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Poker Forum => Strategy => Topic started by: LongshanksED on September 17, 2009, 10:39:18 AM

Title: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: LongshanksED on September 17, 2009, 10:39:18 AM
Title: Re: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: jbworldwide on September 17, 2009, 10:51:12 AM
are you trying to win?

taking a cheap flop with that hand on the bubble isn"t bad esp. when you know you are going to get a call. (if you were not certain of a call then pot is correct).

when he hits his set he isn"t going anywhere

when you boat up you have to feel you are fav here because of his play, then he shows quads, oh well nh.

don"t think you did anything wrong here.
Title: Re: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: AMRN on September 17, 2009, 11:13:32 AM
the hand has played itself - neither of you are getting away from it, and he has lucked out with his 1-outer. That"s poker.

I would have made a pot-raise preflop though - knowing you can"t push him off a hand preflop is irrelevant... you have a really strong hand, and given that he is likely to call you with any rags, a raise is even more important. Pot preflop, and c-bet pot blind on the flop.

Title: Re: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on September 17, 2009, 13:48:25 PM

the hand has played itself - neither of you are getting away from it, and he has lucked out with his 1-outer. That"s poker.

I would have made a pot-raise preflop though - knowing you can"t push him off a hand preflop is irrelevant... you have a really strong hand, and given that he is likely to call you with any rags, a raise is even more important. Pot preflop, and c-bet pot blind on the flop.




What Steve said  ;)
Title: Re: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: deanp27 on September 17, 2009, 14:23:37 PM
raise preflop

i think this is more of a bad beat story than a strategy thread though
Title: Re: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: LongshanksED on September 17, 2009, 15:31:19 PM
It"s bit a bad beat story

I was just wondering if I played this badly on the bubble. Especially knowing that a short stack has folded and will be in the bb in 1 hands time is it right to make a play against a guy that is incapable of folding a hand pre flop. And especially the swings that can occour in Omaha
Title: Re: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: AMRN on September 17, 2009, 15:45:05 PM
depends what you"re playing for.... to limp into the money, or to go deep.  

If this was Holdem, and you were on the bubble, and you had a guy who would be all in on his next BB, would you fold AA/KK in an unopened pot just to make sure you scrape into the cash?  Same scenario. 

You shoudn"t worry about being the bubble boy if you have a good hand a good chance to make a big increase to your stack this late in a tourney.
Title: Re: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: deanp27 on September 17, 2009, 18:31:20 PM
the bubble is for the other players to worry about
Title: Re: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: Swinebag on September 17, 2009, 20:55:02 PM

raise preflop

i think this is more of a bad beat story than a strategy thread though


this
Title: Re: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: Marty719 on September 18, 2009, 14:24:05 PM
Def a bad beat thread but Il add my own 2 cents neway.  I dnt think u shud raise this hand p/f 100% of the time, I split between limping and raising.  PLO is such a position based game that playing too high a % of swollen pots oop is a huge leak.  Rades shud never b limp/folding when he has position on you in this spot.  In low stakes plo, if u think u r a fave over the table then Im fine with taking a flop and getting ur opponents to put their money in bad!

As played, I also dnt like ur river bet.  What is the reasoning for not shipping w/ that stack - they r not folding nething for 2200 that they r calling for 1200!  Def not getting max value w/ tht bet in the long term!
Title: Re: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: LongshanksED on September 18, 2009, 16:12:53 PM
Thanks for advice marty

the reason for the river bet was I had a feeling he"d call. I thought about checking and calling his pot bet but thought if u put in a small bet he"d raise with his lower set or maybe pocket aces.

As I said before, I didn"t like raising the villan as I doubt I"d scare him off and when I hit top set on a rag board I was almost certain of getting all his Chips. Problem is he hit his one out. I never put him on pocket 6s with 2 6 on the board at best ak in his hand or maybe a6
Title: Re: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: deanp27 on September 18, 2009, 16:47:27 PM
if he"s gonna call then you should jam/pot the river not value bet and certainly don"t check
Title: Re: Omaha bubble - should i have played any different
Post by: George2Loose on September 22, 2009, 18:03:59 PM
Pot it pre

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