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Title: poker trackers
Post by: cincicrappykid on August 02, 2010, 19:24:59 PM
i was thinking of investing in some tracking software for tournament play only anyone any suggestions
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: Cyntaf on August 02, 2010, 20:25:08 PM
I didn"t think you"d need any help with tourneys ;)
I tried Hold'em manager, which worked fine on the old Betfair, i never purchased it though. They did seem pretty sharp on updates though. I also think you can purchase a basic software for the likes of tourneys only, or that could be Poker tracker3?
Sorry Tony, not looked for a while, but they seem to be the two top dogs, without going to specific sites where you can also get some analysis from pro"s(Think these maybe more than you wish to invest by the sound of your post).Sorry if that"s not the case.
Anyways goto the sites for two in blue above and you can download them free for a trial period. See which one you like.
Do not install them at the same time though, as i think the Postgre(database) may get it"s knickers in a twist.
That i"m afraid s the best i can come up with as i don"t use any software.
GL, i am sure others have opinions, paticular with PT3, i think AMRN uses this one?
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: SirPercival on August 02, 2010, 20:42:46 PM
I would recommend PT3 for cash but not tournaments. I have heard Hold'em Manager is as good, if not better.

Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: Cyntaf on August 02, 2010, 20:50:05 PM
I was going to mention you too Stuart,as you have posted quite a bit on the subject in the past, but the list would go on........................................

Steve also sees more of Tony I guess, maybe at the Bpcfcdctc???

Anyway Stuart do i get a pint for guessing yours is a lager ;D ;D
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: Cyntaf on August 02, 2010, 20:55:36 PM
Oh Yes Tony, i recall reading something somewhere about Hold'em indicator. I think this is quite simple in the way it runs, as in i don"t think it builds a database, but will show you percentages/outs etc, also gives you a Heads up display on players at your table(obviously only for that game) In the form of stats similar to PT3 or H"em Man. Vpip/pf>/AF etc.

Hope this helps, i"m not sure if you can trial this, try the site and GL with whatever you choose.

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: furnesspoker on August 02, 2010, 21:25:18 PM
Holdem Manager IMO

Being lazy I havent tried configuring it yet, but will in the next day or two, I purchased the Holdem Manager and Omaha Manager Pro. Purely as I mainly play omaha cash
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: kinboshi on August 02, 2010, 21:44:13 PM

I would recommend PT3 for cash but not tournaments. I have heard Hold'em Manager is as good, if not better.




I preferred HEM to PT3 when I was playing a lot of cash online.  Not sure how much they"ve changed in the past 12 months though.
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: deanp27 on August 02, 2010, 22:25:04 PM
general opinion is that HEM is better but i have PT3, although the benefit is more for cash games rather than tourneys
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: smileriraq on August 02, 2010, 22:31:02 PM
plenty of offers for free holdem manager/ poker tracker

thats how i got mine signed up for titan poker through one of those offer sites completed the required number of hands and voila
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: Cyntaf on August 03, 2010, 00:36:12 AM

plenty of offers for free holdem manager/ poker tracker

thats how i got mine signed up for titan poker through one of those offer sites completed the required number of hands and voila


Yeah good point, but i don"t think he wants to play cash, i also misread he wanted something cheap for some reason.
I tried both and much prefer HM, some good add ons too. Guess it depends how far you want to go and how much time you want to spend analysing v playing. or + playing? How much time ya got? ;D
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: Marty719 on August 03, 2010, 08:23:51 AM

Holdem Manager IMO

Being lazy I havent tried configuring it yet, but will in the next day or two, I purchased the Holdem Manager and Omaha Manager Pro. Purely as I mainly play omaha cash


I have this as well.  Pays for itself very quickly - excellent buy!
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: smileriraq on August 03, 2010, 10:22:30 AM
you dont have to play cash games to get or use holdem manager
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: zzBlizzardzz on August 03, 2010, 10:25:40 AM
Tony, Let me know which one you choose and how you like it please. Cheers
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: cincicrappykid on August 03, 2010, 14:19:24 PM
thanks for feedback guys looks like holdem manager is the one to go with  8)
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: SirPercival on August 03, 2010, 15:09:35 PM

thanks for feedback guys looks like holdem manager is the one to go with  8)


For PT3 and Holdem Manager, the benefit is much greater for cash games. I think there are other programs out there that may help with Tourneys.
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: Cyntaf on August 03, 2010, 16:12:05 PM

you dont have to play cash games to get or use holdem manager


Oops, no offence intended, i thought you meant you played raked hands to qualify for the free software, and I actually meant good point, i"d forgotten to mention this route. Also wasn"t sure if this suits him. More replies the more data and better for him to decide.

Cheers Paul :)
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: smileriraq on August 03, 2010, 22:44:54 PM
none taken fella
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: zzBlizzardzz on August 04, 2010, 08:54:06 AM
This begs the question, Can Paul actually insult anyone, is he capable of this?
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: Cyntaf on August 04, 2010, 17:20:56 PM

This begs the question, Can Paul actually insult anyone, is he capable of this?


Listen!  MooseF# ? Nah, better not ;D
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: zzBlizzardzz on August 06, 2010, 05:48:46 AM


This begs the question, Can Paul actually insult anyone, is he capable of this?


Listen!  MooseF# ? Nah, better not ;D


The prosecution rests.
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: FOYIE1 on August 08, 2010, 12:49:36 PM
isnt that software kind of cheating. knowing what percentage of hands they fold, bet and call.

doesnt seem right IMO it seems like cheating
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: Marty719 on August 09, 2010, 09:56:51 AM

isnt that software kind of cheating. knowing what percentage of hands they fold, bet and call.

doesnt seem right IMO it seems like cheating


There is no law against it and while the majority of opponents are using it, it would put you in a severe disadvantage to not use.
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: SirPercival on August 09, 2010, 10:07:27 AM

isnt that software kind of cheating. knowing what percentage of hands they fold, bet and call.

doesnt seem right IMO it seems like cheating


It not cheating because all the information you are using is available to all players.
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: FOYIE1 on August 09, 2010, 19:38:02 PM
its only available if you bought the software right so hows it available to everyone??
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: SirPercival on August 09, 2010, 20:12:44 PM

its only available if you bought the software right so hows it available to everyone??


the INFORMATION that the software tracks is available to everyone
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: AJDUK on August 09, 2010, 21:38:49 PM


its only available if you bought the software right so hows it available to everyone??


the INFORMATION that the software tracks is available to everyone


True but the information is used by the s/w to do things beyond most peoples abilities. So in a way it is cheating if you aint able to do what the s/w does for you in the same time frame. If you took a computer to a live table and said I"m collecting information freely available to all and using it to my advantage, they would say that is cheating and chuck you out ;) Initially many online sites tried to ban even HUD"s but nowadays they"ve had to just let it happen as it"s not preventable.

Basically as the information is available to all then you are not doing yourself any favours by not having it if you want to play seriously. Online is a different beast to live and some players can"t get their heads round that for some reason.

I wonder if anyone"s ever tried to work out a % hindrance that not buying the software puts you under.
Title: Re: poker trackers
Post by: WYoung83 on August 10, 2010, 00:25:48 AM
Durrrr, Ivey and Antonius have all stated that they have never used a HUD. They seem to be doing fine witout it. Especially durrrr, and Antonius they basically built  bankrolls from the smaller stakes multitabling.