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Poker Forum => Online Archive => Online Poker => General Online Poker Discussion => Topic started by: antthecat on October 07, 2009, 23:02:37 PM
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i always keep saying that i dont like online poker but i thought i would give betfred a try as a friend keeps raving on about it, only deposited a tenner to see what happens, sit at 5 c/10c 6 handed and see what happens, for a while i think im missing out as it seems like im cleaning up this table, i roll up $10 to $16 without really concentrating and as i unclick the auto post button im on the button, the utg raises to 30c, the cutoff raises to $1, i had :as: ah so i happily raise to $3, blinds fold, utg folds and the cutoff ships it for $18(he got lucky against another player with a weak holding pre) so what do u think i did?
1) snap call and sip my brew(earl grey tea)
2) sip on my brew, watch calvin harris"s vid on youtube for a bit(good looking women are more interesting and a great song imo lol) then call
3) fold as im so unlucky online he would suck out and carry on sipping my brew
i did the obvious thing and snap call, he had j10 off, the flop th ts ks, turn and river does not bring an ace and i spit my tea all over my laptop, put the apat web address in the address bar(after watching video on youtube first) and started typing this rant.
i feel that as i clicked the auto post button they give me a hand that will lose all my money and an idiot to stack off with j10 off, my life is so cursed when i play online. it does not bother me when i lose like that in a live game but it seems like online is cursed for me, am i the only one or is there anyone else in my boat.
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It"s just you.
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Make a note that this player will stack off with J10 pre and look to play him everytime you sit down.
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Make a note that this player will stack off with J10 pre and look to play him everytime you sit down.
this
It"s just you.
and this ;D
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standard, obv never happens live though
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standard, obv never happens live though
LOL, yeah it does!!! :D What do they say more hands more suck outs. ;)
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Oh it happens live......sick, sick beat at a house game the other night......
One player holds kh tc
The other holds ac qh
Only 5 players playing and I think 3 left at this point. All chips go in pre-flop.
Flop is kd kc td
Turn is ad1 the other player who folded announced he folded an Ace pre flop.
River is ah
:o
All very "on-line ish" !
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ive got 23? ive printed them off.... examples of when i have been 3/1 .... 4/1 fav and lost online over last 2 months sic i outers etc .. i can post them too u if u like ;D
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;D
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Is now a good time to mention once again, the very long...
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...PAUSE........
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...................................................Before the Killer river suckout?....................................................
Yoou"d think a program would know the location of every card in the deck, without having to search through the whole deck, even one at a time, it wouldn"t take me that long to locate the said card.
By the way, do you ever see such a long pause before the river card during a normal run of the mill hand?
There you go Ant, more Ammo for you to fire :D
P.S. Hope your luck changes, try getting it all in whilst behind and you too may suck out once in a while.
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I think online poker is great. Lots of opportunities to stack off players. Had a typical example last night on Betfred with a hand which was raised and reraised before it came to me. The reraiser obviously had something strong but I had a pretty good read on him and reckoned that if I shoved he would struggle unless he had AK, QQ or better. I had him down as the type that would drink Earl Grey tea while playing poker and probably types website addresses every time instead of saving them in his favourites or creating a shortcut on his desktop. His reraise could have been made light or even a misclick cos I could tell that he wasn"t really concentrating on the game - probably wan king over some pop video on YouTube while playing. If he did call, I would be behind but I still had a number of ways of winning, plus there would be dead money in the pot. I might have taken the pot down there and then but Earl Grey boy happened to have picked up a monster. As the hand played out I hit trips on the flop. I could just imagine him spluttering his tea over his laptop like he was the first player ever to be outdrawn. Could tell he was playing above his level cos he didn"t reload but just went off to slit his wrists after one badbeat. Or else he went back to watching YouTube without the distraction of playing poker, the dirty bugger.
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FUNNY U SHUD SAY THAT SOMETIMES THERE IS A LONG PAUSE ON RIVER THEN BOSH THE ONLY CARD U DONT WANT TO SEE ,,, THOUGHT IT WAS ME HOW VERY X FILES ....MMMMMMMMMMMMM ONLINE IS ****E OFFICIAL
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I think online poker is great. Lots of opportunities to stack off players. Had a typical example last night on Betfred with a hand which was raised and reraised before it came to me. The reraiser obviously had something strong but I had a pretty good read on him and reckoned that if I shoved he would struggle unless he had AK, QQ or better. I had him down as the type that would drink Earl Grey tea while playing poker and probably types website addresses every time instead of saving them in his favourites or creating a shortcut on his desktop. His reraise could have been made light or even a misclick cos I could tell that he wasn"t really concentrating on the game - probably wan king over some pop video on YouTube while playing. If he did call, I would be behind but I still had a number of ways of winning, plus there would be dead money in the pot. I might have taken the pot down there and then but Earl Grey boy happened to have picked up a monster. As the hand played out I hit trips on the flop. I could just imagine him spluttering his tea over his laptop like he was the first player ever to be outdrawn. Could tell he was playing above his level cos he didn"t reload but just went off to slit his wrists after one badbeat. Or else he went back to watching YouTube without the distraction of playing poker, the dirty bugger.
PLEASE START UR OWN BLOG VERY FUNNY AND DRY LMAO
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Agreed. With the spare time you have, I would expect an average of 3 or 4 highly witty posts per day. :)
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For every 4/1 shot that you lose, I"m sure you win 4 others - but nobody bothers to post them on here.... and probably doesn"t even remember them.
Understand that 4/1 means that you are likely to LOSE 1 in 5 times.
AA is not nailed on to beat JT - it will LOSE on average once in every 5 showdowns.
I"m sure that the original poster was happy when the cards were flipped over and he had AA vs JT - therefore he made a good play and got unlucky when it turned out that this was the one in five when AA would lose.
c"est la vie - reload, make a note on the player, move on, and make sure to play against him lots more.
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thankyou mr condesending man
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minttrav that was brilliant, made me see it from the other side, im not writing it as a bad beat(they happen quite a lot live or online) but i know that there is a lot more variance in online as you get to see more hands per hour and maybe that is the reason im no good online at the moment, just need more practise and understand that online is a different game to live and i need to adjust.
also why is it that the river card is usually dealt after a ten second pause when you are all in, it can be annoying(especially as it is the killer one out card).
i know i was having a shoot and not playing within "bankroll managment" but i thought 5/10c would be a good starting ground to see what to expect
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I know that there is a lot more variance in online as you get to see more hands per hour
No it is the opposite DUCY?
Anyway that has never happened to me, must suck.
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if you think this is bad you need to play more tables
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My luck is that bad at online poker, I dont even have a bad beat sob story for you !!!!!
:"( :"( :"(
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what about Mike Matasow, he has a real reason to be annyoed with online poker. he has never been fully refunded for when he was playing against the super users on U.B.
He actually said to his mum at the time before the scandal became noticed. "its like they can see my hole cards"
He reckons they ripped him about 1.2 million dollars.
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Ant, text me when your next playing online!!!!!!! ;)
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only played 5 times this week
10 10 hit set on flop lost
kk v aa lost
kk v aa lost
ak v 10 10 lost qq v a4 lost apat league
aa v kk ...at last this hand makes me chip leader 719 enties 56 left oh er lost
all about 2/3 hours into comp withave stack but chance to go top ten
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr thats better
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only played 5 times this week
10 10 hit set on flop lost
kk v aa lost
kk v aa lost
ak v 10 10 lost qq v a4 lost apat league
aa v kk ...at last this hand makes me chip leader 719 enties 56 left oh er lost
all about 2/3 hours into comp withave stack but chance to go top ten
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr thats better
tony, I feel for you cos you just never ever run good do you (much)?
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only played 5 times this week
10 10 hit set on flop lost
kk v aa lost
kk v aa lost
ak v 10 10 lost qq v a4 lost apat league
aa v kk ...at last this hand makes me chip leader 719 enties 56 left oh er lost
all about 2/3 hours into comp withave stack but chance to go top ten
LOL ;D
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr thats better
tony, I feel for you cos you just never ever run good do you (much)?
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I can honestly say that i have never seen anyone run as good as tony does in the Talbot. in contrast watch me tonight, but maybe i think im due a bit of luck.
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I can honestly say that i have never seen anyone run as good as tony does in the Talbot. in contrast watch me tonight, but maybe i think im due a bit of luck.
Marcel!!
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Just make sure you bring your bad luck with you when we play our 50,000 chip deepstack on the 29/11.
Even you should last more than your usual 2 hour sitting with the blinds at 25/50 ;) ;D
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Ant, text me when your next playing online!!!!!!! ;)
Me too! I"ll give you a full list of all my online aliases if you fancy a game ;D. In all seriousness, if you want to increase your profitably, worry less about executing big bluffs, play more solid,boring positional poker and you may be surprised to find you have less hands to complain about.
As for playing live versus online, some of us haven"t got a choice, the computer is the only option. How many live venues within 50 miles run regular deepstack tournies? Exactly, a big fat zero. I"m even being forced on a 4.5 hour trip somewhere oop north in a couple of weeks just for a bit of real poker action.
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will txt u both. the reason i dont enjoy playing online is that i find it boring and have the attention span of a goldfish. when im playing live there is a usually a conversation about some general bullcrap and i find it stimulates my brain(if there is no conversation then i usually start one unless someone is in the thinktank then silence is golden) but online it feels like a computer game, i have had gta4 for about a year and only completed 4% of it, point example. i find it hard to describe what it is but i cant concentrate half as much when staring at a computer screen, maybe create a game where i could predict the age of the player or guess which room they are playing on their computer/laptop, that makes sense to me. i play poker subconciously as in i can talk while tanking about a decision unlike most.
btw, i only bluff when its correct to according to sklanksy theory of poker.
norwich poker club do some reasonably deep tourneys for quite good buyins simon, only 5-10 mins from yours surely and the cash game is ssssoooooooo juicy, worth a look. shame i have moved in with the girlfriend (bugger)
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will txt u both. the reason i dont enjoy playing online is that i find it boring and have the attention span of a goldfish. when im playing live there is a usually a conversation about some general bullcrap and i find it stimulates my brain(if there is no conversation then i usually start one unless someone is in the thinktank then silence is golden) but online it feels like a computer game, i have had gta4 for about a year and only completed 4% of it, point example. i find it hard to describe what it is but i cant concentrate half as much when staring at a computer screen, maybe create a game where i could predict the age of the player or guess which room they are playing on their computer/laptop, that makes sense to me. i play poker subconciously as in i can talk while tanking about a decision unlike most.
btw, i only bluff when its correct to according to sklanksy theory of poker.
norwich poker club do some reasonably deep tourneys for quite good buyins simon, only 5-10 mins from yours surely and the cash game is ssssoooooooo juicy, worth a look. shame i have moved in with the girlfriend (bugger)
What"s the freezeout blind structure at the Magdalen Street den?
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Ant, I"ve a few things things to clarify from our previous posts on this subject.
1) Going back to your first post, s**t happens, you"ll just have to get used to it. Content yourself with the knowledge that if that same situation comes up again, you"ll be a winner in the long run.
2) As for my comment about bluffing, it doesn"t really relate to this post, but was intended as a genuine attempt to give a bit of useful advice. Think back to those sparsely populated,but competitive, events at the Grosvenor Yarmouth. I can think of 6 players, including myself, who picked-up on an almighty tell you give off when you"re bluffing. Clearly, I"m not going to give it away on here(I"ll PM if you want), but it was the main reason why I suggested having a rethink of the hands you play.
3) Justifying something by referring to Harrington or Sklansky is asking for trouble. (a) most of your opponents will have read those books as well, so will be able to spot someone playing by those rules (b) If at any point during a hand your process involves "What would Sklansky/Harrington do", that suggests you really don"t know where you stand and you should make a sharp exit.
4) If concentration is a problem, then don"t play at all. Try setting yourself a time limit, say 1 hour, then turn off any distractions and play for no longer than the time you set
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hi ant, just posted in another thread you wrote a while back. i wud just add to this that for online play your prolly playing 10x more hands (at least) then you are live, the result of this is that the frequency of suckouts is higher! Which increases tilt factor
How many times do you remember pushing some off a better hand in an online session, hows it feel? inconspicuous is the word in comparison to someone sucking out on u. but the ratios are prolly just the same as live but as you can crack out more hands it happens more
loosing always hurts more then winning, moreso when the frequency of events is increased
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I can honestly say that i have never seen anyone run as good as tony does in the Talbot. in contrast watch me tonight, but maybe i think im due a bit of luck.
lol i win the league win the heads up championship beating will amrn todd and bri im leader of national league and you bull****ting about me being luck just lol
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I can honestly say that i have never seen anyone run as good as tony does in the Talbot. in contrast watch me tonight, but maybe i think im due a bit of luck.
lol i win the league win the heads up championship beating will amrn todd and bri im leader of national league and you bull****ting about me being luck just lol
Exactly!! There"s no way you could have won all that without your glut of luck! :)
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cheers simon, this sunday they have a £50 f/o 10k starting stack, starts at 5pm. i unfortunatley cant make it this weekend due to the tv licence bill coming this month(amongst other bills)
im pretty sure of the tell that told everyone i was bluffing (i entered the pot lol) but can you pm me please as i am interested in to what you spotted as it might be different.
i know that 99% of players have read these books so yeah using a quote out of a book is super ameturish but i do use them and adapt the info to my style and it has been profitable to some extent.
i know that my concentration is a problem but im working on it and after a bit of time i will be back to beat online
and by the way s*** does happen, next time ill have them
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Most people think that physical tells last forever, and "once i figure out a persons tell they are going to do it everytime i play them". But in general they dont.
Everyone gives away information all the time, but on another day and in another tourny or cash game they will be giving of different physical tells. (it never happens like it does in Rounders) Hard to explain but the way i see it, everytime you sit down on a new day, evan if you know the players, you have to figure out their body languague all over again. Evan with betting patterns, people will subconciously change their betting habbits from time to time. Maybe one day they will take a free card with a draw, and the next day they will bet a draw.
so Antthecat, dont worry if they think they have figured you out. because its in the vault now.
And on another note. Im so sorry Tony Tee, you are right, you are the best.