Amateur Poker Association & Tour
Archive Boards => Archive => General Live Poker Discussion => Topic started by: LongshanksED on May 08, 2010, 11:17:03 AM
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Local casino has started doing freerolls of sorts!
£2 entry fee but you get 1500 chips and can get an add on or rebuy at the 1st break for £20 and another 5000 chips Seems to get good numbers on these nights and last night was 90 players. Managed to get a healthy stack in the mid stages and glad I did as I went totally card dead and had to fold my way to final table with average stack of 60k and blinds at 4k/8k
top 9 get paid but it"s a 10 man FT and apart from 1 who had 120k in chips we all sat between 50 and 65k when someone suggested we all take £200 each (prize pool was £2040 and £700 for 1st, 4th place pay out was £190) everyone agreed but I suggested we tale £150 each and have a shootout for the final £500 but no one liked that as most of them only paid the £2 fee which I found hard to believe and they liked bring offered more than 4th place money. Tbh I was gunning for at least a 4th place finish anyway to make the payout semi worthwhile but also didn"t fancy going out in 10th for nada or 9th for £30
would you have taken the deal at this crapshoot stage?
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only if i had wanted to go to bed
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Let me put it like this - No!
If you fancy yourself against the table and you"re well-placed in chips, why give it away? I generally hate deals (or giving something to the bubble) and always refuse either unless there it is an overwhelming reason to agree to it. They seem to me to be the antithesis of tournament poker where the concept is to beat the others to a pulp and then all of a sudden at the FT people get all wimpy and want to lock up something at the expense of a possible bigger win. I see people taking the safe option all the time instead of backing themselves to take it down - don"t understand it. Fair enough if you"re very deep for megabucks against some really tough players but, in your local casino, you are probably one of the better players, so why not back yourself? In the instance you give - a 10-handed deal - you"re having a laugh. I wouldn"t have given them the option you did but if they wouldn"t accept your proposal, I hope you made them play on.
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No deal. Too many of these players fold there way onto the ft to get deals like this. They are very exploitable in what is now basically an online stt. Use your edge and take it down!
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BIRD IN THE HAND IS WORTH 2 IN THE BUSH
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in a 10 seat ultra-shallow crap-shoot, I don"t understand why people wouldn"t want to guarantee 4th place money!! You may believe you are better than the rest of the table, but any edge is negligible when the average stack is so shallow.
Deal!!
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MEDAL IN THE HAND IS WORTH 2 IN THE POST
fyp
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MEDAL IN THE HAND IS WORTH 2 IN THE POST
fyp
lmao hahahahhaharrrr
like steve said easy deal unless the money means nothing to ya
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I hate deals "at the bubble" and will never agree to one... picking up "scared money" on the bubble is such big part of tournament play.
However, once the bubble is burst I always keep an open mind.
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in a 10 seat ultra-shallow crap-shoot, I don"t understand why people wouldn"t want to guarantee 4th place money!! You may believe you are better than the rest of the table, but any edge is negligible when the average stack is so shallow.
Deal!!
this was my thinking and I took the deal but stil prefered my plan
had we been deeper, say average stack of 20bb I"d have said no deal as I felt I had a chance I could play to win hence my shootout counter offer
but an average stack was 8bb or less and the chip leader was only 15bb, I reckon a guarantee off 4th place money was about the right price
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the thing is as Steve said these final tables are so crap-shoot like, the only edge you have is your push fold strategy. I think the idea of giving something to the bubble is to hurry the action so you have a little room to manouvre on the final table. I have known bubbles take 2-3 levels before.
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Wouldnt be a bad deal in this situation. Cant belive people are saying use your edge. All your experiance at playing after the flop has gone, and shoving pre when it gets folded to you is now all that is left. Basically you edge has been taken over by variance and running good (hopefully).