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Title: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: undisputed on July 21, 2009, 08:28:24 AM
PokerStars Game #30699469619:  Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2009/07/21 3:17:48 ET
Table "Anubis VII" 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: wquan1979 ($74 in chips)
Seat 2: Cardiffbiker ($96 in chips)
Seat 3: dng_ps ($400 in chips)
Seat 4: kimosan ($393.25 in chips)
Seat 5: JulyShort ($88 in chips)
Seat 6: PRchick781 ($280.10 in chips)
Seat 7: slavik ($453 in chips)
Seat 8: M0n3y0nf1r3 ($74 in chips)
Seat 9: FATDAN44 ($705.20 in chips)
FATDAN44: posts small blind $2
wquan1979: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cardiffbiker [9c 4h]
Cardiffbiker: folds
dng_ps: folds
kimosan: folds
JulyShort: folds
PRchick781: raises $8 to $12
slavik: folds
M0n3y0nf1r3: raises $62 to $74 and is all-in
FATDAN44: raises $90 to $164
wquan1979: folds
PRchick781: raises $108 to $272
FATDAN44: raises $216 to $488
PRchick781: calls $8.10 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($207.90) returned to FATDAN44
*** FLOP *** [Td 3d Ks]
*** TURN *** [Td 3d Ks] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [Td 3d Ks Qh] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FATDAN44: shows [Ah Kc] (a pair of Kings)
PRchick781: mucks hand
FATDAN44 collected $412.20 from side pot
PRchick781 leaves the table
M0n3y0nf1r3: mucks hand
FATDAN44 collected $223 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $638.20 Main pot $223. Side pot $412.20. | Rake $3
Board [Td 3d Ks Qh 5c]
Seat 1: wquan1979 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Cardiffbiker folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 3: dng_ps folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: kimosan folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 5: JulyShort folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 6: PRchick781 mucked [5s 9s]
Seat 7: slavik folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: M0n3y0nf1r3 (button) mucked [7c 7s]
Seat 9: FATDAN44 (small blind) showed [Ah Kc] and won ($635.20) with a pair of Kings
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: Marty719 on July 21, 2009, 09:22:27 AM
Y sit so short??  As mentioned before u r def missing value with ur big hands.  Even take ur 96 to 50/1 and have a full buy-in.  Standard will be worse and u can double up for the exact same amount!
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: lukybugur on July 21, 2009, 09:38:46 AM
I"m assuming he"s FATDAN44 with $705 in front of him.
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: AMRN on July 21, 2009, 09:46:56 AM
surely he"s CardiffBiker - that"s the one showing the hole cards.

Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: lukybugur on July 21, 2009, 09:51:48 AM
Ah right, yeah. The "Dan" part threw me.
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on July 21, 2009, 10:10:08 AM
Yeah me too!  :D
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: undisputed on July 21, 2009, 10:15:00 AM

PokerStars Game #30699469619:  Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2009/07/21 3:17:48 ET
Table "Anubis VII" 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: wquan1979 ($74 in chips)
Seat 2: Cardiffbiker ($96 in chips)
Seat 3: dng_ps ($400 in chips)
Seat 4: kimosan ($393.25 in chips)
Seat 5: JulyShort ($88 in chips)
Seat 6: PRchick781 ($280.10 in chips)
Seat 7: slavik ($453 in chips)
Seat 8: M0n3y0nf1r3 ($74 in chips)
Seat 9: FATDAN44 ($705.20 in chips)
FATDAN44: posts small blind $2
wquan1979: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cardiffbiker [9c 4h]
Cardiffbiker: folds
dng_ps: folds
kimosan: folds
JulyShort: folds
PRchick781: raises $8 to $12
slavik: folds
M0n3y0nf1r3: raises $62 to $74 and is all-in
FATDAN44: raises $90 to $164
wquan1979: folds
PRchick781: raises $108 to $272
FATDAN44: raises $216 to $488
PRchick781: calls $8.10 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($207.90) returned to FATDAN44
*** FLOP *** [Td 3d Ks]
*** TURN *** [Td 3d Ks] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [Td 3d Ks Qh] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FATDAN44: shows [Ah Kc] (a pair of Kings)
PRchick781: mucks hand
FATDAN44 collected $412.20 from side pot
PRchick781 leaves the table
M0n3y0nf1r3: mucks hand
FATDAN44 collected $223 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $638.20 Main pot $223. Side pot $412.20. | Rake $3
Board [Td 3d Ks Qh 5c]
Seat 1: wquan1979 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Cardiffbiker folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 3: dng_ps folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: kimosan folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 5: JulyShort folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 6: PRchick781 mucked [5s 9s]
Seat 7: slavik folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: M0n3y0nf1r3 (button) mucked [7c 7s]
Seat 9: FATDAN44 (small blind) showed [Ah Kc] and won ($635.20) with a pair of Kings


Yep. not in the hand. . . just amused at how PRchick, has put in $12 ..and wants to re raise the re-re-raiser who cant pass with 9 5 suited. . . and get $280 all in pre with it . . . >:( >:(
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: mal666 on July 21, 2009, 11:51:10 AM
Beer innit
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: Swinebag on July 21, 2009, 11:53:34 AM
Hit and runners FTW!!
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: deanp27 on July 21, 2009, 12:04:49 PM
4bet bluffing with a shorty all in lol.

what"s with the short stacking though - part of a strategy?
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: undisputed on July 21, 2009, 12:23:07 PM

4bet bluffing with a shorty all in lol.

what"s with the short stacking though - part of a strategy?


Yeh. . . sorta works, playin short you get called with garbage more often. .  .. especially if there has been a raiser. . they rarely pass
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 21, 2009, 13:00:21 PM

I"m assuming he"s FATDAN44 with $705 in front of him.


Sorry, I"m still laughing at the assumption that Mr Owston was FATDAN44.   ;D

An easy assumption to make ?
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: mal666 on July 21, 2009, 13:47:47 PM


4bet bluffing with a shorty all in lol.

what"s with the short stacking though - part of a strategy?


Yeh. . . sorta works, playin short you get called with garbage more often. .  .. especially if there has been a raiser. . they rarely pass

Exact opposite imo.
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: undisputed on July 21, 2009, 14:04:00 PM



4bet bluffing with a shorty all in lol.

what"s with the short stacking though - part of a strategy?


Yeh. . . sorta works, playin short you get called with garbage more often. .  .. especially if there has been a raiser. . they rarely pass

Exact opposite imo.

see your point...but at the mo it"s working 4 me. . . .  if it ain"t broke...why try to fix it??
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: undisputed on July 21, 2009, 14:04:39 PM


I"m assuming he"s FATDAN44 with $705 in front of him.


Sorry, I"m still laughing at the assumption that Mr Owston was FATDAN44.   ;D

An easy assumption to make ?

i love you too Leigh  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: mal666 on July 21, 2009, 14:52:23 PM




4bet bluffing with a shorty all in lol.

what"s with the short stacking though - part of a strategy?


Yeh. . . sorta works, playin short you get called with garbage more often. .  .. especially if there has been a raiser. . they rarely pass

Exact opposite imo.

see your point...but at the mo it"s working 4 me. . . .  if it ain"t broke...why try to fix it??

Not saying you should, can be quite profitable short stacking when done properly. I take it you were leaving after this hand. 25bb`s isnt an optimal SS strat.
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: undisputed on July 21, 2009, 15:07:00 PM





4bet bluffing with a shorty all in lol.

what"s with the short stacking though - part of a strategy?


Yeh. . . sorta works, playin short you get called with garbage more often. .  .. especially if there has been a raiser. . they rarely pass

Exact opposite imo.

see your point...but at the mo it"s working 4 me. . . .  if it ain"t broke...why try to fix it??

Not saying you should, can be quite profitable short stacking when done properly. I take it you were leaving after this hand. 25bb`s isnt an optimal SS strat.

Nah, wasn"t leaving. . .had not long sat down .. . . . would you say i have too much or too little here???
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: mal666 on July 21, 2009, 15:24:44 PM
Too much for shorting, should really buy-in for the min $40. If you get that up to 80-100 leave or top up to full if you think its a really good table.
Playing 10-20 bigs keeps the drawing hands out of our way. Where as if we move in to 30-40 bb region we will attract them although we havnt got a stack to play them ourselves.
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: undisputed on July 21, 2009, 15:48:52 PM

Too much for shorting, should really buy-in for the min $40. If you get that up to 80-100 leave or top up to full if you think its a really good table.
Playing 10-20 bigs keeps the drawing hands out of our way. Where as if we move in to 30-40 bb region we will attract them although we havnt got a stack to play them ourselves.


Min buy in is $80. . . .  on all tables on stars. . . .  i usually buy in for $100, used to do $80, but found that little bit extra profitable. . .  what sites let you buy in for 10 BB pls advise. .  .
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: deanp27 on July 21, 2009, 15:51:58 PM
stars upped the min buy-in because tables were littered by short stackers ruining the games
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: undisputed on July 21, 2009, 16:04:08 PM

stars upped the min buy-in because tables were littered by short stackers ruining the games
i don"t mind ruining games as long as i"m making $$$$$$$  :D :D
Title: Re: Quality play on pokerstars. . . .. .
Post by: mal666 on July 21, 2009, 17:02:28 PM


stars upped the min buy-in because tables were littered by short stackers ruining the games
i don"t mind ruining games as long as i"m making $$$$$$$  :D :D

Never realised they upped the min tbh, my bad. But now they have i think buying in for less than the max would be a mistake unless your taking 1 off shots of course.