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Poker Forum => World Championship of Amateur Poker (WCOAP) => Live Archive => Live Poker => WCOAP 2008 - 2012 => Topic started by: APAT on August 12, 2009, 23:58:06 PM
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CORRECTED - THE MAIN EVENT WILL NOW START AT 4.30PM AS ORIGINALLY ADVERTISED ON BOTH DAY 1A AND DAY 1B.
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DTD have been able to get us a slightly earlier start time for the main event of 3.00pm on day 1a and day 1b, versus the previously advertised start time of 4.30pm. This will enable us to finish play earlier / go deeper as appropriate at the end of both evenings. If anyone has a serious issue with this change, can you please shout now.
All other start times are as advertised and the player briefing will be completed and published this weekend.
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perfect
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Will the Omaha still be starting at 4:30pm? Travelling down from Glasgow on the Thursday for the Omaha but 3pm is perfect for main event, an hour less to kill during the day!
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DTD have been able to get us a slightly earlier start time for the main event of 3.00pm on day 1a and day 1b, versus the previously advertised start time of 4.30pm. This will enable us to finish play earlier / go deeper as appropriate at the end of both evenings. If anyone has a serious issue with this change, can you please shout now.
All other start times are as advertised and the player briefing will be completed and published this weekend.
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DTD have been able to get us a slightly earlier start time for the main event of 3.00pm on day 1a and day 1b, versus the previously advertised start time of 4.30pm. This will enable us to finish play earlier / go deeper as appropriate at the end of both evenings. If anyone has a serious issue with this change, can you please shout now.
All other start times are as advertised and the player briefing will be completed and published this weekend.
Sneaky edit ftw... :D
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DTD have been able to get us a slightly earlier start time for the main event of 3.00pm on day 1a and day 1b, versus the previously advertised start time of 4.30pm. This will enable us to finish play earlier / go deeper as appropriate at the end of both evenings. If anyone has a serious issue with this change, can you please shout now.
All other start times are as advertised and the player briefing will be completed and published this weekend.
That"s you politely told to read the previous post ;D ;D ;D ;D
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lol....
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...the player briefing will be completed and published this weekend.
This coming weekend ?
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...the player briefing will be completed and published this weekend.
This coming weekend ?
Yes, in a "second coming of the lord" sort of way.
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...the player briefing will be completed and published this weekend.
This coming weekend ?
Yes, in a "second coming of the lord" sort of way.
Christ, I hope so....
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perfect
....for some,4.30pm was perfect,hence the reason i chose Friday as my start day.
So SHOUT
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I"m not suggesting that this change won"t be a pain to some people, but it is useful to put it into some context.
If you were to still turn up at 4:30, then you would miss the first two levels. You will have roughly lost about 600 chips through the blinds putting you on 9400, and average chipstack will be about 10,400.
Obviously, you will have missed out on a couple of levels of information and play at the table, but you would not be at any significant disadvantage chipwise.
If you were planning on turning up two levels in anyway (at 6pm), then I guess this does kind of ruin your plans.
Again, just my opinions, and players are completely entitled to shout if it"s a problem.
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So SHOUT
Your shout ?
Cheers, I will have a Redbull, Harmony would like Half a lager and quite sure one or two members of the forum would appreciate a drink too.
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I"m not suggesting that this change won"t be a pain to some people, but it is useful to put it into some context.
If you were to still turn up at 4:30, then you would miss the first two levels. You will have roughly lost about 600 chips through the blinds putting you on 9400, and average chipstack will be about 10,400.
Obviously, you will have missed out on a couple of levels of information and play at the table, but you would not be at any significant disadvantage chipwise.
If you were planning on turning up two levels in anyway (at 6pm), then I guess this does kind of ruin your plans.
Again, just my opinions, and players are completely entitled to shout if it"s a problem.
not withstanding, missing the first two levels also denies the opportunity to play cheap pots to grab early chips.. (oh, sorry forgot - this is Ant we"re talking about... no early play anyway unless it"s AA or KK :D )
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I hear what your saying Leigh,but my own personal reasons have nothing to do with
missing a level or two of poker,more work and family orientated.Des said shout, so i have.
Sounds like it has already been decided.....so my shout will go un-heard.
Bainn,a redbull and half a lager no trouble at all,my friend.
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hey Ant. If im on your table, and you are not there. When they raise your BB, i promise to repop them. It will put a stop to them stealing while you are absent......lol
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I hear what your saying Leigh,but my own personal reasons have nothing to do with
missing a level or two of poker,more work and family orientated.Des said shout, so i have.
Sounds like it has already been decided.....so my shout will go un-heard.
Bainn,a redbull and half a lager no trouble at all,my friend.
Far from it Ant, I guess if enough people shouted against it, then it would have to be looked at.
It is a work day for most people, or at least an early leave for a weekend away from family playing poker.
I actually agree with what you are saying, just trying to look on the positive side if it does stay at an earlier start.
How many times do you reckon you"d get aces or kings in the first few levels anyway ? ;)
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hey Ant. If im on your table, and you are not there. When they raise your BB, i promise to repop them. It will put a stop to them stealing while you are absent......lol
What can i say Will,that far and away excedes any APAT ethos i have ever come across.Thank you ::)
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How many times do you reckon you"d get aces or kings in the first few levels anyway ? ;)
Never! that"s why i"m still in after level 2. ;)
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Bainn,a redbull and half a lager no trouble at all,my friend.
Most kind of you Squire.
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I,m happy with any start time on Friday, as booked the day off! But can we make it later on Sunday ( if I get there) for reasons stated earlier. Thats just my "shout" But will happily go with the majority, after all this is a democracy. ;)
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..after all this is a democracy. ;)
[/Chuckle]....not really...they asked for opinions not a decision!
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I have a serious issue with the proposed new start time, having already made arrangements for a 1615 hrs arrival time at DTD.
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I see the banner advertising the ME has changed to 3PM. Can we take that as a definitive answer?
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I have a serious issue with the proposed new start time, having already made arrangements for a 1615 hrs arrival time at DTD.
Serious as in Jeremy Paxman serious or more like John McEnroe serious ? ?
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DTD would certainly like it to be 3pm, but this thread is here to canvas opinion at the moment. We"ll make a final call at the start of next week.
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DTD would certainly like it to be 3pm, but this thread is here to canvas opinion at the moment. We"ll make a final call at the start of next week, after the player briefing has been published this weekend.
FYP
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I might struggle to get there for a 3pm start but if it has to be then it has to be. I"ll just have to work super fast and drive super quick to get there as early as I can
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I"m easy either way - have the day booked off and would prefer the earlier start, but not particularly fussed.
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Would also prefer the earlier start , travelling down on the thursday so i am not bothered either way .
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It"s certainly not ideal when a lot of hotels, like the one I"m at, have a checking in time of 3pm.
When it was booked an hour and a half was plenty of leeway to get there in time for the start - and wasn"t the reason to have the early registration so that people could make their plans?
Was there much point in letting people have so much time - then changing the details at the last minute?
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Im pretty easy but def like the idea of the earlier start!! Nothin worse than w8n around. Early start = less pints b4...earlier start also = earlier finish which thus = more pints after.
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Earlier start is better for me, but not fussed either way.
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I"d prefer earlier given the choice. But whatever is easier for majority
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I"d prefer earlier given the choice. But whatever is easier for majority
It won"t matter either way for the majority - it"s just a question of how much of a minority it does affect
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It"s certainly not ideal when a lot of hotels, like the one I"m at, have a checking in time of 3pm.
When it was booked an hour and a half was plenty of leeway to get there in time for the start - and wasn"t the reason to have the early registration so that people could make their plans?
An excellent point Jon and, whilst not a deal breaker for me, is one worthy of emphasis.
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It"s certainly not ideal when a lot of hotels, like the one I"m at, have a checking in time of 3pm.
When it was booked an hour and a half was plenty of leeway to get there in time for the start - and wasn"t the reason to have the early registration so that people could make their plans?
Was there much point in letting people have so much time - then changing the details at the last minute?
Doesn"t bother me at all personally - in fact, I"d prefer the early start.
BUT, that"s not important. Jon has a very valid point, and people who are travelling from a distance and have planned their travel arrangements to tie-in with the start time might be penalised by any change. However, the start isn"t changing that radically, and people should already have included some slippage into their plans in case they are held up with their flights/car journeys, etc. Of course, if you arrive late, you aren"t penalised other than being blinded away slowly.
It"s not ideal - and it"s a shame the earlier start wasn"t sorted and announced earlier.
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It"s not ideal - and it"s a shame the earlier start wasn"t sorted and announced proposed earlier.
^^^This^^^^
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I might struggle to get there for a 3pm start but if it has to be then it has to be. I"ll just have to work super fast and drive super quick to get there as early as I can
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You can hire either a Vanquish or Moderna 360.
Hope this helps.
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It"s certainly not ideal when a lot of hotels, like the one I"m at, have a checking in time of 3pm.
When it was booked an hour and a half was plenty of leeway to get there in time for the start - and wasn"t the reason to have the early registration so that people could make their plans?
Was there much point in letting people have so much time - then changing the details at the last minute?
Doesn"t bother me at all personally - in fact, I"d prefer the early start.
BUT, that"s not important. Jon has a very valid point, and people who are travelling from a distance and have planned their travel arrangements to tie-in with the start time might be penalised by any change. However, the start isn"t changing that radically, and people should already have included some slippage into their plans in case they are held up with their flights/car journeys, etc. Of course, if you arrive late, you aren"t penalised other than being blinded away slowly.
It"s not ideal - and it"s a shame the earlier start wasn"t sorted and announced earlier.
Not worth reiterating too much, but just to highlight:
"... However, the start isn"t changing that radically, and people should already have included some slippage into their plans ..."
An hour and a half is a significant amount of time to allow for "slippage".
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As I said 3pm is a significant time as a number of hotels use that as their checking in time.
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As I said 3pm is a significant time as a number of hotels use that as their checking in time.
Most hotels we"ve stayed out during our poker travels have allowed us to check in up until Midnight and in some cases a lot later.
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As I said 3pm is a significant time as a number of hotels use that as their checking in time.
Most hotels we"ve stayed out during our poker travels have allowed us to check in up until Midnight and in some cases a lot later.
obv it"s still do able if the start time gets changed to 3 - but
a. you won"t necessarily finish at APAT and get from one side of Nottingham to the other by midnight
b. it"s far from ideal to lug around a long weekends worth of luggage from Nottingham city centre to DTD and back again
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As I said 3pm is a significant time as a number of hotels use that as their checking in time.
Most hotels we"ve stayed out during our poker travels have allowed us to check in up until Midnight and in some cases a lot later.
obv it"s still do able if the start time gets changed to 3 - but
a. you won"t necessarily finish at APAT and get from one side of Nottingham to the other by midnight
b. it"s far from ideal to lug around a long weekends worth of luggage from Nottingham city centre to DTD and back again
Even if you are not allowed to go to your room before 3pm, most reputable hotels will check you in and keep your luggage until you do return for your key, whatever time that may be.
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I don"t think the details are important.
The short version is:
... it"s still do able
... it"s far from ideal ...
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make it a week earlier plz and then i"ll play
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With our player"s hat on, we"ve requested that DTD return to the originally advertised start times for day 1a and 1b. I can now confirm that both will start at 4.30pm. I will update the other comms later tonight / tomorrow. Thanks for your feedback on this thread. I think it is a much more reasonable scenario to potentially be two hours early rather than late.
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With our player"s hat on, we"ve requested that DTD return to the originally advertised start times for day 1a and 1b. I can now confirm that both will start at 4.30pm. I will update the other comms later tonight / tomorrow. Thanks for your feedback on this thread. I think it is a much more reasonable scenario to potentially be two hours early rather than late.
Prepares the onslaught of "GAAHH ! ! ! I"ve just rearranged for a 3pm start ! Now I will have to re-rearrange everything ! ! CHEERS !" posts.
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Hope i"m not late...... ::)
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Hope i"m not late...... ::)
If you turn up by 2pm you should be fine....
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Later start on sunday?
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If I"ve counted correctly in this thread then it would seem that three people have a problem with the earlier start, one person would prefer an early start but doesn"t mind, there"s a couple of people who are indifferent but eight people have expressed that they would prefer the earlier start and DTD would prefer the earlier start.
Surely leaving it a few more days to get more of a consensus among players before making the decision would be better?
I"m sure the majority of people would prefer the earlier start, as has been stated already - people should have allowed for a little bit of leeway in their travel plans anyway and most hotels will let you check in and keep your bags until you return later even if they don"t have a room ready for you. If people have to set off an hour or so earlier than they planned then they can get to bed an hour earlier the night before.
It will allow more levels to be played on each day and more time at DTD which can only be a good thing. I"m sure most people who aren"t from the nearby area have planned to spend the whole weekend at DTD anyway and if they have a serious problem with the 3pm start they can maybe swap their seat to the Saturday on the seat exchange board. I think at the very least, more time should be given to enable more people to speak up before a definitive answer is given. It looks like it"s only a vocal minority who have expressed a problem with an earlier start time. If more people speak out against it then fair enough but three or four people from the amount of people who are participating shouldn"t be a big enough margin to not change to a time that more people, including the venue, seem keen on.
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On the contrary, the start time was decided several months ago and DTD tried to change it very recently. The number of members who expressed concern at the change from the small sample here, is easily enough to warrant our running the event as originally advertised.
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so does that mean day 1 will be running to 3.am in stead of the usual 1.am....
or will you be bringing more people back for day 2?
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so does that mean day 1 will be running to 3.am in stead of the usual 1.am....
or will you be bringing more people back for day 2?
It is likely to play until c. 3am as it is starting 2 hours later than a normal APAT event.
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Hhhmmm, after due thought I will revise my previous statement and say as long as you are at DTD by 2.30pm you should be fine.
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I"m a bit late into this thread, but for what it"s worth I"d prefer the earlier start, but only really so we don"t go on for ever in the evening (if I last that long!). I don"t mind really.
See you there!
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It is confirmed as a 4.30pm start on day 1a and 1b now.
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What time does it start?
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Quarter past.
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Quarter past.
Quarter past what?
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Quarter past.
Quarter past what?
Don"t forget am or pm. We gets confused ya know.
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Quarter Past "Soon", ldo.
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Quarter past.
Quarter past what?
Don"t forget am or pm. We gets confused ya know.
Quarter past pm FTW. ;)
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It"s going to be a long thread
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GMT or DST ? ? ?
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HI ALL ,
I FOR ONE AM GLAD THAT THE START TIME FOR THE MAIN EVENT HAS GONE BACK TO 4.30 PM (DAY 1B),I HAD ALREADY BOOKED A ROOM FOR THE HILTON BUT LEFT BOOKING MY TRANSPORT (TRAIN) TO A LATER DATE, THIS MORNING 20/8/09 AND IT WILL ARRIVE AT NOT/HAM AT 2.00 PM ON THE SAT.
OK SOME OF YOU WILL BE SAYING THAT GIVES YOU AN HOUR TO GET BOOKED IN THEN TO DTD. ON THE 3/8/09 I SENT AN E-MAIL TO CUTOMER@APAT.COM ASKING FOR CONFORMATION BEFORE I DO ANY BOOKINGS THAT THE START TIME WAS 4.30 PM. I HAVE NOT YET HAD A RESPONSE TO MY E-MAIL.
I CAME INTO THIS FORUM, HAPPY(ALL BOOKED AND READY TO GO) AND READY TO READ THE BANTER BETWEEN MEMBERS WHO WILL BE GATHERING AT DTD. THEN I READ THAT IT HAD CHANGED TO 3.00 PM , YOU MAY OF HEARD MY JAW HIT THE FLOOR IF YOU LIVE NEAR. BY THE TIME I GOT HALF WAY THROUGH THE POSTS AND READ IT WAS BACK TO 4.30 PM I CLICKED MY JAW BACK AND SMILED AGIAN .
SO I AM ONE MEMBER WHO IS GLAD IT HAS GONE BACK TO 4.30 PM START . I THINK THERE WILL BE A FEW MEMBERS IN THE SAME SITUATION, WHO HAVE ALREADY BOOKED FOR A 4.30 PM START TRAVELING FROM AFAR . SOME OF THE GOOD POINTS OF THE LATER START IS, THE COST OF NOT PAYING AN EXTRA DAY B&B OR LEAVING THE HOUSE BEFORE 5.00 AM IN THE MORNING TO TRAVEL 331 MILES.
KOSH 74
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Caps Lock ftw
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Leaving home an entire day before it starts and bunking at Ger"s can be a big help too. :D
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Leaving home an entire day before it starts and bunking at Ger"s can be a big help too. :D
Not for the liver.
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I arrive back from Ibiza at about 12 on the Friday night, so the later the start time the better!
Not sure if I am going to be in a fit state to play but we will see what happens!
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Not sure if I am going to be in a fit state to play but we will see what happens!
Hmm there might be a couple in the same boat ;D (and it will feck all to do with travel arrangements)
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any ideas of a possible finishing time for the Friday?
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any ideas of a possible finishing time for the Friday?
About 3am I reckon for those that make it that far.
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thanks - I"ll try ;)
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thanks - I"ll try ;)
Loads of cash games running through until 5am, so no rush to leave. ;)
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Not sure if I am going to be in a fit state to play but we will see what happens!
Hmm there might be a couple in the same boat ;D (and it will feck all to do with travel arrangements)
yea more than likley more to do with the freedom of being away from home,the kids ,the wife,lol
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Have to have a wife for that one to make the list. :)
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rue lol ,meant ,wife ,hubby,partner in act just because were away
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rue lol ,meant ,wife ,hubby,partner in act just because were away
Is English your second language my friend.
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rue lol ,meant ,wife ,hubby,partner in act just because were away
I don"t have any of the above. Must think of a good excuse before Thursday!
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rue lol ,meant ,wife ,hubby,partner in act just because were away
Is English your second language my friend.
no just a dodgy keyboard lol
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rue lol ,meant ,wife ,hubby,partner in act just because were away
Is English your second language my friend.
no just a dodgy keyboard lol
Good, thought you may have been a ruddy Garlic muncher.
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no a just a good haggis muncher lol
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no a just a godd haggis muncher lol
You lot stole the recipe for Haggis from the English ! !
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no a just a godd haggis muncher lol
You lot stole the recipe for Haggis from the English ! !
did not
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no a just a godd haggis muncher lol
You lot stole the recipe for Haggis from the English ! !
did not
You thieving b******* did ! ! !
SEE (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/117834/Scots-hijacked-haggis-)
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lol ,so i see we did ok ,then u can have it back
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lol ,so i see we did ok ,then u can have it back
Refreshing to see that at least one of you lot from North of the wall has some honour and admits it.
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Any idea of an estimated finish time for the PLO? About 2am?
Just to confirm this starts at 5pm, do we need to be there at least 1/2 hr before?
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Any idea of an estimated finish time for the PLO? About 2am?
Just to confirm this starts at 5pm, do we need to be there at least 1/2 hr before?
Sounds about right...don"t forget there might be a queue to sign up to DTD membership so I might make it 1 hour before.
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You don"t need to be there before the start of course, but it"s obviously to your advantage to do so.
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You don"t need to be there before the start of course, but it"s obviously to your advantage to do so.
probably not to my advantage if I want to post an ante this time