Don"t suppose Betfair have any plans to launch Mac friendly poker software before the first clickfest?
Delighted.
Aberdeen is a bit of a rough one, but can"t have everything!
Aberdeen was my idea lol
thanks you DES!!!!!!!!!!!
Delighted.
Aberdeen is a bit of a rough one, but can"t have everything!
Aberdeen was my idea lol
Oh no, that"s a bit too close to Ironside country!!
We have a good idea Dave, but there are still some items to finalise before we can say.
We have a good idea Dave, but there are still some items to finalise before we can say.
Sorry Des,
Just being selfish wanted to know if it was close enough to drive!!!!!
We have a good idea Dave, but there are still some items to finalise before we can say.
Sorry Des,
Just being selfish wanted to know if it was close enough to drive!!!!!
Think I"d probably fly.
Aberdeen FFS.
Aberdeen FFS.
Hello all.
This is a great schedule.
How do you register for tourneys? (not yet played an APAT)... Do you register on this site? or via BetFair?
Cheers.
Aberdeen FFS.
Aberdeen FFS.
lol
What"s the capacity at the G?
Aberdeen FFS.
lol
What"s the capacity at the G?
Aberdeen FFS.
lol
What"s the capacity at the G?
149+Ironside
i didn"t remove it that"s for sure
i didn"t remove it that"s for sure
Mary?!?!?!
:D
The schedule"s defnitely fixed I assume?
Primarily, the Worlds aren"t going to move from those dates, are they?
lol...post again and remove your post above.
The schedule"s defnitely fixed I assume?
Primarily, the Worlds aren"t going to move from those dates, are they?
No. Fixed as a fixed thing.
great news on all fronts... well done apat... does this mean we have to alter or player id to suit for the online league???
wats that bcpc again ?????????????????????????????
Well it was a long time in the making but WELL DONE GUYS.......can"t say that you haven"t put the effort in.
One thing that may or may not be an error....under "Specialist series", should that really say NLHE on 20/6 or should it maybe say PLHE ??
As to the European events, could we have the cities asap so that we can get some flights, etc sorted out.
Will the Spanish one be near to Benidorm as me Bro lives there ??
If it is then I can see the BCPC going en-masse !!
Awesome stuff Des
Ok to post the details on PL or would you like to make the announcement yourself?
Graeme
lol...post again and remove your post above.
Ok I basically said that I didn"t like Betfair"s software but well done on everything other than that.
The announcement has exceeded my expectations for sure and looking forward to taking part.
lol...post again and remove your post above.
Ok I basically said that I didn"t like Betfair"s software but well done on everything other than that.
The announcement has exceeded my expectations for sure and looking forward to taking part.
LOL wasn"t me I"ve only just got back on, was on the phone...ive learned my lesson doh!
NH WP
Betfair was where I first opened an account, pretty sure my username made me sound like a mentalist off to try to remember it.
NH WP
Betfair was where I first opened an account, pretty sure my username made me sound like a mentalist off to try to remember it.
Wiiiiiiiiiii after getting locked out twice i am finally in gonna have a go at the half hourly turbo and see what the software is like. 8 minutes to go anyone? Eckyboy is in
lol...post again and remove your post above.
Ok I basically said that I didn"t like Betfair"s software but well done on everything other than that.
The announcement has exceeded my expectations for sure and looking forward to taking part.
LOL wasn"t me I"ve only just got back on, was on the phone...ive learned my lesson doh!
dum di dum..... ::)
NH WP
Betfair was where I first opened an account, pretty sure my username made me sound like a mentalist off to try to remember it.
Wiiiiiiiiiii after getting locked out twice i am finally in gonna have a go at the half hourly turbo and see what the software is like. 8 minutes to go anyone? Eckyboy is in
couldnt say it better ;D
fanfeckingtastically trefeckingmendous
Can I start asking a few questions Des or should I wait until after the weekend?
Happy to wait for more announcements but feel free to answer if you want.
Which events will be assigned ranking points? medals etc.?
Will the National Leagues be the same format as last season?
Will there be online qualifiers for all the Amateur Championships and Professional League events?
more...
Is Aberdeen further north than Estonia?
Are there 50 players who know how to play draw?
Happy to wait for more announcements but feel free to answer if you want.
Which events will be assigned ranking points? medals etc.?
Will the National Leagues be the same format as last season?
Will there be online qualifiers for all the Amateur Championships and Professional League events?
Full ranking points (18) to multi day events and half ranking points to side events in Amateur Championship. All events will award medals.
Full Ranking points (18) in Professional League and medals.
9 Ranking points available in Specialist Series, but will not award medals.
Full Ranking points in Online main events and half in Omaha Championships. Both will award medals.
National League will run in same format, but we"ll have two 10 match leagues as opposed to 1 20 match league. Prize structure to be finalised as we don"t have an 8 seat GUKPT budget for this, but we do have around £5k to allocate.
Qualifiers - yes, same as S3 - Monday $20, Tuesday $10, Weds $5 rebuy + $50 Pro League satellite. Thursday clickfest at 9pm. Same structures on all events.
Any announcements being made by Betfair ? just looking around their website.
Any announcements being made by Betfair ? just looking around their website.
Betfair are putting a press release out tomorrow morning. They are very pleased with this relationship; obviously APAT is high profile when compared with the World Series of Poker Europe. ;D
They will be putting up an APAT landing page, APAT promotional page, emailing all of their UK players next week and taking branded APAT ads out in the poker press. They will be extremely supportive.
Naturally we didn"t want any of that to happen until we"d spoken to you all first.
Aberdeen in June, and Spain in January....typo yes?! ;D
Aberdeen in June, and Spain in January....typo yes?! ;D
you"d prefer it the other way round?
Looks like there"s only 2 set of rankings, with the live and online ones being merged.
edit: no... actually it looks like rankings are effectively being removed, if only tournament winners qualify for the champions event. Clarification please?
Aberdeen in June, and Spain in January....typo yes?! ;D
you"d prefer it the other way round?
Spain better in the sun no...and Aberdeen in January..well is cold what ever the date!
Happy to wait for more announcements but feel free to answer if you want.
Which events will be assigned ranking points? medals etc.?
Will the National Leagues be the same format as last season?
Will there be online qualifiers for all the Amateur Championships and Professional League events?
Full ranking points (18) to multi day events and half ranking points to side events in Amateur Championship. All events will award medals.
Full Ranking points (18) in Professional League and medals.
9 Ranking points available in Specialist Series, but will not award medals.
Full Ranking points in Online main events and half in Omaha Championships. Both will award medals.
National League will run in same format, but we"ll have two 10 match leagues as opposed to 1 20 match league. Prize structure to be finalised as we don"t have an 8 seat GUKPT budget for this, but we do have around £5k to allocate.
Qualifiers - yes, same as S3 - Monday $20, Tuesday $10, Weds $5 rebuy + $50 Pro League satellite. Thursday clickfest at 9pm. Same structures on all events.
Is specialist series a separate ranking league or do they go towards National Amateur rankings?
so 4 sets of rankings?
National rankings (live)
National rankings (online)
Professional league
National online league x 3 - twice
Looks like there"s only 2 set of rankings, with the live and online ones being merged.
edit: no... actually it looks like rankings are effectively being removed, if only tournament winners qualify for the champions event. Clarification please?
Live and Online rankings continue separately with the winner of each receiving a GUKPT seat and entry to the Champions Final, alongside the National Champions.
No APAT Walsall this season?
Always wanted to do that one.
NH WP
Betfair was where I first opened an account, pretty sure my username made me sound like a mentalist off to try to remember it.
Wiiiiiiiiiii after getting locked out twice i am finally in gonna have a go at the half hourly turbo and see what the software is like. 8 minutes to go anyone? Eckyboy is in
Oh lol
NH WP
Betfair was where I first opened an account, pretty sure my username made me sound like a mentalist off to try to remember it.
Wiiiiiiiiiii after getting locked out twice i am finally in gonna have a go at the half hourly turbo and see what the software is like. 8 minutes to go anyone? Eckyboy is in
Oh lol
lol all you like Eckyboy is 1/7 on ft :D
Aberdeen in June, and Spain in January....typo yes?! ;D
you"d prefer it the other way round?
Spain better in the sun no...and Aberdeen in January..well is cold what ever the date!
and Aberdeen in January is under two feet of snow!! and why is Spain better in the sun when you will be sitting in an air conditioned casinoe for the duration?
I would appreciate if those of you who have websites and blogs, posted the press release so that we can create a great wave of excitement for the start of the season that will follow next week!
just found £1.14 in my very dormant betfair poker account :D
Right, going bed. All of your questions will be answered tomorrow evening - so post away. I would appreciate if those of you who have websites and blogs, posted the press release so that we can create a great wave of excitement for the start of the season that will follow next week!
Monday - Welsh Amateur Championship satellite $20, 8pm
Tuesday - Welsh Amateur Championship satellite $10, 8pm
Wednesday - Welsh Amateur Championship satellite $5 rebuy, 8pm / Professional League Swansea satellite $50, 8pm
Thursday - Welsh Amateur Championship - £75 - Entry in Betfair poker lobby at 9pm sharp.
Friday - Welsh Online Championship satellite $20, 8pm
Saturday - Welsh Online Championship main event - $50 - GUKPT Seat and Medals, 8pm
Saturday - Welsh Online Championship PLO event - $25 - Professional League Seat and Medals, 9pm
NH WP
Betfair was where I first opened an account, pretty sure my username made me sound like a mentalist off to try to remember it.
Wiiiiiiiiiii after getting locked out twice i am finally in gonna have a go at the half hourly turbo and see what the software is like. 8 minutes to go anyone? Eckyboy is in
Oh lol
lol all you like Eckyboy is 1/7 on ft :D
First APAT win FTW!!!
I would appreciate if those of you who have websites and blogs, posted the press release so that we can create a great wave of excitement for the start of the season that will follow next week!
Well done eck, couple of sick hand headsup.
imconfuseddotcom
the online league do we have to register again to play for our clubs?
Ha! I was totally planning on going to Tallinn this year!
Both of these would be alleviated by running the Pro event on the Sunday. I know there is an additional event that day but there would still be fewer runners combined than on the Saturday.
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Only 50 seats for the Specialist Series...really? I could fill that with my lads alone. I think APAT has massively underestimated the demand here.
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just back from the pub and a little fresh lets say would like to say well done and good luck with the new season will read again tomorrow to take it in better love the Estonia event winner winner winner
on the down side $20 sat to win a $50 seat for the welsh online is very strange
but once again thanks for all your work at apat for season 4 and good luck
It"s very easy to overestimate the demand for some of those games, i.e. a lot more people say it"s a great idea compared to how many people actually want to buy a seat.
Having said that I suspect that the cap is more down to a supply side issue rather than the demand.
S"funny, it"s on other forums but not a dicky-bird on Betfair about all this.
Are you sure you gave us the right name?
Satellite qualifying dates will be added to the calendar later this evening.
In the interim, here are the dates for next week"s Welsh Championship (live and online) satelllites at Betfair.com.
Thursday - Welsh Amateur Championship - £75 - Entry in Betfair poker lobby at 9pm sharp.
Satellite qualifying dates will be added to the calendar later this evening.
In the interim, here are the dates for next week"s Welsh Championship (live and online) satelllites at Betfair.com.
Thursday - Welsh Amateur Championship - £75 - Entry in Betfair poker lobby at 9pm sharp.
Des...Clickfest for the PLO in Swansea?
Des, a $20 sat for a $50 event? Seems a bit much...surely $10 would be a better figure?
Satellite qualifying dates will be added to the calendar later this evening.
In the interim, here are the dates for next week"s Welsh Championship (live and online) satelllites at Betfair.com.Monday - Welsh Amateur Championship satellite $20, 8pmThursday - Welsh Amateur Championship - £75 - Entry in Betfair poker lobby at 9pm sharp.
Tuesday - Welsh Amateur Championship satellite $10, 8pm
Wednesday - Welsh Amateur Championship satellite $5 rebuy, 8pm / Professional League Swansea satellite $50, 8pmFriday - Welsh Online Championship satellite $20, 8pm
Saturday - Welsh Online Championship main event - $50 - GUKPT Seat and Medals, 8pm
Saturday - Welsh Online Championship PLO event - $25 - Professional League Seat and Medals, 9pm
The satellites should start to appear later today.
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Des...Clickfest for the PLO in Swansea?
No clickfest for that one Paulie....it"s there to be available as an event for the players who don"t make day 2 but are staying over.
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Des...Clickfest for the PLO in Swansea?
No clickfest for that one Paulie....it"s there to be available as an event for the players who don"t make day 2 but are staying over.
Kinda limits the entrants to those who bust out of the main event or am I missing something? Would locals/railers to the main comp be allowed to play?
Then again, for me, a trip to Wales just to play a £25 comp would be silly.
I think the primary aim of the Sunday events was to cater for people who had bust out of the main event (ie the people who would be there anyway)
I think the primary aim of the Sunday events was to cater for people who had bust out of the main event (ie the people who would be there anyway)
That makese sense Jon (and explains the limited number of seats).
I wonder if the early busters (like me) get the first crack at seats?
Entries open from 2.45 on Saturday then? :)
Thanks for your note yesterday Ross. I believe everything in the lobby is in dollars; despite the multi currency wallet, so the direct buy in to the clickfest will also be in $ - $120 - which is nearly £79.00. All of the entry money will be sent to the casino, so effectively there will be x number of players times £79.00 in the prize pool. All of the money will be paid out in sterling at the casino. Should be fine.
Thanks for your note yesterday Ross. I believe everything in the lobby is in dollars; despite the multi currency wallet, so the direct buy in to the clickfest will also be in $ - $120 - which is nearly £79.00. All of the entry money will be sent to the casino, so effectively there will be x number of players times £79.00 in the prize pool. All of the money will be paid out in sterling at the casino. Should be fine.
Just a quick question - would that mean you need to have the $120 in your betfair account to be able to get a seat via the clickfest? (sorry if that"s me being a numpty - but nothing new there ::) )
Thanks for your note yesterday Ross. I believe everything in the lobby is in dollars; despite the multi currency wallet, so the direct buy in to the clickfest will also be in $ - $120 - which is nearly £79.00. All of the entry money will be sent to the casino, so effectively there will be x number of players times £79.00 in the prize pool. All of the money will be paid out in sterling at the casino. Should be fine.
Just a quick question - would that mean you need to have the $120 in your betfair account to be able to get a seat via the clickfest? (sorry if that"s me being a numpty - but nothing new there ::) )
I think that"s the only way it would work Pete.
Sorry everyone, I"ve not been around much today but I will be on site this evening to catch up with outstanding questions.
Just wondering on thursday night. Is it actually a clickfest with bank cards at the ready, or does it come from our betfair poker account? thanks.
I would just like to say that I posted a comment on here on Wednesday that was meant in jest but that has upset the hard-working APAT administrators.
As is now clear to everyone, these guys have obviously put in much work and effort into the organisation of Season 4 and so I would like to apologise to all those concerned if my comments upset you.
Hopefully, this will not affect what I have always regarded as a good relationship that I have with you guys so once again, my humble apologies.
Betfair gave me $30 for nowt not so long back which is sound in my book. Like Swinebag says theres nowt wrong with the software ive played on there quite a bit finding the mtts to ne pretty crap ( struggle for runners ) but cash games+ev & never had any probs.
1 question. What is the reason from swapping from Cardiff to Swansea?
woop woop love it
With Estonia right next to Latvia on the map, I think its safe to expect BOINGBLITZ will receive a Beckham-esque
reception at the airport having taken down the 2008 Latvian Open. Enjoy the groupies mate. ;D
With Estonia right next to Latvia on the map, I think its safe to expect BOINGBLITZ will receive a Beckham-esque
reception at the airport having taken down the 2008 Latvian Open. Enjoy the groupies mate. ;D
Well done Des and Co :o :o
Look forward to S4.
Might i suggest a free entry to the Southern European Event in Spain
to the current Spanish Open champion whoever that may be. ;D ;D
This has probably been answered elsewhere on the forum so I'm sorry if it's a repeated question but I've just looked on Betfair and there are 3 APAT tournaments tomorrow at 8pm, Apat online league div 1, 2 and 3. They're taking registration now with password but no-ones actually registered. I didn't think it started until 7th march.
This has probably been answered elsewhere on the forum so I'm sorry if it's a repeated question but I've just looked on Betfair and there are 3 APAT tournaments tomorrow at 8pm, Apat online league div 1, 2 and 3. They're taking registration now with password but no-ones actually registered. I didn't think it started until 7th march.
Yep, that"s how keen Betfair Poker are to get the season going. ;D
First Online National League matchday is Sunday 7th March as you quite rightly state.
Dear Des,
I see that the Worlds at DTD finish on the 31st August. Is that right? It"s the day after the Bank Holiday when everyone will be back at work. Have I got the dates wrong (it is late!).
Thanks again for an excellent S4! Sadly I can"t make the Wales affair (40th Bday event), but I hope to see you at the Vic.
Dear Des,
I see that the Worlds at DTD finish on the 31st August. Is that right? It"s the day after the Bank Holiday when everyone will be back at work. Have I got the dates wrong (it is late!).
Thanks again for an excellent S4! Sadly I can"t make the Wales affair (40th Bday event), but I hope to see you at the Vic.
Good spot Joe - we were just testing you all. :D
All comms with DTD have the WCOAP festival running between the Thursday and Bank Holiday Monday. This one slipped through and we will correct on our calendar!! Do you want a job? ;)
Quick question;
Will our new sponsor be providing a market on the poker events?
That could be very interesting...
Betfair gave me $30 for nowt not so long back which is sound in my book. Like Swinebag says theres nowt wrong with the software ive played on there quite a bit finding the mtts to ne pretty crap ( struggle for runners ) but cash games+ev & never had any probs.
1 question. What is the reason from swapping from Cardiff to Swansea?
Probably the same reason it switched from Edinburgh to Aberdeen instead of Glasgow.
Got to give those "cities" that have nowt else to shout about a chance every now and then.
Equal opportunities innit :-X
Hear good things about G Aberdeen too. The alternative would have been Dundee. IMO that would have been trickier to get to than Aberdeen and Ironside would still get there anyway.
Am playing on Betfair at the moment.....Can"t see ANYTHING APAT related. Am I looking in the wrong place ?
just thought there may have been some recognition of APAT.
brilliant news well done des n the team. will ave to miss the first one till i get back to uk next week to open up account but don care wats one out of all of these dates in season 4 cant wait. well done in putting austria back in orange wings love it lol woop woop
Finally, how do I get into one of the teams for the team events? Do I have to be invited? Or start up a new team?
AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP
2 day events - £75 buy in - unless stated
20/3 - Welsh Amateur Championship - Aspers, Swansea
AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP
2 day events - £75 buy in - unless stated
20/3 - Welsh Amateur Championship - Aspers, Swansea
I think i might have asked a simillar question in another thread but are we still able to get more than one ticket, as we have been able to do in the past few years? As a friend of mine who has no landline/internet is interested in coming to an APAT event and i"ve told him i"d try my best
AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP
2 day events - £75 buy in - unless stated
20/3 - Welsh Amateur Championship - Aspers, Swansea
Man Utd vs Liverpool on Day 2... 13.30pm kick off....should be fun
intersted in estonia sounds like a hoot!!!
do we know which casino is hosting event and which city, as estonia is a big place?
intersted in estonia sounds like a hoot!!!
do we know which casino is hosting event and which city, as estonia is a big place?
It"s not really.
It"s actually quite small and there"s only one proper city as far as I"m aware.
intersted in estonia sounds like a hoot!!!
do we know which casino is hosting event and which city, as estonia is a big place?
It"s not really.
It"s actually quite small and there"s only one proper city as far as I"m aware.
Yeah....but it has lots of casinos...over a dozen, I believe
AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP
2 day events - £75 buy in - unless stated
20/3 - Welsh Amateur Championship - Aspers, Swansea
Man Utd vs Liverpool on Day 2... 13.30pm kick off....should be fun
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/Doyourow/IMG_0140.jpg)
"Oh splendid, Liverpool appear to have scored and in the nick of time too." -- Scouse, Walsall - Feb 2009.
AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP
2 day events - £75 buy in - unless stated
20/3 - Welsh Amateur Championship - Aspers, Swansea
Man Utd vs Liverpool on Day 2... 13.30pm kick off....should be fun
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t189/Doyourow/IMG_0140.jpg)
"Oh splendid, Liverpool appear to have scored and in the nick of time too." -- Scouse, Walsall - Feb 2009.
nothing beats it!
intersted in estonia sounds like a hoot!!!
do we know which casino is hosting event and which city, as estonia is a big place?
It"s not really.
It"s actually quite small and there"s only one proper city as far as I"m aware.
Yeah....but it has lots of casinos...over a dozen, I believe
The Omaha comp for Saturday, when will it appear in the lobby or have I just not seen it ?
The Omaha comp for Saturday, when will it appear in the lobby or have I just not seen it ?
Will be up a little later in the week, so as not to confuse people.
We have a lot of tourneys crammed into one week. This is a one off, then tournaments will appear a bit more in advance.
hi des have you got the payouts for the swansea 100 runner £75 main event and the 50 runner £250 pro event thanks
hi des have you got the payouts for the swansea 100 runner £75 main event and the 50 runner £250 pro event thanks
i know you have allot to do but would be nice 2 know before the sats this week
hi des have you got the payouts for the swansea 100 runner £75 main event and the 50 runner £250 pro event thanks
i know you have allot to do but would be nice 2 know before the sats this week
Al,
£75 Amateur event will be standard APAT National payout structure. Basically flat until 4th, then increases for 3rd, 2nd, and 1st
£250 Pro event will have a more structured payout, similar to one you would normally see in other open live events.
I can"t give you exact details at the moment, but assume 10% of field will cash.
Leigh
I know you are busy with lots of stuff to sort out this week, but I was just wondering, what is the capital of Uzbekistan?
Sorry if this has been asked already.
On a side note, Tashkent is a popular destination for the Brits, with Tim Henman winning the Tashkent Tennis Open in both 1997 and 1998.
wp Tim
On a side note, Tashkent is a popular destination for the Brits, with Tim Henman winning the Tashkent Tennis Open in both 1997 and 1998.
wp Tim
or you could have put this which will be of more interest and helpfull informantion on Uzbekistan
http://www.orexca.com/restaurants_patricks.shtml
26/8 - World Amateur Heads Up Championship - DTD, Nottingham - 1 day - £50
26/8 - World Amateur Team Championship - DTD, Nottingham - £100
27/8 - World Amateur Stud Championship - DTD, Nottingham - 1 day - £50
28/8 - World Amateur Omaha Championship - DTD, Nottingham - 1 day - £50
29/8 - World Amateur Six Max Championship - DTD, Nottingham - 1 day - £50
30/8 - World Amateur Poker Championship - DTD, Nottingham - 3 day - £100 - 414 runners
30/8 - World Amateur HORSE Championship - DTD, Nottingham - 1 day - £50
Didn't they close last year on the BH?
I would say that with a 414 field it would be a 3 day event not 1a, 1b, 2day
26/8 - World Amateur Heads Up Championship - DTD, Nottingham - 1 day - £50
26/8 - World Amateur Team Championship - DTD, Nottingham - £100
27/8 - World Amateur Stud Championship - DTD, Nottingham - 1 day - £50
28/8 - World Amateur Omaha Championship - DTD, Nottingham - 1 day - £50
29/8 - World Amateur Six Max Championship - DTD, Nottingham - 1 day - £50
30/8 - World Amateur Poker Championship - DTD, Nottingham - 3 day - £100 - 414 runners
30/8 - World Amateur HORSE Championship - DTD, Nottingham - 1 day - £50
Des, just to get my head straight...are these days right now?
I"m assuming the World Amateur Poker Championship is actually..
28/8 (Sat) - World Amateur Poker Championship - DTD, Nottingham - Day 1a
29/8 (Sun) - World Amateur Poker Championship - DTD, Nottingham - Day 1b
30/8 (Mon) - World Amateur Poker Championship - DTD, Nottingham - Day 2 (Final)
Correct
| Thursday 26th August | Team Championship - Day 1 | Heads Up Championship |
| Friday 27th August | Team Championship - Day 2 | Stud Championship |
| Saturday 28th August | World Amateur Championship - Day 1a | Omaha Championship |
| Sunday 29th August | World Amateur Championship - Day 1b | Six max Championship |
| Monday 30th August | World Amateur Championship - Day 2 | HORSE Championship |
are the teams playing in this the same as last team event in manchester
Does the online league still have a live final now that you can declare a premier division champion? Are there prizes for both?
tanks lee
are the teams playing in this the same as last team event in manchester
No, this will follow the structure of the European Team Event from previous seasons. So effectively, 16 countries, with a captain selecting their team.
The UK Team event will be held in Bolton in January 2011. That will be the same as the Manchester one was from season 3.
What"s the online team championship?
Does the online league still have a live final now that you can declare a premier division champion? Are there prizes for both?
There is no "live" or "grand" final now, with league positions deciding champions and promotion and relegation.
We have potential to add other competitions into the league structure, but not for this season. I think there"s enough going on at the moment. ;D
Does the online league still have a live final now that you can declare a premier division champion? Are there prizes for both?
There is no "live" or "grand" final now, with league positions deciding champions and promotion and relegation.
We have potential to add other competitions into the league structure, but not for this season. I think there"s enough going on at the moment. ;D
room for a Cup competiton?
What"s the online team championship?
Ahhhh, work in progress for me.
Not wishing to sound like Des, but I will have to leave you to speculate, as an announcement will be coming soon. ;)
Great work on the new format! Is there a google calendar like last season? Makes planning everything a million times easier.
What"s the online team championship?
Ahhhh, work in progress for me.
Not wishing to sound like Des, but I will have to leave you to speculate, as an announcement will be coming soon. ;)
I humbly request to not have another forum team championship, as a lot of APATers are excluded from these.
I humbly request to not have another forum team championship, as a lot of APATers are excluded from these.
Great work on the new format! Is there a google calendar like last season? Makes planning everything a million times easier.
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=5174.0
I humbly request to not have another forum team championship, as a lot of APATers are excluded from these.
A lot of APATers are "excluded" from other live events by not being able to get a seat, not wanting to play "Speciality Games", travel issues etc..
The Forum Team Challenge is a means of spreading the news of, and drumming up interest in, APAT across the interwebz and in areas where it otherwise might not reach. And it"s only one comp. There are plenty of others.
There were 20 forums represented last time, not everyone who wanted to play from those forums (fora?) were chosed so they were excluded too.
I had, originally, excluded myself from my forums team (sorry, the forum to which I belong, not "my" forum) but was able to get in as a late sub. Not that I covered myself in glory going out second to a 2 outer on the turn.
In the end, the answer is simple, if you want to play in the team comp, join a forum, even the APAT forum would do, post more, become well known and get picked.
I humbly request to not have another forum team championship, as a lot of APATers are excluded from these.
A lot of APATers are "excluded" from other live events by not being able to get a seat, not wanting to play "Speciality Games", travel issues etc..
The Forum Team Challenge is a means of spreading the news of, and drumming up interest in, APAT across the interwebz and in areas where it otherwise might not reach. And it"s only one comp. There are plenty of others.
There were 20 forums represented last time, not everyone who wanted to play from those forums (fora?) were chosed so they were excluded too.
I had, originally, excluded myself from my forums team (sorry, the forum to which I belong, not "my" forum) but was able to get in as a late sub. Not that I covered myself in glory going out second to a 2 outer on the turn.
In the end, the answer is simple, if you want to play in the team comp, join a forum, even the APAT forum would do, post more, become well known and get picked.
Interesting comment here Paulie.
Why would an individual neccessarily need to become "well known" to represent a forum that they may be a member of if say, their results were good enough to merit a spot if that was the chosen criteria of that particular forum?
Also, was this/would this be a factor in choosing which forums would gain entry to the team competition, "you"re only a small forum and not well known, so you have a lesser chance of obtaining a spot in the team comp?"
What was the method used for choosing which 20 teams would participate in last years forum team comp?
Geo
QuoteIn the end, the answer is simple, if you want to play in the team comp, join a forum, even the APAT forum would do, post more, become well known and get picked.
Interesting comment here Paulie.
Why would an individual neccessarily need to become "well known" to represent a forum that they may be a member of if say, their results were good enough to merit a spot if that was the chosen criteria of that particular forum?
Also, was this/would this be a factor in choosing which forums would gain entry to the team competition, "you"re only a small forum and not well known, so you have a lesser chance of obtaining a spot in the team comp?"
What was the method used for choosing which 20 teams would participate in last years forum team comp?
Geo
QuoteIn the end, the answer is simple, if you want to play in the team comp, join a forum, even the APAT forum would do, post more, become well known and get picked.
Interesting comment here Paulie.
Why would an individual neccessarily need to become "well known" to represent a forum that they may be a member of if say, their results were good enough to merit a spot if that was the chosen criteria of that particular forum?
Also, was this/would this be a factor in choosing which forums would gain entry to the team competition, "you"re only a small forum and not well known, so you have a lesser chance of obtaining a spot in the team comp?"
What was the method used for choosing which 20 teams would participate in last years forum team comp?
Geo
You have a point, I was just trying to make the point that the Team comp is different from the other Nationals. It"s entirely there to drum up interest and spread the word about APAT. I believe that Des made that comment. (With apologies if I"m mis-remembering).
How each forum chooses their team is down to them and by their nature they"ll tend to be cliquey and the internal politics bore me too.
As for how the individual forums are selected, the criteria are based on the reasons for the comp. By that reasoning, the tendency is to "pre-select" (if you will) the larger forums.
Therefore THM, Blonde, APAT, Punterslounge etc., being nationally based, get "preference".
As I said, it"s a different comp from all the others...more of a "marketing" thing than anything else.
Personally I believe the only "givens" should be an APAT team (being the organisers) and the previous winners. After that a draw between all forums expressing an interest that can prove they can provide a team.
QuoteIn the end, the answer is simple, if you want to play in the team comp, join a forum, even the APAT forum would do, post more, become well known and get picked.
Interesting comment here Paulie.
Why would an individual neccessarily need to become "well known" to represent a forum that they may be a member of if say, their results were good enough to merit a spot if that was the chosen criteria of that particular forum?
Also, was this/would this be a factor in choosing which forums would gain entry to the team competition, "you"re only a small forum and not well known, so you have a lesser chance of obtaining a spot in the team comp?"
What was the method used for choosing which 20 teams would participate in last years forum team comp?
Geo
You have a point, I was just trying to make the point that the Team comp is different from the other Nationals. It"s entirely there to drum up interest and spread the word about APAT. I believe that Des made that comment. (With apologies if I"m mis-remembering).
How each forum chooses their team is down to them and by their nature they"ll tend to be cliquey and the internal politics bore me too.
As for how the individual forums are selected, the criteria are based on the reasons for the comp. By that reasoning, the tendency is to "pre-select" (if you will) the larger forums.
Therefore THM, Blonde, APAT, Punterslounge etc., being nationally based, get "preference".
As I said, it"s a different comp from all the others...more of a "marketing" thing than anything else.
This is precisely why the question was asked. On one hand we say it is to encourage others but on the other we say that preference is given to these forums due to their numbers, however these are predominantly APATERS anyway.
Personally I believe the only "givens" should be an APAT team (being the organisers) and the previous winners. After that a draw between all forums expressing an interest that can prove they can provide a team.
Geo
Personally I tried to get onto a forum team for the last two years: the first year I was highest placed in their league but too low profile on the forum, the second year I was too high profile. Got sick of it after that. Likewise the first team for a lot of Edinburgh APATers would be Officepoker, who I guess weren"t high enough profile last time, which instantly excludes about half the Edinburgh online team. I"m very enthusiastic about APAT in general, love the ethos, but politics wearies me.
Having said that, there were still teams with much smaller "bases" represented.
They may be more likely to get switched round year on year - but a smaller forum/team is not necessarily going to miss out on the team events.
Like Paulie said if anyone disagrees with how any particular forum picks a team then that"s a matter to bring up their forum rather than here anyway.
And it"s not like the team championship is instead of an open championship - if it didn"t take place, it"d just save the sponsor a bit of money. So there"s no actual loss to anybody who doesn"t take part in it, there just isn"t any gain.
If anybody does feel really strongly about it though - I think the best protest they could make would be to boycott it
I don"t think wholesale changes would be a good idea - after all you don"t get 10 teams at a time being relegated and promoted from the Premiership do you.
I haven"t looked at exactly what effect it would have but I would expect something like the top 5 teams get invited back plus the team that all 9 of the final table individuals represented would be a good idea
In theory that would mean a maximum of 15 players (including APAT) and the rest could be changed but obviously in practice there would be an overlap
Any more than that then you would lose too much continuity from year to year.
NB: Rio, glad you appreciated my boycotting advice ;D
I haven"t looked at exactly what effect it would have but I would expect something like the top 5 teams get invited back plus the team that all 9 of the final table individuals represented would be a good idea
I humbly request to not have another forum team championship, as a lot of APATers are excluded from these.
A lot of APATers are "excluded" from other live events by not being able to get a seat, not wanting to play "Speciality Games", travel issues etc..
The Forum Team Challenge is a means of spreading the news of, and drumming up interest in, APAT across the interwebz and in areas where it otherwise might not reach. And it"s only one comp. There are plenty of others.
There were 20 forums represented last time, not everyone who wanted to play from those forums (fora?) were chosed so they were excluded too.
I had, originally, excluded myself from my forums team (sorry, the forum to which I belong, not "my" forum) but was able to get in as a late sub. Not that I covered myself in glory going out second to a 2 outer on the turn.
In the end, the answer is simple, if you want to play in the team comp, join a forum, even the APAT forum would do, post more, become well known and get picked.
Interesting comment here Paulie.
Why would an individual neccessarily need to become "well known" to represent a forum that they may be a member of if say, their results were good enough to merit a spot if that was the chosen criteria of that particular forum?
Also, was this/would this be a factor in choosing which forums would gain entry to the team competition, "you"re only a small forum and not well known, so you have a lesser chance of obtaining a spot in the team comp?"
What was the method used for choosing which 20 teams would participate in last years forum team comp?
Geo
Agree with Geo, seems that this could be very cliquey in that the most frequent posters are picked with the better performing players being over looked.
Personally a live team event based on the online teams from all divisions with the best performing players representing their team would make more sense. Just my twopenneth anyways.
I haven"t looked at exactly what effect it would have but I would expect something like the top 5 teams get invited back plus the team that all 9 of the final table individuals represented would be a good idea
I"m not sure what you mean by this Jon, surely the 9 players on the FT would have come from a number of teams?
So, let"s for arguments sake, say 9 teams each get 1 player to the FT, when those players come back, what forum do they represent in the following year"s comp which is, after all, primarily a team game?
By all means let APAT and the previous winning forum (if different) get guaranteed places in the next comp but after that, let Des et al decide who they want in.
Do a clean sweep and let all new forums in or whatever, I think we all trust them to do what"s right for the majority and APAT as a whole.
I"m of the opinion (obviously) that this comp is different from all the other offerings from APAT, put on for different reasons, and normal criteria of fairness in selection do not, necessarily, have to be applied.
I think what Jon is saying is that any team that had a player FT gets a place.
I think what Jon is saying is that any team that had a player FT gets a place.
That"s what I thought originally but that could lead (potentially) to upwards of 11 teams returning. Uproar ensues!
He referred later to 15 players coming back...which is what confused me.
There"s clearly no easy answer that will make everyone happy...
...
If we are correct in our assumption about what Jon was saying, it"s possible for a team to get a single player to the FT with no others scoring points (my forum did exactly that this year IIRC).
While I""d be happy to come back on that basis, is it really fair that my team comes back on the basis of a single player?
As I said, uproar ensues!
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is there a cickfest for the welsh pro game £250 on betfair or how do i register to play.
plh is much preferred so no donkeys can push all in with favorite hands like 10 J off
let me know guys how to get in
cheers
an official has advised -- he"s good isn"t he
an official has advised -- he"s good isn"t he
Hello people.
I"m new on this forum and want to say hey.
I"ve a question about the APAT tournament in Estonia. (I"m sorry if the question has been asked before).
Is it possible for me and my friend to buy us directly into the tournament in Estonia (75£)? And if yes, when is it possible?
We"re planning to order fly tickets and hotel and want to be sure that we can play the tournament before we order.
Really hope you can help me on this one ;)
Regards,
Andreas
Hello people.
I"m new on this forum and want to say hey.
I"ve a question about the APAT tournament in Estonia. (I"m sorry if the question has been asked before).
Is it possible for me and my friend to buy us directly into the tournament in Estonia (75£)? And if yes, when is it possible?
We"re planning to order fly tickets and hotel and want to be sure that we can play the tournament before we order.
Really hope you can help me on this one ;)
Regards,
Andreas
Hi welcome to APAT and the forum
Yes it will be possible to buy in direct but not yet..we need to finalise things with the venue first.
I will message you on here when we have a date
Betfair are quite keen on Tallinn
Noticed quite a few satelittes for betfair live.
And with it being the capital city and therefore easily accessible?
Betfair are quite keen on Tallinn
And with it being the capital city and therefore easily accessible?
Hope you can help me. This thread states that the Welsh Open is at Aspers - the calender states Grosvenor.
Can you confirm which please.
Thanks
Betfair are quite keen on Tallinn
Noticed quite a few satelittes for betfair live.
And with it being the capital city and therefore easily accessible?
Yes
Olympic Casino Tallinn would be a good bet. Been to the Olympic Casino in Riga (decor made it resemble Fred Flintstone"s cave, but who am I to complain?). We"ll be in for a good time if the two are comparable
We are finalising the dates for the Google Calendar. Clickfest for UK Championship events will be March 11.
It is not a clickfest..
We are finalising the dates for the Google Calendar. Clickfest for UK Championship events will be March 11.
We are finalising the dates for the Google Calendar. Clickfest for UK Championship events will be March 11.
quick question if I may.... does the "clickfest priority" apply same way as last year? ie top 10 in rankings, and reigning champion, are guaranteed a seat option?
Any reason the schedule etc still can"t be seen when clicking ""tour dates"" on the front page?
Hear good things about G Aberdeen too. The alternative would have been Dundee. IMO that would have been trickier to get to than Aberdeen and Ironside would still get there anyway.
FYP
;)
Apologies if this has been mentioned (don"t fancy trawling through 23 pages) before but does anyone know where in Austria the European event will be held?
Apologies if this has been mentioned (don"t fancy trawling through 23 pages) before but does anyone know where in Austria the European event will be held?
Betting is on Weiner Neustadt at the PokerRoyale (http://www.pokerroyale.at/) but nothing is known for certain.
Apologies if this has been mentioned (don"t fancy trawling through 23 pages) before but does anyone know where in Austria the European event will be held?
Betting is on Weiner Neustadt at the PokerRoyale (http://www.pokerroyale.at/) but nothing is known for certain.
Thanking you
Not Wiener Neustadt. Not certain but hoping Concord, Vienna
Not Wiener Neustadt. Not certain but hoping Concord, Vienna
How and where can you register for the United Kingdom Amateur Championship at the vic?
How and where can you register for the United Kingdom Amateur Championship at the vic?
Satellites for this event are on Betfair now.
Satellites are Monday 15th, Tuesday 16th and Wednesday 17th. All at 8pm
Direct sale will be through Betfair Poker at 9pm on Thursday 18th March.
Good Luck in getting a seat.
How are the seats for the specialist series being sold? What happens if you have a seat in the main event and specialist,then make it to day 2 in the main?
seeing that there are 7 tournaments at the live world amateur championships does anyone know are the tournaments going to be sold all at once or on different days.
How are the seats for the specialist series being sold? What happens if you have a seat in the main event and specialist,then make it to day 2 in the main?
Current information is that the Specialist Series seats will be sold Saturday/Sunday at the venue only.
They are primarily intended for players busting out of the main event. If you make Day 2, you would have to unreg from the Specialist Series....I do not believe that multi-tabling will be permitted.
I want to play in the Razz tourney on 18/4 is there any way I could reserve or pre-reg without travelling to the venue either: making a special journey the day before or on the day and possibly not getting in?
any idea on max. runners for this particular tourney?
I want to play in the Razz tourney on 18/4 is there any way I could reserve or pre-reg without travelling to the venue either: making a special journey the day before or on the day and possibly not getting in?
Basically...No. You would have to make the trip. I am not aware of any plans to extend online registration to the Specialist Series.
The basic premise was that the Specialist Series was intended to give the players who had busted out of the Main Event something to do on the Sunday especially if they had travelled long distances. Of course, they have generated a lot of interest from members who are not playing the ME but that was the original intention.
any idea on max. runners for this particular tourney?
I believe that the Specialist Series events are limited to 50 runners.
Do you know who manages the registrations?, if I wanted to travel up on the day and take a chance can I ring in advance and find out how many places are left?
Or can someone register on my behalf?
We"ll manage a list on Saturday afternoon for APAT players to put their names down for the Sunday event
With the option to withdraw if they make Day 2
We"ll then pass that onto the casino on Saturday night
The list will then be opened up to all comers on Sunday morning at which point the casino will be holding the names until toruney is full
We"ll see how it goes this weekend but that"s the plan
No plans at all for remote entries/entries via friends. It"s primarily for Day 1 bustees.
Any idea of number of runners pls? Looks like holding tank has been removed
Any idea of number of runners pls? Looks like holding tank has been removed
a full 100 for the Amateur
16 for the Pro. This will be open on the day, clearly and haver contacted a number of the Welsh "circuit" players to let them know about it. Great value for those playing though clearly disappointing in other respects
The effect of my promoting has been negligible, you are safe stable-master!
I don"t think there has been one. Sorry. No excuses apart from hecticness I expect
What do you need to know?
I don"t think there has been one. Sorry. No excuses apart from hecticness I expect
What do you need to know?
7. Who invented liquid soap..and why?
7. Who invented liquid soap..and why?
Pretty sure Duke"s coming with the answer to this one. He said he"d got it in hand.
I am massively excited by the way!
16 for the Pro. This will be open on the day, clearly and haver contacted a number of the Welsh "circuit" players to let them know about it. Great value for those playing though clearly disappointing in other respects
Is there a player briefing appearing for this weekend or not.
I am massively excited by the way!
By liquid soap Stu ?
What will the buy in be on the day for the pro event?
What will be the prize structure for Swansea with only 100 entrants.
So it will still pay top 20 and not top 10%
What will the buy in be on the day for the pro event?
Interesting...£250 SHOULD be tha answer but I recall that the exact figure was different due to currency fluctuations and was in the £257 area.
Assume £250 and bring an extra £10 just in case.
People buying on the day will pay £250
As the holding tank has been taken down there simply isn"t the option to withdraw and pay in on the day
However, as this is a new process, with new procedures for us and players (and of course a first ever APAT non sell out) I"ll note this down for event 2 and investigate the holding tank/taken down issue for then
I"ve bought in online thats the problem.
I would rather unreg now and buy in on the day but betfair have taken the holding tank away.
I"ve bought in online thats the problem.
I would rather unreg now and buy in on the day but betfair have taken the holding tank away.
I don"t understand, why would you reg online, unreg and then buy-in at the casino?
People buying on the day will pay £250
As the holding tank has been taken down there simply isn"t the option to withdraw and pay in on the day
However, as this is a new process, with new procedures for us and players (and of course a first ever APAT non sell out) I"ll note this down for event 2 and investigate the holding tank/taken down issue for then
I"ll mail Betfair Rich but I don"t think this is right that Betfair have taken this money what about people who now cannot make it? As well as the ones cheesed off by their appalling exchange rates
People buying on the day will pay £250
As the holding tank has been taken down there simply isn"t the option to withdraw and pay in on the day
However, as this is a new process, with new procedures for us and players (and of course a first ever APAT non sell out) I"ll note this down for event 2 and investigate the holding tank/taken down issue for then
I"ll mail Betfair Rich but I don"t think this is right that Betfair have taken this money what about people who now cannot make it? As well as the ones cheesed off by their appalling exchange rates
correction, we"ll charge £257 for those buying in on the day. Just had a management conflab!
As to the holding tanks, we are taking that up with Betfair
People buying on the day will pay £250
As the holding tank has been taken down there simply isn"t the option to withdraw and pay in on the day
However, as this is a new process, with new procedures for us and players (and of course a first ever APAT non sell out) I"ll note this down for event 2 and investigate the holding tank/taken down issue for then
I"ll mail Betfair Rich but I don"t think this is right that Betfair have taken this money what about people who now cannot make it? As well as the ones cheesed off by their appalling exchange rates
correction, we"ll charge £257 for those buying in on the day. Just had a management conflab!
As to the holding tanks, we are taking that up with Betfair
Can I have my 4 quid back then please? It was £261.39 if I remember correctly. You can keep the 39p.
Just a question regarding london,
On betfair 100 players registered for tourney plus 10 seats with betfair I think ???? ???
making 110 in total , is this the total amount able to play as I thought the VIC is a lot bigger than aspers ???
More than likely wrong but can anyone clarify please LOL thanks :D
Just a question regarding london,
On betfair 100 players registered for tourney plus 10 seats with betfair I think ???? ???
making 110 in total , is this the total amount able to play as I thought the VIC is a lot bigger than aspers ???
More than likely wrong but can anyone clarify please LOL thanks :D
It hasn"t sold out yet.
Yes, it will have 150 or so runners, once it sells out
Just a question regarding london,
On betfair 100 players registered for tourney plus 10 seats with betfair I think ???? ???
making 110 in total , is this the total amount able to play as I thought the VIC is a lot bigger than aspers ???
More than likely wrong but can anyone clarify please LOL thanks :D
It hasn"t sold out yet.
Yes, it will have 150 or so runners, once it sells out
It is not accepting anymore entries Rich. Wasn"t available for the clickfest last night and just tried to reg when I seen the above post. Still showing only 100 regged. But when I try to reg it gives the "no more room in tourney" message.
If there are more can I please register a request for 1 as I have tried tonite.
Geo
I know everyones a little busy this weekend, but if some clarification could be made soon, as I also have a few mates who may want to attend at the Vic.
Anyone know what"s happening with the season 3 medals which haven"t yet been handed over/posted?
It sold out to 50 runners
Some people got in on the day, though the safest way is to get in when it"s opened up at 4pm on the Saturday
I think the Razz will sell out. A popular but rare game likely to appeal to APATers and Vic locals
Sadly not, as the Vic car park attendants will not tether his horse.
Any word on numbers for tomorrow"s Razz tourney?
TIA
Any word on numbers for tomorrow"s Razz tourney?
TIA
It"a selling out reasonably well I believe.
Any word on numbers for tomorrow"s Razz tourney?
TIA
It"a selling out reasonably well I believe.
Looks like it was only 60% sold, what a joke.
People were prepared to support this event but couldn"t enter without making the venue in person 24 hours before the start.
While being at the Vic probably was the only "guaranteed" way to ensure a seat, on reading back I think it was referred to as being the "safest" and reported numbers were encouraging. At no point did anyone say the competition was full.
It"s unfortunate that the cost of travel for you to just play this event was -EV for you but, with respect, you are not the intended market.
It"s been stated many times that the original intention of these "Specialist" games was that they were put in place for bustouts from the main tournament. Many people travel long distances to play these events often at great expense and having an additional "side" event was intended to increase the value to THEM.
As for what you could have done to "convince the organisers of your seriousness"... from what I can see, you just asked a few general questions.
I would echo a previous poster and respectfully suggest a less adversarial approach.
When will this be confirmed?
I want to play in the Razz tourney on 18/4 is there any way I could reserve or pre-reg without travelling to the venue either: making a special journey the day before or on the day and possibly not getting in?
I won"t be playing in the 2 day event, any idea on max. runners for this particular tourney?
Thanks,
Billy
Can anyone give any feedback on the Swansea specialist tourney, was it sold out / well attended?
Did anyone get in on the day?
The reason I"m interested is because I want to play in the Razz tourney in London next month, I reckon Razz is the least popular poker variant going so any info will help.
Thanks in advance.
Sun 20th 14:30 Specialist Series NLHE (Aberdeen)
Is this just a normal mtt then? capped at 50?
Sun 20th 14:30 Specialist Series NLHE (Aberdeen)
Is this just a normal mtt then? capped at 50?
Yep, and with added APAT Pro League Seat valooooooooo
MEDALS MEDALS DID I HERE SOMEONE SAY MEDALS :o
Haveing played and luckly won the side event in Swansea! I think that APAT are offering the best package in amatuer poker. I wish I could play more events as I think the organisation and sports man ship is next to non. I have played on other higher buy in tourneys and not enjoyed them half as much as the APAT evets. The only problem with APAT is I still have no medals lol. Keep up the great work Des, Leigh, Tighty, and the new lovely lady!!!