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Title: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on October 30, 2007, 10:22:07 AM
Hi folks, what with Walsall right on top of us now, was just wondering what people wear/use at the poker table in order to help/bring them luck?!

You see alot of players who wear sunglasses, use ipods (normally in early stages) or even bring some sort of lucky item to the table.

Just wondered if anyone uses any of the above or anything else at that matter?!

Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: Philippos13 on October 30, 2007, 10:54:48 AM
Luck is cyclical, in the long run  everyone should get  about the same share of good hands. Nevertheless i would like my share at the late stages of the tourny  :)
Nothing that you take with you will actually bring you any luck and most likely you will develop some kind of tell if you are using a card protector i.e if you are folding or not and frankly i do not see any real use of them. Ipods it is a big no as far as i am concerned as poker is a game of incomplete information and you can use any extra pid of information by listening to what other players have to say. If you really pay attention u will be amazed to how much info other players give without even knowing it.  A good advice would be to keep your mouth shut :-X and your ears open :)
Now thats just me , while i do use some speach play in my game, i do however realize that some players may use ipods in order just to shut out that element of the game. The eyes do give out tells , and some times you can litteraly see the fear in the others eyes , so shades might not be a bad idea ....
To take this a step further i would say anyone who has a favourite hand and that is not  :as: ah  (any suit would do) is just being irrational. You can take jack ten , kings , queens or whatever your favourite hand or your lucky hand is and i ll take ACES every single time. Dont be in denial . Yet one stands to lose a lot with aces , as you should always remeber you are just holding one pair , so knowing when to fold them post flop ,especially when there is enough warning from the sequence of play is a good advice. Do  not get carried away and just because you are holding aces and put all your chips in! Take a minute , think about it, you might be losing and actually if they are cracked you will be in terrible shape, most usually drawing to the 2 remaining aces in the deck.

This is my first poker article  ;D  hehehe any comments??
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on October 30, 2007, 11:37:19 AM

Luck is cyclical, in the long run  everyone should get  about the same share of good hands. Nevertheless i would like my share at the late stages of the tourny  :)
Nothing that you take with you will actually bring you any luck and most likely you will develop some kind of tell if you are using a card protector i.e if you are folding or not and frankly i do not see any real use of them. Ipods it is a big no as far as i am concerned as poker is a game of incomplete information and you can use any extra pid of information by listening to what other players have to say. If you really pay attention u will be amazed to how much info other players give without even knowing it.  A good advice would be to keep your mouth shut :-X and your ears open :)
Now thats just me , while i do use some speach play in my game, i do however realize that some players may use ipods in order just to shut out that element of the game. The eyes do give out tells , and some times you can litteraly see the fear in the others eyes , so shades might not be a bad idea ....
To take this a step further i would say anyone who has a favourite hand and that is not  :as: ah  (any suit would do) is just being irrational. You can take jack ten , kings , queens or whatever your favourite hand or your lucky hand is and i ll take ACES every single time. Dont be in denial . Yet one stands to lose a lot with aces , as you should always remeber you are just holding one pair , so knowing when to fold them post flop ,especially when there is enough warning from the sequence of play is a good advice. Do  not get carried away and just because you are holding aces and put all your chips in! Take a minute , think about it, you might be losing and actually if they are cracked you will be in terrible shape, most usually drawing to the 2 remaining aces in the deck.

This is my first poker article  ;D  hehehe any comments??


look at the writer in you come out eh?! lol
maybe just "lucky items wont help you, ipods bad idea & sunglasses fairly good idea" would have had the same effect tho ;)

Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: Jon MW on October 30, 2007, 13:22:47 PM
I have a lucky hat.

But I"m trying not overuse it - it"s only for the majors - EPT, WSOP, WPT and of course APAT.
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: Phil_Crozier on October 30, 2007, 14:00:53 PM
I wish i had a lucky item but no luck can override my donk play anyway  ;D

i occasionally wear sunglasses not going to in walsall, i might wear a hoody though and will definetly take my ipod.
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: H-Man81 on October 30, 2007, 14:08:42 PM
Am I alone in thinking that Ipods kind of go against a lot of what Apat believes in.  Ok there is a lot of money at stake and everyone wants to do well but the friendly and relaxed atmosphere Apat tournaments strive for is surely negated when people sit there staring straight ahead ignoring everyone around them.  Surely it"s gotta be a bit about the banter?!?
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: Swinebag on October 30, 2007, 14:18:09 PM
from my experience, there is plenty of banter anyway.
At the last one, after I had donked off a load, I stuck my ipod on for a mini sulk.
Dan then announced that I was listening to "no way back" by the foofighters and that my situation wasn"t really that bad.

In short

"ipods do not ruin the banter"
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on October 30, 2007, 14:18:44 PM

Am I alone in thinking that Ipods kind of go against a lot of what Apat believes in.  Ok there is a lot of money at stake and everyone wants to do well but the friendly and relaxed atmosphere Apat tournaments strive for is surely negated when people sit there staring straight ahead ignoring everyone around them.  Surely it"s gotta be a bit about the banter?!?


i see slightly where you are coming from, but this is a game of winning and you do what you can to win. everyone is there to win. if you dont want to win, you wasting a seat ;)
if using a ipod improves concertrasion etc. then fair play, wear one!
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: H-Man81 on October 30, 2007, 15:01:11 PM





i see slightly where you are coming from, but this is a game of winning and you do what you can to win. everyone is there to win. if you dont want to win, you wasting a seat ;)



Believe me I"m not leaving at 7am on Saturday morning for a 5 hour drive to waste the seat (So all note I will be playing supremely tight for first few hours  ;) Since I don"t wear sunglasses or an Ipod, perhaps I can try the waving my hand in front of opponents faces saying "not touching can"t get mad" approach!  ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on October 30, 2007, 15:27:09 PM






i see slightly where you are coming from, but this is a game of winning and you do what you can to win. everyone is there to win. if you dont want to win, you wasting a seat ;)



Believe me I"m not leaving at 7am on Saturday morning for a 5 hour drive to waste the seat (So all note I will be playing supremely tight for first few hours  ;) Since I don"t wear sunglasses or an Ipod, perhaps I can try the waving my hand in front of opponents faces saying "not touching can"t get mad" approach!  ;D


LOL!! as long as it works for you ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: kinboshi on October 30, 2007, 16:23:57 PM

from my experience, there is plenty of banter anyway.
At the last one, after I had donked off a load, I stuck my ipod on for a mini sulk.
Dan then announced that I was listening to "no way back" by the foofighters and that my situation wasn"t really that bad.

In short

"ipods do not ruin the banter"


It wasn"t the most optimistic of tunes to listen to was it?

Come Back by the Foo Fighters would have been a better choice ;D

...or possibly Lucky Man by The Verve, or maybe F.O.D. by Green Day ;)
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: jacklevel06 on October 30, 2007, 17:07:15 PM
I often take a pint to the table.Nothing to do with luck ,more to do with a thirst. ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: Jango on October 30, 2007, 17:16:03 PM
and who could possibly leave out "I Will Survive" by Gloria Gaynor  :-*
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on October 30, 2007, 17:23:47 PM
Ace of Spades by Motorhead could be another ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: monkeyman on October 30, 2007, 20:49:23 PM
Or anything by ex-Marillion bloke Fish  ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on November 01, 2007, 09:54:14 AM
well i will be taking me ipod and wearing sunglasses... ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on November 01, 2007, 14:29:40 PM

well i will be taking me ipod and wearing sunglasses... ;D

ok my new sunglasses ready for saturday have just arrived in the post  ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: PeteMac on November 01, 2007, 14:46:36 PM
I"ll be wearing my lucky hat, sunglasses, i-pod, hoody ......come to think of it, I may even send someone else in my place - who would know!!!!
;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on November 01, 2007, 16:50:08 PM

I"ll be wearing my lucky hat, sunglasses, i-pod, hoody ......come to think of it, I may even send someone else in my place - who would know!!!!
;D


as long as who ever you send is useless then im all for it :P
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: davef86 on November 01, 2007, 17:57:47 PM
Definitely hoody. Gametime decision on the sunglasses and iPod. I"m excited, first APAT event!
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: RioRodent on November 01, 2007, 18:54:21 PM
Look...
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/RioRodent/GrosvenorWalsall.jpg)
Grovesnor Walsall, has a roof and no windows... you won"t need hoodies or sunglasses!!

::)
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: kinboshi on November 01, 2007, 19:36:46 PM
Tall cameraman.
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: Bodddders on November 01, 2007, 19:39:54 PM

Tall cameraman.


Dont be stupid he"s got a big ladder.

I do agree though hoodies, glasses and ipods, waste of time.
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: kinboshi on November 01, 2007, 19:42:20 PM
Was thinking of wearing my shades this weekend.  
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: RioRodent on November 01, 2007, 19:45:21 PM
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=srx2d2gtysmv&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=7434874&encType=1

Excellent site for finding your way around.  :P
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: kinboshi on November 01, 2007, 19:47:23 PM
"Tis a beautiful piece of architecture...
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: RioRodent on November 01, 2007, 19:49:05 PM

Was thinking of wearing my shades this weekend. 


I think this one would suit you -

(http://www.accentshade.com/Quickstart/ImageLib/daffburg.JPG)
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: Bodddders on November 01, 2007, 19:50:05 PM
Did they model it on the Casino in Monte Carlo.
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: kinboshi on November 01, 2007, 19:56:45 PM

Did they model it on a warehouse in Monte Carlo.


FYP
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: kinboshi on November 01, 2007, 19:57:21 PM


Was thinking of wearing my shades this weekend. 


I think this one would suit you -

(http://www.accentshade.com/Quickstart/ImageLib/daffburg.JPG)


You"d lend me yours?  You"re too kind sir.
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on November 01, 2007, 23:35:29 PM

Look...
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/RioRodent/GrosvenorWalsall.jpg)
Grovesnor Walsall, has a roof and no windows... you won"t need hoodies or sunglasses!!

::)


ahh, but what if the roof blew off. then who would look stupid ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: Phil_Crozier on November 02, 2007, 07:42:33 AM
i hear the lights are so bright their rays can damage the eyes and therefore sunglasses may be required, also the air conditioning is so cold you may want to wrap up warm, especially keeping your head/brain warm for key decisions so a hoody is recomended.  ;)
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on November 02, 2007, 09:30:09 AM

i hear the lights are so bright their rays can damage the eyes and therefore sunglasses may be required, also the air conditioning is so cold you may want to wrap up warm, especially keeping your head/brain warm for key decisions so a hoody is recomended.  ;)


and if you have a annoying tw*t on the seat next you - its worth bringing your ipod ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: Paulie_D on November 02, 2007, 09:42:15 AM

Look...
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/RioRodent/GrosvenorWalsall.jpg)
Grovesnor Walsall, has a roof and no windows... you won"t need hoodies or sunglasses!!

::)


I think it"s actually this...

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1202653/Walsall.jpg)


Still not a lot of windows...
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: RioRodent on November 02, 2007, 10:39:42 AM


I think it"s actually this...

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1202653/Walsall.jpg)


Still not a lot of windows...


Enjoy your film... pop over to the casino when it"s over.  ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: Paulie_D on November 02, 2007, 11:12:52 AM
Oops..good to know I"ll have someting to do when I get busted early doors. ;)
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on November 02, 2007, 14:25:45 PM
Another quick one:

ARE YOU ALLOWED TO USE YOUR MOBILE PHONE WHILE PLAYING?

not that i"m going to sit there on me phone, but say i wanted to text someone.
and the main reason is because i want to keep updated online on me phone with the charlton score ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: kinboshi on November 02, 2007, 14:35:31 PM
I don"t know what the rules are (with APAT or Grosvenor), but I think if you use your phone whilst at the table in a hand your cards should be dead.

If you want to use your phone, step away from the table (as you would if you were going to the loo or for a smoke, etc.). 

Just my opinion - not sure at all what the rules are.
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on November 02, 2007, 14:40:26 PM

I don"t know what the rules are (with APAT or Grosvenor), but I think if you use your phone whilst at the table in a hand your cards should be dead.

If you want to use your phone, step away from the table (as you would if you were going to the loo or for a smoke, etc.). 

Just my opinion - not sure at all what the rules are.


point taken, didnt think so. think i will step away from the table at half time and full time. cant now know :P

who told you i would step away from the table to go a loo ;D

ive got them samples for you by the way, so dont forget to grab em from me!
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: kinboshi on November 02, 2007, 15:27:39 PM
Cheers Aaron. 

Talking of stepping away from the table - when I played in the EPT in Copenhagen, you couldn"t smoke at the table, but you could behind the rope that the spectators were stood behind.  This was about 2 yards from where I was sat (so very annoying).

Anyway, the fella who sat to my right on Day 2 (called Simon Mycock) was some sort of chain smoker.  He would play a hand, and then get up step behind the rope light up, have a fag and then come back to the table.  He usually missed a few hands whilst he was away (but that didn"t seem to bother him).  It seemed as though his cigarettes were more important to him than being in every hand.

Shame he wasn"t away from the table for the hand when he knocked me out!  
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on November 02, 2007, 15:38:05 PM

Cheers Aaron. 

Talking of stepping away from the table - when I played in the EPT in Copenhagen, you couldn"t smoke at the table, but you could behind the rope that the spectators were stood behind.  This was about 2 yards from where I was sat (so very annoying).

Anyway, the fella who sat to my right on Day 2 (called Simon Mycock) was some sort of chain smoker.  He would play a hand, and then get up step behind the rope light up, have a fag and then come back to the table.  He usually missed a few hands whilst he was away (but that didn"t seem to bother him).  It seemed as though his cigarettes were more important to him than being in every hand.

Shame he wasn"t away from the table for the hand when he knocked me out!  


oh no, wouldnt be stepping away that much.LOL
just nothing comes before football and i have to know how charlton are doing. will just stap away at half time and full time to get a update  ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: kinboshi on November 02, 2007, 15:39:01 PM
Sorry - thought you said Charlton and football in the same sentence.  Must be a mis-read.

Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on November 02, 2007, 15:55:54 PM

Sorry - thought you said Charlton and football in the same sentence.  Must be a mis-read.


yes you read correctly!! now lets not get personal ;D

so who do you support then?
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: RioRodent on November 02, 2007, 16:23:43 PM


Cheers Aaron. 

Talking of stepping away from the table - when I played in the EPT in Copenhagen, you couldn"t smoke at the table, but you could behind the rope that the spectators were stood behind.  This was about 2 yards from where I was sat (so very annoying).

Anyway, the fella who sat to my right on Day 2 (called Simon Mycock) was some sort of chain smoker.  He would play a hand, and then get up step behind the rope light up, have a fag and then come back to the table.  He usually missed a few hands whilst he was away (but that didn"t seem to bother him).  It seemed as though his cigarettes were more important to him than being in every hand.

Shame he wasn"t away from the table for the hand when he knocked me out!  


oh no, wouldnt be stepping away that much.LOL
just nothing comes before football and i have to know how charlton are doing. will just stap away at half time and full time to get a update  ;D


No need to bother... Half Time - Losing... Full Time - Lost.

;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: asarge on November 02, 2007, 16:25:05 PM
Quote


No need to bother... Half Time - Losing... Full Time - Lost.

;D


oh dear, i am getting it from all angles now!! :(
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: Jon MW on November 02, 2007, 16:46:16 PM

Cheers Aaron. 

Talking of stepping away from the table - when I played in the EPT in Copenhagen, you couldn"t smoke at the table, but you could behind the rope that the spectators were stood behind.  This was about 2 yards from where I was sat (so very annoying).

Anyway, the fella who sat to my right on Day 2 (called Simon Mycock) was some sort of chain smoker.  He would play a hand, and then get up step behind the rope light up, have a fag and then come back to the table.  He usually missed a few hands whilst he was away (but that didn"t seem to bother him).  It seemed as though his cigarettes were more important to him than being in every hand.

Shame he wasn"t away from the table for the hand when he knocked me out!  


There was a similar player playing the WSOP Razz event, from my point of view the advantage there was that they had to leave the building. But he didn"t half miss an awful lot of hands, "It seemed as though his cigarettes were more important to him than being in every hand." was very much the case.

At least I wasn"t bad enough to let him knock me out of the tournament ;D
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: kinboshi on November 02, 2007, 17:30:57 PM
Mycock went on to be chip leader soon after knocking me out - but then it all fell apart for him and he finished about 16th I think. 

Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: Swinebag on November 02, 2007, 17:35:36 PM

Mycock went on to be chip leader soon after knocking me out - but then it all fell apart for him and he finished about 16th I think. 




I assume all the double entendres hav been exhausted elsewhere!

Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: kinboshi on November 03, 2007, 09:52:03 AM


Mycock went on to be chip leader soon after knocking me out - but then it all fell apart for him and he finished about 16th I think. 




I assume all the double entendres hav been exhausted elsewhere!



Absolutely.  They never get boring though if you"ve got a childish sense of humour like me...
Title: Re: Sunglasses, iPods, Lucky items @ the Poker table?!
Post by: biffa85 on November 03, 2007, 10:40:49 AM
I bet he"s never heard any of them anyway..... ;)