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Title: Cash game decision...
Post by: pokerpops on March 08, 2010, 14:32:43 PM
Casino 50p/£1 game. 8 handed we"ve been playing for about an hour and a half and most are playing less than full stacks.

It"s been straddled to £2 and first to act shoves his last £20 in. Two folds and then another shortstack tosses in his £18.50. On me - I have 77 and am playing just over £200 having started with £50.

Three players behind me, two of whom have simialr size stacks to mine and are likely to get involved here if given the chance.

Options..

Fold? I could be dominated by at least one overpair, at best I"m facing anything up to 4 overcards.
Call? as above, but with the added risk of one of the players left to act reraising
Raise? How much?

All answers and observations appreciated. I"m not a regular live cash player, although given the way that table played last night I suspect i should be  ;D
Title: Re: Cash game decision...
Post by: AMRN on March 08, 2010, 14:59:14 PM
I may be way too nitty, but figure that 77 doesn"t stand up too well against two opponents holding potentially four overcards, or even an overpair.... and with a pot brewing up, and people still to act behind me, I fold here.
Title: Re: Cash game decision...
Post by: Marty719 on March 08, 2010, 15:04:22 PM
Trivial snap-fold imo.
Title: Re: Cash game decision...
Post by: LongshanksED on March 08, 2010, 15:13:20 PM
I"d insta fold

your getting nowhere near the price to set mine either and even if they have k j and ace queen your unlikely to be good come the river
Title: Re: Cash game decision...
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on March 08, 2010, 15:53:11 PM
Fold
Title: Re: Cash game decision...
Post by: WYoung83 on March 08, 2010, 17:24:47 PM
 Trouble with cash games, is that most players dont sit deep enough which i really hate, and theres no point straddling unless you have 200 BBs imo. Most players just straddle because they think its cool, but then the same idiot probably only has 50BBs in front of him.
Anyway, i think i would call, two players behind you have 200bbs so you dont mind taking a flop against them, and i would even want to drag them in, because flopping a set with them in could be nice. but obviously fold to a big raise behind me.
Title: Re: Cash game decision...
Post by: shozboy1 on March 08, 2010, 17:42:36 PM
easy fold
Title: Re: Cash game decision...
Post by: bear21 on March 08, 2010, 18:21:29 PM
+1
Title: Re: Cash game decision...
Post by: pokerpops on March 09, 2010, 05:59:06 AM
Thanks - I was pretty sure I was right at the time.

Three players to the flop and they all turned their cards face up...


Initial raiser had Q J, called by J 10 and KQ making my 77 a 2:1 shot...

I was still happy with my fold till the board ran out 6J4... 5...............3
Title: Re: Cash game decision...
Post by: WYoung83 on March 09, 2010, 14:33:55 PM
Thats the reason why i would of called. the way shortstackers play, middle pairs are above their range.
Title: Re: Cash game decision...
Post by: Marty719 on March 09, 2010, 15:21:09 PM

Thats the reason why i would of called. the way shortstackers play, middle pairs are above their range.


This isnt really good - we have to remember the more people in, the higher our reverse implied odds.  Just because we have a set, does not mean we will win the hand.  Think 10% of stack is 100% too much to be calliing off, when there are live players to act behind us who may raise.

Middle pairs may be ahead of their individual ranges, but we dnt have great equity against both of them.
Title: Re: Cash game decision...
Post by: UKChamp on March 11, 2010, 23:23:07 PM

I may be way too nitty, but figure that 77 doesn"t stand up too well against two opponents holding potentially four overcards, or even an overpair.... and with a pot brewing up, and people still to act behind me, I fold here.


ditto