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Poker Forum => Online Archive => Online Poker => General Online Poker Discussion => Topic started by: AMRN on December 20, 2009, 17:50:07 PM
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To be clear before I post this, I"m not part of the "online poker is fixed" brigade..... i believe online poker is perfectly legit (I wouldn"t play it so much if I didn"t).
BUT..... I have a question.
I was playing a game this afternoon on Littlewoods (pacific), and was a big stack - this hand in question is not an exit hand. I re-raised all in with KK, and the original raiser called with A9. The flop was dealt at a standard speed, the turn was dealt immediately.... then there was a pause of maybe 8 seconds before an Ace was dealt for the river. This river card delay seems to happen every now and again (not all the time) on most sites that I play.
If there was always a delay before river card is cealt I would understand. However it seems the river card delay only ever happens before a suckout is delivered.
Why?
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seen this a lot myself .... reason cos its fixed cold decks dealt all the time
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I have also noticed that delay. It always seems to happen with "all-ins".
Maybe it"s to build up the "tension" of the river card, but I would not agree that it only happens with "suck outs" - I have experienced both.
Perhaps we only remember the "suck outs".
My experience is on ipoker (where I have noticed being dealt the same hole cards on consecutive hands far more often than probability would be).
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I have seen this too, and it does seem to be only on the river, and the card you didn"t want to see.
I would contact the site, they"ll have a record of it, and maybe will provide a reason for the long delay.
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Its happened a few times during this past on-line season and during the worlds main event but not always the 1 or 2 outer in my experience, would have loved it if it were.
Merry Xmas all
Ian
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To be clear before I post this, I"m not part of the "online poker is fixed" brigade..... i believe online poker is perfectly legit (I wouldn"t play it so much if I didn"t).
BUT..... I have a question.
I was playing a game this afternoon on Littlewoods (pacific), and was a big stack - this hand in question is not an exit hand. I re-raised all in with KK, and the original raiser called with A9. The flop was dealt at a standard speed, the turn was dealt immediately.... then there was a pause of maybe 8 seconds before an Ace was dealt for the river. This river card delay seems to happen every now and again (not all the time) on most sites that I play.
If there was always a delay before river card is cealt I would understand. However it seems the river card delay only ever happens before a suckout is delivered.
Why?
LOL
It"s a delay to stick it in your eye. It takes the software a while to find the right card that will fit perfectly into your eye. It has to check that the colour is right, so not as to give you a flush by accident, etc.
Even funnier when it disconnects you at the same time in order to wind you up even more. Who said software developers don"t have a sense of humour?
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How many software developers does it take to change a lightbulb?
Two - because one always leaves part-way through the project.
Boom Boom!
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<<<<<"Optimist only sees doughnut. Pessimist sees hole."
I think if we are going to ask this question we also have to ask:
How much integrity is there in taking money from weaker players who voluntarily play pokers online?
AND......
Which outweighs which... my forum ninja kung fu is strong, no?
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Has anyone played on DTD"s site much? If so have you experienced any issues / do you have any general comments?
I ask because I played for the first time tonight (I made it a resolution to play more online satellites than live MTTs mid-week) and 3 times on my table people got it in Pre with the same hand AA, KK & AJ only for 1 player to 4-flush each time.
This seems a statistical improbability to me.
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Seems rough but it is just variance it looks bad and rigged but sites aren"t gonna be any better off by rigging the draw one way or another
I seen quads 3 times over 1 hour in a pub tourney tonight. Different dealers each time too.
That"s poker as they say!
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Has anyone played on DTD"s site much? If so have you experienced any issues / do you have any general comments?
Yep, I hate that network.
I ask because I played for the first time tonight (I made it a resolution to play more online satellites than live MTTs mid-week) and 3 times on my table people got it in Pre with the same hand AA, KK & AJ only for 1 player to 4-flush each time.
This seems a statistical improbability to me.
I was saying to someone the other day, in live poker I"ve NEVER lost with KK v AA all-in pre-flop. Live poker is soooo rigged.
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this is an early contender for thread of the year imo
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I reckon that JFK was shot by the same secret service agent who took out Princess Di on the orders of the Queen before being flown in a UFO to a location which the american government doesn"t officially confirm exists but was also where they gave authority for 9/11 to take place so they could have an excuse to invade Iraq.
I also believe that all internet poker is fixed.
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Yeah it"s fixed
tom dean signs a deal with full tilt
over the next month he goes on to lose around $4 million
yeah it"s all rigged
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who is Tom dean???? If you mean Durrrr, then he was on a hot loosing streak way before he put pen to paper. Some say that he was close to going busto, so he signed to get extra and regular income to cover his losses.
Anyway, i can always remember 2 Apat seasons ago, very very close to the bubble of a online sat for one of the live events, (not to sure which one). i got QQ or JJ vs Ak about 4 times in the space of about 6 hands. And i also saw AK vs AQ around 5 times with 3 tables left, at the time others were commeting on it, saying "how sick" it was that there is so many good starting hands given the situation. quite funny to be honest, could of just been complete cold decks.
" the site wants it to end quickly, so they programme big hands vs big hands for people to shove freely with", not my words by the way....
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who is Tom dean????
e and w right next to each other on the keyboard
and yeah - dwan was close to losing millions but i doubt he went to them begging to become a sponsored pro - if they thought he wasnt a winning player then they wouldnt want his name on the brand and wouldnt sign him
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I would nt be surprised if it was on his terms, eg. they beggend him to sign. he brings so much interest to the online game. he is basically the link from online to live celebrity status. They have allowed him to keep his screen name. All other team fulltilt members use there proper name, They even made patrick antonius change from "cry me a river" when he signed 18 months ago.
Wonder how much wages team fulltilt get. I already know that all their tourney buy-ins are paid for. Imagine that, play any tourney you want, get paid to do so and keep any winnings.
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Wonder how much wages team fulltilt get. I already know that all their tourney buy-ins are paid for. Imagine that, play any tourney you want, get paid to do so and keep any winnings.
Where did you hear this? I"ve never heard that before. From the 14 members of Team Full Tilt the only ones I can say i"ve ever saw in a tournament outside of the big FTOPs events is Erick Lindgren & Phil Gordon. Some of the rest show up for the FTOPs etc but nothing really other than that as far as i"ve saw. The usual rate for their regular Red Pros is supposedly 100% rakeback + $35/hr.
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i was meaning live tourneys, remember recently when the horse event was getting pulled from ESPN cameras because of a lack of audiance interest??
Well i read in Negranues blog, at the time that Fulltilt and Stars were not going to buy in their pros, because the event was not going on TV. Lots of pros dropped out of the event because they would have to put up the 50k themselves. only the ones who could afford to play payed. It meant that the field and prize pool was reduced, and Negranue hated this because it was supposed to be in memory of chip Reese.
Bet you will see durrrr playing the aussie millions tourny comming up soon. He will be at the feature table at some time wearing the clothes no doubt. Whereas last year he went just for the large cash games.