Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Poker Forum => Online Poker => Topic started by: APAT on October 10, 2007, 21:00:32 PM
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APAT Season Two starts in earnest on Thursday October 11th at 8pm, with the first tournament of the online series, the Austrian Open.
The event willl be available through the tournament section of the Blue Square client, for an entry fee of $10 + $1.
Players will start with a 5,000 chip deepstack, with the top nine scoring APAT ranking points and the top three securing APAT gold, silver and bronze medals.
The Blue Square poker client can be downloaded from www.bluesquarepoker.com.
Good luck to all participating players!
Regards,
APAT Customer Services
customer@apat.com
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Will you need a password to enter like last year ( "apatmember") ?
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Will you need a password to enter like last year ( "apatmember") ?
I believe NOT...as you ARE an APAT member if you are on BSq.
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Can U.S. players play?
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Hi Nathan, really good to hear from you. Unfortunately very few sites are taking US players due to the changes that the industry is going through in the States. APAT was unable to put on a major proposed tournament in the US due to being sponsored by PokerStars, who do continue to take US customers. As soon as the situation sorts itself out in the US, as it surely will do, APAT will be working very hard to encourage our sponsors to accept our entire member base. Apologies for the inconvenience that this is causing you in the interim.
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im from the uk is this for me?
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Will you need a password to enter like last year ( "apatmember") ?
I believe NOT...as you ARE an APAT member if you are on BSq.
Does that mean that EVERYONE on BlueSQ can play? This tourny could get bombed by randomers? :(
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hi, the tournament isnt visible! any reasons?
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im from the uk is this for me?
Yes - get registered!
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I"m in ready willing and very able to donk my entire stack to the first person who has the temerity to raise into my big blind ;D ;D ;D
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I can not log on (chuffin-site)
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238 players, this could take a while
Good luck all
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did you get in wayne?
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lkjvoiuaplc,sAJclmb "pdfm afdpoadgbm = NO :"(
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I didn"t get in either and am suitably unimpressed with BlueSquare.
I was able to log in but could not find the tournament.
Looking under both APAT and All Scheduled Tournaments resulted in a "No Results Found" message.
I then tried their (inappropriately named) Quick Search. At about 7.55, I entered in the search criteria to find any $10 No-Limit Tourney starting in the next hour. At just after 8.10 it came back with the "No Results Found" message.
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It was here:
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Nice start.
7s 8c
Flop 5h 6c 9d
opponent who will remain nameless goes all in with Q high!!!!
Nice easy call!!!
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Got held up and just got home 40 minutes late, lucky I pre-registered earlier! Had only lost a few chips thanks to the deepstack and decent 15min levels. So back up just over starting now...
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Well I"ve learnt the error of slow playing a flopped full house - but at least I saw the danger on the river and minimised my losses.
I"m aiming to get those chips back at some point Foggy :)
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First break 6.3k feel like i"m playing well but donked a few away on a messy hand right before the break
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dealt AA 3 times in first hour. One double up, one blinds only, the other a SP when I ran them into another AA!!)
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Down to 3.3k.Had the most card dead hour of poker that i"ve ever had.Tried to make one move and got found out .Things can only get better (hopefully)
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DesD,
we are missing your chat... Are you actually watching but cannot admin chat?
Carl..
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11.8k at first break, mainly thanks to turning a broadway against someone"s flopped set.
never had so many chips...
cue the thinker blow up...
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dealt AA 3 times in first hour. One double up, one blinds only, the other a SP when I ran them into another AA!!)
and donked the rest off!
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DesD,
we are missing your chat... Are you actually watching but cannot admin chat?
Carl..
Hi Carl - I"m missing the opportunity to chat very much. I watched your table for a good while and caught some of these nuggets.....
lubandige: OK OK now i am confused again -- who is who on this damn site
lubandige: and this shirt is disgusting
sharkstopper: wow some bet for 75 chips
Al2929: hit it by mistake I had 56 offsuite lol, glad no one called
pawprint75: had me beat
lubandige: nh
pawprint75: ta
Shogun122: burp
scouse3465: oopps
scouse3465: lol nh
b3005354: ta
Shogun122: scouse, are you DJ Scouse?
scouse3465: no mate
lubandige: he"s bluffing
Shogun122: lol
Shogun122: and, i am wondering if b3005354 is suzanne?
lubandige: keep putting your chips in Shogun and you"ll be right eventually
Shogun122: yadda yadda yadda
Shogun122: hey lubandige
lubandige: wot
Shogun122: youi have got a slap head...
Shogun122: and
lubandige: and a cool shirt
Shogun122: yer twin is sat next to ya
Shogun122: dunno about cool
I hate missing out though.....
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Gotta say the stars events in series one pissed all over Blue square. They are too limited in deposit methods and all the guy on help can say is "company policy"
I"m going to have to set up a new account as they wont let me change my deposit method.
Missed out 2nite but good luck everyone.
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LOL Des... And.. When you see the fish that have been on my table, can yer ban em from APAT please.. LOL...
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Triple all in pre-flop my 88 in the lead against 55 and QK until a king on the turn and i feel robbed what is he doing calling 2 all ins with QK played well going to bed in a huff.
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well, I think that there are some great players in this game, unfortunately there are players who care to call 4x raises with like K 5 off... and then seeing 2 pair or trips on the flop.. unreal.. I am now changing to play like them also...
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Well still in a second break with a massive 875 chips.
Been short stacked since I flopped trip 7"s but couldnt get Gimac to lay down his flopped trip 10"s.
Then lost with JJ against A9, oh well there"s always next time.
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well, I think that there are some great players in this game, unfortunately there are players who care to call 4x raises with like K 5 off... and then seeing 2 pair or trips on the flop.. unreal.. I am now changing to play like them also...
(http://blondepoker.com/forum/Smileys/default/dontask.gif)
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Unlucky Phil you had only got to the table.
The K Q guy had been playing so many hands he shouldnt.
He has donked most of them off now (30 mins since you lost)
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chip lead with 81000 chips. time for the mike matusow blow up
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Out in 60th place. Good run for my money and quite enjoyed it. :)
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chip lead with 81000 chips. time for the mike matusow blow up
Nice one fella. I"m still hanging in, not a patch on your stack though.
I see you"re on 98,000 now.
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Trying to keep up with you Dunc. I"m on 46k now.
Leigh
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Three double-ups and I"m chip leader... ;D
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KK beaten by AT all in preflop - River Ace
AJ beaten by A2 - River 2
Not bothered, honest
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggggggh
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Ok daniel give up, whats your blue sq user name
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King of Diamonds?
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Oh well. Cashed, but was hanging on with about 2 or 3 BBs at the end.
Wanted a chance to double up to go for the points, but not to be. Good structure though, and enjoyable as always.
Get it won Dunc!!
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i intend to cheers!!!!
How the XXXX have i got to 160000 lol!!!!
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Well I"ve learnt the error of slow playing a flopped full house...
No it seems I haven"t learnt any lesson at all.
In a different tournament, on a different site, I flopped the nut straight.
Slow, slow - hmm! Board pairing on the turn and 3 of a kind on the board after the river - suddenly my straight doesn"t look so good to an all in bet. :"(
Okay - now I"ve learnt my lesson. No more slow playing, anywhere, anytime with any hand. Probably.
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I would have been railing the rest of the tournament, but Blue Square uses up so much of my PC capacity that I had to switch it off. ;D
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GET SOME MORE RAM!!!!!
::)
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:D
And I lasted about half an hour without slow playing a hand. Worked this time though.
:D
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final table time
215000
still chip leader
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Out in 12th. My AK didn"t improve against a pair of 7"s
Damage was done a couple of hands before when I lost over 70k when my Kings were busted by Queens when one of the remaining queens floated in on the river.
No medal, no points, 5 hours play, but I"m $12 up. I think I"ll sleep on this before postings comments tomorrow.
Good luck to the final table. How has Neil made it on there ? ;D
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I re-phrase that, how did Neil make it on there.
He"s gone in 10th, just missing the points. Very unlucky.
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Out in 12th. My AK didn"t improve against a pair of 7"s
Damage was done a couple of hands before when I lost over 70k when my Kings were busted by Queens when one of the remaining queens floated in on the river.
No medal, no points, 5 hours play, but I"m $12 up. I think I"ll sleep on this before postings comments tomorrow.
Good luck to the final table. How has Neil made it on there ? ;D
Neil has made it on there with a mix of folding ALL kinds of hands to avoid the bubble initially (2nd shortest stack on cash bubble), with some luck with 66 that hit the flop for the third time tonight (first two didn"t get me paid), then with some horrendous luck with A6s committed to calling against AA on a K97 board then hitting 8 on turn and 10 on river. I did apologise ... :-\
I made it to final table with short stack (66k). With A6 again I made top pair on 456 all diamond board, I pushed, was called by the Ad and the turn was a Diamond. Out in 10th.
Great experience, great event (I"m not sure I"ll be too popular crawling into bed at 1:30 every Friday morning though so let"s make it 3k or 4k chips). I"m gutted my name"s still not gonna make the Leaderboard but, in all honesty, I happy just to have made an APAT final table.
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1.30 am
5 left
Bowlestown 464000
me 305000
kdh 172000
mcvic 162000
slOggs 91000
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1.30 am
5 left
Bowlestown 464000
me 305000
kdh 172000
mcvic 162000
slOggs 91000
What are the blind levels?
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I think at that point they had just gone up to 6000/12000
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fXXX me I won!!!!
Great final battle with sloggs in the end my 10 J cracked his Kings
10 high flop both go all in J on turn
great game SLOGGS see you at Walsall
Good night everyone.
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duncthehat - well played... Followed it throughout when i saw you were among the chip leaders earlier on! Shame i couldnt play myself. Hopefully ill be playing on Saturday!
Matt
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Thanks Matt made up for how I played at Cardiff!!
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fXXX me I won!!!!
Great final battle with sloggs in the end my 10 J cracked his Kings
10 high flop both go all in J on turn
great game SLOGGS see you at Walsall
Good night everyone.
Blimey!
Not that you won - that it"s over before 3am :)
Very well done
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Great game guys, really enjoyed it, especially the superb heads-up tussle!
See you in Walsall indeed... :)
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Tip my hat to you fella ;)
Been a long time coming.
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What a great heads up battle watched it right to the end.
Congrats to you both.
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Would like to add my congratulations well done
Palosha
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Well done to the winner. Came 7th
It was a fun tournament to play in, but wouldnt have been as fun if i had work the next day. Next time out maybe make it 3k starting chips?
Maybe make it 20$ as well?
GG everyone
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Congrats Dunc on the win, those early wins against some strange hands stood you in good stead.
Unlucky but well played Slogs, down to the felt at one point but great comeback.
Commisserations Ash (Bowlestown) so close to a medal. That"ll teach you to listen to Mike though and calling an all in reraise with AK ;)
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A very enjoyable tournament! Finished in 26th place after a few cruel hands.
AK vs my pocket sevens and the board pairs twice leaving my sevens in the dust. The very next hand I receive pocket aces... I push to be called by pocket jacks. The flop comes with 2 jacks! The turn comes an A!!! The river a blank >:(
Still nice game and got my money back!
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Congrats on the win dunc ive just got up, glad to hear the QK guy donked my chips away ;D
Looking back he made a great call, but i don"t think he knew it was good, we were both about 40% to win the hand but even so, surely he had one of us 2 all in on an AK/AQ, :-\ i don"t know, all i know is that i"ve got a party to go to tomorrow so good luck to everyone playing in the swiss open.
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Thanks guys for your kind comments.
The heads up was a real battle. Sloggs was tough to play against.
Ash was really unlucky, he had built up 70 per cent of the chips at one stage, doing a real Jamie Gold and knocking everyone out at the final table!!.
Was unlucky that his AK ran into my aces just after I had doubled up, mind you he nearly got the straight!!!
As I cant actually put a face to either of you guys come and look me up at Walsall and i will get you guys a drink
I would also personally like to thank my neighbour for starting to drill and hammer and 7.30 am this morning
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What did 1/2/3 pay last night? Oh yeah and congratulations to medal winners.
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1st 645
2nd 430
3rd 215
4th 167
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Bah...17th...so near to the final table yet so far...would have loved to have got some points on the board, especially after missing the regionals (and the qualis and the clickfest :-(, season 2 starting with a handicap for me).
Well done to everyone who got in the points last night, hopefully be joining you soon.
I was AllanD23 in season 1 but have turned into the Duke of Hazard for season 2 (joined one night just to look at gukpt qualifiers early this year, guess what was on the telly...), tried to change the name but bluesquare just point you at ipoker who burst out laughing at you (that"s if they acknowledge you exist).
Oh, and congratulations to Stevie Hill for winning the scottish regional event though i suspect I"m going to be seeing quite a bit of his gold medal :-( Tell you whit stevie, i"ll put my losers silver medal in the drawer for my next home game if you agree not to bring your gold ... (anyone else think a season 1 silver will have better long term bumming value than a season 2 gold?...no, didn"t think so...). Where did you finish last night stevie? two hundred and what"th? (I know, it"s all i have though)
Starting to lose count of the medallists that come to my home game now, reckon we must have one of the hardest home games to win...
Des, any chance of a list of who"s who this year? would be handy to know who the lucky ones are :-) And of course nice to know when we"re playing folk from last season (or should that be this season as technically s1 not finished?)
Catch you all tomorrow night...
Allan Deuchars.
oh, my losing hand, had about 27k, bb6k, i"m on bb, sb has 34k (kdh, glad to see you used my chips wisely :-)), all fold to sb, he/she flat calls, i push with tjc, hoping for a fold or at least 2 live cards and a 60/40...kdh calls with a5o, both miss so the ace holds up...surprised at the call as it"s quite likely if i had an ace it would be stronger but there you go, a good call never the less cos i didn"t have an ace lol.
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Well played Dunc, glad to see you used my stack wisely. I"ll make sure to say hi to you at Walsall. I was a vey sorry soul this morning have get up at 6 to drive to work. Looking forward to next time already, Ash "Bowles Town" ;)
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Great game lads i came 6th gutted didnt get a medal but maybe next time.
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Well done to the winner. Came 7th
It was a fun tournament to play in, but wouldnt have been as fun if i had work the next day. Next time out maybe make it 3k starting chips?
Maybe make it 20$ as well?
GG everyone
Seconded. ;D
8)
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fXXX me I won!!!!
Great final battle with sloggs in the end my 10 J cracked his Kings
10 high flop both go all in J on turn
great game SLOGGS see you at Walsall
Good night everyone.
Top performance Dunc, very well played mate!!!
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Well done to the winner. Came 7th
It was a fun tournament to play in, but wouldnt have been as fun if i had work the next day. Next time out maybe make it 3k starting chips?
Maybe make it 20$ as well?
GG everyone
Seconded. ;D
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Also why don"t we keep it 5k starting chips, and change it to just Saturday? ;)
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Not everyone who wants to play can make Saturdays (like me) , or for some make Thursdays. Having both tourneys gives members a chance to play.
The tourneys should be shortened by way of shorter blinds or smaller starting stack.
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The tourneys should be shortened by way of shorter blinds or smaller starting stack.
So make it a worse tournament - more of a crapshoot - more like every other tournament, in which case, what would be the point?
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agree with this.
As much as I"d like the online tourneys to finish earlier myself, I also understand that APAT is about deepstacked tourneys allowing for more creative play. Its too bad for me and for others, but I"ll just deal with it.
If the turnouts had been small then maybe it could be an issue for consideration. 200 isn"t a bad turn out IMO.
If 200 is a poor turnout (IOPO) and less chips/smaller blinds results in 1000 runners, how much quicker would the tourney really play out?
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i appreciate and understand what you are saying, and i can deal with a 3 a.m. finish even an 8 a.m. finish, but how many can. It is an amature association so most players will have work to go to a few hours later.
As the snowball known as APAT continues to grow 230 players could well be regarded as a low turn out in months to come. A max of 800 players are allowed. What time finish for 400 players or 600 players under the current structure - or will the structure itself control the number of players because members will not enter because of the length of the tourney.
If so, can this be right? The structure controlling the members, and not the members contolling the structure.
You can only control the length of a tourney by way of buy-in, number of players, length of blinds and starting chips.
Increasing the cost of buy-in is unfair to those that want to but can"t afford to ($20 seems to be fair to me)
Drastically reducing the max number of players ends up with another "clickfest" which we all hate.
Would 3,000 chips really be that painful? Cream will always float to the top whether it be 3,000 or 5,000 chips.
Would 12 min blinds instead of 15 mins really lead to a "crapsoot". I don"t think so.
The more hurdles that you put in the way of a member taking part, the less interested a member will become, and you will end up with a small elite group of people left - a private members club rather than an association.
Deepstacks and long blinds work well for live events because of the constraints laid down by lack of table space at casinos.
What would happen if everyone who took part in the clickfest a couple of weeks ago could get a seat - the tourney would take 3 or 4 days, and how many would then be able to take part? The constraints of the casinos will not last for ever - what will we do then.
The structure is not the most important thing in the APAT (IMHO), the member is, and their active participation should be encouraged and made as easy as possible.
This will lead to a happy and active community, which I am sure we all want.
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Very well said.
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Here"s a radical idea - why do we have to conclude a tournament in one sitting? Live tournaments are played over multiple sittings, why not online? It might mean major changes to software or it could be as simple as increasing the duration of the last break of the night to 20 hours. Could be something for future seasons?
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Here"s a radical idea - why do we have to conclude a tournament in one sitting? Live tournaments are played over multiple sittings, why not online? It might mean major changes to software or it could be as simple as increasing the duration of the last break of the night to 20 hours. Could be something for future seasons?
This is a brilliant suggestion! Cant believe it would mean too many drastic changes to the software (If they can change between blind level lengths and starting stack sizes they can surely change break lengths)
The only real problem would be people who would not be available on other days
At the end of the day, you"ll never please everyone, which is why i think they should keep it as it is for now.
A poll/survey/questionaire on the structure for the online series would surely settle any arguements.
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Lets make them flipaments- that way the tourney will be over in a minute.
20,000 strating chips. Only rule is you have to go all in every hand. There u go- all done!
Might sound a bit sarky but I agree with Jon MW- there is plenty of tourney selection out there online with low starting chips and quick blinds. The unique thing about APAT is that it offers a deeper structure at a fraction of the cost.
I personally would feel aggrieved if you took chips off players. It would take my edge away being the great player I am ;D
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I have"nt competed in season 2 online yet(Holidays), but i have read these posts with interest as they bring up a couple of valid points which members feel strongly about ie,
1) some wanting a quality tourney with a bigger than normal starting stack enabling creative play, so we amateurs can develop a better game.
2) but concerns from some others regarding growth in numbers which will effect some members ability to play due to the length of the tourneys?
I have a couple of solutions which need forum discussion;
1) Why can"t APAT/Blue Square look at running 2 tourneys alongside each other on the THURSDAY ONLY both starting at the same time. One keeping the current format and the other with less chips/faster blinds(whatever is agreed). Players would be able to CHOOSE which format suited them that night and play in ONE only-not both? Obviously player numbers would have to rise upto 300+ for this to be feasible and perhaps a consensus taken on members choices to give a guide as to the number of players wanting which option?
This would obviously double the APAT points available on this night which needs to be carefully thought thru and of course a check to ensure members do not enter both?
I think that Saturday could be left as we are, but that can also be open to debate?
2) Another option is for APAT to split the membership in 2, via email addresses or surnames etc and allocate one half into a "BLACK TEAM" the other the "WHITE TEAM", or "A TEAM" & a "B TEAM" or "DES"S DRUNKS" & "TIKAY"S ANORAK"S"!?
On THURSDAY ONLY Blue Square has both tourneys open for Apat members to join their allocated tourney and all new members are allocated a team which keeps them equal in size etc.
Option 2 has the tourneys running at the current status and can be split further as online participation grows. Perhaps into the regional groups we currently have for live events which throws up the possibility of online regional points-just an idea?
Okay a lot to take in and i am sure it can be improved upon-what do you think? ??? ;D
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If you try a bit harder Kevin, I"m sure you could find an even more complicated solution ;)
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I did think that DES"S DRUNKS & TIKAY"S ANORAKS was funny though!? Imagine Des getting someone drunk? ;D
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But if Des's one was ironic then shouldn"t Tikays be so as well?
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Yes, but somehow not as much? :D