Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Poker Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: BOINGBLITZ on August 03, 2009, 03:29:16 AM
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Playing the £50 tourney at Walsall on Sunday, the chipleader, a mouthy guy to be honest, took a dislike to a young guy who was moved 2 seats to his right.
Within the first couple of hands Mr Mouth was calling him "An Internet player", despite the young guy insisting he didnt play on the net. A clash was inevitable as the young guy could play.
Mr mouth eventually came over the top of a raise and the young guy, putting him on air, called with ad1 tc .
Mr Mouth didnt have air and tabled qd qs
The flop came down 8d 9c :3d:
turn brought the jd before the river ended it with the 7h
Mr Mouth said "Bye-Bye Son" and the youngster began to walk......until I piped up and said "He has hit the straight" which the dealer had missed, as had the rest of the table (I believe)
Mr Mouth was fuming, telling me I was out of order, despite the fact that earlier, on an 8-8-6 board, I had heard him discussing what he had passed when one player was contemplating whether to call a raise.
My question is....WAS I wrong to pipe-up when I was not in the hand ??
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The young guy was wrong to call a reraise from a local live tourney player, unless clearly priced in. They never bluff reraise. Ever.
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In a tourney, the tabled cards speak and it is everyone"s duty to assist the dealer. So, the answer is "no", you weren"t in the wrong.
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In a tourney, the tabled cards speak and it is everyone"s duty to assist the dealer. So, the answer is "no", you weren"t in the wrong.
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no
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Not in the wrong, and Mr Mouth deserves a slap for trying to claim a pot that he didn"t win. As Paulie said, the cards speak and it doesn"t matter who pipes up to point the straight out to the dealer.
Sounds like you were at a table of people who could play poker well... :D
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There were some unbeliveably bad players there.......but people kept knocking em out !!
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We had a similar episode in another thread. I think the conclusion was
tourneys: pipe up, cards speak, well done brian!
cash game: keep shtum!
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You were spot on Brian,
also good to see these mouthy players being taken down a peg or too ;)
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LOLOL......Some of em really BABEL on Scouse !!
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Clearly you were right Brian but it is frustrating when it occurs. It happened to me recently when I had got it in with a high pair and thought I had won until a spectator pointed out a random straight that the other guy had hit, which no-one at the table had seen, and which meant I was out. Although you know he is right, you feel like braining the pointer-outer.
also good to see these mouthy players being taken down a peg or too ;)
There is a difference between mouthy arrogant and mouthy exuberant.
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lol....u r a top guy John.....u know it"s right really !
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Exact same thing happened in the APAT game at Edinburgh. You are perfectly right to pipe up - the cards speak for themselves.
Some people say that this only applies in Tourneys, but not in cash - I disagree...... IMO in poker, the cards speak, and if ni a showdown situation, the best hand wins.
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Never in a million years would I point out a mistake in a cash game - you never know who might be waiting for you when you leave....
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Never in a million years would I point out a mistake in a cash game - you never know who might be waiting for you when you leave....
I don"t understand this attitude. If someone was dealt three cards and you saw it - would you say? If someone was missed out in a deal and only given one card, would you say? If the button wasn"t moved, would you say?
If the cards are turned over and I"m in a hand and I"ve lost but the chips are being pushed to me - I"ll bloody well pipe up and say that I don"t have the winning hand.
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i have seen episodes like this, someone has a straight and doesnt realise it. gets up and leaves, etc. one table i was railing the people said "if hes to dumb to miss his straight then dont tell him anyway". but someone called him back which was fair enough imo.
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i keep thinking that cards is a ladys @ gentelmens shall i say passtime with a nice few pounds at the end of the day cards speak for them selfs even in cash i alwasy say honesty is the best policy even if a member of the public speaks up if you dont like it dont gamble yes u wr rite 2 speak up so would i AND THEN ID screw my plastic foot of and put it in his mouth so hed have foot in mouth disease
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i keep thinking that cards is a ladys @ gentelmens shall i say passtime
What gave you that idea?
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ARMN told me 2 say this
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ARMN told me 2 say this
must have missed that bit...
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ARMN told me 2 say this
must have missed that bit...
Nah on the nail that one
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lol thats how s h ite the mouth was didnt even no he lost well done bri point him out next time so i can smash him with my 6s :3h: woop woop
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Will do Matt....no doubt he wont forget me !!
The fact was the idiot had around 60,000 chips when the blinds were 100/200....yet STILL found a way to lose em !!
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If both hands have been tabled then you should definitely speak up whether it"s a tourney or cash game. If however the mouthy guy had turned over his QQ, and you happen to see that he has the straight but is about to muck then you should keep quiet.
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before pointing it out the second his cards have hit the muck ?