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Title: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: TightEnd on July 12, 2010, 11:17:33 AM: https://site.poker.betfair.com/upgrade/faq.html

I am sure questions will arise. Ask on here and we will pass them on
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 12, 2010, 11:27:46 AM: $500,000 BETFAIR POKER 2 LAUNCH PARTY (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=6412.0)
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: AMRN on July 12, 2010, 11:57:36 AM: I currently clear a reasonable monthly amount of Betfair RakeBack each month through RakeTheRake.com, but I note that on a PokerListings review of the OnGame network, it states a downside of the network as NO Rakeback.

Does this mean I will lose the current RakeBack deal I have?
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 12, 2010, 12:12:20 PM: Quote from: AMRN on July 12, 2010, 11:57:36 AM

I currently clear a reasonable monthly amount of Betfair RakeBack each month through RakeTheRake.com, but I note that on a PokerListings review of the OnGame network, it states a downside of the network as NO Rakeback.

Does this mean I will lose the current RakeBack deal I have?

How does the loyalty scheme work?

RB customers:
Existing customers on a Rakeback scheme continue on that scheme unless they choose to be a part of the Betfair Players" Club. The Players" Club allows players to exchange Player Points for cash. Player Points are automatically generated as you play Poker for real money (for more information on Player Points, click here). In the future we will be stocking the Betfair Players" Club with an entire range of items for players to choose from.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 12, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: technolog on July 12, 2010, 12:59:07 PM: Name some Ongame sites please. I can"t quite picture what the software looks like.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Paulie_D on July 12, 2010, 13:00:48 PM: Quote from: technolog on July 12, 2010, 12:59:07 PM

Name some Ongame sites please. I can"t quite picture what the software looks like.

(https://site.poker.betfair.com/images/style/upgrade_main_bg.jpg)

Looks sort of "Tilt" like to me.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: duke3016 on July 12, 2010, 13:03:49 PM: Quote from: Paulie_D on July 12, 2010, 13:00:48 PM

Looks sort of "On Tilt" like to me.

My kind of site
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Paulie_D on July 12, 2010, 13:09:13 PM: Can"t seem to embed it but the link is here to a Youtube demo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6LCCim93kY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6LCCim93kY)

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6LCCim93kY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6LCCim93kY[/youtube]
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: lukybugur on July 12, 2010, 13:16:44 PM: I thought Ladbrokes were on the OnGame Network but I see that MicroGaming sites just look very similar.

These are OnGame softwares;

BWIN
TowerGaming
RedKings
SmartLivePoker
Betsson
PrimePoker
Hollywood Poker
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 12, 2010, 13:23:54 PM: Add to that list

Best Poker
Bet24
Betsafe
Coral
Eurobet
Gala
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Quasar on July 12, 2010, 13:32:03 PM: ok, so is this move going to be a good thing or not? What does everyone think?

I"ve no idea personally, don"t have an opinion - yet ;D
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on July 12, 2010, 13:39:33 PM: Gotta be a good thing as the current software is soooooobad!
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Paulie_D on July 12, 2010, 14:06:08 PM: Quote from: Quasar on July 12, 2010, 13:32:03 PM

ok, so is this move going to be a good thing or not? What does everyone think?

If they can add more games PLO8, Stud8 etc. then I"m all for it.

Anything would be an improvement over the current mess TBH
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: AMRN on July 12, 2010, 14:48:42 PM: Quote from: Mikeyboy9361 on July 12, 2010, 13:39:33 PM

Gotta be a good thing as the current software is soooooobad!

I"m gutted!! Combining the general Betfair userbase with players who currently play on other poker sites is a bad thing. The standard of play at Betfair is generally so very fishy and poor - adding other sites across the OnGame network can only serve to increase the standard of opposition at each table :(

That said though, more volume will be a bonus.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Paulie_D on July 12, 2010, 14:59:35 PM: Quote from: AMRN on July 12, 2010, 14:48:42 PM

adding other sites across the OnGame network can only serve to increase the standard of opposition at each table :(

Looking down the list of sites already on...ahem...Ongaming, I"m not sure the standard will improve.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: ck1888 on July 12, 2010, 16:21:33 PM: Not too worry steve i play on Betwin and its about the same mate with regards to the standard of play. There is a mass of eastern europeans and other softer nations to pick on just as much as the betfair ><))))))*>
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: showdown on July 12, 2010, 17:37:19 PM: I for one welcome the change, be good to see folded cards after every hand, not just by random chance. Personally happy for the extra tournaments and player volume and I"m certain as a few have said that the competition will still be soft. Roll on August...
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: technolog on July 12, 2010, 17:53:57 PM: Quote from: duke3016 on July 12, 2010, 13:03:49 PM

Quote from: Paulie_D on July 12, 2010, 13:00:48 PM

Looks sort of "On Tilt" like to me.

My kind of site

Quote from: lukybugur on July 12, 2010, 13:16:44 PM

I thought Ladbrokes were on the OnGame Network but I see that MicroGaming sites just look very similar.

These are OnGame softwares;

BWIN
TowerGaming
RedKings
SmartLivePoker
Betsson
PrimePoker
Hollywood Poker

...and this sounds like mine!
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Logie66 on July 12, 2010, 21:29:35 PM: I notice from the demo that Paulie posted that the software is multi OS support, Betfair on a Mac has to be a positive move I would say
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: teaulc on July 12, 2010, 21:36:34 PM: backwards step imo,the Ongame platform is slow,unreliable and one of the worst out there,sad day
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Swinebag on July 12, 2010, 21:47:52 PM: whilst ongame isn"t the greatest, at least the structures of the mtt"s are smooth and also have the structure available to look at before deciding whether to play or not

Unlike Betfair at present where clicking on "structure" merely informs players of the starting stack ??? ???

hope it works out for them
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: fraac on July 12, 2010, 22:23:48 PM: Quote from: AMRN on July 12, 2010, 14:48:42 PM

Quote from: Mikeyboy9361 on July 12, 2010, 13:39:33 PM

Gotta be a good thing as the current software is soooooobad!

I"m gutted!! Combining the general Betfair userbase with players who currently play on other poker sites is a bad thing. The standard of play at Betfair is generally so very fishy and poor - adding other sites across the OnGame network can only serve to increase the standard of opposition at each table :(

That said though, more volume will be a bonus.

I grouped Betfair with PKR as sites whose fishpools didn"t quite outweigh the additional discipline I"d need to put up with the downsides.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Foggy on July 12, 2010, 22:47:08 PM: Got to be good

I applaud Betfairs contribution to the APAT coffers, but their software....................stinks
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: suzanne on July 12, 2010, 22:55:10 PM: Just when I was getting used to the current software...sigh.

I have a gala account and not daft on Ongame tbh but I suppose I will grow to love it ::)
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: janc on July 12, 2010, 22:56:40 PM: Quick Overview (Care of Pokerlistings)
bwin Poker is one of Europe's oldest and most popular bookmakers, and through the acquisition of the Ongame network in 2005 they also became Europe's largest poker network. The game volume at bwin Poker and across the Ongame network is very good, providing good action on any level at most hours of the day. bwin Poker offers relatively juicy games, good game variety, great promotions and very good software, making it a first-rate poker room most players.

A recent upgrade in July 2009 has added even more features, including direct seating from the lobby, resizable tables and a downloadable Mac client, putting bwin up near the top of the industry as far as client software and design goes. The software is fast and stable and offers a very nice playing experience, although it may be a bit resource intensive for multi-tabling on slow computers. Real-money player statistics as of July 2010 show 5500 ring-game players and 15000 tournament players
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: BOINGBLITZ on July 12, 2010, 23:16:59 PM: IMO.....it cant be any worse than Betfair"s current software. But lets wait and see.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: rivertaff on July 12, 2010, 23:25:35 PM: The ongame software has many of the bits that members complained about that were missing in the Betfair software. It also has a far bigger player base so more action at all levels.

But I have always found ongame to be slow and problematic ( I used to play a lot on Poker Room which became a part of BWIN).

Recently played on Betsafe and it still seems slow compared to Betfair and ipoker.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Quasar on July 13, 2010, 13:22:32 PM: I really like the Betfair graphics - plain and boring to some but I find all the fancy graphics distracting. Guess we"ll just have to get used to it :-\
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: AMRN on July 13, 2010, 14:03:52 PM: Quote from: Quasar on July 13, 2010, 13:22:32 PM

I really like the Betfair graphics - plain and boring to some but I find all the fancy graphics distracting. Guess we"ll just have to get used to it :-\

I"m with you on that - it"s particularly useful when having the window set to it"s smallest scale for multi-tabling.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: bigalhx3 on July 13, 2010, 18:51:05 PM: oh good a new name for me on betfair ::)
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Shogun112 on July 14, 2010, 00:03:21 AM: Quote from: suzanne on July 12, 2010, 22:55:10 PM

Just when I was getting used to the current software...sigh.

I have a gala account and not daft on Ongame tbh but I suppose I will grow to love it ::)

Didn"t know you were a bingo girl Suz... hehe...
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: AMRN on July 14, 2010, 08:52:35 AM: just read that the MTTs on OnGame do not have antes and have no syncro breaks.

An MTT without antes these days is just wrong - big step backward.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: furnesspoker on July 14, 2010, 14:43:09 PM: There are upsides and downsides to every poker room, having spent a lot of the past couple of years playing on the "Smaller" sites I find it great for getting to know your opponents, however I have to admit I miss the bigger games and I think we are going to get more choice with the move, as regards it being harder as the opponents are better than Betfair, I am sure there will be plenty of equally bad players on there. My only concerns and I have to look into this, is that I use Holdem and Omaha Manager Pro and I am just dreading A.) It not working B.) Getting used to it on the new site.
I have to say though they are splashing plenty of cash out for the move and in my honest opinion I think the more variety or games, more players can only be seen as a positive.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Paulie_D on July 14, 2010, 14:59:57 PM: Quote from: furnesspoker on July 14, 2010, 14:43:09 PM

My only concerns and I have to look into this, is that I use Holdem and Omaha Manager Pro and I am just dreading A.) It not working.

The "Supported Site" list at HoldemManager.com (http://www.holdemmanager.com/buy/1/Hold"Em+Manager) would seem to indicate that OnGame are OK.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Swinebag on July 14, 2010, 18:42:01 PM: Quote from: AMRN on July 14, 2010, 08:52:35 AM

just read that the MTTs on OnGame do not have antes and have no syncro breaks.

Pretty sure they do have antes (well the CBMPT sattys on gala do anyway)

maybe the author had never reached the first hour of a tourney??

He was right about the synchro breaks (but that was the same with the old betfair software)
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: AMRN on July 14, 2010, 20:18:10 PM: Quote from: Swinebag22 on July 14, 2010, 18:42:01 PM

He was right about the synchro breaks (but that was the same with the old betfair software)

The HOT tourneys are syncro"d
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: sm2000p on July 23, 2010, 09:17:42 AM: This move has got to be a positive one in my opinion. The current Betfair software is the worst one i have ever used and I for one will have no problems moving over to the new software and may even use it more often other than just for APAT games.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: LongshanksED on July 23, 2010, 14:19:45 PM: I have a gala account and can say the MTTs i played had antes. That said inyabrnt played on there for 6 months as when they upgraded to the new program I didn"t like it. Also the software had lots of problems and many tourneys got cancelled when the software kept freezing

The sit n go"s also had antes which i thought was strange
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: AMRN on July 23, 2010, 14:44:37 PM: Quote from: LongshanksED on July 23, 2010, 14:19:45 PM

The sit n go"s also had antes which i thought was strange

SNGs on Stars have antes - much better with than without.

Just trying to come to terms with SNGs on iPoker - not a patch on Stars.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Foggy on July 23, 2010, 16:12:20 PM: But the games are much softer, therefore a plus IMO
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Sugarnes on July 23, 2010, 16:32:19 PM: Should be interesting - I am unsure personally - that"s in part remaining unconvinced by the description of some of the upgrades but also down to the fact I"ve not played on the Ongame network so don"t know what to expect.

Personally keen to see an upgraded lobby system (both main and for tourneys) - both graphics and interface - but table stuff is fine as is, could do more harm than good if table aesthetics are the main aim of the upgrade.

Few minor thoughts that I"ve not heard mentioned/speculated on:
- Tournament ticket system (i.e. capacity to qualify and unregister - t$ sys on stars ends up creating an industry in itself but the lack of capacity to un reg and hold a ticket for one of the bigger tourneys is annoying)
- Linked to that the Sat system needs work in my view - in of itself it seems quite random but linked to the fact that you can"t select when to play stages/main it is quite poor.
- V.minor but an improvement to the account aspect would be welcomed (double log in and then currency diff...guess the latter depends on how you see the markets!)

Interesting times.....
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: Sugarnes on July 23, 2010, 20:44:22 PM: Just checked out the demos...

- tourney tickets wo-ho!
- lobbies looking rather good wo-ho!
- silly avatars.....hey you cant hold back the tide I guess

David
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: AMRN on July 23, 2010, 20:47:26 PM: Quote from: Sugarnes on July 23, 2010, 20:44:22 PM

Just checked out the demos...

- tourney tickets wo-ho!
- lobbies looking rather good wo-ho!
- silly avatars.....hey you cant hold back the tide I guess

David

and a mix of 5k and 10k chips in a MTT? lol
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: ian.ski309 on July 23, 2010, 21:03:27 PM: When I first used the Betfair software it was slightly lumpy and wouldn"t function properly. I rang the helpline and they said it was because my PC wasn"t brand new and super-fast. Once I clicked the "Older Computer" option it worked fine (well, better)... will the new software require any more computer "muscle" ?
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: duke3016 on July 26, 2010, 18:48:02 PM: Quote from: ian.ski309 on July 23, 2010, 21:03:27 PM

When I first used the Betfair software it was slightly lumpy and wouldn"t function properly. I rang the helpline and they said it was because my PC wasn"t brand new and super-fast. Once I clicked the "Older Computer" option it worked fine (well, better)... will the new software require any more computer "muscle" ?

PC

Recommended hardware:

* Processor: 2 GHz Pentium processor
* Memory: 1 Gbyte
* Graphics card: 4 Mbyte
* Hard drive: 20 Gbyte
* A sound card.
Title: Re: FYI Betfair Poker moves to the Ongame network
Post by: ian.ski309 on July 26, 2010, 19:00:03 PM: Thanks Ger, I think I might be struggling for Memory -for the computer, as well as my own ! ;)
Title: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 27, 2010, 11:17:37 AM: (http://lh3.ggpht.com/_X5lM7YiBEWc/TE6yD2UhgkI/AAAAAAAACDU/F2n70xV6JTo/Betfair2.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on July 27, 2010, 11:19:46 AM: Lol, a winning formula!
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: Paulie_D on July 27, 2010, 11:25:30 AM: Yeah...I was checking the tanks this morning and they were all missing...then the server went down!

Looks like it"s back up as I"m receiving updates.

[EDIT] Nope..it"s down again. I"m sure it will be back....s**n! ;D
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: furnesspoker on July 27, 2010, 11:45:58 AM: LOLZ that has made my day :)
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: gerry5421 on July 27, 2010, 12:20:44 PM: Betfair Customer Services Joined: 22 May 02
Replies: 705 26 Jul 10 18:06
As part of our upgrade to Betfair Poker 2, Betfair Poker will be unavailable on Tuesday 27th July between 06.00 and 11.00 GMT.

After this, all players will be able to automatically upgrade and play on Betfair Poker 2.

For more details on the new features being introduced as part of Betfair Poker 2, as well as details of our $500k Launch Party promotions, please see https://poker.betfair.com/upgrade (please note that the poker website will also be unavailable during the upgrade). If you have any issues upgrading to Betfair Poker 2, please contact out Helpdesk.

You can track the status of our launch of Betfair Poker 2 at http://service.betfair.info/.

See you at the tables,

The Betfair Poker Team

Betfair Customer Services Joined: 22 May 02
Replies: 705 27 Jul 10 10:48
We are slightly delayed in our launch this morning but our new betfair Poker 2 is coming very soon.

Betfair Customer Services Joined: 22 May 02
Replies: 705 27 Jul 10 12:19
We are so pleased so many of you want to try our new product. Usually we see the load increase much later in the day. We had a gradual scale up plan for launch in line with our normal load during a normal poker playing day. With so many of you keen to see our new product we are experiencing a much higher load than anticipated this early in the day. We are looking to increase our load capacity therefore as soon as possible.

We appreciate your patience.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: AMRN on July 27, 2010, 12:24:44 PM: tried http://service.betfair.info/ but it appears to be a dead site

Do we have to download new client software, or does that happen automatically? I tried opening BF client, but it just hangs.
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: gerry5421 on July 27, 2010, 12:25:56 PM: managed to get it going once , but down again , one thing i noticed was a screen asking me to change my alias as it wasnt available anymore ,never managed to complete the change though as it crashed ,i take it if this happens we will need to notify of new name for APAT purposes.
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: gerry5421 on July 27, 2010, 12:27:53 PM: Quote from: AMRN on July 27, 2010, 12:24:44 PM

tried http://service.betfair.info/ but it appears to be a dead site

Do we have to download new client software, or does that happen automatically? I tried opening BF client, but it just hangs.

should update itself ,i had deleted and downloaded again ,after many attempts ,but its still having problems with HTTP1 errors ,poker page on betfair is intermitent as well
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: gerry5421 on July 27, 2010, 12:35:32 PM: update from BF

Please note that the same load issue on the upgrade (see our Betfair Customer Services "upgrade" thread) is also affecting access to our website when players try to upgrade their account. Our steps to resolve the load issue will also solve this. To reiterate, we expect this to vastly improve in the coming couple of hours. We will continue to post updates as we get them. In addition, refreshing the upgrade page repeatedly will not help you as much as retrying every couple of minutes.
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: gerry5421 on July 27, 2010, 12:39:29 PM: I guess we just have to be paient, lol we should be good at that !!! ;) ;)
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: Jon MW on July 27, 2010, 12:40:53 PM: Quote from: AMRN on July 27, 2010, 12:24:44 PM

tried http://service.betfair.info/ but it appears to be a dead site

Do we have to download new client software, or does that happen automatically? I tried opening BF client, but it just hangs.

Given that they"re changing it over today

I"m not going to go on to the site at least until tomorrow - I think it"ll save a lot of hassle that way
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: snicholson-dn@hotmail.co. on July 27, 2010, 12:50:12 PM: When I click on my usual shortcut to open Betfair poker is gets upto installing 2of3 updates then decides "hmmm I cant be bothered, im gonna make you wait another 5 minutes to p**s you off!!"and then gives me some error message.
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: AMRN on July 27, 2010, 12:50:40 PM: well I"ve got so far - the old software has been removed and the new software installed. Now when I type in my account details and password, it gives me a message saying a new window has opened into which I must input some account info..... but the window is blank....
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: gerry5421 on July 27, 2010, 13:11:42 PM: Quote from: AMRN on July 27, 2010, 12:50:40 PM

well I"ve got so far - the old software has been removed and the new software installed. Now when I type in my account details and password, it gives me a message saying a new window has opened into which I must input some account info..... but the window is blank....

yep thats me too ,new window cant connect to account settings ,
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: MintTrav on July 27, 2010, 13:35:24 PM: Quote from: gerry5421 on July 27, 2010, 12:20:44 PM

We had a gradual scale up plan for launch in line with our normal load during a normal poker playing day. With so many of you keen to see our new product we are experiencing a much higher load than anticipated

Yeah, no-one could have foreseen that.

Quote from: Jon MW on July 27, 2010, 12:40:53 PM

I"m not going to go on to the site at least until tomorrow - I think it"ll save a lot of hassle that way

+1
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: rivertaff on July 27, 2010, 14:42:25 PM: I"m in and running, and it don"t look too bad, but haven"t played yet.
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: AMRN on July 27, 2010, 14:46:11 PM: likewise now
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: PHIL_TC on July 27, 2010, 14:53:21 PM: Yip.. me 3 :)

No sign of all the APAT tournaments yet though.. (oh actually 3 have appeared now) hopefully the others will be on their way
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: AMRN on July 27, 2010, 14:57:44 PM: The 8pm 3k and 8.15pm 10k (HOTs) don"t exist now :( I see the 5k turbo chaser made it across.
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: Paulie_D on July 27, 2010, 14:57:50 PM: Nope...when the "web page" is supposed to open all I get are scripting errors...huh?
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: PHIL_TC on July 27, 2010, 15:03:47 PM: Quote from: Paulie_D on July 27, 2010, 14:57:50 PM

Nope...when the "web page" is supposed to open all I get are scripting errors...huh?

Hi Paulie - Got a ton of those as well (I just blamed Vista.. horrible) took a few goes but got there at the 3rd attempt
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: jacklevel06 on July 27, 2010, 15:16:14 PM: Quote from: Paulie_D on July 27, 2010, 14:57:50 PM

Nope...when the "web page" is supposed to open all I get are scripting errors...huh?
Me too
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: PHIL_TC on July 27, 2010, 15:39:17 PM: Quote from: PHIL_TC on July 27, 2010, 14:53:21 PM

Yip.. me 3 :)

No sign of all the APAT tournaments yet though.. (oh actually 3 have appeared now) hopefully the others will be on their way

Software takes a little getting used to but seems ok to me

No sign of the other APAT tournaments still though.. and the ones that are showing are empty :-\
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: Paulie_D on July 27, 2010, 15:53:26 PM: Quote from: PHIL_TC on July 27, 2010, 15:03:47 PM

Quote from: Paulie_D on July 27, 2010, 14:57:50 PM

Nope...when the "web page" is supposed to open all I get are scripting errors...huh?

Hi Paulie - Got a ton of those as well (I just blamed Vista.. horrible) took a few goes but got there at the 3rd attempt

I"ve tried it on Vista (Home Laptop) and XP (Work)...guess I"ll have to keep at it.
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: Bodddders on July 27, 2010, 15:56:12 PM: No go for me either.

Just keep getting error messages.
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: Shogun112 on July 27, 2010, 15:57:09 PM: I was mocked when I suggested it might not be a clean upgrade..!!!
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: AMRN on July 27, 2010, 15:57:36 PM: dunno what you"re all on about - is working perfectly, and am already a few quid up
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: SirPercival on July 27, 2010, 15:59:05 PM: Moved over with no problems.
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: Paulie_D on July 27, 2010, 16:01:38 PM: Quote from: Paulie_D on July 27, 2010, 15:53:26 PM

I"ve tried it on Vista (Home Laptop) and XP (Work)...guess I"ll have to keep at it.

XP...got it on the 4th attempt...now to hack into my laptop at home remotely and do Vista. ;D

[EDIT]...it seems once you"ve "upgraded" your account, you"re good to go from any machine.

Hmmm...I wonder if you can now access it from the US?
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: Bodddders on July 27, 2010, 16:16:52 PM: take it all back, working fine now.
Title: Re: Is Des working for Betfair now ?
Post by: SirPercival on July 27, 2010, 16:25:59 PM: Quote from: Paulie_D on July 27, 2010, 16:01:38 PM

Quote from: Paulie_D on July 27, 2010, 15:53:26 PM

I"ve tried it on Vista (Home Laptop) and XP (Work)...guess I"ll have to keep at it.

XP...got it on the 4th attempt...now to hack into my laptop at home remotely and do Vista. ;D

[EDIT]...it seems once you"ve "upgraded" your account, you"re good to go from any machine.

Hmmm...I wonder if you can now access it from the US?

I"m on Vista and upgraded with no issues. (had to change alias though)
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: duke3016 on July 27, 2010, 17:27:22 PM: perfect easy install (Windows 7) - had to change my alias though
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: allinbob2 on July 27, 2010, 18:06:30 PM: Anyone know what the issue with downloading on a Mac, wouldn"t even bring up the download window.
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: tumblet on July 27, 2010, 18:37:04 PM: downloaded software, now just getting a message " connected to www.pokernetwork.co.uk" and looks like it is trying to load something..

Any friendly game people playing tonight ? the ones who are on obv ::)
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on July 27, 2010, 18:37:42 PM: Okay done it piece of p**s!! :D Played a bit of cash, doesn"t show folded cards, readily available hand history though. Seems okay.
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: Paulie_D on July 27, 2010, 18:52:36 PM: Quote from: Mikeyboy9361 on July 27, 2010, 18:37:42 PM

doesn"t show folded cards

Not where you"d expect...(e.g. Betfair 1/ Tilt/PS) but they are in the sidebar. PITA to keep scrolling though.
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: tumblet on July 27, 2010, 19:09:04 PM: Quote from: chillijam on July 27, 2010, 18:37:04 PM

Any friendly game people playing tonight ? the ones who are on obv ::)
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 27, 2010, 19:23:25 PM: Quote from: chillijam on July 27, 2010, 19:09:04 PM

Quote from: chillijam on July 27, 2010, 18:37:04 PM

Any friendly game people playing tonight ? the ones who are on obv ::)

http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=6518 (http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=6518)
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: tumblet on July 27, 2010, 19:26:03 PM: i think I have fallen in love with the software... reminds me a little of the old pre ipoker software (cant remember name now!!)

;D
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: MAIR on July 27, 2010, 19:39:44 PM: Moved over no problems here
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: bigalhx3 on July 27, 2010, 20:02:38 PM: Quote from: chillijam on July 27, 2010, 19:26:03 PM

i think I have fallen in love with the software... reminds me a little of the old pre ipoker software (cant remember name now!!)

;D

its a nothing like tribeca, shame :"(
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: tumblet on July 27, 2010, 20:34:45 PM: Quote from: bigalhx3 on July 27, 2010, 20:02:38 PM

Quote from: chillijam on July 27, 2010, 19:26:03 PM

i think I have fallen in love with the software... reminds me a little of the old pre ipoker software (cant remember name now!!)

;D

its a nothing like tribeca, shame :"(

maybe just an illusion and i want it back
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: pables on July 27, 2010, 20:53:41 PM: Dont appear to have chat facility after being knocked out of tourney (which I find happens regularly, lately) :(

Could be a bummer for part 2 of the league?

Ian

Other than that appears to be ok. Noticed only David LLewellyn in the stud at DTD ???
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: Chelsea on July 27, 2010, 23:55:06 PM: no problems getting across with windows 7. Not to impressed so far. I Was hoping for much more of an improvement to the whole feel of things. :-\
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: AMRN on July 28, 2010, 09:57:05 AM: Quote from: pables on July 27, 2010, 20:53:41 PM

Dont appear to have chat facility after being knocked out of tourney (which I find happens regularly, lately) :(

Could be a bummer for part 2 of the league?

Ian

Other than that appears to be ok. Noticed only David LLewellyn in the stud at DTD ???

It is rubbish that you can"t chat on the table rail..... but there is a chat area in the tournament lobby...... and that could make for interesting interaction during the league tourney!
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: Mikeyboy9361 on July 28, 2010, 11:59:47 AM: Yeah but the chat in the Tourney lobby has loads of people talking across each other, and will be nigh on impossible to keep track of, the chat facility, and the find a player facility on the previous BF, was the only good thing on there!!
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: daveyb147 on July 28, 2010, 14:40:05 PM: Changed over after several attempts,,played 3 sng,s,,havent managed to stay connected for more than 3 minutes so far,lol,,,not lookin good for me,,,hopefully it will improve over the next few days !!!
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: AMRN on July 28, 2010, 14:52:56 PM: Quote from: Mikeyboy9361 on July 28, 2010, 11:59:47 AM

Yeah but the chat in the Tourney lobby has loads of people talking across each other, and will be nigh on impossible to keep track of, the chat facility, and the find a player facility on the previous BF, was the only good thing on there!!

I don"t mean the main lobby - the tourney lobby is more specific.
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: AMRN on July 28, 2010, 14:55:45 PM: When will the WCOAP holding tanks appear in the new client please? For some reason, Stud is available, but no others are.... and the Stud has only 1 runner registered.

I"m sure it"s under control, but with recent challenges that Betfair have struggled with.....
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: cashman on July 28, 2010, 15:00:44 PM: the irish holding tanks are there but it says that only one person has reg"ed for the main event and i know that more than 30 have reg"ed for it.
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: Paulie_D on July 28, 2010, 15:07:41 PM: Quote from: cashman0 on July 28, 2010, 15:00:44 PM

the irish holding tanks are there but it says that only one person has reg"ed for the main event and i know that more than 30 have reg"ed for it.

True...but they are locked (when I checked 90 minutes ago)..also the WCOAP "tanks" are mostly missing.

I"m giving Betfair a few days to sort this out (and to give Leigh an opportunity to get back from Goodwood...where he"s glad handing the Betfair people IIRC) and look at these issues.

It"s certainly unfortunate that people can"t (currently) buy into the Irish event as there were quite a few seats available before the switchover.
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 28, 2010, 19:45:56 PM: We"re on the case with the holding tanks.

I"d rather the job was done properly first time, than have to deal with issues afterwards, and it is a manual process in this particular case.
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: PHIL_TC on July 28, 2010, 22:02:21 PM: Quote from: Paulie_D on July 28, 2010, 15:07:41 PM

It"s certainly unfortunate that people can"t (currently) buy into the Irish event as there were quite a few seats available before the switchover.

I need to register for this, was waiting for payday to come around which it has.. is there anyway of doing this or do I need to wait until the switch over is complete? I"ve booked flights and hotel.. wouldnt want to miss out :-\
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: Paulie_D on July 28, 2010, 22:15:29 PM: Quote from: PHIL_TC on July 28, 2010, 22:02:21 PM

I need to register for this, was waiting for payday to come around which it has.. is there anyway of doing this or do I need to wait until the switch over is complete? I"ve booked flights and hotel.. wouldnt want to miss out :-\

Phil, at the moment this the only way...keep checking BF...it wasn"t even close to full last time I checked before the switch (I think 30+ of 100 available).

Should be back to normal within (I"d guess) 7 days.
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: Chipaccrual on July 28, 2010, 23:07:23 PM: Quote from: PHIL_TC on July 28, 2010, 22:02:21 PM

Quote from: Paulie_D on July 28, 2010, 15:07:41 PM

It"s certainly unfortunate that people can"t (currently) buy into the Irish event as there were quite a few seats available before the switchover.

I need to register for this, was waiting for payday to come around which it has.. is there anyway of doing this or do I need to wait until the switch over is complete? I"ve booked flights and hotel.. wouldnt want to miss out :-\

You won"t miss out Phil. ;D
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: RiverAsUsual on July 29, 2010, 18:16:42 PM: Quote from: AMRN on July 28, 2010, 09:57:05 AM

Quote from: pables on July 27, 2010, 20:53:41 PM

Dont appear to have chat facility after being knocked out of tourney (which I find happens regularly, lately) :(

Could be a bummer for part 2 of the league?

Ian

Other than that appears to be ok. Noticed only David LLewellyn in the stud at DTD ???

It is rubbish that you can"t chat on the table rail..... but there is a chat area in the tournament lobby...... and that could make for interesting interaction during the league tourney!

Well Steve you"ll just have to collude on WLM ~~like we all~~ .... erm... ahem.. like the rest of them do!!
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: RiverAsUsual on July 29, 2010, 18:20:41 PM: And just when Squirrel finds out my ultra-secret Betfair identity (which is on my signature below every message!), I"m unwillingly ;) forced to change it. Oh this will be fun! :D
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: suzanne on July 29, 2010, 22:44:54 PM: This doesnt look good. I have tried loads of times now and it still isnt happening. I get a screen saying you have to update your account, I then get a screen asking to agree to terms and conditions, I tick, click and nothing happens. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling, switched off firewall/antivirus (i think) and I dont know what to do now :-(

Can you only have 1 ongame account?
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: LongshanksED on July 30, 2010, 11:41:56 AM: I have 2 infant accounts

Betfair poker 2
Gala

And both seem to run ok
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: suzanne on July 30, 2010, 15:55:58 PM: I too have a Gala account which is why its so confusing that it wont download.

I will try emailing support.
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: Cyntaf on July 30, 2010, 16:43:44 PM: Quote from: LongshanksED on July 30, 2010, 11:41:56 AM

I have 2 infant accounts

Betfair poker 2
Gala

And both seem to run ok

Mine both run equally well also, at least they do for now :)
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: Foggy on July 30, 2010, 17:04:23 PM: Quote from: Cyntaf on July 30, 2010, 16:43:44 PM

Quote from: LongshanksED on July 30, 2010, 11:41:56 AM

I have 2 infant accounts

Betfair poker 2
Gala

And both seem to run ok

Mine both run equally well also, at least they do for now :)

I get the feeling Paul, that you are after the Boshi crown as the phantom form poster?
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: thinsy147 on August 06, 2010, 12:07:39 PM: I tried the new "Betfair2" site last night for the first time in a freeroll game just to see how it worked and I"m not impressed at all.... I played Omaha and actually won $0.28 :o BUT... I spent most of the time with screens freezing and being folded because I haven"t "acted" in time...... I haven"t got the greatest laptop in the world and living in the "sticks" my broadband speed isn"t that good either but having said that I also play on "PokerStars" and have no trouble at all!!!

I was looking forward to playing in some qualifiying events for Ireland, Coventry, and Luton but with this problem I guess I"ll just have to do it the old fashioned way and enter direct... :"(

Has anyone else had this problem?
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: daveyb147 on August 06, 2010, 16:55:50 PM: Quote from: thinsy147 on August 06, 2010, 12:07:39 PM

I tried the new "Betfair2" site last night for the first time in a freeroll game just to see how it worked and I"m not impressed at all.... I played Omaha and actually won $0.28 :o BUT... I spent most of the time with screens freezing and being folded because I haven"t "acted" in time...... I haven"t got the greatest laptop in the world and living in the "sticks" my broadband speed isn"t that good either but having said that I also play on "PokerStars" and have no trouble at all!!!

I was looking forward to playing in some qualifiying events for Ireland, Coventry, and Luton but with this problem I guess I"ll just have to do it the old fashioned way and enter direct... :"(

Has anyone else had this problem?

yes exactly the same,,betfair told me to check for critical updates with microsoft,,which ive done,,,they also told me to check that i have the latest adobe flash,which i have,,,still the same problems,,,,looks like a goodnight from me lolol,,,at least the lobby works so i can register for live events !!
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: thinsy147 on August 07, 2010, 00:54:34 AM: Quote from: daveyb147 on August 06, 2010, 16:55:50 PM

Quote from: thinsy147 on August 06, 2010, 12:07:39 PM

I tried the new "Betfair2" site last night for the first time in a freeroll game just to see how it worked and I"m not impressed at all.... I played Omaha and actually won $0.28 :o BUT... I spent most of the time with screens freezing and being folded because I haven"t "acted" in time...... I haven"t got the greatest laptop in the world and living in the "sticks" my broadband speed isn"t that good either but having said that I also play on "PokerStars" and have no trouble at all!!!

I was looking forward to playing in some qualifiying events for Ireland, Coventry, and Luton but with this problem I guess I"ll just have to do it the old fashioned way and enter direct... :"(

Has anyone else had this problem?

yes exactly the same,,betfair told me to check for critical updates with microsoft,,which ive done,,,they also told me to check that i have the latest adobe flash,which i have,,,still the same problems,,,,looks like a goodnight from me lolol,,,at least the lobby works so i can register for live events !!

I"m glad to know it"s not just me but am sorry to hear your having the trouble too.... Lets hope it gets sorted.

Maybe they are picking on us because we have used a "147" reference in our alias"s :o

Is yours a snooker reference too? Have you managed it or is it still a dream? ;)
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: daveyb147 on August 07, 2010, 10:47:36 AM: Sadly no i havent,,,,best is 99,,,four times ive got that lol,,,its weird being gutted with a 99 break lol,,,,,Yeah hope we can sort it out soon,,,will miss not playin apat online,,,,goodluck in ya connection lol
Title: Re: Betfair Poker and the move to the Ongame network
Post by: thinsy147 on August 07, 2010, 11:11:18 AM: Quote from: daveyb147 on August 07, 2010, 10:47:36 AM

Sadly no i havent,,,,best is 99,,,four times ive got that lol,,,its weird being gutted with a 99 break lol,,,,,Yeah hope we can sort it out soon,,,will miss not playin apat online,,,,goodluck in ya connection lol

I was playing for 8 years before I hit my first ton but once I did I had 3 in 10 days!!!! Figure that!! :o

My highest is 136. (Had 134 also and missed the black off the spot) :(