be boring so just need to put the finishing touches to my selection.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Jon MW on July 03, 2009, 14:01:51 PM



Phil Hellmuth Jr 10%
Erik Seidel10%
Humberto Brenes10%
Thor Hansen10%
Daniel Negreanu10%
Allen Cunningham10%
David Chiu 10%
Dan Heimiller10%
Phil Ivey10%
Randy Holland 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: gomarrrahh on July 03, 2009, 14:32:39 PM
Gotta give this a go me thinks:

Mike Matusow 10%
JC Tran 10%
Phil Hellmuth 20%
Humberto Buenes (sp?) 10%
Daniel Negreanu 20%
Vitaly Lunkin 10%
Scott Clements 5%
Kenny Tran 5%
Huck Seed 10%

Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: lufc11 on July 03, 2009, 15:00:36 PM
Il have

Phil Ivey - 30%
Daniel Negreanu - 20%
Vanessa Rousso - 15%
Tom "Durrr" Dwan -20%
Ivan Demidov -  15%

That how you do it??
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Jax Wild on July 03, 2009, 17:06:25 PM
think i should put "unknown internet qualifer 100%"  but will actually do the following:

Jerrod Ankenman - 15%
Gavin Smith - 15%
Scotty Nguyen - 15%
Nenad Medic - 15%
Bernard Grospellier (Elky) - 10%
Phil Hellmuth - 10%
Daniel Negreanu - 10%
Phil Ivey - 10%

great idea by the way - though sorting all this out looks like a nightmare !!
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: KarmaDope on July 03, 2009, 17:18:35 PM
I"m being boring. $10k in my back pocket tyvm.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: frankieb on July 03, 2009, 17:53:24 PM
Ivan Demidov 50%
Vitaly Lunkin 20%
Andy Black 10%
Roland De Wolfe 10%
John Parker 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: jbworldwide on July 03, 2009, 17:56:21 PM
Ivan Demidov 25%
Jason Mercier 20%
Elky 20%
Hevad Kahn 10%
Phil Ivey 10%
Humberto Brenes 10%
Gus Hansen 5%
Patrik Antonius 5%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: scouse3465 on July 03, 2009, 18:01:09 PM
phil ivey 40%
Mike Matusow 20%
Elky 20%
Phill Hellmuth 20%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: APAT on July 03, 2009, 18:17:26 PM

think i should put "unknown internet qualifer 100%"  but will actually do the following:

Jerrod Ankenman - 15%
Gavin Smith - 15%
Scotty Nguyen - 15%
Nenad Medic - 15%
Bernard Grospellier (Elky) - 10%
Phil Hellmuth - 10%
Daniel Negreanu - 10%
Phil Ivey - 10%

great idea by the way - though sorting all this out looks like a nightmare !!



Thanks and Leigh assures me he is "on it".

(http://musicismywife.com/mag/wp-content/uploads/crazy-drunk-man.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 03, 2009, 19:19:21 PM



I"ll keep my $10,000 in my pocket thank you.
I might not win but I"ll have more left than most  ;D


Might not win but think there could be a good chance of you making the top 5 and get an option  ;)


No chance. The rest of us only have to hit one cashing player to be ahead.


Not really. You and a lot of people have 10% of 10 players. If one of them cashes for the minimum you"re only making around the $2,000 mark (the min-cash at the 2008 WSOP was $21230). At 10% stake of a player and having one player cashing, like you said, you would need (basing my calculations on the 2008 payout list) one player to break the top 63 to beat his $10k.

2008 payout:
64th - 72nd =  $96,500
55th - 63rd = $115,800

While spreading your bets accross 10 players gives you a greater chance of having a player make this top 63 in all reality you will either need multiple cashes or one MAJOR cash to beat the $10k that he"s keeping in his pocket. Like someone already said though - there"s no fun in keeping the $10k in your pocket.

Thank you please.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: keith101 on July 03, 2009, 19:25:05 PM
Phil Hellmuth
Daniel Negreanu
Patrik Antonius
Allen Cunningham
Mike Matusow
Roland de Wolfe
Dutch Boyd
Roberto Romanello
Vitaly Lunkin
Phil Ivey
10 % on each
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Ant1966 on July 03, 2009, 19:29:11 PM
Kara Scott 20%
Gavin Smith 20%
Chris Moorman 20%
Greg Raymer 20%
Allen Cunningham 20%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: kev hancock on July 03, 2009, 19:58:07 PM
daniel negreanu        34%                                                                                        
allen cunningham     33%
neil channing            33%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: SirPercival on July 03, 2009, 20:45:57 PM




I"ll keep my $10,000 in my pocket thank you.
I might not win but I"ll have more left than most  ;D


Might not win but think there could be a good chance of you making the top 5 and get an option  ;)


No chance. The rest of us only have to hit one cashing player to be ahead.


Not really. You and a lot of people have 10% of 10 players. If one of them cashes for the minimum you"re only making around the $2,000 mark (the min-cash at the 2008 WSOP was $21230). At 10% stake of a player and having one player cashing, like you said, you would need (basing my calculations on the 2008 payout list) one player to break the top 63 to beat his $10k.

2008 payout:
64th - 72nd =  $96,500
55th - 63rd = $115,800

While spreading your bets accross 10 players gives you a greater chance of having a player make this top 63 in all reality you will either need multiple cashes or one MAJOR cash to beat the $10k that he"s keeping in his pocket. Like someone already said though - there"s no fun in keeping the $10k in your pocket.
Thank you please.


If you ever find yourself bored with $10k in your pocket please let me know.  ;D
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: wardy on July 03, 2009, 20:50:25 PM
Im an hour late because ive only just got back from working away so if thats too late i dont mind....but i"ll have a crack anyway!

Phil Ivey 10%
Daniel Negreanu 10%
Phil Hellmuth 10%
Phil Galfond 10%
J.C Tran 10%
Niel Channing 10%
Erik Seidel 10%
Alan Cunningham 10%
Annette Obrastad 10%
Bertrand Grospellier (ELKY) 10%

Sorry for any spelling mistakes but i think youll know who i mean!
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: bigalhx3 on July 03, 2009, 21:04:50 PM
jc tran          40%
John Juanda   30%
Isaac Haxton  20%  out
Gavin Griffin    10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 03, 2009, 21:49:25 PM

Im an hour late

Annette Obrastad 10%



An hour late and a year too early  ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: wardy on July 03, 2009, 22:06:38 PM


Im an hour late

Annette Obrastad 10%



An hour late and a year too early  ;)



Lol....oh yeah, forgot about being 21 played a big role! I should have picked jason mercier anyway!
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 03, 2009, 22:46:41 PM



Im an hour late

Annette Obrastad 10%



An hour late and a year too early  ;)



Lol....oh yeah, forgot about being 21 played a big role! I should have picked jason mercier anyway!


i"ll sort it   ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Swinebag on July 03, 2009, 22:53:02 PM
One of my horses had a lucky escape in the first level

from Dan Carter"s twitter

"Omg. I run good. Called a raise with T8 after donk in EP makes it 3x. Sb 3bets and EP 4-bets. Flop 88Q and EP had QQ."
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: mal666 on July 03, 2009, 23:10:53 PM

One of my horses had a lucky escape in the first level

from Dan Carter"s twitter

"Omg. I run good. Called a raise with T8 after donk in EP makes it 3x. Sb 3bets and EP 4-bets. Flop 88Q and EP had QQ."

Fold pre
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Swinebag on July 03, 2009, 23:13:18 PM


One of my horses had a lucky escape in the first level

from Dan Carter"s twitter

"Omg. I run good. Called a raise with T8 after donk in EP makes it 3x. Sb 3bets and EP 4-bets. Flop 88Q and EP had QQ."

Fold pre


thats a pretty standard deepstack flat in position.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 03, 2009, 23:18:03 PM




Im an hour late

Annette Obrastad 10%



An hour late and a year too early  ;)



Lol....oh yeah, forgot about being 21 played a big role! I should have picked jason mercier anyway!


i"ll sort it   ;)


Would this not infringe:


Terms

2)  One entry per member. The entry must be in an unmodified post and your first entry will count.


Kind of along these lines imo...



Just wondering - if one of your picks happens to not play in the Main Event do you get the money you have "staked" to them back in your bankroll? Realise it may take too much work to look out EVERY player but if you can prove they"ve not played via some sort of link I mean...


lol, no - sorry!


Harsh I know but it was already after 8pm surely the one free pass has already been used?

Rule Nazi ftw :D
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on July 04, 2009, 01:26:57 AM
... wow ... one of my misfits on the leaderboard ... Ramzi Jelassi hits 19th on 47,100 ...

Perhaps my only moment of glory ...

L
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 04, 2009, 01:29:49 AM

... wow ... one of my misfits on the leaderboard ... Ramzi Jelassi hits 19th on 47,100 ...

Perhaps my only moment of glory ...

L


Where you getting chip updates from?

Any notable exits yet?
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on July 04, 2009, 01:37:30 AM
... http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/tourney/updatelander--new.asp?rr=3

One of my home game players on 37k ... should have picked him for a few % ... if Mark Bramley goes far you heard it first here ...

L
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: George2Loose on July 04, 2009, 03:31:41 AM
go Steve PA!!!
From pokernews:

Wooka Walks
With the action slowly folding round to Wooka Kim in the small blind, she opened with a raise to 700.

Steve Paul-Ambrose made the call from the big blind, and when Kim checked the  flop, he fired out 900.

Kim then made it 3,000 to go before Paul-Ambrose instantly made it 10,000 to put Kim all in. Kim obliged by sliding her last ten yellow 1,000-denomination chips into the pot and the cards were tabled.

Kim:
Paul-Ambrose:

With Paul-Ambrose in bad shape to only a king, or running straight or flush cards, he would hit gin on the turn when it landed the .

Now needing to catch her two-outer to stay alive, Kim would unfortunately only see the  land on the river, and a hasty exit follow.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on July 04, 2009, 11:52:05 AM
... some big name casualties ...

http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/tourney/tournament-chip-counts.asp?tid=7283&grid=607

Andy Bloch
Men "The Master" Nguyen
Alen Cunningham
Isaac Haxton
Chris Moorman
Freddy Deeb.

My home game player - Mark B - is on 69k - Average 42k - I of course declined a slice of the action!

L
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Jon MW on July 04, 2009, 12:03:50 PM

... some big name casualties ...

http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/tourney/tournament-chip-counts.asp?tid=7283&grid=607

Andy Bloch
Men "The Master" Nguyen
Alen Cunningham
Isaac Haxton
Chris Moorman
Freddy Deeb.

My home game player - Mark B - is on 69k - Average 42k - I of course declined a slice of the action!

L


A lot of people have Allen Cunningham

although


No time to give this any thought  :-[

Allen Cunningham 100%

Job done  :P


Not all by that much

:D
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: MintTrav on July 04, 2009, 12:48:52 PM




I"ll keep my $10,000 in my pocket thank you.
I might not win but I"ll have more left than most  ;D


Might not win but think there could be a good chance of you making the top 5 and get an option  ;)


No chance. The rest of us only have to hit one cashing player to be ahead.


Not really. You and a lot of people have 10% of 10 players. If one of them cashes for the minimum you"re only making around the $2,000 mark (the min-cash at the 2008 WSOP was $21230). At 10% stake of a player and having one player cashing, like you said, you would need (basing my calculations on the 2008 payout list) one player to break the top 63 to beat his $10k.

2008 payout:
64th - 72nd =  $96,500
55th - 63rd = $115,800

While spreading your bets accross 10 players gives you a greater chance of having a player make this top 63 in all reality you will either need multiple cashes or one MAJOR cash to beat the $10k that he"s keeping in his pocket. Like someone already said though - there"s no fun in keeping the $10k in your pocket.

Thank you please.


And how many people have entered this? I"ll bet you an APAT National Event entry fee that he doesn"t win.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: mal666 on July 04, 2009, 15:01:36 PM

25% Gregior               Through
25% Pab                    Trough
25% Moorman  
24% Up the Mariners    Through
1% Wayne Mardle        No idea if he`s playing tbh but he fell at first hurdle in the darts so may have entered

Woohoo he is on the list, Hawaii 50
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on July 05, 2009, 11:37:46 AM
... there should be a Wayne Mardle multiplier ... if he cashes that would be pick of the century ...

Numbers of runners pretty low for days 1A and 1B ... 1116 + 873 ... are we going to be under 4,000??

Record is 8773!

Out on day 1B

Doyle Brunson
Vicky Coren
Chris Moneymaker ... 873 Runners on 1B ... 839 Total when he won it ...

L
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: K3vl4rUK on July 05, 2009, 12:08:34 PM

... there should be a Wayne Mardle multiplier ... if he cashes that would be pick of the century ...

Numbers of runners pretty low for days 1A and 1B ... 1116 + 873 ... are we going to be under 4,000??

Record is 8773!

Out on day 1B

Doyle Brunson
Vicky Coren
Chris Moneymaker ... 873 Runners on 1B ... 839 Total when he won it ...

L


remember it was 4th of july so people gonna be out on the piss up lol.

big days will be today n tommorow i reckon.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Swinebag on July 05, 2009, 13:25:27 PM

Numbers of runners pretty low for days 1A and 1B ... 1116 + 873 ... are we going to be under 4,000??


I reckon they"ll get more for the next 2 days but still the lowest turnout for a few years now
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: K3vl4rUK on July 05, 2009, 20:40:13 PM
fun time in day 1 c

after being told they are to play an extra level tonight along with day 1d we have

First Elimination (7 Minutes In)  

You can all relax now, Main Event players. One poor soul is already out. On a flop of  jd th 5d   , one player bet, a second player moved all in, a third player flat-called the all in and the original bettor flashed  :as: ac   and folded. "All in and call on Table 9!" A murmur went through the crowd as they heard that death knell for the first time today. Media and ESPN cameras circled the table. The tournament clock showed 1:53 remaining in the level, meaning only seven minutes had ticked away. One player had  td ts   for middle set. The other had  5s 5h   for bottom set. The turn was the  4s , the river was the  7h and the player with the tens doubled up to 60,000 while the player with the fives walked away from the table completely gobsmacked at what had just happened to him. $10,000 up in smoke in only 7 minutes... only at the World Series of Poker.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Jax Wild on July 06, 2009, 16:29:17 PM
SOME CASUALTIES GOT FROM THE ESPN WEBSITE:

Brandon Cantu
Tom McEvoy
Annie Duke
Liv Boeree
jamie Gold
Chino Reem

and

Dan Negreanu  (damn, theres 10% i won"t get)

Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: APAT on July 06, 2009, 18:03:30 PM

I"m going to have a go at this and donate the prize if I win.

1)  Greg Raymer - 30%
2)  Phil Ivey - 30%
3)  Justin Bonomo - 10%
4)  Steve Jelinek - 10%
5)  Mark Teltscher - 10%
6)  Julian Thew - 10%


5 of 6 through to day two with Phil Ivey playing this evening for the clean sweep.  Not just a pretty face, see  ;)

(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s68/kenwayneash/Monsters/UglyFace2.jpg)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: K3vl4rUK on July 06, 2009, 18:21:01 PM
lol not a single one of my stakes have played day 1 yet lol
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 06, 2009, 20:01:12 PM





I"ll keep my $10,000 in my pocket thank you.
I might not win but I"ll have more left than most  ;D


Might not win but think there could be a good chance of you making the top 5 and get an option  ;)


No chance. The rest of us only have to hit one cashing player to be ahead.


Not really. You and a lot of people have 10% of 10 players. If one of them cashes for the minimum you"re only making around the $2,000 mark (the min-cash at the 2008 WSOP was $21230). At 10% stake of a player and having one player cashing, like you said, you would need (basing my calculations on the 2008 payout list) one player to break the top 63 to beat his $10k.

2008 payout:
64th - 72nd =  $96,500
55th - 63rd = $115,800

While spreading your bets accross 10 players gives you a greater chance of having a player make this top 63 in all reality you will either need multiple cashes or one MAJOR cash to beat the $10k that he"s keeping in his pocket. Like someone already said though - there"s no fun in keeping the $10k in your pocket.

Thank you please.


And how many people have entered this? I"ll bet you an APAT National Event entry fee that he doesn"t win.


Tell me exactly in which part of my post I said that he"d win it? I said he had a good chance of finishing in the top 5 and getting an option. Your point was that "The rest of us only have to hit one cashing player to be ahead" and I merely stated that you were wrong unless said player made top 63 (or you had a higher % of them, which you don"t).

I don"t really gamble other than poker but will bet £50 accross two seperate bets if you wan"t to gamble:

£25 on him finishing in the top 5 (like I originally stated) with his $10k
£25 on him beating your total score with his $10k

Bets to be settled as per APAT rules based on final table chip stacks rather than waiting until November, money to be transferred via poker site we both agree on (unless both bets cancel each other out and nobody needs paying obviously).

Let me know...
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: SirPercival on July 06, 2009, 20:07:07 PM
Also, can I point out that the option of keeping my $10,000 has proven to be anything but boring.  ;D
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 06, 2009, 20:08:52 PM

Also, can I point out that the option of keeping my $10,000 has proven to be anything but boring.  ;D


Ok so the $10k in your pocket just became a little more interesting  :D
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: pokernuts07 on July 07, 2009, 12:09:08 PM

Erick Lindgren - 10%
Jason Mercier - 10%
Phil Ivey - 10%
Barry Greenstein - 10%
Jeff Lisandro - 10%
Vitaly Lunkin - 10%
Roland De Wolfe - 10%

& I"ll save the remaining 3k

Grant

All through to the 2nd day!
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: MintTrav on July 08, 2009, 13:32:06 PM
Losing interest in this discussion about Stuart"s $10k, but I"ll take one of your proposals:

Quote
£25 on him finishing in the top 5

Yes

Quote
£25 on him beating your total score

No
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 08, 2009, 19:53:46 PM

Losing interest in this discussion about Stuart"s $10k, but I"ll take one of your proposals:

Quote
£25 on him finishing in the top 5

Yes

Quote
£25 on him beating your total score

No


Leaving it until after day 1c, 1d and 2a are completed before settling on a no, hmmm, w/e i"ll happily take your £25...

Bet = Stuart to finish in Top 5 with his pocketed $10k  8)

Transfer via Full Tilt or Pokerstars good with you?
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: MintTrav on July 08, 2009, 22:48:27 PM


Losing interest in this discussion about Stuart"s $10k, but I"ll take one of your proposals:

Quote
£25 on him finishing in the top 5

Yes

Quote
£25 on him beating your total score

No


Leaving it until after day 1c, 1d and 2a are completed before settling on a no, hmmm, w/e i"ll happily take your £25...

Bet = Stuart to finish in Top 5 with his pocketed $10k  8)

Transfer via Full Tilt or Pokerstars good with you?


What? You took two days, while the tournament was running, to answer my original proposal. I didn"t suggest that was to see how the tournament was going. I declined the second part because such a bet is totally weighted against me and would be ridiculous to accept. Somehow the fun has gone out of this. Lets forget the whole idea.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: CrizzyConnor on July 09, 2009, 04:48:45 AM
Firstly my taking two days to reply didn"t change any of my factors - the $10k isn"t going to change, we are nowhere near the money and as far as i"m aware none of your picks had dropped out of the events. However in the following few days around half of your list had crashed out, call me cynical ::) I already said I don"t gamble other than poker and the odd poker bet, you were the one wanted to bet in the first place. You"re right though, the fun has gone out of it.

Stuart is still going to be in the top 5 with his $10k when the final figures come in ;)

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Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Waz1892 on July 09, 2009, 08:37:27 AM

Firstly my taking two days to reply didn"t change any of my factors - the $10k isn"t going to change, we are nowhere near the money and as far as i"m aware none of your picks had dropped out of the events. However in the following few days around half of your list had crashed out, call me cynical ::) I already said I don"t gamble other than poker and the odd poker bet, you were the one wanted to bet in the first place. You"re right though, the fun has gone out of it.

Stuart is still going to be in the top 5 with his $10k when the final figures come in ;)

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I bet he won"t be.....(sorry just couldn"t resist - I"ll get my coat)   ::)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: jbworldwide on July 09, 2009, 14:39:11 PM

Ivan Demidov 25%
Jason Mercier 20% (I can"t seem to find him, anyone know if he is bust?)
Elky 20% 200k
Hevad Kahn 10% 130k
Phil Ivey 10% 325k
Humberto Brenes 10% 44k
Gus Hansen 5%
Patrik Antonius 5%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 09, 2009, 15:05:57 PM


Ivan Demidov 25%
Jason Mercier 20% (I can"t seem to find him, anyone know if he is bust?)
Elky 20% 200k
Hevad Kahn 10% 130k
Phil Ivey 10% 325k
Humberto Brenes 10% 44k
Gus Hansen 5%
Patrik Antonius 5%



Jason Mercier Busted on Day 2a
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: pokernuts07 on July 09, 2009, 15:45:19 PM
Anyone know about Vitaly Lunkin & R De Wolfe?
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: mal666 on July 09, 2009, 19:42:39 PM

Anyone know about Vitaly Lunkin & R De Wolfe?

If they were in 2b they are both out.
If they were in 2a i aint got a scooby sry
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 09, 2009, 20:02:58 PM

Anyone know about Vitaly Lunkin & R De Wolfe?


Both still in

http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=3776.0 (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=3776.0)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Jon MW on July 09, 2009, 22:30:11 PM
My Day 3 remaining players





Phil Hellmuth Jr 10% 142,900
Erik Seidel10%55,600
Humberto Brenes10% 37,200
Thor Hansen10% 86,900
Daniel Negreanu10% MIA
Allen Cunningham10% MIA
David Chiu 10% MIA
Dan Heimiller10% MIA
Phil Ivey10% 346,200
Randy Holland 10% MIA

Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Waz1892 on July 10, 2009, 08:02:44 AM

Alan Cunningham 20%
Phil Ivey     20%
Vanessa Rousso 20%
Erik Sidel 20%
Ivan Demidov (u just never know!)  10%
Daniel Negreanu 10%




Erik Sidel 55k  -20%
Phil Ivey - 340k - 20%


anyone keeping count on how many in this thread who have still active players etc...for example, am I drawing dead!
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: mal666 on July 10, 2009, 08:40:39 AM
End of day 3 will be the best time to trim the list down.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Waz1892 on July 10, 2009, 08:44:40 AM

End of day 3 will be the best time to trim the list down.


good point well made. 1700+ still left in the running.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Waz1892 on July 10, 2009, 21:02:21 PM


Alan Cunningham 20%
Phil Ivey     20%
Vanessa Rousso 20%
Erik Sidel 20%
Ivan Demidov (u just never know!)  10%
Daniel Negreanu 10%




Erik Sidel 55k  -20%
Phil Ivey - 340k - 20%


anyone keeping count on how many in this thread who have still active players etc...for example, am I drawing dead!



Seidel Says Goodbye
First in from the button, Erik Seidel came in with a raise. The small blind folded, but Aaron Coulthard reraised from the big blind. Seidel moved all in for just less than 50,000, and Coulthard instantly called.
Showdown
Seidel:   Coulthard:   Seidel was in bad shape, and the board would give him no stay of execution. It ran down     , and that"s the end of Seidel.  qc qs  vs  ad ah -

ivey ftw!
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: jbworldwide on July 11, 2009, 09:50:22 AM
Ivan Demidov 25%
Jason Mercier 20%

Elky 20% 1.3mill
Hevad Kahn 10% 200k
Phil Ivey 10% 350k
Humberto Brenes 10% 44k
Gus Hansen 5%
Patrik Antonius 5%


still got 40% running with a chipleader amongst one of them, and my wild card (no one else has him :) is running good as well)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: lukybugur on July 11, 2009, 19:15:46 PM
Mine sit;

Ivan Demidov - 30%
Neil Channing - 30%
Andy Black - 20% - Currently on 277500
Mike Matusow - 10%
Allen Cunningham - 10%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: siberiankhatru on July 11, 2009, 19:43:06 PM

Sticking all my eggs in one basket!

Bertrand "Elky" Grospellier 100%


Looking good so far for a decent cash.  ;D
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on July 11, 2009, 19:48:06 PM
For completeness my home game player - Mark Bramley got busted day 3 with about 1,500 left.

QT (clubs) in the BB ... flop 972 clubs ... brick ... brick ... all the money in ... vs AK (clubs) ... (small pre flop raise)

17k left ... but on Oxygen ... JT push into AK ... GAME OVER.

Pretty tough beat three days in ... COLD DECK ...

L
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Honeybadg on July 11, 2009, 19:48:46 PM


Sticking all my eggs in one basket!

Bertrand "Elky" Grospellier 100%


Looking good so far for a decent cash.  ;D


A good basket ...

Good Luck.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: K3vl4rUK on July 12, 2009, 11:37:52 AM


Losing interest in this discussion about Stuart"s $10k, but I"ll take one of your proposals:

Quote
£25 on him finishing in the top 5

Yes

Quote
£25 on him beating your total score

No


Leaving it until after day 1c, 1d and 2a are completed before settling on a no, hmmm, w/e i"ll happily take your £25...

Bet = Stuart to finish in Top 5 with his pocketed $10k  8)

Transfer via Full Tilt or Pokerstars good with you?


Well this bet is over imo, I personally have 30% elky and 20 ivey n they both over 1 mil chips and plenty other people got either ivey or elky nt to mention other people that are left aswell
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Waz1892 on July 12, 2009, 12:29:30 PM
I just have Ivey @ 20%
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: mal666 on July 12, 2009, 13:12:03 PM
I just reread the OP and i dont get this bit am i missing something?
If we have already given Phil Ivey 7K/Gus 2K/Kabbaj 1K, why do we deduct 10K off the total? That means we are paying twice. Unless of course you are working on Profit in wich case the lads who kept their 10K have now got $0.
Here is an example of a Fantasy Staker Scorecard:

1)  Phil Ivey - 70%
2)  Gus Hansen - 20%
3)  John Kabbaj - 10%

If when the tournament has concluded, we find that Ivey has won $100,000 and Kabbaj has won $50,000 then your return would be 70% of $100,000 ($70,000) and 10% of $50,000 ($5,000), or $75,000 in total. You would have to deduct the $10,000 in stakes leaving you with a final Fantasy Bankroll of $65,000.
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 12, 2009, 13:23:24 PM

I just reread the OP and i dont get this bit am i missing something?
If we have already given Phil Ivey 7K/Gus 2K/Kabbaj 1K, why do we deduct 10K off the total? That means we are paying twice. Unless of course you are working on Profit in wich case the lads who kept their 10K have now got $0.
Here is an example of a Fantasy Staker Scorecard:

1)  Phil Ivey - 70%
2)  Gus Hansen - 20%
3)  John Kabbaj - 10%

If when the tournament has concluded, we find that Ivey has won $100,000 and Kabbaj has won $50,000 then your return would be 70% of $100,000 ($70,000) and 10% of $50,000 ($5,000), or $75,000 in total. You would have to deduct the $10,000 in stakes leaving you with a final Fantasy Bankroll of $65,000.



I"d already thought of that Mal.  I think you are spot on with your comment.  I"ve adjusted it accordingly on my records.

Good work sir.   ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: APAT on July 12, 2009, 18:34:49 PM
Sorry, I may have screwed that up at the beginning.  The point being, if you have spent your entire $10k at the start of the competition, you cannot then include it on top of the value of any winnings.

So hands up from me, the above scenario is wrong.

If you won $75k as in the above example then your bankroll would total $75k

Winnings= +$75k
Stake= +£0k

If you held onto your bankroll at the start, then your balance would be $10k

Winnings= +$0k
Stake= +$10k

So please disregard the original example as I"m a plank   ::)
Title: Re: Fantasy Staker - WSOP Main Event 2009
Post by: APAT on July 16, 2009, 21:09:05 PM
Earplugs at the ready, here"s the result (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=3859.0)